A lot of PS2 gamers yet to buy a current gen system

2 years into this gen and yet the PS2 is still the most played console. It's amazing how a last gen system can outdo every next gen system. Surely those 10's of millions of PS2 owners would have bought a 360 by now considering its an established platform, I wonder why those gamers haven't bought one yet ? oh I know THEY ARE WAITING FOR THE PS3 !

Fact, over 90% of 360 owners are original xbox owners. I mean Microsofts saviour Halo 3 failed to sky-rocket 360 sales as most of you guys said it would, the month Halo 3 was released 360 only saw an increase of 20,000 units. Like I predicted most people who wanted to play Halo 3 had already bought one beforehand. Microsoft are failing to convince PS2 owners like me to jump in to the 360 and you know why ? maybe because 360 has a horrendous failure rate and dominated by shooters.

2008 will be huge year and most PS2 gamers will jump the ship to PS3, I mean it's pretty obvious. Surely if those PS2 owners wanted to buy a 360 then they would have in the 2 years it was out especially now that 360 has got out all it's killer apps. Think about it most Xbox owners have bought a 360 and next year with the release of PS3's established franchises most PS2 owners will buy a PS3.

Like me most PS2 owners are binding their time to get a PS3, I'd expect most people will buy a PS3 with the release of MGS4, GT5, FF13 etc.

Most PS2 gamers will make the move to current gen in 08 and from the looks of it the PS3 will be the option :D

Remeber the PS2 had the success of the Wii. Everybody bought one for their kids as presents and stuff. Now those people are buying Wiis because they are cheap.

Though unlike the PS2, the Wii has crap games. It has SMG (which is selling like crap), MP3 (sold like crap), Zelda (sold decent), and a few others (all of which sold like crap).

People are buying the Wii as a present, or to replace their PS2 (because they have gotten older and a bit more mature and can actually buy their own console now) and they are realizing that the games are not that good. So the Wii sits and collects dust.

Check out the attachment rates and game sales and you will see what I mean. The Wii is a hot item, the games for the Wii aren't. People want a Wii for one game, Wii Sports.

There is alot of xbox owners liek myself who did not jump IN with the xbox 360 because of the horrible games thatw ere on the original xbox an also experiencing its terrible hardware choices that destroyed ur games

so there might be quite a few ps2 owners who jumped in with the 360 because im assumin there is lot of original xbox owners like me who wer not satisfied with the xperience to continue on to the 360

Remeber the PS2 had the success of the Wii. Everybody bought one for their kids as presents and stuff. Now those people are buying Wiis because they are cheap.

Though unlike the PS2, the Wii has crap games. It has SMG (which is selling like crap), MP3 (sold like crap), Zelda (sold decent), and a few others (all of which sold like crap).

People are buying the Wii as a present, or to replace their PS2 (because they have gotten older and a bit more mature and can actually buy their own console now) and they are realizing that the games are not that good. So the Wii sits and collects dust.

Check out the attachment rates and game sales and you will see what I mean. The Wii is a hot item, the games for the Wii aren't. People want a Wii for one game, Wii Sports.

Wasdie

Remeber the PS2 had the success of the Wii. Everybody bought one for their kids as presents and stuff. Now those people are buying Wiis because they are cheap.

Though unlike the PS2, the Wii has crap games. It has SMG (which is selling like crap), MP3 (sold like crap), Zelda (sold decent), and a few others (all of which sold like crap).

People are buying the Wii as a present, or to replace their PS2 (because they have gotten older and a bit more mature and can actually buy their own console now) and they are realizing that the games are not that good. So the Wii sits and collects dust.

Check out the attachment rates and game sales and you will see what I mean. The Wii is a hot item, the games for the Wii aren't. People want a Wii for one game, Wii Sports.

Wasdie

seriously what? mario is the number 2 selling game this month and has a higher first week sale than any other mario gamein the US and when does metroid ever sell well.

Though unlike the PS2, the Wii has crap games. It has SMG (which is selling like crap), MP3 (sold like crap), Zelda (sold decent), and a few others (all of which sold like crap).

Wasdie

SMG selling like crap? it sold over 1 million in november just in the US.

Remeber the PS2 had the success of the Wii. Everybody bought one for their kids as presents and stuff. Now those people are buying Wiis because they are cheap.

Though unlike the PS2, the Wii has crap games. It has SMG (which is selling like crap), MP3 (sold like crap), Zelda (sold decent), and a few others (all of which sold like crap).

People are buying the Wii as a present, or to replace their PS2 (because they have gotten older and a bit more mature and can actually buy their own console now) and they are realizing that the games are not that good. So the Wii sits and collects dust.

Check out the attachment rates and game sales and you will see what I mean. The Wii is a hot item, the games for the Wii aren't. People want a Wii for one game, Wii Sports.

Wasdie

Where the hell did this post come from? You sound very misinformed :?

