A few problems with PC gaming that SW doesnt seem to know!

seems strange a pc gamer would seek to highlight two "problems" with pc gaming so insignificant that nobody, not even the most avid consolite, has bothered to bring them up before. as far as "problems" go those are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

also judging from your spec youre due an upgrade. pc gaming ftw :D

Macutchi

Though BFG has stopped making video cards, this warranty still exist for my card as I registered it in the correct and timely fashion. jedikevin2

I'm using a pair of BFG cards, and I must admit that when/if they break, I have no idea what they'd be able to replace them with. They're not exactly making any more of them.

Though BFG has stopped making video cards, this warranty still exist for my card as I registered it in the correct and timely fashion.

jedikevin2

BFG has not stopped making video cards.

Oops my bad. I meant newer model cards or atleast just haulted producing more while having a good inventory of the old. Sorry bought that Hakkai007.

(on a side note... I wonder if they will make that gtx 460 card. Seems the be of possible good build quality and could stack up to BFG's policies and warranty specs)

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Though BFG has stopped making video cards, this warranty still exist for my card as I registered it in the correct and timely fashion.

Hakkai007

BFG has not stopped making video cards.

I'm using a pair of BFG cards, and I must admit that when/if they break, I have no idea what they'd be able to replace them with. They're not exactly making any more of them.

lowe0

They will give you a brand new card.

Like I said my friend had his 8800GTX die and they do not produce those anymore.

So they replaced his with a GTX 275.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

I'm using a pair of BFG cards, and I must admit that when/if they break, I have no idea what they'd be able to replace them with. They're not exactly making any more of them.

Hakkai007

They will give you a brand new card.

Like I said my friend had his 8800GTX die and they do not produce those anymore.

So they replaced his with a GTX 275.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Adjusting settings is a problem? Are you really serious? That is a plus my man, not a negative. Who even uses auto-select? Half the fun is doing it on you know your own.Gambler_3

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Though BFG has stopped making video cards, this warranty still exist for my card as I registered it in the correct and timely fashion.

Hakkai007

BFG has not stopped making video cards.

Yes they did.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24696

if you can plug in a tv and set the date/time you can tinker with graphics settings on a pc game

it's really not very hard

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Though BFG has stopped making video cards, this warranty still exist for my card as I registered it in the correct and timely fashion.

lowe0

BFG has not stopped making video cards.

Weird they still sell GTX 470s and GTX 480s on their website.

I wonder how they will handle replacements if they don't produce anymore video cards.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

I'm using a pair of BFG cards, and I must admit that when/if they break, I have no idea what they'd be able to replace them with. They're not exactly making any more of them.

lowe0

They will give you a brand new card.

Like I said my friend had his 8800GTX die and they do not produce those anymore.

So they replaced his with a GTX 275.

My guess they will replace it with whatever is closest to it in performance.

I only have a gtx 285 and never have to mess with settings:? I run everything max except crysis. I have had my gaming pc for 1 1/2 years now and I have to say I have experianced very little frustration with running games.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

No that's not what I said. Lifetime warranty only exists in north america and since this is system wars and not american system wars, lifetime warranty is not really a very strong point when the majority of PC gamers cant utilize it.

And no I didnt overclock my card, I have a pretty expensive power supply with alot of protections in it like overvoltage\undervoltage and short circuit protection. My card died with the PC on idle. You can look up the internet forums, most peoples card die in 2-3 years.

My card died sometime ago and now I have a much better card, as much as it may seem to you this thread isnt for some personal reasons!

jedikevin2

You do as a base case understand this GS forum is based in North America correct? Thats just a quick fyi though. While warranties can sometimes not help the consumer, excluding that they do help a major portion is also a wrong attitude to have. You do know that if you do research you can find cards that do have lifetime warranties (most are 10 years actually) for countries outside of US and Canada?

For example, when I bought my GTS 250 it was from BFG. My warranty as stands now is,

"Product is protected for the product's lifetime in the United States and Canada, and 10 years from the date of purchase in all countries outside the US and Canada, against defects in material and workmanship."

Though BFG has stopped making video cards, this warranty still exist for my card as I registered it in the correct and timely fashion. This is just one example as I follow the conditions of my video card warranties. I can bet, many other companies have some things similiar to this. (not saying they all do). It is again the end user responsibility to find out this kind of information. Its is their own problem if they picked a product that could have been covered if they aquired it from another company.

