According to Teamxbox, Halo 3's visuals will not improve much.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

ok thanks for the link, now kindly point to the part where they say that the visuals wont get any better?

 because the only thing said is that no one will care if they dont, they never once said one time that the visuals couldn't or wouldn't get better. 

neversummer75

Link is on the way. Give me a sec it get it.

Keep in mind that this is from teamxbox's forum where, Bret who is one of teamxbox's reviewers, and the guy who previewed this game for teamxbox is answering questions from people in the forums.

"Hard to say. The game looks pretty far along as it is now so there's no telling what all they have planned in addition or not.

I would suspect that we won't see any dramatic enhancements in the visuals, but we might see some extra bells and whistles such as drop ships flying above or some kind of subtle little details like that.

Other than that, I don't really expect too many things will change so drastically that it would look like a different game. I'd bet that the way the game looks now is basically how it's going to look.

Between now and release they will probably tweak gameplay and so forth and continue finishing up the single player production."

[QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

ok thanks for the link, now kindly point to the part where they say that the visuals wont get any better?

 because the only thing said is that no one will care if they dont, they never once said one time that the visuals couldn't or wouldn't get better. 

neversummer75

Link is on the way. Give me a sec it get it.

Keep in mind that this is from teamxbox's forum where, Bret who is one of teamxbox's reviewers, and the guy who previewed this game for teamxbox is answering questions from people in the forums.

"Hard to say. The game looks pretty far along as it is now so there's no telling what all they have planned in addition or not.

I would suspect that we won't see any dramatic enhancements in the visuals, but we might see some extra bells and whistles such as drop ships flying above or some kind of subtle little details like that.

Other than that, I don't really expect too many things will change so drastically that it would look like a different game. I'd bet that the way the game looks now is basically how it's going to look.

Between now and release they will probably tweak gameplay and so forth and continue finishing up the single player production."

Sorry, forgot the link.

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=524468

[QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="neversummer75"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]why has no one called this guy out? hes provided no link whatsoever.krp008

You got it my friend.

 "The visuals are now in HD, though honestly, they probably will leave many unimpressed. But really, no one will care if Halo 3 doesn't look like Gears of War as long as it plays great. And, after an hour of playtime, I think Halo 3 might just deliver"

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/787/787935p2.html

"After playing a series of matches, I started to get a bit more critical of the game once my journalistic side took over. As I mentioned earlier, I was not too impressed with the game's visuals and this was probably the first bit of criticism I noted to myself and others standing by. Some of the effects such as explosions and weapon fire do look a good deal better than what we've seen before, but I was not too won over by overall appearance of the environments themselves. The maps were well designed and well laid out, but graphically, they just didn't give that "next-gen" feeling of the more immersive surroundings that we've come to expect from the Xbox 360. By this I mean the subtle details we've seen in various next-gen games that create a more encompassing, living, breathing world. Halo 3's environments are definitely not bad looking, but they just don't seem to have that level of detail that makes us feel as though we are being transported from our living rooms to another world"

http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1608/Halo-3/p1/

People, thats what I mean. Yes, the visuals look good but not "NEXT-GEN" good. That is not what I purchased my xbox360 for. Will I still being picking up my pre-ordered Halo 3? Hell yes I will be. However, I am very disappointed in Bunggie. I expected WAY more out of them.

So explain to me. What would make Halo 3 Beta look "next-gen good"? Cause i cant see what you fanboys see

Why dont you ask teamxbox and IGN that question. They are in a better position to answer that than I would They have acutally played the game and have seen the visuals first hand. They aren't all the impressed with it.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Visuals are not what has ever impressed me about the Halo series, and if that is all that you are worried about, you might just be missing the point of gaming, which is that games are supposed to be fun much moreso than visually stunning, and Halo has always been very fun and very solid.neversummer75

I see your point and agree to an extent. However, is there a reason why we can't have amazing visuals as well?

    Have you played the final Halo 3 code? I sure haven't, so I will wait to judge the visuals until I can play the final code...heck, or even the Beta... 

[QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

ok thanks for the link, now kindly point to the part where they say that the visuals wont get any better?

 because the only thing said is that no one will care if they dont, they never once said one time that the visuals couldn't or wouldn't get better. 

neversummer75

Link is on the way. Give me a sec it get it.

