A very tough decision to make...

Okay by the end of this week, I could get either a PC or a Xbox 360.I like the Xbox360 because it has better gamesClick_Clock

Last I checked the PC has the most AA, AAA, and exclusives.

" GameSpot review system " tell me, those reviews you want to site - are they done using the Min Reg. for the PC game being reviewed ? yeah another one of you're flimsy arguments bites the dust as ALL 360 games will play as reviewed ! ) , SecretPolice

Umm, he's going to be buying a new PC. Of course their going to play as reviewed. Once again, your losing the context of this thread to soap box an issue which has absolutely nothing to do with this argument to try and strengthen your position.

(These are the TC's words "I could get either a PC or a Xbox 360" if price is no object then he would get both or you have an excuse for this too ! SecretPolice

He doesn't say anything about price. For all you know, it could be because he doesn't have enough time to play both systems, or that he sees no point in getting two systems that have similar libraries. In fact, he doesn't even say he will not get the other one eventually, he just says he's looking to choose a primary system.

There is no issue of price in the original post, YOU ARE ASSUMING there is an issue to strengthen your argument.

Not when using a 400.00 pc they are not ! )SecretPolice

WHOSE USING A $400 PC? WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING THIS POINT UP?

If you would read the OP then you might have picked up that he already has one - yikes !SecretPolice

So then you would have advised him to get a Wii if you thought you could save him money?

( In you're opinion which is okay; everyone has one but mine dissagrees with yours ! )SecretPolice

It's a fact your creating arguments.

The TC never said anything about price. Fact. You argued as though he was getting a $400 PC.

( Again he stated in the OP 360 OR PC - if not price then he gets both )SecretPolice

He. Never. Said. Anything. About. Price.

You know what? Fine. He didn't say anything about not wanting his system to blow up either, but I'm going to assume he did and thus discount the 360. See how stupid debating like that is?

( Umm - it seems you are guilty of just that not me IMHO )SecretPolice

How am I? Your bringing irrelevant things into the discussion. I've not brought in, say, PC's modding capabilities, it's superior online, it's massive backward capability. But hey, If I'm going to be tarred with the same brush, I might as well argue things that have nothing to do with this thread.

( Again in you're opinion and mine differs as I would say many things you have done in this thread make you look stupid IMHO )SecretPolice

Yes I was incredibly stupid for using evidence, objective figures and sitcking within the realms of the discussion. I should have brandished subjective opinions and assumed things about the TC he didn't say. Thanks for the feedback.

I'll agree to dissagree as this debate with you will lead nowhere as you are evangelizing you're system of choice and that's okay put I have no more time for you. Good DaySecretPolice

So basically you decided to accuse me of what I just said you were doing?

Okay by the end of this week, I could get either a PC or a Xbox 360. I like the Xbox360 because it has better games but the PC has better graphics. I already own a Nintendo Wii and its a great party console but playing any single player game on it sucks big time. Thus now I'm choosing between the PC or Xbox360 as my primary gaming nut.Click_Clock

So let me get this straight. Secret Police believes the 360 is better because its cheaper? Please correct me if I'm wrong.Blackbond

You mean you read all through the postings ? And you are left with the question you asked ?

I will not spend anymore time after this last post. sheesh !

The clear answer to you're question is; The 360 is better for gaming ATM then a equally priced ( 400.00 ) PC - You Disagree ?

My goodness that must have been flamebait right?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]So let me get this straight. Secret Police believes the 360 is better because its cheaper? Please correct me if I'm wrong.SecretPolice

You mean you read all through the postings ? And you are left with the question you asked ?

I will not spend anymore time after this last post. sheesh !

The clear answer to you're question is; The 360 is better for gaming ATM then a equally priced ( 400.00 ) PC - You Disagree ?

My goodness that must have been flamebait right?

