About Mass Effect length.....

You do have a pointrwbojorquez

That will be quickly dulled down.

Reports from people who're doing the sidequests and not rushing themselves are coming in at 30-40 hours most of the time it seems.

I do know people who've completed it already in about 14 hours, though.

Which is why having competetision and a ****head boss put you through stress just to stay in business.

But yes. It is differnet when you are on a deadline.

Reports from people who're doing the sidequests and not rushing themselves are coming in at 30-40 hours most of the time it seems.

I do know people who've completed it already in about 14 hours, though.

Newnab

It was eight hours before I finally got off of the CItadel and started the main quest...try to get that. EIGHT hours before even STARTING the main quest. Length has to be up in the 35+ hour range.

[QUOTE="Newnab"]

Reports from people who're doing the sidequests and not rushing themselves are coming in at 30-40 hours most of the time it seems.

I do know people who've completed it already in about 14 hours, though.

Verge_6

It was eight hours before I finally got off of the CItadel and started the main quest...try to get that. EIGHT hours before even STARTING the main quest. Length has to be up in the 35+ hour range.

*nods* and I think I'm going to be in your camp. I'm taking my time with this one.

wow 20 hrs thats it lol. thats way too little for an rpg. even if it was 35 or 40 hrs, compared to oblivion or morrowing which lasts u about 200 plus hrs. thats why oblivion will always be in my personal colelction.pablito3

...Nope, not even going to bother. Your loss, kid. This si proof that ignorance is NOT bliss.

[QUOTE="Newnab"]

Reports from people who're doing the sidequests and not rushing themselves are coming in at 30-40 hours most of the time it seems.

I do know people who've completed it already in about 14 hours, though.

Verge_6

It was eight hours before I finally got off of the CItadel and started the main quest...try to get that. EIGHT hours before even STARTING the main quest. Length has to be up in the 35+ hour range.

Some of you guys complaining might want to listen to this guy....he has had the game for a few days now. Anyway, the last thing I am worried about with Mass Effect is game length, lol.

wow 20 hrs thats it lol. thats way too little for an rpg. even if it was 35 or 40 hrs, compared to oblivion or morrowing which lasts u about 200 plus hrs. thats why oblivion will always be in my personal colelction.pablito3

200 for oblivion, Oblivion is short with sidequests, I don't know how you play games but 200 hours on oblivion.
Also 20 hours for all side quests etc is pretty short, but Im still going to pick up the game it looks great. A short game maybe depressing but it will still be a fun 20 hours.

[QUOTE="pablito3"]wow 20 hrs thats it lol. thats way too little for an rpg. even if it was 35 or 40 hrs, compared to oblivion or morrowing which lasts u about 200 plus hrs. thats why oblivion will always be in my personal colelction.drednic

200 for oblivion, Oblivion is short with sidequests, I don't know how you play games but 200 hours on oblivion.
Also 20 hours for all side quests etc is pretty short, but Im still going to pick up the game it looks great. A short game maybe depressing but it will still be a fun 20 hours.

So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.jigglebilly1983

Damage control.

So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.jigglebilly1983

Why wasn't this brought up when Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Rachet was reviewed?

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.l-_-l

Damage control.

....You aren't serious. PLEASE tell me you're not serious...

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.King_of_Sorrow

Why wasn't this brought up when Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Rachet was reviewed?

Because nethier of those are RPGs with a plethora of sidequests?

It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.Ibacai

Once again, enither of those PS3 games had a multitude of side-quests that take considerable amounts of time to complete and even discover, not to mention the fact that it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to find most of them in your first playthough.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.Verge_6

Once again, enither of those PS3 games had a multitude of side-quests that take considerable amounts of time to complete and even discover, not to mention the fact that it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to find most of them in your first playthough.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.Ibacai

Once again, enither of those PS3 games had a multitude of side-quests that take considerable amounts of time to complete and even discover, not to mention the fact that it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to find most of them in your first playthough.

