A gaming pc is more expensive than a console ?

If you're reading this you surely have a pc (at least 90%) . Let's assume that you have a pc from last gen , or just a weak one wich you're using for the internet . The only things you need for it are a motherboard , a graphics card , memory , a cpu and a power supplie. Let's do a list and see what's the final price .

the 9600gt graphics card is around 200$ . An Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 is 120$ . 2gb of memory are 35$ . A motherboard is around 50$ and a power supplie 30$ .

=435$ .

That's almost the price of the ps3 in my country . And you have an almost high-end pc , that will run all games at high details , and will still do it after 2 years . And you have more high quality games , superior controls (and you can always use a gamepad if you don't like it) , rts , wrpgs and fps (genres that distinguishes hardcore gamers from casual gamers ) , you can browse the internet , use photoshop , write your own games , have tons of free games , you can mod your games , flexibility , and many many other things , some that i don't think i can discuss here , that a console can't do .

So why do i see everywhere saying that computers are WAY more expensive than consoles ? And why it's all his flexibility treaten like a disadvantage ? Tell me why should i buy a console , except 10 good exclusives (and half of them will end up on pc ) .

2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?wildwild

>$250 or it's not cheaper.

Man, the thing that gets me most when people do these ultra cheap builds is they always cheap out on the power supply. As if a $30 power supply will even be somewhat reliable. Although, now that I think about it, comparing it to the price of a 360 is reasonable, since both are probably prone to fail around the same time :lol:

But when I do PC builds, I definitely don't cheap out on a PSU. You want solid, reliable power that doesn't fluctuate or all your components could fail at some point. It's more than just max wattage :o

You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)DaGamingGod

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

.... Fakeboy...

Listen, PC gaming is more expensive. Not as much as console users want to believe it is, but it IS more expensive. Your prices are also made up or bad choices for a component... A $30 PSU will just fry your PC.... And a $50 mobo will likely be DoA(Dead on Arrival) or short out within a month.

2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?wildwild

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)WARxSnake

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

hehe the 8800GTX was special. It's still one of the best cards on the market and it's almost 1,5 years old.

>$250 or it's not cheaper.

yoshi_64

the ps3 is 600 not 250, so it can be cheeper

I don't have a pc I have a laptop :?

So do 99% of college students

EDIT: And what about the people with Macs

You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)DaGamingGod

And what if the computer you're browsing on is not yours?HuusAsking

2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?wildwild

[QUOTE="wildwild"]2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?Tiefster

2GB stick(not 2x1GB or 4x512mb but 2GB stick....) with no heat spreader.... at $31. that is a disaster waiting to happen....

Melt the RAM into your Mobo so after the RAM is dies(which it would) you can't even get it out of the slots so you have to buy a whole new mobo....

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)WARxSnake

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

doubt it, PS3 will last a good five years. A gaming pc needs to be upgraded at least every two years. At the bare minimum you will need a new graphics card, usually a new mobo, a new processor, more ram and a bigger powersupply. You will also need to upgrade to Vista if you want DX10.

Some games are better on a console some are better on PC. I personally have a PC and PS3 and I feel like it's a good combo.

I don't have a pc I have a laptop :?

So do 99% of college students

EDIT: And what about the people with Macs

f50p90

Unless you have one of those cheap $500,- laptops you're fine. You may not run games like crysis, but there are plenty of games which will run nicely.

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)EmperorSupreme

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

doubt it, PS3 will last a good five years. A gaming pc needs to be upgraded at least every two years. At the bare minimum you will need a new graphics card, usually a new mobo, a new processor, more ram and a bigger powersupply. You will also need to upgrade to Vista if you want DX10..

Is that sarcasm or not? I survived 3 years on a 6600GT and could probably even get 4 out of it in the long run, sure it looks awful but it's doable.

and yes I did upgrade recently, but every game I own is still playable on my old pc.

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="wildwild"]2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?horrowhip

2GB stick(not 2x1GB or 4x512mb but 2GB stick....) with no heat spreader.... at $31. that is a disaster waiting to happen....

Melt the RAM into your Mobo so after the RAM is dies(which it would) you can't even get it out of the slots so you have to buy a whole new mobo....

in all seriousness, heatsinks on ram is stupid and are sold just because people will buy them. if you have good air cooling to start with, thats more than enough to cool DIMM slots.