Keep in mind that this is from teamxbox's forum where, Bret who is one of teamxbox's reviewers, and the guy who previewed this game for teamxbox is answering questions from people in the forums.

"Hard to say. The game looks pretty far along as it is now so there's no telling what all they have planned in addition or not.

I would suspect that we won't see any dramatic enhancements in the visuals, but we might see some extra bells and whistles such as drop ships flying above or some kind of subtle little details like that.

Other than that, I don't really expect too many things will change so drastically that it would look like a different game. I'd bet that the way the game looks now is basically how it's going to look.

Between now and release they will probably tweak gameplay and so forth and continue finishing up the single player production."

Sorry, forgot the link.

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=524468

Bret who is ONE of teamxbox's reviewers...

I care more about the story then I do about the graphics. With that said, I don't think the Halo-verse can be improved by much. Halo is just highly stylized science fiction so it can never look 100% real without completely changing the whole look of the series.

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

another quote from th[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="braydee1234"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="braydee1234"]

Those claiming ownage or worrying the graphics look average are quite uninformed. Bungie have a history of making decent looking games look incredible in the last few weeks of production. This is the reason Forza 2 is looking sweet when it looked average before. Most games do this, it's what the last 5 weeks of production are for.

As for 16 players, it was laggy as heck on H2 and I rarely played more than 12 player games with it. So it makes no difference for me.

braydee1234

Bungie made Halo 1 in 7-8 months for the Xbox 1 launch, and look how amazing the graphics were. The graphics improved 180% from E3 (June?) to November

was your claim supporting my point or not? it wasn't clear.

Yes. Bungie improved the graphics 180% in 4-5 months (probably didnt focus on the graphics until 2-3 months before release)

i keep finding quotes that disprove this "lemming" TC

Halo 3 might still be a work in progress, but the beta is already looking great."

taken from the same gamespot hands on. 

 Are you questioning if I'm a lemming or not? Check out my past posts. The only time I'm critical of the xbox is when its warrented(Halo 3 and Forza 2's visuals.) Other than that I have been nothing but critical of the playstation 3 and have praised the xbox and xbox360 to high heaven. Furtermore, check my xboxlive gamertag: Homer75. You will see that I'm an avid xbox360 gamer. Yes, gamespot thinks the game looks great but not amazing, as in next gen amazing. If one of teamxbox's main lemmings thinks this game looks underwhelming then I for one thinks that is a very bad sign for Halo 3. For teamxbox goes out of its way to praise the xbox360 and bash all other systems.

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The 16 player part has little to do with the 360's power but more with peoples connections. You still depend on a hosts connection and if its not extremely good 16 players should be max. Resistance gets 40 players because its on dedicated servers.Mikerules868

no its because they said, 40 players is possible but it just disent suit the maps and gameplay.

of course 40 players is possible (CoD3 proves you can hold more than 16 without lag cause they pool all the players bandwidth together instead of relying solely on one persons connection),  but why on Earth would you want that many people in one game to begin with?  CoD is a wonderful franchise,  but when playing on the PC it gets more frustrating than fun when there's more people in one game.   

[QUOTE="Rip870"]wow this is pretty funny. In month lemmings and cows has argument about graphics. But suddenly when Halo 3 graphic are a let down they dont care about the graphic anymore. krp008

Thats the point! Halo 3's Beta graphics ARN'T A LET DOWN! When will you fanboys open your eyes?

Man are you serious you didn't expect more from Bungie? After all hype this game have got atleast i did.

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

The_Game21x

Ok, i guess you are ok with being satisfied with the visuals of one the biggest games to be released in the last 4-5 years. I for one don't like to settle for mediocrity. I want the next gen Halo to be "NEXT-GEN" on ALL levels. Yes, and that includes the visuals. Is that too much to ask for? Thats why I purcahsed the xbox360 to begin with.

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

The_Game21x

    Nope, I am with you on this one. 

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

neversummer75

Ok, i guess you are ok with being satisfied with the visuals of one the biggest games to be released in the last 4-5 years. I for one don't like to settle for mediocrity. I want the next gen Halo to be "NEXT-GEN" on ALL levels. Yes, and that includes the visuals. Is that too much to ask for? Thats why I purcahsed the xbox360 to begin with.