I wasn't denying that, but it's not possible for the extras in Uncharted to even come near those of Mass Effect.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.Verge_6

Once again, enither of those PS3 games had a multitude of side-quests that take considerable amounts of time to complete and even discover, not to mention the fact that it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to find most of them in your first playthough.

I wasn't denying that, but it's not possible for the extras in Uncharted to even come near those of Mass Effect.

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.Verge_6

Why wasn't this brought up when Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Rachet was reviewed?

Because nethier of those are RPGs with a plethora of sidequests?

I still think 20 hours is too short for an RPG. whatever happen to the 40-70 hours RPGs? I stop playing RPGs a long time ago for the reason they were too long.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.King_of_Sorrow

Why wasn't this brought up when Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Rachet was reviewed?

Because nethier of those are RPGs with a plethora of sidequests?

I still think 20 hours is too short for an RPG. whatever happen to the 40-70 hours RPGs? I stop playing RPGs a long time ago for the reason they were too long.

I'm not even going to bother with you, as all you will do is fall back on that one single 1 up review and 'take their word over anyone else's.'.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.Ibacai

Once again, enither of those PS3 games had a multitude of side-quests that take considerable amounts of time to complete and even discover, not to mention the fact that it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to find most of them in your first playthough.

I wasn't denying that, but it's not possible for the extras in Uncharted to even come near those of Mass Effect.

The POINT I am making is that the time that was cut away by the reviewers wasn't that much in the Uncharted game, as opposed to the 10-15+ hours cut from the ME 1up review. These really are two incomparable situations...

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.King_of_Sorrow

Why wasn't this brought up when Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Rachet was reviewed?

It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.Ibacai

Yea I mean, lemmings should have taken into consideration the amount of side quests and exploration that heavenly sword had and the amount that uncharted will have before they bashed. I mean, exploring the galaxy, having multiple endings and story branches, side quests etc and unlocking new stuff is comparable after all...

:/

You do have a pointrwbojorquez

Wasn't 1up that gave Assasin's a low score ?

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.Verge_6

Why wasn't this brought up when Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Rachet was reviewed?

Because nethier of those are RPGs with a plethora of sidequests?

I still think 20 hours is too short for an RPG. whatever happen to the 40-70 hours RPGs? I stop playing RPGs a long time ago for the reason they were too long.

I'm not even going to bother with you, as all you will do is fall back on that one single 1 up review and 'take their word over anyone else's.'.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.astiop

Yea I mean, lemmings should have taken into consideration the amount of side quests and exploration that heavenly sword had and the amount that uncharted will have before they bashed. I mean, exploring the galaxy, having multiple endings and story branches, side quests etc and unlocking new stuff is comparable after all...

:/

This is what I am trying to point out.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.astiop

Yea I mean, lemmings should have taken into consideration the amount of side quests and exploration that heavenly sword had and the amount that uncharted will have before they bashed. I mean, exploring the galaxy, having multiple endings and story branches, side quests etc and unlocking new stuff is comparable after all...

:/

Ibacai

I wasn't talking to you, you know...

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]So i see alot of people crying and bashing about how Suppossedly mass effect is only 12 hours without side quests and 20 with. Thats fine by me, but everyone seems to forget one thing about how reviewers play games. They dont play games like we do, they play them like they do, wich would be as a writer with a deadline. they only have so much time to beat a game and draft their reviews before the review goes to print or goes live on their site. Normally, this requires them to play games at a faster pace than we do, so calm down.Verge_6

Why wasn't this brought up when Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Rachet was reviewed?

Because nethier of those are RPGs with a plethora of sidequests?

I still think 20 hours is too short for an RPG. whatever happen to the 40-70 hours RPGs? I stop playing RPGs a long time ago for the reason they were too long.

I'm not even going to bother with you, as all you will do is fall back on that one single 1 up review and 'take their word over anyone else's.'.

Show me a link of a review that say Mass Effect is 30+ hours. Support you claim, please.I want this game to be good.