Oh and Wii's attach rate is higher than the PS3s.

Can't blame them, to bad I sold my PS2 a while ago. Good thing next year Sony will be pumping out games to my interest on the PS3.

Here's a cookie for you because u speak the truth. (no sarcasm)

Like me, I play PS2 because there are enough games andI'm waiting for the PS3's killer aps and maybe another price drop. And who the f*ck needs a next gen console now? PS2 still owns all of them= FACT.

i don't know where you got your "facts" from, tc (altho i suspect), but every former ps2 owner i know has moved on to the 360 or wii or both...

but not any to the ps3...

it's important to remember that ps2's are continuously breaking down prompting many to buy old ps2 since the new ps3 has no backwards compatability...

but it IS fun watching the cows spin... :D

most ps3 fans would go to wii or ps3 not 360. cus they love japanese games and there are next to none on 360.deadmeat59

Wow, I didn't realize that over 300 games = next to none.

well that 90% statistic actually came from Michael Pachter in the latest bonus round :P. Look at it this way 360 fans were boasting that the 360 would sell a million units due to the release of Halo 3 but that didn't happen because like I said before most people who want Halo 3 had already bought a 360.

In the 2 years 360 has been out it hasn't convined anyone other then the previous Xbox owners to buy a 360, sure their might be a few but on the whole the 360's fanbase is Xbox owners from last gen.

Next year and onwards alot of PS2 owners will start buying the PS3, I mean it makes sense actually. Who would hold out 2 years into this gen if they weren't waiting for PS3's Killer apps ? the answer is no one.

I have been waiting to buy a PS3 and I can tell you that so have alot of other PS2 owners.

I would like you to point out a 360 owner that didn't own a PS2 (you could say the same about the Wii to an extent).

I had a PS2 and never owned an original xbox. But I'm a gamer; and thus moved on to the system with games: the 360.

The majority of PS2 owners that haven't jumped into the "nex-gen" have not done so because they're waiting for the Ps3's "killer" games. It's because they're casuals who refuse to pay more than $250-300 for a console and $60 for games. And I hate to say it, but that's not going to change anytime soon with the PS3. You're not going to pick-up a PS3 for $250 next year. Sony is already losing billions on the $399 unit.

Those same casuals are most likely going to buy a Wii when they're available, not a 360 or a PS3.

Ultimately, one of the saddest illustrations from the NPD stats was that Sony's unprecedented ad campaign and price cut could not help the PS3 sell more consoles in relationship to the 360 than what it was doing before the price-cut and advertising blitz. If ads and price cuts don't help, there's not much Sony can do as developers lose more confidence in supporting a console that will not be lucrative for them.

i don't know where you got your "facts" from, tc (altho i suspect), but every former ps2 owner i know has moved on to the 360 or wii or both...

but not any to the ps3...

it's important to remember that ps2's are continuously breaking down prompting many to buy old ps2 since the new ps3 has no backwards compatability...

but it IS fun watching the cows spin... :D

tango90101

Tango, this is even horrible for you.

Just because YOU don't know any PS2 owners that bought a PS3, doesn't mean a thing.

And then you proceed to say that all of the PS2 sales are from people rebuying broken PS2's instead of getting a PS3 and playing new games? :lol: And 360 sales wouldn't be from the same thing using the same logic? O....M.....G.

Fun watching the cows spin? You're a flippin' dradle.

most ps3 fans would go to wii or ps3 not 360. cus they love japanese games and there are next to none on 360.deadmeat59

Next to none, eh?

I seem to know of 2 games, both of which have sold over a million units on the 360. And ajet fighter game that was once an exclusive Playstation franchise selling well on the 360.

...should I go on?

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2 years into this gen and yet the PS2 is still the most played console. It's amazing how a last gen system can outdo every next gen system. Yellow_Rose

Actually it's only outdoing the PS3. The 360 and Wii are selling better ;)

THose buyers are waiting for the magic number.... $199. Who gets there first wins (assuming level playing field).RaveRabbid

Now do you understand why MS made standard DVD's the set media for the 360? They're not idiots all of the time (only when engineering consoles).

They can get their price point down much lower and much sooner than the PS3; and unlike Sony, not bleed from the ears for doing so.

Micro Center is already selling 360 Pro's for $229 this holiday season. $199 360's are not very far away.

well that 90% statistic actually came from Michael Pachter in the latest bonus round :P. Look at it this way 360 fans were boasting that the 360 would sell a million units due to the release of Halo 3 but that didn't happen because like I said before most people who want Halo 3 had already bought a 360.

In the 2 years 360 has been out it hasn't convined anyone other then the previous Xbox owners to buy a 360, sure their might be a few but on the whole the 360's fanbase is Xbox owners from last gen.

Next year and onwards alot of PS2 owners will start buying the PS3, I mean it makes sense actually. Who would hold out 2 years into this gen if they weren't waiting for PS3's Killer apps ? the answer is no one.

