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#1 Temporius
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DeathSmiles, after having been out for over a month, has finally been reviewed by Gamespot today. It got an 8.0, and having had the game since release, I agree. While this is a very good game, it is by no means for everyone. This is due to the game's arcade roots, which means that instead of letting you win on your first try, the game would kill you quickly if you screwed up. This game is not one of the quarter munchers of yore, but still demands a skilled player. The easiest difficulty setting (level 1) is between what most games call "normal" and "hard". Level 3 is a bit above the special extra hard difficulty that most games have. Level 999 (the difficulty level above 3) is just as large a jump as the numbers imply. The average time from start to game over for a newbie is less than 2 minutes on this difficulty. However, there is always a way to dodge the maelstrom of bullets, regardless of how difficult it may be.

This game is not for casual gamers or anyone looking for an easy game, especially not if you're looking for all the achievements. It does have easier difficulty levels so that newbies can play it, but not if you don't make an effort. If you're looking for a game that will grind you into paste and than tell you how terrible you are, the game's harder difficulty levels will be sufficient. This game has the hardest achivement in the US, and to date nobody has earned it outside of the easier Japanese version.

This being an arcade game(and by that I mean you had to put ¥100 into the machine every time you wanted to play it, not it being on a download service), the game is not at all about seeing the ending, and is instead mainly about getting a high score, most particularly getting the highest score among all the people you know. Think about it this way: almost every game today has some sort of multiplayer. Instead of copying everyone else, the multiplayer is a competition to see who can play the single player game the best. As such, there is no tactical triangle, where A beats B which beats C which beats A. The only impact on your game is you, allowing you to focus on improvement rather than finding a way to beat Player X. This game is centered around improving oneself.

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#2 CajunShooter
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360 exclusive? You mean the same game I have been playing on my PS3?
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#3 Homesrfan
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360 exclusive? You mean the same game I have been playing on my PS3?CajunShooter
And how would you do that?

Also, is this harder than Sin and Punishment: Star Successor on the highest difficulty. I haven't played either game, but I know that that was supposed to be really hard as well.

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#4 SolidTy
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TC, I highly doubt this game is the hardest game this ENTIRE generation of gaming on the highest difficulty. We would have to set up a battery of tests across all platforms this generation to even come close to figuring out which game is the "Hardest Game this Gen."

Obviously, it's a Shmup, so it's going to be dang hard, even on normal settings...I do love me my Shmups.

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#5 gamebreakerz__
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LOL'd at the review quote "noticable lag on highest difficulty setting".
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#6 shinrabanshou
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I was assuming that it wouldn't be reviewed since it was released over a month ago.

Good score for a relatively niche game.

And I highly doubt it's the hardest game of the gen.

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#7 YuriSH
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]360 exclusive? You mean the same game I have been playing on my PS3?Homesrfan

And how would you do that?

Also, is this harder than Sin and Punishment: Star Successor on the highest difficulty. I haven't played either game, but I know that that was supposed to be really hard as well.

maybe he is thinking of Death Spank.
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#8 yokofox33
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Even if it's not the hardest game this gen I'm still not even going close to the Hard setting. I wouldn't have the patience for it to be honest. I'll beat it on Normal (hopefully) and do future playthroughs on Normal as well.

But yeah, looking forward to playing Deathsmiles very soon.

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#9 Temporius
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LOL'd at the review quote "noticable lag on highest difficulty setting".gamebreakerz__
The Japanese version version had more slowdown, which made it easier. There are people who complain about the increased difficulty which makes comparing scores impossible.
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#10 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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No, silly, Flower was the hardest game this gen.

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#11 mystervj
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No, silly, Flower was the hardest game this gen.

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Hardest to die that is!
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#12 tagyhag
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Harder than Futari?
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#13 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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360 exclusive? You mean the same game I have been playing on my PS3?CajunShooter
DeathSmiles isn't on PS3. :?
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#14 Temporius
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Harder than Futari?tagyhag
You aren't supposed to know about that, it wasn't realeased in the US. But if you're going for the TLB, its debatable. DeathSmiles NA has fewer, faster bullets due to the lack of any slowdown. You also have a much longer game to go through without dying.
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#15 mgs_freak91
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Wait...so you're not going to say it's the hardest game this gen BUT it's the hardest game on the hardest setting! :O No Freaking Way! But in all seriousness - I would't place it as the hardest game this gen. And if it's an arcade style game - then what is the point in saying it's the hardest game [on the hardest setting]. I mean, not everyone could get to the end of every single arcade style game that isn't meant to have a proper ending. I don't see the point in this thread now. :|
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#16 mattisgod01
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I'd imagine fallout 3 or Oblivion would be hard on the highest setting. Especially Oblivion.

