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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]
YAY!! Sheeps are back!!! BTW, check which console has QUALITY AAe's and AAAe's? ;)93soccer
huh?
'AAe' and 'AAAe' ratings are the perception of quality by the reviewer
so saying 'QualityAAe and AAAe' makes no sense
he means "quality" as in "games i would play" ;)
making all games on the wii trash, because he wouldnt tuch them, they are low quality AAA's
Not what I meant but feel free to just make up stuff. I realized after that it wasn't necessary to add quality instead should have used some other word. For example, how many of you would rather "play" EA sports active (a AAe) versus playing say Banjo-Kazooie on 360 (AAe)?Quotation marks, because Glitchspot is glitching;
Half-Way; ''that would be like removing the panda from your sig. a ninja is awesome, but not as awesome as a panda''
Removing the panda would be illogical, counting multiplats is logical. So no, it's not the same.
Why, when it doesn't have any real meaning?these threads never go well even if they are true people just dont like giving the wii credit i guess lol
Mario1331
[QUOTE="gaming25"]This argument is so dumb. The 360 has tons more AAs that cannot be played on the Wii which is the point of the exclusive debate in the first place.double_a73
Saying this mean Wiiware, VC, and Gamecube games count as well, soo will someone look these up?
That's a completely different argument; we only count retail games when we're comparing systems because other games are reviewed on different standards.Arguing with numbers so high is such a silly thing to do. I guess if you are a true System Warrior, then you would care.
Ultimately, if any console had an exclusive list of 10 games rated A or higher, and an overall library of 20 games rated A or higher, then something is wrong.
When you get to these kind of numbers, any console makes a sound purchase, and the only winner is the gamer. Overall library / exclusives, round and round and round we go. I get to play everything that I want to. Wee!
Isn't this thread similar to the king of console exclusives thread? Except this one seems to be failing? All I see in this thread is "Wii has better exclusives" followed by "360 has a better overall library" then it goes round and round and round :?Kenny789Yeah it is except the other thread turned into a Wii vs PS3 war and I Owned the TC hard.
He was spouting some garbage about the Wii having 30+ more AAE then the PS3 had. Then I told him that the Wii only had 22AAE to begin with so him saying that it had 30 MORE AAE then anyconsole was a blatant lie. The Wii has 10 more AAE then the PS3 but the PS3 has 3 more AAAE. Some people would say this balances out, I personally take the AAAE over the AAE any day and some people make pretend games and balatantly lie about the difference in the number of games...Like the TC did in that thread.
Just for reference on the difference between a AA game and a AAA game. lets look at Uncharted 1(8.0) and Uncharted 2(9.5). Uncharted 1 was great, fantastic graphics, great VA, characters, you name it, it was all great. Then there's Uncharted 2 They took EVERYTHING from 1 and made it better and added more of it. The game was longer and had A whole online co-op and competitive multiplayer added. The difference between AAe and AAAE is quite staggering when you stop and think about how much extra content, polish, etc goes into a game to get that extra A. This is why I would take 3 AAAE over 10 AAE any day.
This is a wii vs 360 thread, so that means both libraries are fair game in this topic, and in that I mean "complete" libraries. Why must you have all these special qualifiers and exceptions so that you can pit the wii's library against just a fraction of the 360's? Now with 360 vs ps3, the exclusives are the coin of the realm since both consoles handle multi-plat games equally for the most part with exceptions here and there. But with wii vs 360, it should be the complete game libraries between the two systems since there aren't many games that both share. Its pretty obvious why you don't want to pit the wii's library against the 360's library. So if we're going to have to endure all of these wii vs 360 threads, at least have the courage to pit both libraries against each other, "straight up" as Teddy KGB from Rounders would say.
Good post imo I think I concur imo ofc. I thought VP and PGR were boring though imo. And Shadow Complex is really just dlc.Damn! the only good 360 games on that list is Fable 2, Viva Pinata, PGR 4, and Shadow Complex. The only bad Wii games on that list is Super Monkey Ball and EA Active. Wii owns the 360 big time!!! Wii tha best MAN!!!
Sonicplys
[QUOTE="Half-Way"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]
huh?
