A Question to 360 owners

OK alot of 360 fans are saying that Halo 3 will have this HUGE effect on 360 sales,which there is no doubt that systems will sell because of this but and there is a BUT how many? I mean there are about 1,000,000 pre-orders(which is amazing) but thats only about 10% of all 360 owners as of right now, so if 90% of 360 owners aren't getting the game what makes you think there is going to be this huge outside rush? So far everyone I talk to say they got the 360 already for Halo 3. With this in mind how many consoles do you think this game will push?

...thoughts

OK alot of 360 fans are saying that Halo 3 will have this HUGE effect on 360 sales,which there is no doubt that systems will sell because of this but and there is a BUT how many? I mean there are about 1,000,000 pre-orders(which is amazing) but thats only about 10% of all 360 owners as of right now, so if 90% of 360 owners aren't getting the game what makes you think there is going to be this huge outside rush? So far everyone I talk to say they got the 360 already for Halo 3. With this in mind how many consoles do you think this game will push?

...thoughts

sparkypants

1 million for the U.S. More overall.

And to your question, how the hell do I know? :|

OK alot of 360 fans are saying that Halo 3 will have this HUGE effect on 360 sales,which there is no doubt that systems will sell because of this but and there is a BUT how many? I mean there are about 1,000,000 pre-orders(which is amazing) but thats only about 10% of all 360 owners as of right now, so if 90% of 360 owners aren't getting the game

sparkypants

What makes you think the other 90% won't get it? People just know not to reserve games because its not that serious. You can walk into a store and pick it up anytime.

my gamecrazy and gamestop are doing pre orders on the halo 360 and will get 50 of them and all of them are already pre ordered.

thats 100 people who bought a halo 3 for 360.

um its not 10% that was only one million in the USA which has about 6 million so that 1-6 ratio of people buying just in NA so thats pretty significant as to how many it will push um.... its just going to be too hard to tell i think September is going to be high for the 360 because of halo 3 i would expect 600k instead of the usual 300-400k that time of year but as time goes on the 360 with halo 3 + plus all the other games and the cheaper price should push 360 sales to like 17-18million by the end of the year....Tactis

This is true and I was kinddda just refering to NA anyway...

xDonRobx

What makes you think the other 90% won't get it? People just know not to reserve games because its not that serious. You can walk into a store and pick it up anytime.

I talking about the release, Will Halo3 have the same effect the 360 like 2 did for the Xbox

Offhand, I can think of at least6 people who do not have 360s that will buy one once Halo 3 comes out. They all want one already, but just haven't gotten around to picking one up. (These are adults like me, mind you, as well as busy professionals.)

But since we have regular System Link Halo games, (Halo 1 with mods, mostly) and we will probably move onto Halo 3, they will want to practice, play it, play it online, and then get good enough to try to dominate on gaming night. We just need 2 more HD TVs at my brother's house and we are set for Halo 3! (4 tvs, 4 360s, 8 players - fun fun!!).

Keep in mind that people buy consoles every year for Madden. Yes, an annual football game. If people will do that for a game that comes out once a year, imagine what they'll do for the "end" to one of the most popular videogame trilogies ever?SeanBond

While this is true there are more people interseted in Madden then Halo(Its kindda sad when you think about it). I mean My dad likes playing Madden but could care less about Halo :(

[QUOTE="SeanBond"]Keep in mind that people buy consoles every year for Madden. Yes, an annual football game. If people will do that for a game that comes out once a year, imagine what they'll do for the "end" to one of the most popular videogame trilogies ever?sparkypants

While this is true there are more people interseted in Madden then Halo(Its kindda sad when you think about it). I mean My dad likes playing Madden but could care less about Halo :(

So if your dad doesnt like it, Halo 3 will flop?....:lol:

[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

[QUOTE="SeanBond"]Keep in mind that people buy consoles every year for Madden. Yes, an annual football game. If people will do that for a game that comes out once a year, imagine what they'll do for the "end" to one of the most popular videogame trilogies ever?Art_424

While this is true there are more people interseted in Madden then Halo(Its kindda sad when you think about it). I mean My dad likes playing Madden but could care less about Halo :(

So if your dad doesnt like it, Halo 3 will flop?....:lol:

I never said that In fact the game flopping dosent even have anything to do with this thread(in fact Im hyping AAA and Im not even a lemming)Geeze fanboys:roll:

My point is "Will Halo 3 push alot of 360 sales, will it be enough?"

