A bit disappointed by Rise of the Tomb Raider.

I think the people who create something should have the right to decide what they create is.

But your $60 wasn't paying the bills. There is no denying the series wasn't selling well. Something had to change and I cant blame them for going with what worked. That is what you do in business

E3 proved with the Halo 5 and ROTTR demos that showing what you've got so far just for the sake of it is a really bad idea.

I loved the TR reboot and thought the ROTTR demo was shockingly bad. I love Halo and thought Halo 5 looked spectacularly boring. I don't like the idea of having a fucking squad follow me everywhere so I might hate it anyway but both demos were terrible.

Not many developers have the courage to make a game where you need to take a breath and explore anymore. They're worried that you'll lose interest and so they take the safer approach and keep you busy as much as possible.

You have provided zero evidence nor any links. We can't call those facts, can we? They are just claims made only by you. I did provide both links and evidence to the reality, that TR was released for the first time with GWG March 2015. I also scoured for info on your behalf and found nothing with Google. I did ask other 360 owners as well.

It's not a big deal to figure out the truth. In my experience, there are people that get emotional after making dubious claims and it's to cover up other things. I know it's the internet and I can't expect honesty. For instance, if you recalled suddenly how you truly came across TR 2013 in July during our conversation, I don't expect you to tell me due to some sort of internet pride. It's fine though, after my research I already know the score.

You initially said GWG gave you TR and now we know the truth that it did not happen. You acquired the game by some other means, but not by an official GWG release.

Mystery Solved.

Tbh, I feel like I was talking to a wall, but I didn't let you get on my nerves. It's really not an emotional matter. I just wanted to figure out the riddle, but now I know you weren't interested in finding out the answer to the riddle. You probably already figured it out, but at least we know it wasn't a sanctioned official GWG release (well, I knew that yesterday, but you came to terms with that today).

I did ask others and I've been cordial. No one is validating your story from anyone I can talk too regarding GWG July 2013 when it was still $60. You obviously came across the copy somehow. Maybe you played a trial of it, I don't know. BTW: I have over a hundred XBL friends, not to mention other websites. Why am I being tasked with that job anyways.

Also, you are the one who made the odd GWG claim, it is you who is burdened with proof when making odd claims which you have failed to provide. I provided evidence and did way more than my share. I shouldn't have to prove your case for you.

I'm not out to bug you. I just wanted to clear up your initial claim which for some reason makes you antsy and a bit stubborn to let go, although you have provided no evidence to back up your claim. I did provide evidence on my end.

Again, it's not a big deal. We have established wherever you got TR in July 2013, it wasn't from GWG.

All I ever sought out to do was clear up the misinformation you provided on page one:

I got to the bottom of it. I've done that. TR wasn't on GWG so soon back in July 2013, but it was on GWG in March 2015 as I said yesterday with my very first quote to you. Now anyone reading this knows that as well unless you ever come up with some sort of evidence otherwise like I provided earlier. Did you get the game somehow? Sure, maybe. You never provided how, but it's not a big deal. The game was made free earlier this year and you have it now for sure.

Either way, enjoy your copy of TR, have a good a good day.

Its nice when facts and logic can prevail over boisterous claims.

Well dont TY, rep added, mother approved.

I don't judge anything by a 2 minute demo. We even had a thread here saying "this is what the RotTR demo should have been" full of 13 minutes of gameplay. Looks great.

I am all for trying new things. I am up for co op or SP ordering my squad in Halo 5. Gonna be epic, Spielberg-like awesomeness.

@SolidTy: July 2013 GWG were Defense grid and AC2.

Thank you, kind sir. :P

Correct cainetao. I already provided a link establishing the games released on GWG since the beginning on page one when I said:

@SolidTy said on page one:

There are many links of GWG games released that are tracked at a few sites, but here's one that tracks the time GWG TR was released in March 2015 (besides Major Nelson above):

http://www.tekrevue.com/complete-xbox-games-with-gold-list-details/

Tomb Raider (2013)

Xbox 360

2015-03-01

2013-03-05

$19.99

http://www.tekrevue.com/complete-xbox-games-with-gold-list-details/

However, I do appreciate you trying to help out with actual true information for fellow "magicalclick" making the claim otherwise.

It's nice to know people like yourself, myself, and others are able to look and see clearly that July 2013's GWG games were DG and AC2, and not Tomb Raider which at the time was a few months old. TR became available in March 2015, almost two years later.

Thanks again for your post. :)

@SolidTy: We co opping Halo 5?

Sure man, I don't see why not. :P

Survival element needs to be done better

Uncharted does uncharted well. If the series had it's own identity outside of torture porn, I might be a bit more upset it was snaked away from Ps4 for however long.

I'd play...

http://venturebeat.com/2015/06/15/halo-5-guardians-features-exciting-4-player-co-op-and-new-enemies/

Microsoft spilled more details about the Halo 5: Guardians video game at a press briefing today at the Electronic Entertainment Expo — including four-player co-op.

Cool.

Let's hope 343 can deliver.

I really enjoyed the first one. Found it much more engaging than UC.

Unlike others I liked Halo 4. Really haven't had an issue with them except online being screwed on MCC. But I'm more a campaign guy any how.