PC gaming is more expensive in hardware and less expensive in software.

how much more expensive depends on what you have for a pc already.

how much less expensive in software is usually 10 bucks for new games and 20-30 bucks for 6 months to 1 year old games.

pc games drop in price MUCH faster than console games. if you're a heavy gamer that buys 20 games a year that's at least 200 in savings on hardware in the first year if you bought all new games. if you wait a few months to buy half (after all it takes time to play games too) of those you'd save about 300 in the first year.

the biggest advantages of consoles is the ease of use and being able to rent full games.

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[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="wildwild"]2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?WARxSnake

2GB stick(not 2x1GB or 4x512mb but 2GB stick....) with no heat spreader.... at $31. that is a disaster waiting to happen....

Melt the RAM into your Mobo so after the RAM is dies(which it would) you can't even get it out of the slots so you have to buy a whole new mobo....

in all seriousness, heatsinks on ram is stupid and are sold just because people will buy them. if you have good air cooling to start with, thats more than enough to cool DIMM slots.

true.... but then again.... $31 RAM... I dunno.

Yes it is more expensive and more of a headache.

Next question.

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)WARxSnake

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)EmperorSupreme

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

doubt it, PS3 will last a good five years. A gaming pc needs to be upgraded at least every two years. At the bare minimum you will need a new graphics card, usually a new mobo, a new processor, more ram and a bigger powersupply. You will also need to upgrade to Vista if you want DX10.

Some games are better on a console some are better on PC. I personally have a PC and PS3 and I feel like it's a good combo.

i can run crysis at max settings on XP on DX9 with all the dx10 effects so no, i do not need vista, and i do not need dx10.

and until the ps3 can run Crysis the way it is on my pc (very high settings 1050p) , my parts will outlast my PS3, simple as that.

i dont need a new mobo unless i find pcix2.0 to be necessary which it isnt when you compare to a consoles performance. i also dont need to upgrade my cpu because i can still overclock it to even 4.0GHz Quad core with the cooling i have. my ram is more than enough, and then i look at my ps3 with 512megs of ram and i laugh.

seriously, there is no competition, and my PC, the way it is configured now and the way it has been configured for over a year now will outlast my ps3.

I am a technology whore so I will however by the best of the best all the time, like I will buy the 9800GTX or GX2 when they get released, and I will buy an Intel Sulltrail with dual 6-core penryns. BUT if i wasnt a tech whore, i could easily keep what i have and have it outlast any console of this gen.

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)DaGamingGod

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

and how is a 9600gt not going to be able to handle the next 3 years? i have clanmates that are still on 6series geforce cards and they play everything except for crysis.

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)WARxSnake

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

and how is a 9600gt not going to be able to handle the next 3 years? i have clanmates that are still on 6series geforce cards and they play everything except for crysis.

If you're reading this you surely have a pc (at least 90%) . Let's assume that you have a pc from last gen , or just a weak one wich you're using for the internet . The only things you need for it are a motherboard , a graphics card , memory , a cpu and a power supplie. Let's do a list and see what's the final price .

the 9600gt graphics card is around 200$ . An Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 is 120$ . 2gb of memory are 35$ . A motherboard is around 50$ and a power supplie 30$ .

=435$ .

That's almost the price of the ps3 in my country . And you have an almost high-end pc , that will run all games at high details , and will still do it after 2 years . And you have more high quality games , superior controls (and you can always use a gamepad if you don't like it) , rts , wrpgs and fps (genres that distinguishes hardcore gamers from casual gamers ) , you can browse the internet , use photoshop , write your own games , have tons of free games , you can mod your games , flexibility , and many many other things , some that i don't think i can discuss here , that a console can't do .

So why do i see everywhere saying that computers are WAY more expensive than consoles ? And why it's all his flexibility treaten like a disadvantage ? Tell me why should i buy a console , except 10 good exclusives (and half of them will end up on pc ) .

evilsoul121

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)DaGamingGod

uhh, why?

my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...

and how is a 9600gt not going to be able to handle the next 3 years? i have clanmates that are still on 6series geforce cards and they play everything except for crysis.

last i checked all my clanmates bought cod4 tf2 and all the games we play with a single click of a mouse button and the game was automatically installed and ready to play in a couple hours or depending on their connection. no one had driver issues. its usually the newer cards that have driver issues anyway...

and i disagree completely with your 'latest and greatest all on consoles' statement. I can easily tell you all the greatest games are pc exclusives and multiplats that are made better on pc.. so what

Here is the deal. you first Gaming PC Build will cost way more than a consol. but then after that all you halfto do is upgrade youre graphics card witch usually costs half the price of a new consol. so usually you can yuse youre PC for maby 15 years Longer if you get the best tech at the time (thats 15 years if you Keep upgrading to the BEST graphics card out)