Its just a question of though because I dont think so yet there are alot of 360 fans claiming otherwise

[QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="sparkypants"]

[QUOTE="SeanBond"]Keep in mind that people buy consoles every year for Madden. Yes, an annual football game. If people will do that for a game that comes out once a year, imagine what they'll do for the "end" to one of the most popular videogame trilogies ever?sparkypants

While this is true there are more people interseted in Madden then Halo(Its kindda sad when you think about it). I mean My dad likes playing Madden but could care less about Halo :(

So if your dad doesnt like it, Halo 3 will flop?....:lol:

I never said that In fact the game flopping dosent even have anything to do with this thread(in fact Im hyping AAA and Im not even a lemming)Geeze fanboys:roll:

My point is "Will Halo 3 push alot of 360 sales, will it be enough?"

Its just a question of though because I dont think so yet there are alot of 360 fans claiming otherwise

Why do you care so much, geez, just wait till the darn game comes out.....fact is, it will push some consoles. Any guesses at this point is irrelevant.

OK alot of 360 fans are saying that Halo 3 will have this HUGE effect on 360 sales,which there is no doubt that systems will sell because of this but and there is a BUT how many? I mean there are about 1,000,000 pre-orders(which is amazing) but thats only about 10% of all 360 owners as of right now, so if 90% of 360 owners aren't getting the game what makes you think there is going to be this huge outside rush? So far everyone I talk to say they got the 360 already for Halo 3. With this in mind how many consoles do you think this game will push?

...thoughts

sparkypants

Your logic fails horribly when you realize that preorders are NOT the only way to get the game. I can and will go into more detail of why will Halo 3 push consoles, but I'll give you a quick rundown if you don't want to read:

Everyone said the same thing about Halo 2. It was in an even worse situation, as more people had the Xbox by then, and the product was much more mature (meaning spikes in sales were less likely), and pretty much everyone who played Halo had an Xbox by then. It had a massive number of preorders, but not too many compared to the number of Xboxes. And it made the xbox outsell the PS2 during November 2004.

Now, going into more detail. The 360 has Gears of War, but it didn't prove to be a Halo-level killer app. The 360 is yet to get all the IPs that made it sell at all, and Halo is the 600 pound gorilla in that list.

Go into XBL to play Halo 2. It's the second most played game out there, and you'll usually see a large number of xbox only players. You can go to bungie.net and check there the amount of people active without gamercards.

Then, you've got the Media Blitz. Halo is part of popular culture, despite it's sales. It's a well known property and known to be popular amongst casuals (fanboys keep ranting about this, too). This would be enough to insure a spike in console sales... and we're not counting the massive advertising as well as stuff like deals and promotions. This will ensure the amount of consoles sold.

This will compound to the recent price drop (which will trigger a nonlinear increase in sales, or at least should), and ramping up of 360 game releases that should raise consumer interest during the next month and a half.

All these will help spur 360 sales. How many consoles will it push? I'm guessing closer to Wii levels than to the actual level in September and maybe october, and after that, we won't know, since it'll be mixed with the holidays, and those should be a bigger factor than H3 by then.

