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[QUOTE="paullywog"]Wait, you can build a pc that can run assassin's creed at the same level as a 360 for under $350? where can i get this??Bebi_vegeta
No where.
But I can get you a PC for about 600$ playing higher then 600p on COD4.
Vegeta is right. You can build a console killer rig for $600. Yeah it is more expensive than console gaming, but the PC can do a hell of alot more.
Yes I did see the requirements. It's a pretty big game that requires a good PC to run. Did you expect an old card to run it well? LoL! You must not have owned a gaming PC long enough to know these things.DaGamingGod
Wow... your on wok7 level now, congrats.
Yes I did see the requirements. It's a pretty big game that requires a good PC to run. Did you expect an old card to run it well? LoL! You must not have owned a gaming PC long enough to know these things. The TC tried to prove that a PC does not cost as much as a console which in fact, it does. Assassin's Creed is another reason as to why consoles are cheaper and more convenient for most gamers. DaGamingGodHow can you justify this due to Ubisoft's(or should I say EA) awful optimization?
Double Agent: Awfuly optimized.
R6 Vegas: Awfuly optimized
Guess who were the developers? Ubisoft Montreal!
PC is gaming is more expensive but not by a lot and it completely smokes out console hardware.
[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Yes I did see the requirements. It's a pretty big game that requires a good PC to run. Did you expect an old card to run it well? LoL! You must not have owned a gaming PC long enough to know these things.Bebi_vegeta
Wow... your on wok7 level now, congrats.
It's you're, not your.How can you justify this due to Ubisoft's(or should I say EA) awful optimization?[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Yes I did see the requirements. It's a pretty big game that requires a good PC to run. Did you expect an old card to run it well? LoL! You must not have owned a gaming PC long enough to know these things. The TC tried to prove that a PC does not cost as much as a console which in fact, it does. Assassin's Creed is another reason as to why consoles are cheaper and more convenient for most gamers. mo0ksi
Double Agent: Awfuly optimized.
R6 Vegas: Awfuly optimized
Guess who were the developers? Ubisoft Montreal!
PC is gaming is more expensive but not by a lot and it completely smokes out console hardware.
Those games ran fine on my last videocard which was a 7900GT and it also ran fine on a buddies 7800GT.PC gaming IS more expensive. Enough said. Don't get me wrong, PC gaming is great but my original point was that it IS more expensive than just buying a console.
[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="paullywog"]Wait, you can build a pc that can run assassin's creed at the same level as a 360 for under $350? where can i get this??Bebi_vegeta
No where.
But I can get you a PC for about 600$ playing higher then 600p on COD4.
You're right. Nowhere. Which is another reason as to why consoles are cheaper. Thank you!Definition of writing = The act of creating written works.
Definition of typing = Typing is the process of inputting text into a device.
Clear enough?
Btw, we don't type in french in these forums. Keep it in english or don't bother posting.
HAHAHA is this a new rule?
Why don't you create a thread asking folks if it's ok for you to reply to threads in french or other languages other than english. =)[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="paullywog"]Wait, you can build a pc that can run assassin's creed at the same level as a 360 for under $350? where can i get this??DaGamingGod
No where.
But I can get you a PC for about 600$ playing higher then 600p on COD4.
You're right. Nowhere. Which is another reason as to why consoles are cheaper. Thank you!Definition of writing = The act of creating written works.
Definition of typing = Typing is the process of inputting text into a device.
Clear enough?
Btw, we don't type in french in these forums. Keep it in english or don't bother posting.
HAHAHA is this a new rule?
Why don't you create a thread asking folks if it's ok for you to reply to threads in french or other languages other than english. =)Cause it has nothing to do with system wars.
[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]How can you justify this due to Ubisoft's(or should I say EA) awful optimization?[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Yes I did see the requirements. It's a pretty big game that requires a good PC to run. Did you expect an old card to run it well? LoL! You must not have owned a gaming PC long enough to know these things. The TC tried to prove that a PC does not cost as much as a console which in fact, it does. Assassin's Creed is another reason as to why consoles are cheaper and more convenient for most gamers. DaGamingGod
Double Agent: Awfuly optimized.