Its obvious that I didn't read the whole thread as my post implyed. Your logic is outragous and completely flawed. The 360 is better ATM then an equally priced $400 PC. Um yes and that is because like a $400 PS3 a $400 Gaming PC does not exist. The PC has better games, more games, more AA, AAA, and yes exclusives. Get over it. Using the price arguement doesn't change the fact that the PC has better games.

Your lame argument is like me saying the PC has better below $60 games. Well of course it does because 360 games retail for wow $60 :roll:

You don't factor in pricing for good games. The PC has better games. The discussion is over.

And, the PC has an incredible Back catalogue of games.

And can be used for other things.

TXbox360HBO.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]So let me get this straight. Secret Police believes the 360 is better because its cheaper? Please correct me if I'm wrong.Blackbond

You mean you read all through the postings ? And you are left with the question you asked ?

I will not spend anymore time after this last post. sheesh !

The clear answer to you're question is; The 360 is better for gaming ATM then a equally priced ( 400.00 ) PC - You Disagree ?

My goodness that must have been flamebait right?

Its obvious that I didn't read the whole thread as my post implyed. Your logic is outragous and ocmpletely flawed. The 360 is better ATM then an equally priced $400 PC. Um yes and that is because like a $400 PS3 a $400 Gaming PC does not exist. The PC has better games, more games, more AA, AAA, and yes exclusives. Get over it. Using the price arguement doesn't change the fact that the PC has better games.

Your lame argument is like me saying the PC has better below $60 games. Well of course it does because 360 games retail for wow $60 :roll:

You don't factor in pricing for good games. The PC has better games. The discussion is over.

The OP asked which one ( not should I get both or- money is no object which one should I buy ) - his question implies; he needs to make a choice for gaming and since he need to make a choice that implies the cost is a factor or he would get both !

My answer is 360 !

Wow - so you would assume I dont know a $4000.00 PC would be the way to go if cost was not a factor - yeah right - flamebait as I originaly thought !

Yes, thank goodness this discussion is over - ( $400.00 ) 360 is a gaming God compared to a ( $400.00 ) PC !

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]So let me get this straight. Secret Police believes the 360 is better because its cheaper? Please correct me if I'm wrong.SecretPolice

You mean you read all through the postings ? And you are left with the question you asked ?

I will not spend anymore time after this last post. sheesh !

The clear answer to you're question is; The 360 is better for gaming ATM then a equally priced ( 400.00 ) PC - You Disagree ?

My goodness that must have been flamebait right?

Its obvious that I didn't read the whole thread as my post implyed. Your logic is outragous and ocmpletely flawed. The 360 is better ATM then an equally priced $400 PC. Um yes and that is because like a $400 PS3 a $400 Gaming PC does not exist. The PC has better games, more games, more AA, AAA, and yes exclusives. Get over it. Using the price arguement doesn't change the fact that the PC has better games.

Your lame argument is like me saying the PC has better below $60 games. Well of course it does because 360 games retail for wow $60 :roll:

You don't factor in pricing for good games. The PC has better games. The discussion is over.

The OP asked which one ( not should I get both or- money is no object which one should I buy ) - his question implies; he needs to make a choice for gaming and since he need to make a choice that implies the cost is a factor or he would get both !

My answer is 360 !

Wow - so you would assume I dont know a $4000.00 PC would be the way to go if cost was not a factor - yeah right - flamebait as I originaly thought !

Yes, thank goodness this discussion is over - ( $400.00 ) 360 is a gaming God compared to a ( $400.00 ) PC !

Heh I come off foolish, man that's a second lol. I replyed to your post not the OP's stop changing your stance after every post. You say a $400 360 is god compared to a $400 PC. Yes you are right like I said above. That's because like a $400 PS3 and $400 gaming PC doesn't exist. PC still has the best games. All you did was reiterate your previous point there wasn't any need to say it again.

What don't you understand that PC has more AA, AAA, and exclusives then the 360? He said money is no option because some people (like yourself) would claim "Why buy a PC when I can buy a 360 for $400" That's why he put it in there. Bottom line you only get one choice but within that one choice money is no option. So in the end its not even a choice. The PC is clearly the better option.