Onto your next statement. You are making a speculatory statement on video card longevity . You read forums where people cards die and since yours died, and are presuming "most peoples card dies in 2-3 years." That is a wrong assertion to have.

Also, what does "personal reasons" have to do with how you presented your arguments? You are basing issues on meaningless conjecture or short sighted opinions.

Btw there was a recent poll on the off topic forum and the majority of people were non-american....

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

BFG has not stopped making video cards.

Hakkai007

Weird they still sell GTX 470s and GTX 480s on their website.

I wonder how they will handle replacements if they don't produce anymore video cards.

Not really big problems. The first will likely take a few minutes to configure, unless the game does it automatically.

The second point isn't really relevant as you seem to have pulled the 2-3 year argument from nowhere. You then go on t state about people having it last more than that length of time, and that simply being "an exception that doesn't change the picture". If you can't back up your 2-3 year statement, then that is also an "exception".

I only have a gtx 285 and never have to mess with settings:? I run everything max except crysis. I have had my gaming pc for 1 1/2 years now and I have to say I have experianced very little frustration with running games.

Advid-Gamer

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

I only have a gtx 285 and never have to mess with settings:? I run everything max except crysis. I have had my gaming pc for 1 1/2 years now and I have to say I have experianced very little frustration with running games.

Gambler_3

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Ummmmmm....

lowe0

Weird they still sell GTX 470s and GTX 480s on their website.

I wonder how they will handle replacements if they don't produce anymore video cards.

Then I guess you are screwed.

I know some people who work in the RMA department so I can squeeze on in if there is anything left lol!

I don't think any video card company will last for too long.

It seems like BFG may go out of business all together but if they hang on to one small portion I bet they can make a return when the new series of video cards come out.

Settings and graphics cards????? really??????

You know your lazy when adjusting the settings counts as a problem. Graphics cards are cheap.

This thread never left the Failport

akira2465

Newton's third law, people. For every opinion in SW, there is an equal and opposite opinion.

Gambler_3

Yea thats system wars If I start a thread called anti cancer there would be like 10 people who are pro cancer.

Back on topic I never had to adjust settings when I played PC at my friends house. I have had a question about PC though is local multi player possible on the PC I wouldnt think It would be but I just want to make sure because thats the most fun thing about gaming.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Ummmmmm....

lowe0

Weird they still sell GTX 470s and GTX 480s on their website.

I wonder how they will handle replacements if they don't produce anymore video cards.

I always by the cheaper mid to high end cards.

Even if my 8800gt dies and I can't get it replaced it only costs around 80 dollars to get a card with the same performance.

My 8800gt is still in good shape though.

Good thing I got my BFG power supply replaced a few months ago.

[QUOTE="akira2465"]

Settings and graphics cards????? really??????

You know your lazy when adjusting the settings counts as a problem. Graphics cards are cheap.

This thread never left the Failport

Lost-Memory

Yup, and the bold text is the reason why you've never experienced any significant problems.

Go ask your parents, your GF/wife or someone that primarely games on a console how he's supposed to get rid of those jaggies. I find it incredible (in a negative way) how some people simply can't comprehend that adjusting graphic settings is not as easy as we believe it is. We're used to it, right click on desktop > select NVIDIA Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings and start tweaking. IT'S EASY ... FOR US.

But since you guys are so hardcore, let's do a little test. If you have a very old game, I'm talking +5 years, that doesn't support 1080p resolution, how do you make it run 1080p anyway?

[QUOTE="Lost-Memory"][QUOTE="akira2465"]

Settings and graphics cards????? really??????

You know your lazy when adjusting the settings counts as a problem. Graphics cards are cheap.

This thread never left the Failport

CAPSROGUE

Yup, and the bold text is the reason why you've never experienced any significant problems.

Go ask your parents, your GF/wife or someone that primarely games on a console how he's supposed to get rid of those jaggies. I find it incredible (in a negative way) how some people simply can't comprehend that adjusting graphic settings is not as easy as we believe it is. We're used to it, right click on desktop > select NVIDIA Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings and start tweaking. IT'S EASY ... FOR US.