'AAe' and 'AAAe' ratings are the perception of quality by the reviewer
so saying 'QualityAAe and AAAe' makes no sense
93soccer
he means "quality" as in "games i would play" ;)
making all games on the wii trash, because he wouldnt tuch them, they are low quality AAA's
Not what I meant but feel free to just make up stuff. I realized after that it wasn't necessary to add quality instead should have used some other word. For example, how many of you would rather "play" EA sports active (a AAe) versus playing say Banjo-Kazooie on 360 (AAe)?its obvious youre not getting it
since they are both considered to be of similar quality, what you are asking is simply based on opinion....
[QUOTE="gaming25"]This argument is so dumb. The 360 has tons more AAs that cannot be played on the Wii which is the point of the exclusive debate in the first place.double_a73
Saying this mean Wiiware, VC, and Gamecube games count as well, soo will someone look these up?
no. Because Gamecube games arent relevent to SW, or this gen.This is a wii vs 360 thread, so that means both libraries are fair game in this topic, and in that I mean "complete" libraries.
FastEddie2121
It's pretty obvious he's talking about exclusives.
[QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]
This is a wii vs 360 thread, so that means both libraries are fair game in this topic, and in that I mean "complete" libraries.
It's pretty obvious he's talking about exclusives.
sure, but its a pretty ridiculous argument to have.[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]
This is a wii vs 360 thread, so that means both libraries are fair game in this topic, and in that I mean "complete" libraries.
gaming25
It's pretty obvious he's talking about exclusives.
sure, but its a pretty........ argument to have.Sure, but that's what most of SW's arguments are. PS3 vs 360 exclusives. But for whatever reason, when the Wii gets involved the argument changes to include "overall library".
360
Saints Row
Banjo Kazooi Nuts & Bolts
Dead or Alive 4
Fable 2
Viva Pinata
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise
Project Gotham Racing 3
Project Gotham Racing 4
Kameo Elements of Power
Shadow ComplexWii
Monster Hunter Tri
Zack & Wiki
Tatsunoko vs Capcom
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption
Trauma Team
Trauma Center Second Opinion
Trauma Center New Blood
No More Heroes Desporate Struggle
Dead Space Extraction
Sin & Punishment Star Successor
Super Paper Mario
New Super Mario Bros
Punch Out!!!
The House of the Dead Overkill
Excitebots Trick Racing
A Boy and his Blob
Wii Sports Resort
Endless Oean Blue World
Little Kings Story
Boom Blox Bash Party
Blast Works Build Trade Destroy
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
EA Sports Active
Fried_Shrimp
omg is that robo gaisha in your display?
[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]
It's pretty obvious he's talking about exclusives.
sure, but its a pretty ridiculous argument to have.Sure, but that's what most of SW's arguments are. PS3 vs 360 exclusives. But for whatever reason, when the Wii gets involved the argument changes to include "overall library".
Because nearly all Multiplat games for the PS3/360 arent for the Wii.1) Check the AAAs
2) If a Wii game was reviewed at the same standards of quality as a 360 game, the reviews would be much lower. So I'm just saying, Wii games are only good for Wii games.
3) You listed EA Sports Active
ColdP1zza
Well that is actually partially true games that get AA would not get AA on the 360. The entire market is different games like Trauma Center and EA Sports Active would most likely not get AA on the 360 even if they were the exact same game ported to the 360. When reviewing Wii games people look for different things than when reviewing 360 games.
[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="gaming25"] sure, but its a pretty .......... argument to have.gaming25
Sure, but that's what most of SW's arguments are. PS3 vs 360 exclusives. But for whatever reason, when the Wii gets involved the argument changes to include "overall library".
Because nearly all Multiplat games for the PS3/360 arent for the Wii.That doesn't make them exclusive.
Because nearly all Multiplat games for the PS3/360 arent for the Wii.[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Sure, but that's what most of SW's arguments are. PS3 vs 360 exclusives. But for whatever reason, when the Wii gets involved the argument changes to include "overall library".
Silverbond
That doesn't make them exclusive.