R6 Vegas: Awfuly optimized
Guess who were the developers? Ubisoft Montreal!
PC is gaming is more expensive but not by a lot and it completely smokes out console hardware.
Those games ran fine on my last videocard which was a 7900GT and it also ran fine on a buddies 7800GT.PC gaming IS more expensive. Enough said. Don't get me wrong, PC gaming is great but my original point was that it IS more expensive than just buying a console.
Double agent, also ran awful on the PS3.
[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]How can you justify this due to Ubisoft's(or should I say EA) awful optimization?[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Yes I did see the requirements. It's a pretty big game that requires a good PC to run. Did you expect an old card to run it well? LoL! You must not have owned a gaming PC long enough to know these things. The TC tried to prove that a PC does not cost as much as a console which in fact, it does. Assassin's Creed is another reason as to why consoles are cheaper and more convenient for most gamers. Bebi_vegeta
Double Agent: Awfuly optimized.
R6 Vegas: Awfuly optimized
Guess who were the developers? Ubisoft Montreal!
PC is gaming is more expensive but not by a lot and it completely smokes out console hardware.
Those games ran fine on my last videocard which was a 7900GT and it also ran fine on a buddies 7800GT.PC gaming IS more expensive. Enough said. Don't get me wrong, PC gaming is great but my original point was that it IS more expensive than just buying a console.
Double agent, also ran awful on the PS3.
It ran aweful because the game was created for the 360's hardware in mind and not the PS3's (Cell). It ran fine on PC because the 360 and PC are very similar.Bebi_vegeta, you don't have to post that question in system wars. You know there are other boards right? LoL! DaGamingGod
I'm not really interested in other boards... so you can post the question yourself if it's really important to you.
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]How can you justify this due to Ubisoft's(or should I say EA) awful optimization?[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Yes I did see the requirements. It's a pretty big game that requires a good PC to run. Did you expect an old card to run it well? LoL! You must not have owned a gaming PC long enough to know these things. The TC tried to prove that a PC does not cost as much as a console which in fact, it does. Assassin's Creed is another reason as to why consoles are cheaper and more convenient for most gamers. DaGamingGod
Double Agent: Awfuly optimized.
R6 Vegas: Awfuly optimized
Guess who were the developers? Ubisoft Montreal!
PC is gaming is more expensive but not by a lot and it completely smokes out console hardware.
Those games ran fine on my last videocard which was a 7900GT and it also ran fine on a buddies 7800GT.PC gaming IS more expensive. Enough said. Don't get me wrong, PC gaming is great but my original point was that it IS more expensive than just buying a console.
Double agent, also ran awful on the PS3.
It ran aweful because the game was created for the 360's hardware in mind and not the PS3's (Cell). It ran fine on PC because the 360 and PC are very similar.Making it? Ah yes, an awful port.
[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Bebi_vegeta, you don't have to post that question in system wars. You know there are other boards right? LoL! Bebi_vegeta
I'm not really interested in other boards... so you can post the question yourself if it's really important to you.
This proves to me that all you care about is making yourself seem foolish and that you love to argue with people even when you're way off topic. PC gaming IS more expensive. That has been established. There should be nothing more for you to even type about. LoL!As for Double Agent being a bad port on the PS3, not really. The game wasn't created for the Cell in mind so obviously it's not going to run as well as the 360 version.
Anyways, we're off topic and we already know that PC gaming costs more than console gaming so just drop it and go find someone else to argue with. Try visiting other boards. You'll live longer. =)
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Bebi_vegeta, you don't have to post that question in system wars. You know there are other boards right? LoL! DaGamingGod
I'm not really interested in other boards... so you can post the question yourself if it's really important to you.
This proves to me that all you care about is making yourself seem foolish and that you love to argue to people even when you're way off topic. PC gaming IS more expensive. That has been established. There should be nothing more for you to even type about. LoL!As for Double Agent being a bad port on the PS3, not really. The game wasn't created for the Cell in mind so obviously it's not going to run as well as the 360 version.
Anyways, we're off topic and we already know that PC gaming costs more than console gaming so just drop it and go find someone else to argue with. Try going into other boards even.
I neved said PC gaming wasn't more expensive, but it's cleary not that more expensive then consoles. As for off topic discussions, your not so bad yourself.