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#17 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Harder than Futari?Temporius
You aren't supposed to know about that, it wasn't realeased in the US. But if you're going for the TLB, its debatable. DeathSmiles NA has fewer, faster bullets due to the lack of any slowdown. You also have a much longer game to go through without dying.

Just because a game isn't released in the US doesn't mean I can't know about it. :P

DeathSmiles has a lack of any slowdown? Isn't that one of the complaints in the GS review?

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#18 Some-Mist
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Harder than Futari?tagyhag

this ^^. haven't played deathsmiles yet but I'd imagine that it isn't as difficult as futari.. and the touhou games. I've just recently tried 2 of them myself and have gotten wrecked so fast lol.

nonetheless, I'm excited to pick it up. still haven't gotten around to playing espgaluda 2 either!

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#19 Temporius
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[QUOTE="Temporius"] You aren't supposed to know about that, it wasn't realeased in the US. But if you're going for the TLB, its debatable. DeathSmiles NA has fewer, faster bullets due to the lack of any slowdown. You also have a much longer game to go through without dying.tagyhag

Just because a game isn't released in the US doesn't mean I can't know about it. :P

DeathSmiles has a lack of any slowdown? Isn't that one of the complaints in the GS review?

Someone at the shmups forum did some testing MBL mode: Average time to boss in stage B-1, level 3, Japanese version: 2:16 Average time to boss in stage B-1, level 3, US version: 1:31 Also:
We wanted to fix some unintended slowdown in the original, which compromised the level of difficulty in those sections. They upgraded the production environment of the graphics engine, so the U.S. version handles the graphic assets better. They're now working as originally intended, so things will be more difficult.CAVE

Even arcade mode has had slowdown removed. There are quite a few people who are NOT happy with the removal of slowdown.

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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]360 exclusive? You mean the same game I have been playing on my PS3?Homesrfan

And how would you do that?

Also, is this harder than Sin and Punishment: Star Successor on the highest difficulty. I haven't played either game, but I know that that was supposed to be really hard as well.

S&P2 is harder IMO.

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#21 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Temporius"]

Just because a game isn't released in the US doesn't mean I can't know about it. :P

DeathSmiles has a lack of any slowdown? Isn't that one of the complaints in the GS review?

Temporius

Someone at the shmups forum did some testing MBL mode: Average time to boss in stage B-1, level 3, Japanese version: 2:16 Average time to boss in stage B-1, level 3, US version: 1:31 Also:
We wanted to fix some unintended slowdown in the original, which compromised the level of difficulty in those sections. They upgraded the production environment of the graphics engine, so the U.S. version handles the graphic assets better. They're now working as originally intended, so things will be more difficult.CAVE

Even arcade mode has had slowdown removed. There are quite a few people who are NOT happy with the removal of slowdown.

So why did Nathan Meunier comment on the lag of the game at higher difficulty settings? :?

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#22 hexashadow13
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Doubt it's harder then Demon Soul.
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#23 ProjectNatalFan
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add another AAE to the great library of the 360.....

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#24 WhenCicadasCry
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Trauma Center: Under The Knife is the hardest game this gen. Honestly, who here has completed it?

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#26 Temporius
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So why did Nathan Meunier comment on the lag of the game at higher difficulty settings? :? tagyhag
After playing a few runs looking for slowdown, there is some that I could find. Bavaria, the volcano stage boss, has two patterns with slowdown. There is also some slowdown when fighting the twin wyrms, the gorge stage boss. I couldn't really find anything else, even on level 999. The Japanese version basically ran at half speed on level 999, and had a LOT more slowdown on level 3. Compare The Japanese castle, and the US version of that same stage, and notice just how much slower the JP version is.

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#27 iBear-
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TC, I highly doubt this game is the hardest game this ENTIRE generation of gaming on the highest difficulty. We would have to set up a battery of tests across all platforms this generation to even come close to figuring out which game is the "Hardest Game this Gen."

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#28 argetlam00
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I'm not even going to read your post. I know your wrong. Demon's Souls. All I gotta say and its /thread.

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#29 felipebo
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Trauma Center: Under The Knife is the hardest game this gen. Honestly, who here has completed it?

WhenCicadasCry

If you mean the Wii one, then I have.

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#30 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Trauma Center: Under The Knife is the hardest game this gen. Honestly, who here has completed it?

felipebo

If you mean the Wii one, then I have.

DS version.

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#31 Zerocrossings
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Looks great.

I just looked up some videos, the music is kickass.