To be honest, when making a purchasing decision, and you want to buy either a Wii or one of the HD consoles, you are going to look at the overall libraries for each, and then make your decision based on what amount of software you like. Its not flip flopping an argument, its using common sense. On system wars, exclusives matter for the silly metagame. In the real world, its what you can and cant play on the console that matters, and the Wii cannot play the vast majority of multiplatform software. Luckily, it makes up for this in other areas.[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="gaming25"] Because nearly all Multiplat games for the PS3/360 arent for the Wii.eveileb-ekam
That doesn't make them exclusive.
To be honest, when making a purchasing decision, and you want to buy either a Wii or one of the HD consoles, you are going to look at the overall libraries for each, and then make your decision based on what amount of software you like. Its not flip flopping an argument, its using common sense. On system wars, exclusives matter for the silly metagame. In the real world, its what you can and cant play on the console that matters, and the Wii cannot play the vast majority of multiplatform software. Luckily, it makes up for this in other areas.but thats not what happens in ps3 vs 360 debates... they usually only focuse on exclusives, which of course removes any 360/pc games from the comparison
To be honest, when making a purchasing decision, and you want to buy either a Wii or one of the HD consoles, you are going to look at the overall libraries for each, and then make your decision based on what amount of software you like. Its not flip flopping an argument, its using common sense. On system wars, exclusives matter for the silly metagame. In the real world, its what you can and cant play on the console that matters, and the Wii cannot play the vast majority of multiplatform software. Luckily, it makes up for this in other areas.[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]
That doesn't make them exclusive.
ogvampire
but thats not what happens in ps3 vs 360 debates... they usually only focuse on exclusives, which of course removes any 360/pc games from the comparison
That is an anomoly used for SW ownage rights, and is stupid, I agree. In the real world, if your looking for just an HD console, then it is exclusives that define the system, and ultimately inform your purchase.Right off the top of my head, I know you're missing Culdcept Saga and Scene It: Box Office Smash from your 360 list.
And personally, I'd take the 360's AAe's over the Wii's. Hell, I'd take Culdcept Saga over the entire Wii AAe list.
[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"] To be honest, when making a purchasing decision, and you want to buy either a Wii or one of the HD consoles, you are going to look at the overall libraries for each, and then make your decision based on what amount of software you like. Its not flip flopping an argument, its using common sense. On system wars, exclusives matter for the silly metagame. In the real world, its what you can and cant play on the console that matters, and the Wii cannot play the vast majority of multiplatform software. Luckily, it makes up for this in other areas.eveileb-ekam
but thats not what happens in ps3 vs 360 debates... they usually only focuse on exclusives, which of course removes any 360/pc games from the comparison
That is an anomoly used for SW ownage rights, and is stupid, I agree. In the real world, if your looking for just an HD console, then it is exclusives that define the system, and ultimately inform your purchase.if youre looking for an HD console, or any console for that matter, you look at what GAMES it has... not just exclusives
more than a few pc/360 games are of high quality... do you seriously not think of them when considering between a ps3 and 360?
Am i the only one who looks at the Wii games TC listed and thought, I wouldn't play any of those even if they where given to me for free?
That is an anomoly used for SW ownage rights, and is stupid, I agree. In the real world, if your looking for just an HD console, then it is exclusives that define the system, and ultimately inform your purchase.[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]
but thats not what happens in ps3 vs 360 debates... they usually only focuse on exclusives, which of course removes any 360/pc games from the comparison
ogvampire
if youre looking for an HD console, or any console for that matter, you look at what GAMES it has... not just exclusives
more than a few pc/360 games are of high quality... do you seriously not think of them when considering between a ps3 and 360?
It feels like you are picking an argument with me, and I am not sure why. Yes, I do consider 360 / PC games when considerring whether or not to buy an HD console. Like I said, you look at the overall libraries for each before making a purchasing decision. Essentially, what I am saying is, regardless of what platform you are deciding to choose, you look at all of the games available on it. However, it is exclusive games that often seal the deal when making that decision.Yes you are.Am i the only one who looks at the Wii games TC listed and thought, I wouldn't play any of those even if they where given to me for free?
mattisgod01
That list is better then the 360's AAAE list IMO (look what you have done to me SW! I'm reduced to pointing out whats an opinion and whats a statement! :cry: )
[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]Yes you are. That list is better then the 360's AAAE listAm i the only one who looks at the Wii games TC listed and thought, I wouldn't play any of those even if they where given to me for free?
toast_burner
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz...I have no idea what it is but it sounds just...just aweful.