Double agent for the PS3 is clearly a bad port... with bad optimization for the cell, hence making it a bad port.
Well you can come any day in PC Hardware forum if you wanna discuss or argue .
[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Bebi_vegeta, you don't have to post that question in system wars. You know there are other boards right? LoL! Bebi_vegeta
I'm not really interested in other boards... so you can post the question yourself if it's really important to you.
This proves to me that all you care about is making yourself seem foolish and that you love to argue to people even when you're way off topic. PC gaming IS more expensive. That has been established. There should be nothing more for you to even type about. LoL!As for Double Agent being a bad port on the PS3, not really. The game wasn't created for the Cell in mind so obviously it's not going to run as well as the 360 version.
Anyways, we're off topic and we already know that PC gaming costs more than console gaming so just drop it and go find someone else to argue with. Try going into other boards even.
I neved said PC gaming wasn't more expensive, but it's cleary not that more expensive then consoles. As for off topic discussions, your not so bad yourself.
Double agent for the PS3 is clearly a bad port... with bad optimization for the cell, hence making it a bad port.
Well you can come any day in PC Hardware forum if you wanna discuss or argue .
Again, it's you're, not your. =)Keyboard,mouse,case,OS,monitor (unless you want to use a tv),speakers,and DVD drive.Your forgetting all those.killab2oo5I can make one for 650 that can run crysis at medium high at 35 fps including all those ammenities. Excluding speakers. Headphones > speakers.
[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Keyboard,mouse,case,OS,monitor (unless you want to use a tv),speakers,and DVD drive.Your forgetting all those.VandalvideoI can make one for 650 that can run crysis at medium high at 35 fps including all those ammenities. Excluding speakers. Headphones > speakers.Thumbs up to you,knock yourself out...that is still 250 more than a 360. Also,the point I was making is that that PC he listed doesn't include all the required parts...so its going to be more than whatever price he listed.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Keyboard,mouse,case,OS,monitor (unless you want to use a tv),speakers,and DVD drive.Your forgetting all those.killab2oo5I can make one for 650 that can run crysis at medium high at 35 fps including all those ammenities. Excluding speakers. Headphones > speakers.Thumbs up to you,knock yourself out...that is still 250 more than a 360. Also,the point I was making is that that PC he listed doesn't include all the required parts...so its going to be more than whatever price he listed. And, thanks to cheaper games and other ammenities, its incredibly easy to negate that 250 bucks over a longer, extended period of time.
[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Keyboard,mouse,case,OS,monitor (unless you want to use a tv),speakers,and DVD drive.Your forgetting all those.VandalvideoI can make one for 650 that can run crysis at medium high at 35 fps including all those ammenities. Excluding speakers. Headphones > speakers.Thumbs up to you,knock yourself out...that is still 250 more than a 360. Also,the point I was making is that that PC he listed doesn't include all the required parts...so its going to be more than whatever price he listed. And, thanks to cheaper games and other ammenities, its incredibly easy to negate that 250 bucks over a longer, extended period of time.My games are also much cheaper when I buy them used over Ebay...so meh.What else?
]My games are also much cheaper when I buy them used over Ebay...so meh.What else?killab2oo5In that case, I can buy used PC games for 2 bucks at Mckay's used bookstore. Shandoloo yo.
[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]]My games are also much cheaper when I buy them used over Ebay...so meh.What else?VandalvideoIn that case, I can buy used PC games for 2 bucks at Mckay's used bookstore. Shandoloo yo.;) I advise you to look at the lots of console games on Ebay...very great deals.
[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Keyboard,mouse,case,OS,monitor (unless you want to use a tv),speakers,and DVD drive.Your forgetting all those.VandalvideoI can make one for 650 that can run crysis at medium high at 35 fps including all those ammenities. Excluding speakers. Headphones > speakers.But then the consolites will counter with the following. If a PS3 game gets released five years from now, it's guaranteed a PS3 will run it, and probably run it darn good. Can the same be said of a PC game released five years from now? What's to say a PC baseline requirement by then will be an octo-core CPU with 8GB of DDR3 or whatever comes next with a card compliant with DX12?