    Like I asked, have you or anyone played the final Halo 3 code? No, because ITS NOT DONE YET!

    Also, Halo 2 was not the best looking Xbox game...did that stop it from being an amazing game? 

[QUOTE="braydee1234"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="braydee1234"]

Those claiming ownage or worrying the graphics look average are quite uninformed. Bungie have a history of making decent looking games look incredible in the last few weeks of production. This is the reason Forza 2 is looking sweet when it looked average before. Most games do this, it's what the last 5 weeks of production are for.

As for 16 players, it was laggy as heck on H2 and I rarely played more than 12 player games with it. So it makes no difference for me.

krp008

Bungie made Halo 1 in 7-8 months for the Xbox 1 launch, and look how amazing the graphics were. The graphics improved 180% from E3 (June?) to November

was your claim supporting my point or not? it wasn't clear. 

Yes. Bungie improved the graphics 180% in 4-5 months (probably didnt focus on the graphics until 2-3 months before release)

OF course bungie improved the graphics for Halo.  The game was originally being designed for a completely different engine during its initial unveiling.  As I recall, prior to the purchase by Microsoft, Halo was supposed to be a third person Action game for the PC and PS2.  The game spent a long time in development on the PC and already started to show its age.  The core mechanics of the game were arleady their, all they had to do in the given amount of time was redesign the game engine and make some higher poly meshes.  So yeah, of course the game is going to look better.  Halo 3 on the other hand, has been designed from the ground up for the 360, thus how it looks now, won't change much through its release.  Personally I don't care, i think it looks decent.  The water effects look nice, and the textures are pretty high res, but at the same time I also dont have an HD tv to fully enjoy it so I could care less how it really turns out.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

neversummer75

Ok, i guess you are ok with being satisfied with the visuals of one the biggest games to be released in the last 4-5 years. I for one don't like to settle for mediocrity. I want the next gen Halo to be "NEXT-GEN" on ALL levels. Yes, and that includes the visuals. Is that too much to ask for? Thats why I purcahsed the xbox360 to begin with.

Well I'm sorry Halo 3 doesn't satisfy the graphics whore in you but on many levels it does look "next gen". The effects are simply amazing and the lighting is flat out gorgeous. Not to mention the fact that we've seen no single player footage whatsoever. Most games look their best in the singleplayer campaign so you should really hold your tongue until you see that.

Based on your posts, you fit within the graphics whore mold, and well, graphics whores will never be satisfied. Not even Crysis or Gears of War will satisfy those people because they think there's always going to be a better looking game. And that's true.Graphics whores are never satisfied.

[QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

The_Game21x

Ok, i guess you are ok with being satisfied with the visuals of one the biggest games to be released in the last 4-5 years. I for one don't like to settle for mediocrity. I want the next gen Halo to be "NEXT-GEN" on ALL levels. Yes, and that includes the visuals. Is that too much to ask for? Thats why I purcahsed the xbox360 to begin with.

Well I'm sorry Halo 3 doesn't satisfy the graphics whore in you but on many levels it does look "next gen". The effects are simply amazing and the lighting is flat out gorgeous. Not to mention the fact that we've seen no single player footage whatsoever. Most games look their best in the singleplayer campaign so you should really hold your tongue until you see that.

Based on your posts, you fit within the graphics whore mold, and well, graphics whores will never be satisfied. Not even Crysis or Gears of War will satisfy those people because they think there's always going to be a better looking game. And that's true.Graphics whores are never satisfied.

Halo 3 looks "Amazing?" Not according to bret over at teamxbox and IGN. They have ACTUALLY PLAYED the game. I think I will take their oppinion over yours. Even before reading their oppinions of the game, I was very unimpressed with the VISUALS that I saw in the most recent videos and pics. Readin their oppinions on the undewhelming visuals only confirmed my fears in regards to the visuals. Furthermore, whats wrong with liking really good graphics? I thought grears of war looked amazing. I think fight night round  3 looked amazing, I think GRAW 2 looked really good. I call them how I see them. If a game looks good, I will say it does. If it doesn't I will be honest and admit it. Do you think its easy for me to say that Halo 3 doesnt look all the great? It pains me to say it because I LOVE Halo. That is why I'm soo disappointed.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

SpruceCaboose

Nope, I am with you on this one.