Get a PC dude. Bioshock, Unreal Tourmanet, Mass Effect, Halo, and Gears of War are all better on the PC. You get better graphics, more gameplay, mods, and dont have to pay for Xbox Live.Carmilla31

Bioshock is always being played on the 360 just look at e3., and it looks very good on the 360, and i didnt know mass effect came to the pc already it isnt even out on the 360.

get a 360 because all the pc games come to the 360 and you can play them just aswellon the360 without needing 700-1000 dollars to play them, andimo the 360 has better games imo ,the pc has way to many hack and slash gungeon crawling and rts games.xjet039

PC games come to 360? Don't you mean 360 games come to PC like Gears of War? You cannot play them as well stop kidding yourself. Starcraft II and Crysis anyone? Oh and don't forget that PC has the most AA, AAA, and exclusives.

[QUOTE="xjet039"]get a 360 because all the pc games come to the 360 and you can play them just aswellon the360 without needing 700-1000 dollars to play them, andimo the 360 has better games imo ,the pc has way to many hack and slash gungeon crawling and rts games.Blackbond

PC games come to 360? Don't you mean 360 games come to PC like Gears of War? You cannot play them as well stop kidding yourself. Starcraft II and Crysis anyone? Oh and don't forget that PC has the most AA, AAA, and exclusives.

Face the fact - 360 is the ultimate game machine; pound for pound and dollar for dollar ! No if's and's or Butt's LOL.

PC has the most AAA/AA b/c it goes back generations !

Too much for you to comprehend is it - yeah I guess it is - now play some of those 360 games going to the PC with a 400.00 PC - yeah go ahead - sheesh - get some new material !

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="xjet039"]get a 360 because all the pc games come to the 360 and you can play them just aswellon the360 without needing 700-1000 dollars to play them, andimo the 360 has better games imo ,the pc has way to many hack and slash gungeon crawling and rts games.SecretPolice

PC games come to 360? Don't you mean 360 games come to PC like Gears of War? You cannot play them as well stop kidding yourself. Starcraft II and Crysis anyone? Oh and don't forget that PC has the most AA, AAA, and exclusives.

Face the fact - 360 is the ultimate game machine; pound for pound and dollar for dollar ! No if's and's or Butt's LOL.

PC has the most AAA/AA b/c it goes back generations !

Too much for you to comprehend is it - yeah I guess it is - now play some of those 360 games going to the PC with a 400.00 PC - yeah go ahead - sheesh - get some new material !

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="xjet039"]get a 360 because all the pc games come to the 360 and you can play them just aswellon the360 without needing 700-1000 dollars to play them, andimo the 360 has better games imo ,the pc has way to many hack and slash gungeon crawling and rts games.SecretPolice

PC games come to 360? Don't you mean 360 games come to PC like Gears of War? You cannot play them as well stop kidding yourself. Starcraft II and Crysis anyone? Oh and don't forget that PC has the most AA, AAA, and exclusives.

Face the fact - 360 is the ultimate game machine; pound for pound and dollar for dollar ! No if's and's or Butt's LOL.

PC has the most AAA/AA b/c it goes back generations !

Too much for you to comprehend is it - yeah I guess it is - now play some of those 360 games going to the PC with a 400.00 PC - yeah go ahead - sheesh - get some new material !

So basically you mean, what hermits were always saying --- x360 is a poor gamer's pc

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="xjet039"]get a 360 because all the pc games come to the 360 and you can play them just aswellon the360 without needing 700-1000 dollars to play them, andimo the 360 has better games imo ,the pc has way to many hack and slash gungeon crawling and rts games.naval

PC games come to 360? Don't you mean 360 games come to PC like Gears of War? You cannot play them as well stop kidding yourself. Starcraft II and Crysis anyone? Oh and don't forget that PC has the most AA, AAA, and exclusives.