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Keyboard,mouse,case,OS,monitor (unless you want to use a tv),speakers,and DVD drive.Your forgetting all those.HuusAskingI can make one for 650 that can run crysis at medium high at 35 fps including all those ammenities. Excluding speakers. Headphones > speakers.But then the consolites will counter with the following. If a PS3 game gets released five years from now, it's guaranteed a PS3 will run it, and probably run it darn good. Can the same be said of a PC game released five years from now? What's to say a PC baseline requirement by then will be an octo-core CPU with 8GB of DDR3 or whatever comes next with a card compliant with DX12? To which I will reply, "And what, do you think the PCs just stand still? Crysis, the most technologically advanced game currently on the market and can't run on consoles, can be played on my already outdated rig. If thats the case, then I don't think I'm going to have to upgrade anytime soon, considering my rig can run games the consoles can't even dream of running".
[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Keyboard,mouse,case,OS,monitor (unless you want to use a tv),speakers,and DVD drive.Your forgetting all those.VandalvideoI can make one for 650 that can run crysis at medium high at 35 fps including all those ammenities. Excluding speakers. Headphones > speakers.But then the consolites will counter with the following. If a PS3 game gets released five years from now, it's guaranteed a PS3 will run it, and probably run it darn good. Can the same be said of a PC game released five years from now? What's to say a PC baseline requirement by then will be an octo-core CPU with 8GB of DDR3 or whatever comes next with a card compliant with DX12? To which I will reply, "And what, do you think the PCs just stand still? Crysis, the most technologically advanced game currently on the market and can't run on consoles, can be played on my already outdated rig. If thats the case, then I don't think I'm going to have to upgrade anytime soon, considering my rig can run games the consoles can't even dream of running".Did you read the article from Crytek about how they have the engine up and running on consoles at med/high settings?They've gotten it up to those settings and Crysis was released in Novemeber (they started after the release of Crysis). They said they might even attempt at adding Crysis sized levels into console games.
Did you read the article from Crytek about how they have the engine up and running on consoles at med/high settings?They've gotten it up to those settings and Crysis was released in Novemeber (they started after the release of Crysis). They said they might even attempt at adding Crysis sized levels into console games. killab2oo5Engine =/= game. Crysis itself, like Crytek is still saying, cannot be ran on consoles.
[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Did you read the article from Crytek about how they have the engine up and running on consoles at med/high settings?They've gotten it up to those settings and Crysis was released in Novemeber (they started after the release of Crysis). They said they might even attempt at adding Crysis sized levels into console games. VandalvideoEngine =/= game. Crysis itself, like Crytek is still saying, cannot be ran on consoles. :| They said they were attempting to add CRYSIS SIZED LEVELS into console games...and the graphics are currently and med/high compared to Crysis.
[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)WARxSnake
uhh, why?
my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...
Um actually no it probably wont. But the card he named isnt as good as a 8800gtx anyways nor is any 2gb of ram for 35$( what is he using DDR2? lmao) or a 30$ power supply.
They said they were attempting to add CRYSIS SIZED LEVELS into console games...and the graphics are currently and med/high compared to Crysis.killab2oo5Attempting, but not achieved. There are obvious limitations on RAM and other things that are not allowing Consoles to run games like Crysis. Thats referring to map size, ammount of detail, and dynamic nature of the environments. Just because the ENGINE is up and running doesn't mean a gamel ike Crysis will be along anytime soon. And while a game may reach Crysis's fidelity, it won't be anywhere near on par with Crysis if it can't match its level of detail and immersion. Even though Uncharted looks fantastic, its a static, linear environment. It doesn't matter how good a game looks if its just a corridor game.
[QUOTE="killab2oo5"] They said they were attempting to add CRYSIS SIZED LEVELS into console games...and the graphics are currently and med/high compared to Crysis.VandalvideoAttempting, but not achieved. There are obvious limitations on RAM and other things that are not allowing Consoles to run games like Crysis. Thats referring to map size, ammount of detail, and dynamic nature of the environments. Just because the ENGINE is up and running doesn't mean a gamel ike Crysis will be along anytime soon. And while a game may reach Crysis's fidelity, it won't be anywhere near on par with Crysis if it can't match its level of detail and immersion. Even though Uncharted looks fantastic, its a static, linear environment. It doesn't matter how good a game looks if its just a corridor game.:) Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Well,I'd love to stay but I have a class to attend.