But since you guys are so hardcore, let's do a little test. If you have a very old game, I'm talking +5 years, that doesn't support 1080p resolution, how do you make it run 1080p anyway?

There are ways to manually change the config files.

There are also fan made patches to change the game resolution.

I play Planescape Torment at 1280x800 on my laptop and 1680x1050 on my desktop using a fan made patch that alters the resolution.

There are fan sites dedicated to doing this.

There are ways to manually change the config files.

There are also fan made patches to change the game resolution.

I play Planescape Torment at 1280x800 on my laptop and 1680x1050 on my desktop using a fan made patch that alters the resolution.

There are fan sites dedicated to doing this.

Hakkai007

All I read is "I used something someone else made". You [hardcores], in all your infinite wisedom, should know how to do this and no it does not require any config.ini changes.

no what SW needs to understand is that, gamers paying for servers are the backbone of PC online gaming

It depends on the game and yes I know how to do it but I rather just have a patch do it than do it myself.

If there is no patch then I don't mind.

WHat you do is use a hex program and open up the game exe and change a certain set of values to change the original defualt settings to the settings you want.

Each resolution has it's own values though.

A multiplatform game on high settings 1440x900 resolution and 2 X AA will look better than the console version. you don't need 1920x1080p 8 X AA and graphcs mods with ultra settings like I run my games :D

A multiplatform game on high settings 1440x900 resolution and 2 X AA will look better than the console version. you don't need 1920x1080p 8 X AA and graphcs mods with ultra settings like I run my games :D

hd5870corei7

But it is nice:D Seriously have a gaming pc has spoiled me with graphics, I laugh at the 360/ps3 pixel wars on here now.

graphics dont matter, stop caring about them, you miss out on sooo many games, like killing floor

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

I only have a gtx 285 and never have to mess with settings:? I run everything max except crysis. I have had my gaming pc for 1 1/2 years now and I have to say I have experianced very little frustration with running games.

Advid-Gamer

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Though BFG has stopped making video cards, this warranty still exist for my card as I registered it in the correct and timely fashion.

Hakkai007

BFG has not stopped making video cards.

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Hakkai007

Incase you were wondering, right click shortcut, and type right next "C:/..." "xres=#### yres=####" without the " and replace #### with your resolutions.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]So what settings do you run crysis in?

ferret-gamer

Isn't V. High DX10? If so, he could be using XP.

Yeah I always end up stressing too much about the settings in the framerate, and it can take away from my enjoyment of the game.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]So what settings do you run crysis in?

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] High 1920x1080, very high textures are not even a option for my video card, before my gtx285, I had a 3870 and high textures were not a option for it. I could run everything on very high- the textures but I dont like the slow downs.lundy86_4

Isn't V. High DX10? If so, he could be using XP.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] High 1920x1080, very high textures are not even a option for my video card, before my gtx285, I had a 3870 and high textures were not a option for it. I could run everything on very high- the textures but I dont like the slow downs.Advid-Gamer

Adjusting settings is a problem? Are you really serious? That is a plus my man, not a negative. Who even uses auto-select? Half the fun is doing it on you know your own.millerlight89

It's because many console gamers don't like to do things on their own and like limited options.:lol:

Hey I kid, I kid.:P I'm a console gamer too.:P .... [spoiler] BUT IT'S STILL TRUE!:P [/spoiler]

...:lol: this thread just shows how lazy and unable a console gamer can be.. So basically you just pretty much dissed us:x

no I have vista 64, going to pop in crysis real quick to see.

Advid-Gamer

Well that's... Odd.

That was my only guess, but I dunno what else it could be.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

no I have vista 64, going to pop in crysis real quick to see.

lundy86_4

Well that's... Odd.

That was my only guess, but I dunno what else it could be.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

no I have vista 64, going to pop in crysis real quick to see.

Advid-Gamer

Well that's... Odd.

That was my only guess, but I dunno what else it could be.

only reason i'm not a bigger pc gamer is my pc specs suck, they can't run crysis even on the minimum settings, besides that one little fact i love pc gaming

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

no I have vista 64, going to pop in crysis real quick to see.

Advid-Gamer

Well that's... Odd.

That was my only guess, but I dunno what else it could be.

Haha, good to see the issue is resolved. Anyone with your card should ask, nay, *demand* to have V.High options :P