A reason why XBL is more active than PSN

Is because when you pay for time you feel obliged to make the most of that time. that's how i felt when i had XBL, i felt that if i didn't use it I was throwing my money away. It is a better overall service but there was nothing that made core gaming any better than PSN.

I doubt xbox live is more active, psn is free so you should expect alot people on it

Actually your wrong.

Wii has more people online.It has 0 downtimes and it never gets hacked and its free!Same with DS

how do you determine which is more active? and how big is the difference between both ?

No, that's one of the more ridiculous reasons I've heard.

Nobody's trying to "justify their purchase" so please don't try that inane ShadowMooses carry-on.

tc...

Actually your wrong.

Wii has more people online.It has 0 downtimes and it never gets hacked and its free!Same with DS

PlazmaClone

what's with the bad grammar lately?

tc...

PlazmaClone

The 360 sells a ton more software, so I guess it's because more people are playing games in comparison to the PS3?

I have a feeling that this is not the case. More people use Live, likely, for the following reasons: 1. The 360 came out first, establishing a recognizable brand name earlier. 2. XBL offers more party/friend features (which is important for people who like to play online). 3. XBL is entirely unified, making accessing it easier and more intuitive (great for casual players). 4. XBL has much less problems with service interruptions, and when they occur, they are fixed within hours, rather than weeks (PSN probably lost a fair portion of it's userbase after the hacking). 5. Microsoft has integrated the service onto several other platforms, increasing potential userbase significantly. 6. Online game populations stay relatively strong for sometimes years after the game is released (Halo 3, a 2007 game still sees 2000-3000 people during peak hours). Many PSN games, even online-centric ones, die within weeks or months of launch. People pay for Live because they feel the service is worth the price of admission, even when they know Microsoft could easily make it work on ad revenue alone. inb4 cow butthurtZeviander

what you posted is true... XBL is a good & reliable service..

However People(gamers) primarily pay for XBL cause otherwise they wouldnt be able to enjoy their games online...

[QUOTE="PlazmaClone"]

tc...

dvalo9

I find it hilarious that people feel like they have to "like both systems equally" around here to stay neutral. I have both systems and much prefer the Xbox 360 and have no problems making that clear. Even though I own two PS3s, cows will still think I am a lem. So what's the point? That no matter what you like, the minute you disagree with a fanboy they will automatically call you a fanboy. Ironic and very telling of how delusional fanboys really are.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]I have a feeling that this is not the case. More people use Live, likely, for the following reasons: 1. The 360 came out first, establishing a recognizable brand name earlier. 2. XBL offers more party/friend features (which is important for people who like to play online). 3. XBL is entirely unified, making accessing it easier and more intuitive (great for casual players). 4. XBL has much less problems with service interruptions, and when they occur, they are fixed within hours, rather than weeks (PSN probably lost a fair portion of it's userbase after the hacking). 5. Microsoft has integrated the service onto several other platforms, increasing potential userbase significantly. 6. Online game populations stay relatively strong for sometimes years after the game is released (Halo 3, a 2007 game still sees 2000-3000 people during peak hours). Many PSN games, even online-centric ones, die within weeks or months of launch. People pay for Live because they feel the service is worth the price of admission, even when they know Microsoft could easily make it work on ad revenue alone. inb4 cow butthurtMalta_1980

what you posted is true... XBL is a good & reliable service..

However People(gamers) primarily pay for XBL cause otherwise they wouldnt be able to enjoy their games online...

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]I have a feeling that this is not the case. More people use Live, likely, for the following reasons: 1. The 360 came out first, establishing a recognizable brand name earlier. 2. XBL offers more party/friend features (which is important for people who like to play online). 3. XBL is entirely unified, making accessing it easier and more intuitive (great for casual players). 4. XBL has much less problems with service interruptions, and when they occur, they are fixed within hours, rather than weeks (PSN probably lost a fair portion of it's userbase after the hacking). 5. Microsoft has integrated the service onto several other platforms, increasing potential userbase significantly. 6. Online game populations stay relatively strong for sometimes years after the game is released (Halo 3, a 2007 game still sees 2000-3000 people during peak hours). Many PSN games, even online-centric ones, die within weeks or months of launch. People pay for Live because they feel the service is worth the price of admission, even when they know Microsoft could easily make it work on ad revenue alone. inb4 cow butthurtWilliamRLBaker

what you posted is true... XBL is a good & reliable service..