Did you read the article from Crytek about how they have the engine up and running on consoles at med/high settings?They've gotten it up to those settings and Crysis was released in Novemeber (they started after the release of Crysis). They said they might even attempt at adding Crysis sized levels into console games. killab2oo5But with Crysis' level of detail? And what about the attention to physics, which is an actual gameplay device?
[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)Polaris_choice
uhh, why?
my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...
Um actually no it probably wont. But the card he named isnt as good as a 8800gtx anyways nor is any 2gb of ram for 35$( what is he using DDR2? lmao) or a 30$ power supply.
New egg has some nice paired DDR2 for 35$.
[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]Yes they will, wtf are you smoking? I built my PC a year ago and it will last me just as long as my PS3 will if I wish to stay with the same standards (but isn't that what I am doing with my PS3? living with set standards).I don't smoke. A 9600GT won't be able to play the newest games on PC 6 years from now. If it does, it's prolly with crap fps.[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)DaGamingGod
As for your 8800GTS rig outputting better gfx than the PS3 in 6 years, I doubt that. You never know but I really doubt it.
Lol wtf. If my card does better graphics than the PS3 now and the PS3 has set hardware that doesn't upgrade, then guess what buddy. It will still look better than the PS3 in 6 years. The PS3 will still have the same hardware in 6 years. You consolites think funny.The PS3 having "set" hardware is a plus for developers. That means that they can push the hardware to its max limits without having to worry about another "set" of hardware like with PC's. Developers won't optimize games for your 8800GTS 2 years from now. They'll have tons of other videocards to worry about let alone optimizing for only 1 card alone. Seems as if you're the one thinking funny. =)You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)DaGamingGod
wrong, it will run games better than ps3 could ever dream of running
2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?wildwild
that's normal pc memory is dirt cheap and for some reason consoles can't afford lots of it
>$250 or it's not cheaper.
yoshi_64
for a pc with wii power you are looking at the most buget system. ie slowest celeron 512mb ram onboard graphics and sound will do fine
Man, the thing that gets me most when people do these ultra cheap builds is they always cheap out on the power supply. As if a $30 power supply will even be somewhat reliable. Although, now that I think about it, comparing it to the price of a 360 is reasonable, since both are probably prone to fail around the same time :lol:
But when I do PC builds, I definitely don't cheap out on a PSU. You want solid, reliable power that doesn't fluctuate or all your components could fail at some point. It's more than just max wattage :o
MyopicCanadian
well since the x360 is so unreliable even that cheap p/s will run the pc better
wow...2GB of quality RAM for $35 in other news...pigs are flying-D3MO-
pc ram is cheap face it that consoles hardware is massive overpriced for whats in it
[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="wildwild"]2gb of memory for 35 dollars? umm where?horrowhip
2GB stick(not 2x1GB or 4x512mb but 2GB stick....) with no heat spreader.... at $31. that is a disaster waiting to happen....
Melt the RAM into your Mobo so after the RAM is dies(which it would) you can't even get it out of the slots so you have to buy a whole new mobo....
but the 360 is a much bigger disaster. sometimes dead out of the box or dies 3 months later then dies again in another 3 months and the again. cheap memory still works fine
[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]You have to remember that the PC parts that you listed won't last nearly as long as a console would. =)EmperorSupreme
uhh, why?
my 8800gtx is most probably going to outlast my ps3...
doubt it, PS3 will last a good five years. A gaming pc needs to be upgraded at least every two years. At the bare minimum you will need a new graphics card, usually a new mobo, a new processor, more ram and a bigger powersupply. You will also need to upgrade to Vista if you want DX10.
Some games are better on a console some are better on PC. I personally have a PC and PS3 and I feel like it's a good combo.
to run games as good as the ps3 a 8600gt and amd 4600x2 with 2gb ram is more than enoguh to last through 2011-12
those are some cheap parts for a pc...it wont last very long
Dante2710
and how many 360's have died? that pc will still be running in 2012 I dought many 360s will be
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