I have been waiting to buy a PS3 and I can tell you that so have alot of other PS2 owners.

Swift_Boss_A

Would this be the same Michael Pachter that said the PS3 will outsell the 360 in NA in July?

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2 years into this gen and yet the PS2 is still the most played console. It's amazing how a last gen system can outdo every next gen system. Dragon_Punch2

Actually it's only outdoing the PS3. The 360 and Wii are selling better ;)

Right now, kid. As in right now.

Once the large titles have a PS3 title out that will change. The biggest ones are GTA4, MSG4, GT5 and FF13. When all 3 are out we will be discussing something completely different on this board.mrxdemix

But how do we know all the people waiting for MGS4, GT5, and FFXIII don't already have a PS3?

You've failed to prove they are loyal Sony customers. Every gamer last gen had a PS2. I had a PS2. Hell, I have a PS3. Doesn't change the fact that, overwhelmingly, I've bought (and continue to buy) games for Xbox platforms. I go through games like rock stars go through smack. When Sony can't sell ME something, they've got a problem.

My point is, when people go buy a new system, are they really going to look for Sony, or are they looking for Madden and GTA, and maybe that Halo game they missed out on last gen?

I hate to break this to you, but most of those PS2s sold at a price under $200 and that's what it's going to take for a lost of people to switch to another system. I really don't see PS3 dropping down to even $250-$300 next year so while I'm sure there will be some migration over the year, it won't be massive.

As foryour theory on 360 owners, I think you're wrong. One of the things about PS2 and Xbox was that PS2 was out first, and in that more affordable range first and there were more games available for it. It made little sense for most gamers that had a PS2 to get an XBox for a few exclusive games. Now that's reversed. 360 was first, with the bigger library and smaller price. I know I can't be the only one that bought a 360 but never even thought about the original XBox.

Who would hold out 2 years into this gen if they weren't waiting for PS3's Killer apps ?Swift_Boss_A

The ones that still can't find any unsold wii's for sale?

I know I can't be the only one that bought a 360 but never even thought about the original XBox.

shadowcat2576

I have 8 good friends with 360's and only 3 of them had an original xbox. I have a 360 and never thought about the original xbox either. I was Sony all the way last gen because I wanted the most/best games.

It's funny how the PS3 is like the xbox/gamecube of this generation. Things switched so suddenly.

If you're a hardcore gamer, you don't wait 1-2 years to get a console. Most of the text-book "gamers" from the PS2 era have already moved onto the 360. That's why the software sales are so strong for the 360. It's because 360 owners are real gamers that spend hundreds and often thousands on games.

The casuals which make up most of the PS2 user base will move onto the cheaper Wii. But no casuals have gotten a chance to pick-up a Wii yet because true casuals are not freaks that line-up at 5 in the morning to get a video game system.

I sold my ps2 to get the PSP SLim cause its kinda like a portable ps2

It is good but it also has unused potental like the ps3

oh and i also have a ds by the way no consoles though(games too expensive)

If anything, PS2 owners will switch to the 360 - the 360 is the closest to what the PS2 was last-gen demographic-wise.Funkyhamster

Wha, wha, what??? PS2 reached all kinds of demographics. That's why it sold so well. And its the same demographics that Sony is aiming for with the PS3. At least when it comes to the games. Yes, I know the price was way out of range.

Sony's proven and will prove further with the PS3 that they can hit all age groups. Look at the current and upcoming titles. Flow, Uncharted, HS, Super-Rub-A-Dub, LittleBigPlanet, SuperStardust HD, Ratchet and Clank, etc. 360's lineup is geared more for one demographic.

If anything, PS2 owners will switch to the 360 - the 360 is the closest to what the PS2 was last-gen demographic-wise.Funkyhamster

The 360 is aimed at casuals, as well?

If anything, PS2 owners will switch to the 360 - the 360 is the closest to what the PS2 was last-gen demographic-wise.Funkyhamster

Fact, over 90% of 360 owners are original xbox owners.

Like me most PS2 owners are binding their time to get a PS3,

Swift_Boss_A

You have been a busy boy, Runny aroud serveying every single Xbox 360 and PS2 owner. O wait, you didn't. Your therorys = /= Fact. I would have to se how bad you failed sience.

A lack of japanese developer support is one of the major turn-offs I have as a PS2 owner going to the XB360. I'm just waiting for Sony to pick up sales in Japan, its homeground for delivering proper next-gen titles to the more "dedicated" gamers out there. The XB360, while having some great games, is getting mostly Western-games, and shooters. The PS3 seems to end up with the more varied library between original IPs, niche titles and a mix of japanese and western support. This is the key system seller for me.Brainhunter

Less than 17% of the 360 gaming library are shooters.

And the PS3 best game is a shooter.

Try again.