Face the fact - 360 is the ultimate game machine; pound for pound and dollar for dollar ! No if's and's or Butt's LOL.

PC has the most AAA/AA b/c it goes back generations !

Too much for you to comprehend is it - yeah I guess it is - now play some of those 360 games going to the PC with a 400.00 PC - yeah go ahead - sheesh - get some new material !

So basically you mean, what hermits were always saying --- x360 is a poor gamer's pc

A poor mans $400.00 PC will not match the game machine the 360 is today !

Kinda but I word it a bit like this - A smart ( not poor ) man has a average Lap Top for spreadsheets & word, you know business or school stuff and can take it on the run and a 360 for gaming !

A poor mans $400.00 PC will not match the game machine the 360 is today !

SecretPolice

So we can safely advise the tc that he should get a 360 only if he doesn't want to spend around 800 bucks

Get a PC dude. Bioshock, Unreal Tourmanet, Mass Effect, Halo, and Gears of War are all better on the PC. You get better graphics, more gameplay, mods, and dont have to pay for Xbox Live.Carmilla31

Mass Effects not coming to PC, halowont come for ages, 360 gets other cames like GTA, burnout, Assasins Creed, PGR...

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Kinda but I word it a bit like this - A smart ( not poor ) man has a average Lap Top for spreadsheets & word, you know business or school stuff and can take it on the run and a 360 for gaming !

A poor mans $400.00 PC will not match the game machine the 360 is today !

naval

So we can safely advise the tc that he should get a 360 only if he doesn't want to spend around 800 bucks

Also - If he is not very computer savvy, you think he can get the most out of the game - I mean the hardest part about getting the game up & running the way it was intended to do; is removing the plastic wrap, and putting the DVD into the 360 - instanlty gaming and enjoying it just like the review you read said you would.

Can that be said about the 800.00 PC ? Now think this - he will wait for Gears, M.E. Halo 3 and others down the road to come to PC. Now if you bring Crysis into this and say he can get the full experience on the 800.00 PC then - well I wont say.

I will support the company giving me what I as a gamer want ( MS to date is doing that )and be damn the Nameplate.

Should some other company step up and do better - I will switch to them - now doesnt that sound good for gaming in general?

I will support the company giving me what I as a gamer wantSecretPolice

I like playing the 360 better cuz i can play it on a big tv (i know you can play ure pc on it too but thats sorta weird). Also if you have friends over you can play multiplayer on the 360. But thats just my preference.idontknow1110

[QUOTE="idontknow1110"]I like playing the 360 better cuz i can play it on a big tv (i know you can play ure pc on it too but thats sorta weird). Also if you have friends over you can play multiplayer on the 360. But thats just my preference.Jandurin

Nothing to do with size of PC or anything. Its just that in order to play with a keyboard and mouse you need like a flat surface to put it on so you cant really like sit on the couch or bed and play. I usually use my PC for surfing the web anyways and I don't really like surfing the web on a huge screen, I prefer it on a smaller monitor.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="idontknow1110"]I like playing the 360 better cuz i can play it on a big tv (i know you can play ure pc on it too but thats sorta weird). Also if you have friends over you can play multiplayer on the 360. But thats just my preference.idontknow1110

Nothing to do with size of PC or anything. Its just that in order to play with a keyboard and mouse you need like a flat surface to put it on so you cant really like sit on the couch or bed and play. I usually use my PC for surfing the web anyways and I don't really like surfing the web on a huge screen, I prefer it on a smaller monitor.