I'm with u guys too. Halo-3 BETA looks great can't wait to see the final version! I don't think it'll look better than GeOW but if campaign looks like E3 2006 trailer than that'll be enough.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

neversummer75

Ok, i guess you are ok with being satisfied with the visuals of one the biggest games to be released in the last 4-5 years. I for one don't like to settle for mediocrity. I want the next gen Halo to be "NEXT-GEN" on ALL levels. Yes, and that includes the visuals. Is that too much to ask for? Thats why I purcahsed the xbox360 to begin with.

Well I'm sorry Halo 3 doesn't satisfy the graphics whore in you but on many levels it does look "next gen". The effects are simply amazing and the lighting is flat out gorgeous. Not to mention the fact that we've seen no single player footage whatsoever. Most games look their best in the singleplayer campaign so you should really hold your tongue until you see that.

Based on your posts, you fit within the graphics whore mold, and well, graphics whores will never be satisfied. Not even Crysis or Gears of War will satisfy those people because they think there's always going to be a better looking game. And that's true.Graphics whores are never satisfied.

Halo 3 looks "Amazing?" Not according to bret over at teamxbox and IGN. They have ACTUALLY PLAYED the game. I think I will take their oppinion over yours. Even before reading their oppinions of the game, I was very unimpressed with the VISUALS that I saw in the most recent videos and pics. Readin their oppinions on the undewhelming visuals only confirmed my fears in regards to the visuals. Furthermore, whats wrong with liking really good graphics? I thought grears of war looked amazing. I think fight night round 3 looked amazing, I think GRAW 2 looked really good. I call them how I see them. If a game looks good, I will say it does. If it doesn't I will be honest and admit it. Do you think its easy for me to say that Halo 3 doesnt look all the great? It pains me to say it because I LOVE Halo. That is why I'm soo disappointed.

umm i know PLENTY of very good halo players playing the beta right now. they say it looks amazing and plays WAY better than halo 2.  sounds good to me. 

Halo 3 looks "Amazing?" Not according to bret over at teamxbox and IGN. They have ACTUALLY PLAYED the game. I think I will take their oppinion over yours. Even before reading their oppinions of the game, I was very unimpressed with the VISUALS that I saw in the most recent videos and pics. Readin their oppinions on the undewhelming visuals only confirmed my fears in regards to the visuals. Furthermore, whats wrong with liking really good graphics? I thought grears of war looked amazing. I think fight night round 3 looked amazing, I think GRAW 2 looked really good. I call them how I see them. If a game looks good, I will say it does. If it doesn't I will be honest and admit it. Do you think its easy for me to say that Halo 3 doesnt look all the great? It pains me to say it because I LOVE Halo. That is why I'm soo disappointed.

neversummer75

    No, they have actually played an unfinished build of the game. And again, Halo and Halo 2 were never the best looking games. That is not what Halo has been about. It has always been highly stylized instead of photo-realistic. Why would they all of a sudden abandon the art style that the faithful fans love just to make the game "prettier" with photo-realism?

    You don't alienate your main fanbase to try to appeal to everyone, because then you end up appealing to no one.

So its the other way around now. Xbox is for gameplay! :Pjsnepo

halo is known for its gameplay, not graphics.  it is a tournament game becuase of its gameplay. 

So its the other way around now. Xbox is for gameplay! :Pjsnepo

    Since when did Halo 3 = Xbox? 

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

neversummer75

Ok, i guess you are ok with being satisfied with the visuals of one the biggest games to be released in the last 4-5 years. I for one don't like to settle for mediocrity. I want the next gen Halo to be "NEXT-GEN" on ALL levels. Yes, and that includes the visuals. Is that too much to ask for? Thats why I purcahsed the xbox360 to begin with.

Well I'm sorry Halo 3 doesn't satisfy the graphics whore in you but on many levels it does look "next gen". The effects are simply amazing and the lighting is flat out gorgeous. Not to mention the fact that we've seen no single player footage whatsoever. Most games look their best in the singleplayer campaign so you should really hold your tongue until you see that.