And now I'm an ass for not reading names. Sorry Verge. Not editing for ownage reasons.Ibacai

Dude, I do it all the time. Please go ahead.

[QUOTE="astiop"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.Ibacai

Yea I mean, lemmings should have taken into consideration the amount of side quests and exploration that heavenly sword had and the amount that uncharted will have before they bashed. I mean, exploring the galaxy, having multiple endings and story branches, side quests etc and unlocking new stuff is comparable after all...

:/

Yea but lemmings were bashing LINEAR games with no sidequesting etc, not rpgs the size of mass effect. When someone tells you a linear game is 8 hours, it will probably take most people that long, mabye a bit more for some or a bit less for others.

ME though, it's just not the same. If say, AC was a 360 exclusive and cows bashed it for it's size then they would be right, and I would accept what you were trying to say, but this time it's just not the same. I get your whole point about cows trying to do what lemmings did to them, I'm just saying they picked the wrong game to do it.

[Show me a link of a review that say Mass Effect is 30+ hours. Support you claim, please.I want this game to be good.King_of_Sorrow

How's about we wait for more reviews to actually EXIST, hmmm?

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="astiop"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]It all comes down to Uncharted and Heavenly Sword being bashed for their lengths (Reviewer lengths). We turn around and see that someone says Mass Effect is short and it's all about personal length now. :| I don't really care that Mass Effect is that short because 20+ hours isn't bad for a WRPG, with the replayability and all. That is close to average for a lot of my favorites. Summary - Lemmings are reaping what they sow at the moment.astiop

Yea I mean, lemmings should have taken into consideration the amount of side quests and exploration that heavenly sword had and the amount that uncharted will have before they bashed. I mean, exploring the galaxy, having multiple endings and story branches, side quests etc and unlocking new stuff is comparable after all...

:/

Yea but lemmings were bashing LINEAR games with no sidequesting etc, not rpgs the size of mass effect. When someone tells you a linear game is 8 hours, it will probably take most people that long, mabye a bit more for some or a bit less for others.

ME though, it's just not the same. If say, AC was a 360 exclusive and cows bashed it for it's size then they would be right, and I would accept what you were trying to say, but this time it's just not the same. I get your whole point about cows trying to do what lemmings did to them, I'm just saying they picked the wrong game to do it.

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][Show me a link of a review that say Mass Effect is 30+ hours. Support you claim, please.I want this game to be good.Verge_6

How's about we wait for more reviews to actually EXIST, hmmm?

Of course I will. I don't like reviews, but I will take their word on facts over a gamer like yourself. Reviews has this thing called credibility they have to keep, unlike you.

The main quest for Uncharted is indeed linear but there are plenty of reasons to replay the entire game. If the person is so inclined to do, just like the people who play Mass Effect. There are reasons to replay both, Mass Effect just has more. That is a given but the bashing by fanboys is still ignorant for both games. And now you're taking the reviewers word for Uncharted but arguing that Mass Effect is longer then what the reviewer says. You need to either pick a side, trust the reviewers or don't.Ibacai

The 8 hours example wasn't a reference to uncharted. Last I heard it was 12 hours and that was from sw. I don't read reviews of games I'm not gonna buy, nor do I go arround claiming ownage/complaining about games lengths I haven't even played.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]

The main quest for Uncharted is indeed linear but there are plenty of reasons to replay the entire game. If the person is so inclined to do, just like the people who play Mass Effect. There are reasons to replay both, Mass Effect just has more. That is a given but the bashing by fanboys is still ignorant for both games. And now you're taking the reviewers word for Uncharted but arguing that Mass Effect is longer then what the reviewer says. You need to either pick a side, trust the reviewers or don't.astiop

The 8 hours example wasn't a reference to uncharted. Last I heard it was 12 hours and that was from sw. I don't read reviews of games I'm not gonna buy, nor do I go arround claiming ownage/complaining about games lengths I haven't even played.