[QUOTE="idontknow1110"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="idontknow1110"]I like playing the 360 better cuz i can play it on a big tv (i know you can play ure pc on it too but thats sorta weird). Also if you have friends over you can play multiplayer on the 360. But thats just my preference.Jandurin

Nothing to do with size of PC or anything. Its just that in order to play with a keyboard and mouse you need like a flat surface to put it on so you cant really like sit on the couch or bed and play. I usually use my PC for surfing the web anyways and I don't really like surfing the web on a huge screen, I prefer it on a smaller monitor.

yea but i guess if you have two computers then the surfing the web issue doesn't apply

[QUOTE="xjet039"]get a 360 because all the pc games come to the 360 and you can play them just aswellon the360 without needing 700-1000 dollars to play them, andimo the 360 has better games imo ,the pc has way to many hack and slash gungeon crawling and rts games.[QUOTE="xjet039"]

360 better games? Hack and slash?!?!

Dude, GTFO!

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I will support the company giving me what I as a gamer wantJandurin

YES !

Now - go away - you troll too much !

Depends if you like sitting up to a monitor or lounging on the couch playing on your tv.CrimsonBlade360

:lol: Not everyone is looking 2 inches from a monitar, I have my PC hooked up to my big screen monitar (30 inches)and i'm lounging on my couch with my keyboard on my lap and my mouse at my side. Oh, I also have a surround sound system.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I will support the company giving me what I as a gamer wantSecretPolice

YES !

Now - go away - you troll too much !

.....wow, just go away and never come back.

[QUOTE="CrimsonBlade360"]Depends if you like sitting up to a monitor or lounging on the couch playing on your tv.JJ_1

:lol: Not everyone is looking 2 inches from a monitar, I have my PC hooked up to my big screen monitar (30 inches)and i'm lounging on my couch with my keyboard on my lap and my mouse at my side. Oh, I also have a surround sound system.

yea its fine I guess if youre on the internet but its hard to play games on the couch on a pc w/ a mouse and keyboard. Anyways most ppl don't hook their pc's up to their tv's but i guess that doesn't mean you shouldn't.

I would say yes but... do you think ( honestly, I dont know ) the 800.00 PC will play Gears PC or M.E. at the same level as a 360 does today.

Also - If he is not very computer savvy, you think he can get the most out of the game - I mean the hardest part about getting the game up & running the way it was intended to do; is removing the plastic wrap, and putting the DVD into the 360 - instanlty gaming and enjoying it just like the review you read said you would.

Can that be said about the 800.00 PC ? Now think this - he will wait for Gears, M.E. Halo 3 and others down the road to come to PC. Now if you bring Crysis into this and say he can get the full experience on the 800.00 PC then - well I wont say.

I will support the company giving me what I as a gamer want ( MS to date is doing that )and be damn the Nameplate.

Should some other company step up and do better - I will switch to them - now doesnt that sound good for gaming in general?

SecretPolice

Well I also don't know very well but few months down the line I think $800 pc will easily perform better than 360. Secondly there is no requirement for being tech savvy, ( i know as i am not, even though I have been been playing games since doom2 days).

Next point is games: if ypu see i already advised tc to buy the platform whoose games he preferred. I think with a 800 pc crysis will look better than any game on 360 ( even if it is not the full experience)

For me also, I game on what gives me the best experience and since I prefer kb/m + other things the pc offers ( mods etc) I play on pc only

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I will support the company giving me what I as a gamer wantJJ_1

YES !

Now - go away - you troll too much !

.....wow, just go away and never come back.

Are you his little buddy or what? If so - fine I guess but you dont know the half of it !

For you to come out after me that way - well lets say you should'nt have !

Wait wait - let me guess - A supporter of Nentendo no matter what they do - correct?

Wait wait - let me guess - A supporter of Nentendo no matter what they do - correct?SecretPolice

Everyone works for Nintendo, and they're all out to get you.

:lol:

Okay by the end of this week, I could get either a PC or a Xbox 360. I like the Xbox360 because it has better games but the PC has better graphics. I already own a Nintendo Wii and its a great party console but playing any single player game on it sucks big time. Thus now I'm choosing between the PC or Xbox360 as my primary gaming nut.Click_Clock

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I would say yes but... do you think ( honestly, I dont know ) the 800.00 PC will play Gears PC or M.E. at the same level as a 360 does today.