[QUOTE="sparkypants"]

OK alot of 360 fans are saying that Halo 3 will have this HUGE effect on 360 sales,which there is no doubt that systems will sell because of this but and there is a BUT how many? I mean there are about 1,000,000 pre-orders(which is amazing) but thats only about 10% of all 360 owners as of right now, so if 90% of 360 owners aren't getting the game what makes you think there is going to be this huge outside rush? So far everyone I talk to say they got the 360 already for Halo 3. With this in mind how many consoles do you think this game will push?

...thoughts

Grive

Your logic fails horribly when you realize that preorders are NOT the only way to get the game. I can and will go into more detail of why will Halo 3 push consoles, but I'll give you a quick rundown if you don't want to read:

Everyone said the same thing about Halo 2. It was in an even worse situation, as more people had the Xbox by then, and the product was much more mature (meaning spikes in sales were less likely), and pretty much everyone who played Halo had an Xbox by then. It had a massive number of preorders, but not too many compared to the number of Xboxes. And it made the xbox outsell the PS2 during November 2004.

Now, going into more detail. The 360 has Gears of War, but it didn't prove to be a Halo-level killer app. The 360 is yet to get all the IPs that made it sell at all, and Halo is the 600 pound gorilla in that list.

Go into XBL to play Halo 2. It's the second most played game out there, and you'll usually see a large number of xbox only players. You can go to bungie.net and check there the amount of people active without gamercards.

Then, you've got the Media Blitz. Halo is part of popular culture, despite it's sales. It's a well known property and known to be popular amongst casuals (fanboys keep ranting about this, too). This would be enough to insure a spike in console sales... and we're not counting the massive advertising as well as stuff like deals and promotions. This will ensure the amount of consoles sold.

This will compound to the recent price drop (which will trigger a nonlinear increase in sales, or at least should), and ramping up of 360 game releases that should raise consumer interest during the next month and a half.

All these will help spur 360 sales. How many consoles will it push? I'm guessing closer to Wii levels than to the actual level in September and maybe october, and after that, we won't know, since it'll be mixed with the holidays, and those should be a bigger factor than H3 by then.

Best answer yet :D

But here is a question despite all the advertising and such(Halo Mt. Dew FTW) alot of casual are all ready on board with the Wii(even though Im not entirly thrilled with it...thats for another thread though) Do you reallly think the casuals will swich? I mean I know pre-orders dont equal total sales but Im talking this holiday season. I mean there are alot of crazy cool games coming out this holiday season(for all systems)more so then when Halo 2 came out. Do you think 3 will have a huge effect in sales or will the Wii or even the PS3's line up over shadow it?

[QUOTE="ginglejangle"]

my gamecrazy and gamestop are doing pre orders on the halo 360 and will get 50 of them and all of them are already pre ordered.

thats 100 people who bought a halo 3 for 360.

farrell2k

That is such BS. I can't stand eb's preorder lies. "Oh, we're onloy getting like 7 copies, so you'd better preorder so I can meet my quota." They're going to get 100 or more copies of any huge title.

idoubt their getting more then 50 halo 360's.

Best answer yet :D

But here is a question despite all the advertising and such(Halo Mt. Dew FTW) alot of casual are all ready on board with the Wii(even though Im not entirly thrilled with it...thats for another thread though) Do you reallly think the casuals will swich? I mean I know pre-orders dont equal total sales but Im talking this holiday season. I mean there are alot of crazy cool games coming out this holiday season(for all systems)more so then when Halo 2 came out. Do you think 3 will have a huge effect in sales or will the Wii or even the PS3's line up over shadow it?

sparkypants

I don't think too many casuals will "switch" as you put it. I think it will attract the casuals who haven't gone into the next gen. The people who keep purchasing the PS2 version of Madden, as well as those who have lost interest in gaming or simply have gotten out of touch. There are literally millions of these. In a sense, it will help to expand the next-gen market, not feed from it.

Of course, by expanding, I don't think it'll go to Wii-levels or comparing it to the Wii's strategy, just saying that it will draw a lot of people who aren't next-gen customers or prospects.