(this is all a possibility i dont think it has ben done)

Here is the deal. you first Gaming PC Build will cost way more than a consol. but then after that all you halfto do is upgrade youre graphics card witch usually costs half the price of a new consol. so usually you can yuse youre PC for maby 15 years Longer if you get the best tech at the time (thats 15 years if you Keep upgrading to the BEST graphics card out)

(this is all a possibility i dont think it has ben done)

hofuldig

WarxSnake, the greatest games are not released on PC's anymore. As for your "clanmates" being able to pop in a game and play it with a single click of a mouse button, how about you have them pop in Crysis? Lets see what happens then.DaGamingGod

WarxSnake, the greatest games are not released on PC's anymore. As for your "clanmates" being able to pop in a game and play it with a single click of a mouse button, how about you have them pop in Crysis? Lets see what happens then.DaGamingGod

see this is what ALWAYS happens in pc topics. people always forget what the topic is about and go off course. read the title again, this is another pc vs console. does your console play crysis? no? okay.

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]WarxSnake, the greatest games are not released on PC's anymore. As for your "clanmates" being able to pop in a game and play it with a single click of a mouse button, how about you have them pop in Crysis? Lets see what happens then.thegoldenpoo

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]WarxSnake, the greatest games are not released on PC's anymore. As for your "clanmates" being able to pop in a game and play it with a single click of a mouse button, how about you have them pop in Crysis? Lets see what happens then.WARxSnake

see this is what ALWAYS happens in pc topics. people always forget what the topic is about and go off course. read the title again, this is another pc vs console. does your console play crysis? no? okay.

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]WarxSnake, the greatest games are not released on PC's anymore. As for your "clanmates" being able to pop in a game and play it with a single click of a mouse button, how about you have them pop in Crysis? Lets see what happens then.DaGamingGod

you implied it. and anyway, since when can you play audiosurf and sins of a solar empire on your console? those are latest and greatest.

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]WarxSnake, the greatest games are not released on PC's anymore. As for your "clanmates" being able to pop in a game and play it with a single click of a mouse button, how about you have them pop in Crysis? Lets see what happens then.DaGamingGod

see this is what ALWAYS happens in pc topics. people always forget what the topic is about and go off course. read the title again, this is another pc vs console. does your console play crysis? no? okay.

if i were you, id learn a tad more about game developement and hardware before starting to compare a possible console version of crysis to the pc version. and like i said, you're drifting off topic, this isnt about crysis, this is about what platform is more expensive. but good job killing the thread.

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]WarxSnake, the greatest games are not released on PC's anymore. As for your "clanmates" being able to pop in a game and play it with a single click of a mouse button, how about you have them pop in Crysis? Lets see what happens then.WARxSnake

see this is what ALWAYS happens in pc topics. people always forget what the topic is about and go off course. read the title again, this is another pc vs console. does your console play crysis? no? okay.

if i were you, id learn a tad more about game developement and hardware before starting to compare a possible console version of crysis to the pc version. and like i said, you're drifting off topic, this isnt about crysis, this is about what platform is more expensive. but good job killing the thread.

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]WarxSnake, the greatest games are not released on PC's anymore. As for your "clanmates" being able to pop in a game and play it with a single click of a mouse button, how about you have them pop in Crysis? Lets see what happens then.DaGamingGod

see this is what ALWAYS happens in pc topics. people always forget what the topic is about and go off course. read the title again, this is another pc vs console. does your console play crysis? no? okay.

if i were you, id learn a tad more about game developement and hardware before starting to compare a possible console version of crysis to the pc version. and like i said, you're drifting off topic, this isnt about crysis, this is about what platform is more expensive. but good job killing the thread.

your pix wont prove to me that you know how to get the best out of your hardware. upgrading every 2 to 3 years? last i checked cod4 can max out on a 6800GT

2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?wildwild

I can found you 4 with 48$

About TC!

PC as a "console" its indeed far more expensive than console. Its a fact -end of story

Its a fact also that it offers (game-wise because thats what we are talking now) a lot more than any single console.Name a few:

1)Best BC there is. You can play easily all PC games since 1996. Thats what i call BC.. :)

2)Great FPS-RTS-MMORPG experience. Not only because of the controls/internet gaming but because of teh BIG community-tournaments helding worldwide and the competition there is thru these games. Totally pownage for FPS-RTS-MMOs gamers.