Also - If he is not very computer savvy, you think he can get the most out of the game - I mean the hardest part about getting the game up & running the way it was intended to do; is removing the plastic wrap, and putting the DVD into the 360 - instanlty gaming and enjoying it just like the review you read said you would.

Can that be said about the 800.00 PC ? Now think this - he will wait for Gears, M.E. Halo 3 and others down the road to come to PC. Now if you bring Crysis into this and say he can get the full experience on the 800.00 PC then - well I wont say.

I will support the company giving me what I as a gamer want ( MS to date is doing that )and be damn the Nameplate.

Should some other company step up and do better - I will switch to them - now doesnt that sound good for gaming in general?

naval

Well I also don't know very well but few months down the line I think $800 pc will easily perform better than 360. Secondly there is no requirement for being tech savvy, ( i know as i am not, even though I have been been playing games since doom2 days).

Next point is games: if ypu see i already advised tc to buy the platform whoose games he preferred. I think with a 800 pc crysis will look better than any game on 360 ( even if it is not the full experience)

For me also, I game on what gives me the best experience and since I prefer kb/m + other things the pc offers ( mods etc) I play on pc only

On the point about the " very soon 800.00 pc thing " is leaving out that the 360 will more then likely be 300.00 for a premium very soon so that is something to consider as well.

I would differ on you're contention that the 800.00 PC will run Crysis and look better then any 360 game - that I doubt to the Nth degree but you are entitled to that opinion and mine just differs.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Wait wait - let me guess - A supporter of Nentendo no matter what they do - correct?Jandurin

Everyone works for Nintendo, and they're all out to get you.

:lol:

I find you're reply to be an honest assessment of the way you see it and that is very cool with me !

On the point about the " very soon 800.00 pc thing " is leaving out that the 360 will more then likely be 300.00 for a premium very soon so that is something to consider as well.

I would differ on you're contention that the 800.00 PC will run Crysis and look better then any 360 game - that I doubt to the Nth degree but you are entitled to that opinion and mine just differs.

SecretPolice

Cool :)

Okay by the end of this week, I could get either a PC or a Xbox 360. I like the Xbox360 because it has better games but the PC has better graphics. I already own a Nintendo Wii and its a great party console but playing any single player game on it sucks big time. Thus now I'm choosing between the PC or Xbox360 as my primary gaming nut.Click_Clock

seeing as how a PC is isen't just a gaming platform, I would just suggest getting that. unless you started this thread just to argue about PC and 360 games, in which case i have nothing to say to you, or to the f00ls who took this seriously.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Wait wait - let me guess - A supporter of Nentendo no matter what they do - correct?SecretPolice

Everyone works for Nintendo, and they're all out to get you.

:lol:

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I find you're reply to be an honest assessment of the way you see it and that is very cool with me !

On the point about the " very soon 800.00 pc thing " is leaving out that the 360 will more then likely be 300.00 for a premium very soon so that is something to consider as well.

I would differ on you're contention that the 800.00 PC will run Crysis and look better then any 360 game - that I doubt to the Nth degree but you are entitled to that opinion and mine just differs.

naval

Cool :)

See ya around.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Wait wait - let me guess - A supporter of Nentendo no matter what they do - correct?Jandurin

Everyone works for Nintendo, and they're all out to get you.

:lol:

Yes - I would agree whole heartedly to that ! If I had not gone the 360 route yet; that's exactly what I would be doing.

[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I find you're reply to be an honest assessment of the way you see it and that is very cool with me !

On the point about the " very soon 800.00 pc thing " is leaving out that the 360 will more then likely be 300.00 for a premium very soon so that is something to consider as well.

I would differ on you're contention that the 800.00 PC will run Crysis and look better then any 360 game - that I doubt to the Nth degree but you are entitled to that opinion and mine just differs.

SecretPolice

Cool :)

See ya around.

Same here. At first I thought you were just a fanboy, but I was wrong and found you to be quite reasonable