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#32 nintendoman562
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[QUOTE="felipebo"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Trauma Center: Under The Knife is the hardest game this gen. Honestly, who here has completed it?

WhenCicadasCry

If you mean the Wii one, then I have.

DS version.

There's a difference being difficult and being broken. The controls were so bad in that game it would've been impossible to complete it.
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#33 AfterBurnerZ
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It's not the hardest. Mushihihimesama Futari 1.5 and EspGaluda II are harder. Heck, Ninja Gaiden 2 on Path Of The Master Ninja is harder.

Oh, and this video proves Futari 1.5 is harder.

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#34 Jfisch93
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A bullet hell game being hard? Alert the press!

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#35 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

If you mean the Wii one, then I have.

nintendoman562

DS version.

There's a difference being difficult and being broken. The controls were so bad in that game it would've been impossible to complete it.

I believe the end "boss" required a Stylus in each hand. That boss made me rage. :x

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#36 Some-Mist
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It's not the hardest. Mushihihimesama Futari 1.5 and EspGaluda II are harder. Heck, Ninja Gaiden 2 on Path Of The Master Ninja is harder.

Oh, and this video proves Futari 1.5 is harder.

AfterBurnerZ

that boss killed me at least 15 times LOL the only thing not hard about mushihimesama futari is that theres unlimited continues.

I'ma have to go get an arcade pad now and try to beat the game with no continues lol

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#37 Temporius
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I'm not even going to read your post. I know your wrong. Demon's Souls. All I gotta say and its /thread.

argetlam00
Level 999 disagrees. Advice to newbies: pick level 1 or 2, level 3 if you find the stage easy on level 2. DO NOT PICK LEVEL 999.
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#38 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Doubt it's harder then Demon Soul.hexashadow13
:lol:

Demons souls is no where near the hardest game this gen.

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#39 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

TC, I highly doubt this game is the hardest game this ENTIRE generation of gaming on the highest difficulty. We would have to set up a battery of tests across all platforms this generation to even come close to figuring out which game is the "Hardest Game this Gen."

iBear-

You must be tons of fun in real life

in order to determine if someone is actually really "tons" of fun, first we should establish weather that is short tons or long tons. or metric tonnes. :P

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#40 Temporius
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Looks great.

I just looked up some videos, the music is kickass.

Zerocrossings
Did i mention the Limited edition (which is $50) comes with a soundtrack and faceplate?
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#41 Sparky04
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Has anyone here beaten Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja? I'd say that's the hardest.

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#42 tagyhag
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Doubt it's harder then Demon Soul.hexashadow13
Demon's Souls isn't that difficult unless you just play mainstream games. Its difficulty is always overrated. :(

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#43 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Has anyone here beaten Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja? I'd say that's the hardest.

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I know of someone who did, I believe he said something along the lines of "Never ever doing that again".
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#44 Temporius
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Has anyone here beaten Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja? I'd say that's the hardest.

Sparky04
No, level 999 still outdoes that, especially if you're trying to unlock all the achievements. I doubt anyone will be able 100% the game for a long time, though we've already seen people clear the main game on the normal difficulty levels.
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#45 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="iBear-"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

TC, I highly doubt this game is the hardest game this ENTIRE generation of gaming on the highest difficulty. We would have to set up a battery of tests across all platforms this generation to even come close to figuring out which game is the "Hardest Game this Gen."

Phaze-Two

You must be tons of fun in real life

in order to determine if someone is actually really "tons" of fun, first we should establish weather that is short tons or long tons. or metric tonnes. :P

It's a highly complex process that I wouldn't be able to explain over the forums today...however, I am currently creating a website to explain the intracacies of how to measure fun by quantifiable units, and of course, how to measure the hardest games of this gen...yes, it's a twofer.

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#46 WiiMan21
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I believe Demon's Souls is.

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#47 jedikevin2
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Anyone know about the Bullet Hell series called "Touhou project". You want hard.... go try one of those.
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#48 DJ_Headshot
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I wanna be that guy is the hardest game ever you have to be a serious machoist to enjoy playing this game! I didn't think is was possible to beat it on impossible where you only get one life for the whole game but this guy did it somehow and of course he's asian :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqkcfYlsyGk&feature=related

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#49 jg4xchamp
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I've been getting my royal ass whipped in Sin and Punishment. So I full expect to get my ass whipped in Death smiles. It looks kind of fun though. I might get it.
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#50 jg4xchamp
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Has anyone here beaten Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja? I'd say that's the hardest.

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Yeah but that's like unfair hard. It's not like Ninja Gaiden Black where it just pummels you for being inferior to the game. 2 just pummels you because it's just poorly thought out :P