However People(gamers) primarily pay for XBL cause otherwise they wouldnt be able to enjoy their games online...

Why would they sell their 360's ??

I wouldnt sell mine cause I like titles such as Forza, Geow & although not on the same level Halo... Selling my 360 means I cant enjoy these games...

I think because NA players are like fanatics ... they spend on games more than any other ppl, and since MS controls this region, it looks like they have higher sales and higher Live activity.

No, that's one of the more ridiculous reasons I've heard.

Nobody's trying to "justify their purchase" so please don't try that inane ShadowMooses carry-on.

balfe1990

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

No, that's one of the more ridiculous reasons I've heard.

Nobody's trying to "justify their purchase" so please don't try that inane ShadowMooses carry-on.

kuraimen

You cows must be piss poor, I am sorry. You are talking 17 cents a day in cost. If you think people to need to justify that than you are just sad. Why the hell do you care so much anyway? Maybe it's YOU trying to justify the fact you can't afford Xbox Live.

The 360 sells a ton more software, so I guess it's because more people are playing games in comparison to the PS3?

Ly_the_Fairy

You know that fits into his argument as well right?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="balfe1990"]

No, that's one of the more ridiculous reasons I've heard.

Nobody's trying to "justify their purchase" so please don't try that inane ShadowMooses carry-on.

brennanhuff

You cows must be piss poor, I am sorry. You are talking 17 cents a day in cost. If you think people to need to justify that than you are just sad. Why the hell do you care so much anyway? Maybe it's YOU trying to justify the fact you can't afford Xbox Live.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

The 360 sells a ton more software, so I guess it's because more people are playing games in comparison to the PS3?

GD1551

You know that fits into his argument as well right?

So his argument is 360 owners play games while PS3 owners watch movies?

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Ridiculous? This is one of the most known psychological phenomenons. Are you saying lems are the only ones in the world inmune to it? lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization http://blog.wblakegray.com/2010/11/why-more-expensive-wines-taste-better.htmlkuraimen

You cows must be piss poor, I am sorry. You are talking 17 cents a day in cost. If you think people to need to justify that than you are just sad. Why the hell do you care so much anyway? Maybe it's YOU trying to justify the fact you can't afford Xbox Live.

WHY DO YOU CARE? YOU AREN'T PAYING FOR IT!

I know why, lol. You can't afford it and you are nervous that the success of Xbox Live will make Sony charge for online next generation. So in some meaningless attempt to change industry trends you go around spouting out sh#t to anyone willing to listen.

Don't get me wrong, I am not making fun of anyone that can't afford 17 cents a day. That is not a laughing matter. But because of your financial situation and insecurities doesn't make Xbox Live a "rip off".

I think the fact that people rather pay for XBL than play it free on PSN with the risk of getting hacked and having their credit cards stolen just shows which service is better.

I think the fact that people rather pay for XBL than play it free on PSN with the risk of getting hacked and having their credit cards stolen just shows which service is better.

JohnnyCageMK

It's not just that. Sony knows their fanbase. Listen to every cow around here. They just aren't willing to pay for it.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

The 360 sells a ton more software, so I guess it's because more people are playing games in comparison to the PS3?

JohnnyCageMK

You know that fits into his argument as well right?

So his argument is 360 owners play games while PS3 owners watch movies?

No, I'd imagine if you were compelled to use a service because you paid for it, if you had a choice you would buy games for the console that has the service..

WHY DO YOU CARE? YOU AREN'T PAYING FOR IT!brennanhuff

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

You know that fits into his argument as well right?