Yes you are. That list is better then the 360's AAAE list[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]
Am i the only one who looks at the Wii games TC listed and thought, I wouldn't play any of those even if they where given to me for free?
mattisgod01
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz...I have no idea what it is but it sounds just...just aweful.
What about No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle, Sin & Punishment: Star Successor/ Successor of the Universe, Tatsunoku vs Capcom, and Monster Hunter Tri. Those games are great and appeal to hardcore gamers. Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz is a sequel to the Super Monkey Ball games on the GCN and PS2.Yes you are. That list is better then the 360's AAAE list[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]
Am i the only one who looks at the Wii games TC listed and thought, I wouldn't play any of those even if they where given to me for free?
mattisgod01
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz...I have no idea what it is but it sounds just...just aweful.
Havent played it but i like the other super money ball games (its an ok series) Little kings story is one of the best games this gen, the only games in that list that dont belong are EA active and wii sports resort[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"] That is an anomoly used for SW ownage rights, and is stupid, I agree. In the real world, if your looking for just an HD console, then it is exclusives that define the system, and ultimately inform your purchase.eveileb-ekam
if youre looking for an HD console, or any console for that matter, you look at what GAMES it has... not just exclusives
more than a few pc/360 games are of high quality... do you seriously not think of them when considering between a ps3 and 360?
It feels like you are picking an argument with me, and I am not sure why. Yes, I do consider 360 / PC games when considerring whether or not to buy an HD console. Like I said, you look at the overall libraries for each before making a purchasing decision. Essentially, what I am saying is, regardless of what platform you are deciding to choose, you look at all of the games available on it. However, it is exclusive games that often seal the deal when making that decision.exactly... so in the case of the HD Consoles, a pc/360 game is not on the ps3, so it might as well be considered an exclusive
well, saying 'exclusive' kinda confuses things... so lets just say the pc/360 games get put into consideration
also, im not picking an argument. this is a discussion, not an argument... just trying to get something straight here
[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]
[QUOTE="toast_burner"] Yes you are. That list is better then the 360's AAAE listNintendo_Ownes7
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz...I have no idea what it is but it sounds just...just aweful.
What about No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle, Sin & Punishment: Star Successor/ Successor of the Universe, Tatsunoku vs Capcom, and Monster Hunter Tri. Those games are great and appeal to hardcore gamers. Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz is a sequel to the Super Monkey Ball games on the GCN and PS2.I might play No More Heroes and Monster Hunter if i was given them for free but i wouldn't buy them. I still have 12 360 games on my list i'd buy before those.
[QUOTE="gaming25"]This argument is so dumb. The 360 has tons more AAs that cannot be played on the Wii which is the point of the exclusive debate in the first place.double_a73
Saying this mean Wiiware, VC, and Gamecube games count as well, soo will someone look these up?
It really doesn't. These are not wii games. People did not buy a new gen console just to play games they've played before a long time ago.
[QUOTE="double_a73"]
[QUOTE="gaming25"]This argument is so dumb. The 360 has tons more AAs that cannot be played on the Wii which is the point of the exclusive debate in the first place.Chemical_Viking
Saying this mean Wiiware, VC, and Gamecube games count as well, soo will someone look these up?
It really doesn't. These are not wii games. People did not buy a new gen console just to play games they've played before a long time ago.
i didnt know wii ware was old games...
[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]
[QUOTE="double_a73"]
Saying this mean Wiiware, VC, and Gamecube games count as well, soo will someone look these up?
Mario1331
It really doesn't. These are not wii games. People did not buy a new gen console just to play games they've played before a long time ago.
i didnt know wii ware was old games...
But the others are are they not? I mean its not difficult. Look at the entire library of made for wii games and the entire library of 360 games and even without the obvious discrepancies between reviews (they're obviously on a different scale, some of the wii games if released on other consoles wouldn't even get noticed let alone 8/10) the 360 is far superior.
You don't get to include 15 year old mega drive games to bolster your library.
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