Based on your posts, you fit within the graphics whore mold, and well, graphics whores will never be satisfied. Not even Crysis or Gears of War will satisfy those people because they think there's always going to be a better looking game. And that's true.Graphics whores are never satisfied.

Halo 3 looks "Amazing?" Not according to bret over at teamxbox and IGN. They have ACTUALLY PLAYED the game. I think I will take their oppinion over yours. Even before reading their oppinions of the game, I was very unimpressed with the VISUALS that I saw in the most recent videos and pics. Readin their oppinions on the undewhelming visuals only confirmed my fears in regards to the visuals. Furthermore, whats wrong with liking really good graphics? I thought grears of war looked amazing. I think fight night round  3 looked amazing, I think GRAW 2 looked really good. I call them how I see them. If a game looks good, I will say it does. If it doesn't I will be honest and admit it. Do you think its easy for me to say that Halo 3 doesnt look all the great? It pains me to say it because I LOVE Halo. That is why I'm soo disappointed.

I said the effects were amazing. Not the beta as a whole. But to tell you the truth, I don't really care, as it looks just fine to me. The visuals I've seen in the videos, screens, etc. look great to me. But then again, I haven't been spoiled by Gears of War. And you can take their opinions if you want. I could easily find quotes from 1UP or GS editors themselves that support my "Halo 3 looks great" opinion as well. Personally, I don't really care if you don't like it, because I've already pegged you as a graphics whore and thus, you'll never be satisfied with anything.

Hm....how about i post the other guys impression.

"You've probably read a lot about how Halo 3 looks in motion. It's hard to really compare Halo 3 to Halo 2 without actually comparing them side-by-side (which we may do for y'all next week). The human mind is tricky. It can easily fool you into thinking that something is similar in appearance solely because the elements are similar. This is what we expect is happening to players in Halo 3, as this is a slick, highly-polished visual treat that is sure to please.



So no, Halo 3 is not "Halo 2 in HD", unless HD automatically means explosions are made realistic, airborne corpses believably rag-doll and character models and background objects burst off of the screen. This is, in fact, about the hard work put into creating Halo 3 and has little to do with the high resolution at all (we should all understand how HD changes a game with Halo 2's move to 720). It's about solid normal mapping and lighting techniques and a physics engine that simply makes character movement in all situations more believable; even when said character is being seen as a third-person casualty hurtling through the air."

Hm....sounds good to me. 

Neversummer75's apparent worshipping of Bret at TeamXbox is worrying, it makes you wonder how many times he's sucked bret off.braydee1234

nice one. Very original. The reason why I keep quoting him is because I feel that it has the most impact. Its coming from a site called "teamxbox" They are lemmings to the max. If a lemming and defender of everyting xbox isnt impressed with the visuals, I think that say A LOT.

Hm....how about i post the other guys impression.

"You've probably read a lot about how Halo 3 looks in motion. It's hard to really compare Halo 3 to Halo 2 without actually comparing them side-by-side (which we may do for y'all next week). The human mind is tricky. It can easily fool you into thinking that something is similar in appearance solely because the elements are similar. This is what we expect is happening to players in Halo 3, as this is a slick, highly-polished visual treat that is sure to please.



So no, Halo 3 is not "Halo 2 in HD", unless HD automatically means explosions are made realistic, airborne corpses believably rag-doll and character models and background objects burst off of the screen. This is, in fact, about the hard work put into creating Halo 3 and has little to do with the high resolution at all (we should all understand how HD changes a game with Halo 2's move to 720). It's about solid normal mapping and lighting techniques and a physics engine that simply makes character movement in all situations more believable; even when said character is being seen as a third-person casualty hurtling through the air."

Hm....sounds good to me.

Sekeru

    Me too! 

Hm....how about i post the other guys impression.

"You've probably read a lot about how Halo 3 looks in motion. It's hard to really compare Halo 3 to Halo 2 without actually comparing them side-by-side (which we may do for y'all next week). The human mind is tricky. It can easily fool you into thinking that something is similar in appearance solely because the elements are similar. This is what we expect is happening to players in Halo 3, as this is a slick, highly-polished visual treat that is sure to please.