GD1551

So his argument is 360 owners play games while PS3 owners watch movies?

No, I'd imagine if you were compelled to use a service because you paid for it, if you had a choice you would buy games for the console that has the service..

The most popular XBL games are CoD, Halo, and Minecraft. 1 is lead developed with early DLC for 360, 1 is exclusive, and 1 is 360/PC exclusive. Games like Skyrim and Mass Effect selling more on 360 have nothing to do with XBL.

[QUOTE="PlazmaClone"]

Actually your wrong.

Wii has more people online.It has 0 downtimes and it never gets hacked and its free!Same with DS

Michael0134567

Is because when you pay for time you feel obliged to make the most of that time. that's how i felt when i had XBL, i felt that if i didn't use it I was throwing my money away. It is a better overall service but there was nothing that made core gaming any better than PSN.

dvalo9

[QUOTE="brennanhuff"]WHY DO YOU CARE? YOU AREN'T PAYING FOR IT!

I know why, lol. You can't afford it and you are nervous that the success of Xbox Live will make Sony charge for online next generation. So in some meaningless attempt to change industry trends you go around spouting out sh#t to anyone willing to listen.

Don't get me wrong, I am not making fun of anyone that can't afford 17 cents a day. That is not a laughing matter. But because of your financial situation and insecurities doesn't make Xbox Live a "rip off".

kuraimen

You are sad. Yes, use pictures explaining why you care so much about something that you don't pay for it. Please. The first picture will be it's a rip off and the second explaining why you care since you don't pay for it is what exactly?

I realize I already hit the real reason right on the head, it's ok. Don't be ashamed or embarrassed. Just stop with your nonsense and I am sure Sony will continue to be the perfect company.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="brennanhuff"]WHY DO YOU CARE? YOU AREN'T PAYING FOR IT!

I know why, lol. You can't afford it and you are nervous that the success of Xbox Live will make Sony charge for online next generation. So in some meaningless attempt to change industry trends you go around spouting out sh#t to anyone willing to listen.

Don't get me wrong, I am not making fun of anyone that can't afford 17 cents a day. That is not a laughing matter. But because of your financial situation and insecurities doesn't make Xbox Live a "rip off".

brennanhuff

You are sad. Yes, use pictures explaining why you care so much about something that you don't pay for it. Please. The first picture will be it's a rip off and the second explaining why you care since you don't pay for it is what exactly?

I realize I already hit the real reason right on the head, it's ok. Don't be ashamed or embarrassed. Just stop with your nonsense and I am sure Sony will continue to be the perfect company.

[QUOTE="brennanhuff"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Are you capable of reading or do I have to use pictures??kuraimen

You are sad. Yes, use pictures explaining why you care so much about something that you don't pay for it. Please. The first picture will be it's a rip off and the second explaining why you care since you don't pay for it is what exactly?

I realize I already hit the real reason right on the head, it's ok. Don't be ashamed or embarrassed. Just stop with your nonsense and I am sure Sony will continue to be the perfect company.

Typical cow maneuver. When owned resort to insults. lol. You cows are so pathetic it's no wonder you are viewed as the most obnoxious annoying group in the gaming community.

But yes, I will admit right now that my reading comprehension is piss poor and my education as well. Please explain again, not using any big words and very slow why you care about something you view as a rip off even though you don't pay for it. I would think by not paying for it would suffice yet you continue to trash talk it at every opportunity. It's interesting, you think it's a rip off and don't care about it yet you can't stop talking about it.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="brennanhuff"]

You are sad. Yes, use pictures explaining why you care so much about something that you don't pay for it. Please. The first picture will be it's a rip off and the second explaining why you care since you don't pay for it is what exactly?

I realize I already hit the real reason right on the head, it's ok. Don't be ashamed or embarrassed. Just stop with your nonsense and I am sure Sony will continue to be the perfect company.

brennanhuff

Typical cow maunever. When owned resort to insults. lol. You cows are so pathetic it's no wonder you are viewed as the most obniouxous annoying group in the gaming community.