3)A system that is plays ALL previous gen console-handheld games and even ARCADE titles via Emu. And when i say ALL i mean it. So what ,it got BC on consoles too? Oo Thats pownage too !! :) ( Its legal by law to download and play these games,when you got already teh originals)

4)Great free and not only,online gaming experience.From the simplest yahoo-google games to the more advanced WEB-mmos or Free mmorpgs/shooters games. You easily can find such a game via thousands over the internet and have fun with other users/gamers aroudn the globe.

5) Technically and graphically (not to mention content wise) gaming on PC is the higest quality for any multiplatform game till today. (With so little exceptions that cant think of one). For example Gears of War. Extra content and all with some scenes never seen before on 360 etc. Thats a plus for PC. (Even if i dont know whats the differences ppl and dev talking a bout because i never finished teh game on 360).

6)Mods,mods and again mods. Lets sya youre fan of HL2 and source engine. You can play via other circumstances and gameplay or even story modes of your favorite games.And guess what .. FOR FREE!!! Thats add a lot of value to games.Considering that and the fact that you can find the best new PC titles for 29 to 39euros (via 59 to 79euros for consoles) its another plus for PC gaming.

Because lets say till the end of this gen youll buy 10-20 console games. Youll spend around 599/700 to 1298/1400 euros via 299/598 to 399/798 euros. The difference of these prices can fill up the difference of hardware price(if you bought a high end PC ). And there you go.

Now if you cant live without SMG or MGS4 or any other high quality game that wont find its way on the PC,then a console is for you :). And plz dont start with the upgrades PCs need, because i own a PC 5 years now and still im playing COD4 on 1024x768 max setting with nice frames,and havent upgrade it since then even once.

The thing is simple.

You want to play what consoles can offer or PC? And you can make your choice,for your tastes and your wallet.

[QUOTE="wildwild"]2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?AzatiS

I can found you 4 with 48$

About TC!

PC as a "console" its indeed far more expensive than console. Its a fact -end of story

Its a fact also that it offers (game-wise because thats what we are talking now) a lot more than any single console.Name a few:

1)Best BC there is. You can play easily all PC games since 1996. Thats what i call BC.. :)

2)Great FPS-RTS-MMORPG experience. Not only because of the controls/internet gaming but because of teh BIG community-tournaments helding worldwide and the competition there is thru these games. Totally pownage for FPS-RTS-MMOs gamers.

3)A system that is plays ALL previous gen console-handheld games and even ARCADE titles via Emu. And when i say ALL i mean it. So what ,it got BC on consoles too? Oo Thats pownage too !! :) ( Its legal by law to download and play these games,when you got already teh originals)

4)Great free and not only,online gaming experience.From the simplest yahoo-google games to the more advanced WEB-mmos or Free mmorpgs/shooters games. You easily can find such a game via thousands over the internet and have fun with other users/gamers aroudn the globe.

5) Technically and graphically (not to mention content wise) gaming on PC is the higest quality for any multiplatform game till today. (With so little exceptions that cant think of one). For example Gears of War. Extra content and all with some scenes never seen before on 360 etc. Thats a plus for PC. (Even if i dont know whats the differences ppl and dev talking a bout because i never finished teh game on 360).

6)Mods,mods and again mods. Lets sya youre fan of HL2 and source engine. You can play via other circumstances and gameplay or even story modes of your favorite games.And guess what .. FOR FREE!!! Thats add a lot of value to games.Considering that and the fact that you can find the best new PC titles for 29 to 39euros (via 59 to 79euros for consoles) its another plus for PC gaming.

Because lets say till the end of this gen youll buy 10-20 console games. Youll spend around 599/700 to 1298/1400 euros via 299/598 to 399/798 euros. The difference of these prices can fill up the difference of hardware price(if you bought a high end PC ). And there you go.

Now if you cant live without SMG or MGS4 or any other high quality game that wont find its way on the PC,then a console is for you :). And plz dont start with the upgrades PCs need, because i own a PC 5 years now and still im playing COD4 on 1024x768 max setting with nice frames,and havent upgrade it since then even once.

The thing is simple.

You want to play what consoles can offer or PC? And you can make your choice,for your tastes and your wallet.

Gamers love consoles because they are very convenient. They don't have to worry about drivers, spyware/viruses dragging down performance and they don't have to worry about if a new game would run well on their system. They also don't have to worry about not receiving the latest and greatest games which are mostly all on consoles these days except Crysis (for now).
DaGamingGod

Even if i don't agree with all of that , i don't know about the others but i prefer to worry about those than to worry if my console will rrod me . And i still don't see why the lack of flexibility is the greatest advantage of the consoles. Someone that LIKES to play a game will surely want extra content and other things .