[QUOTE="brennanhuff"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I guess you're good at denial but not so good at anything else including reading? I hope your parents didn't have to pay much for that level of education.kuraimen

Typical cow maunever. When owned resort to insults. lol. You cows are so pathetic it's no wonder you are viewed as the most obniouxous annoying group in the gaming community.

But yes, I will admit right now that my reading comprehension is piss poor and my education as well. Please explain again, not using any big words and very slow why you care about something you view as a rip off even though you don't pay for it. I would think by not paying for it would suffice yet you continue to trash talk it at every opportunity. It's interesting, you think it's a rip off and don't care about it yet you can't stop talking about it.

What am I denying? Please tell me. Am I denying that I am justifying spending 17 cents a day? Buddy, if I was worried about that I would have much bigger issues. In the real world where you have mortgage, insurance, student loans, food, clothing, gas, and many other expenses, the last thing I need to justify is that big $60 a year subscription fee. Also, you never showed me the picture like I asked. You leaving out my entire quotes is self ownage.

Just admit that you can't afford it and to try to make yourself feel better you trash talk it at every opportunity presented to you. And also admit that you are freakishly nervous that Sony will follow and charge you next generation for online which will diminish your chances of ever getting a console.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="brennanhuff"]

Typical cow maunever. When owned resort to insults. lol. You cows are so pathetic it's no wonder you are viewed as the most obniouxous annoying group in the gaming community.

But yes, I will admit right now that my reading comprehension is piss poor and my education as well. Please explain again, not using any big words and very slow why you care about something you view as a rip off even though you don't pay for it. I would think by not paying for it would suffice yet you continue to trash talk it at every opportunity. It's interesting, you think it's a rip off and don't care about it yet you can't stop talking about it.

brennanhuff

What am I denying? Please tell me. Am I denying that I am justifying spending 17 cents a day? Buddy, if I was worried about that I would have much bigger issues. In the real world where you have mortgage, insurance, student loans, food, clothing, gas, and many other expenses, the last thing I need to justify is that big $60 a year subscription fee. Also, you never showed me the picture like I asked. You leaving out my entire quotes is self ownage.

Just admit that you can't afford it and to try to make yourself feel better you trash talk it at every opportunity presented to you. And also admit that you are freakishly nervous that Sony will follow and charge you next generation for online which will diminish your chances of ever getting a console.

The most popular XBL games are CoD, Halo, and Minecraft. 1 is lead developed with early DLC for 360, 1 is exclusive, and 1 is 360/PC exclusive. Games like Skyrim and Mass Effect selling more on 360 have nothing to do with XBL.

JohnnyCageMK

I don't understand where you are going with this, I merely said that it fits into his point. If you are paying for XBL you would want to use it as much as you can obviously so if you had a CHOICE between multiplats you would go with the 360 version unless there's some glaring fault or you like trophies more.

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

The most popular XBL games are CoD, Halo, and Minecraft. 1 is lead developed with early DLC for 360, 1 is exclusive, and 1 is 360/PC exclusive. Games like Skyrim and Mass Effect selling more on 360 have nothing to do with XBL.

GD1551

I don't understand where you are going with this, I merely said that it fits into his point. If you are paying for XBL you would want to use it as much as you can obviously so if you had a CHOICE between multiplats you would go with the 360 version unless there's some glaring fault or you like trophies more.

You have no proof of that. Especially when single player games like Skyrim are so popular on 360. It was in the top 5 on the charts for awhile so that means people were signed into XBL but playing single player. It completely destroys TC's point.

Is because when you pay for time you feel obliged to make the most of that time. that's how i felt when i had XBL, i felt that if i didn't use it I was throwing my money away. It is a better overall service but there was nothing that made core gaming any better than PSN.

dvalo9

However People(gamers) primarily pay for XBL cause otherwise they wouldnt be able to enjoy their games online...Malta_1980