So no, Halo 3 is not "Halo 2 in HD", unless HD automatically means explosions are made realistic, airborne corpses believably rag-doll and character models and background objects burst off of the screen. This is, in fact, about the hard work put into creating Halo 3 and has little to do with the high resolution at all (we should all understand how HD changes a game with Halo 2's move to 720). It's about solid normal mapping and lighting techniques and a physics engine that simply makes character movement in all situations more believable; even when said character is being seen as a third-person casualty hurtling through the air."

Hm....sounds good to me. 

Sekeru

He uses words such as solide. That doesnt sound amazing and next-gen to me.

[QUOTE="braydee1234"]Neversummer75's apparent worshipping of Bret at TeamXbox is worrying, it makes you wonder how many times he's sucked bret off.neversummer75

nice one. Very original. The reason why I keep quoting him is because I feel that it has the most impact. Its coming from a site called "teamxbox" They are lemmings to the max. If a lemming and defender of everyting xbox isnt impressed with the visuals, I think that say A LOT.

    If you actually bothered to look at TeamXbox, they are very critical of Microsoft sometimes, and are far from blind fanboys. They are intelligent people who like the Xbox, but they do remain pretty unbiased. 

[QUOTE="Sekeru"]

Hm....how about i post the other guys impression.

"You've probably read a lot about how Halo 3 looks in motion. It's hard to really compare Halo 3 to Halo 2 without actually comparing them side-by-side (which we may do for y'all next week). The human mind is tricky. It can easily fool you into thinking that something is similar in appearance solely because the elements are similar. This is what we expect is happening to players in Halo 3, as this is a slick, highly-polished visual treat that is sure to please.



So no, Halo 3 is not "Halo 2 in HD", unless HD automatically means explosions are made realistic, airborne corpses believably rag-doll and character models and background objects burst off of the screen. This is, in fact, about the hard work put into creating Halo 3 and has little to do with the high resolution at all (we should all understand how HD changes a game with Halo 2's move to 720). It's about solid normal mapping and lighting techniques and a physics engine that simply makes character movement in all situations more believable; even when said character is being seen as a third-person casualty hurtling through the air."

Hm....sounds good to me. 

neversummer75

He uses words such as solide. That doesnt sound amazing and next-gen to me.

When hes talking about a game for the 360 that means it looks next-gen.And why does it have to looks ultra amazing crysis level?Explain to me what looks bad about the game. 

Hm....how about i post the other guys impression.

"You've probably read a lot about how Halo 3 looks in motion. It's hard to really compare Halo 3 to Halo 2 without actually comparing them side-by-side (which we may do for y'all next week). The human mind is tricky. It can easily fool you into thinking that something is similar in appearance solely because the elements are similar. This is what we expect is happening to players in Halo 3, as this is a slick, highly-polished visual treat that is sure to please.



So no, Halo 3 is not "Halo 2 in HD", unless HD automatically means explosions are made realistic, airborne corpses believably rag-doll and character models and background objects burst off of the screen. This is, in fact, about the hard work put into creating Halo 3 and has little to do with the high resolution at all (we should all understand how HD changes a game with Halo 2's move to 720). It's about solid normal mapping and lighting techniques and a physics engine that simply makes character movement in all situations more believable; even when said character is being seen as a third-person casualty hurtling through the air."

Hm....sounds good to me. 

Sekeru

Nice. I guess Brent is all by himself on this one.

Here's more to add insult to injury.

"Visually, the Halo 3 beta looks impressive. Yes, it looks like a higher-resolution version of Halo 2, but the textures and details are razor sharp, and there's a lush quality to the world that wasn't there before. You'll run through fields of flowers or your body will float in a tranquil pond. The high dynamic range lighting in the game also provides a realistic look to the lighting and the world. Meanwhile, there's a smoothness and fluidity to everything now that makes battles fun to watch."

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/news.html?sid=6170611&om_act=convert&om_clk=newlyadded&tag=newlyadded;title;1

[QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="Sekeru"]

Hm....how about i post the other guys impression.

"You've probably read a lot about how Halo 3 looks in motion. It's hard to really compare Halo 3 to Halo 2 without actually comparing them side-by-side (which we may do for y'all next week). The human mind is tricky. It can easily fool you into thinking that something is similar in appearance solely because the elements are similar. This is what we expect is happening to players in Halo 3, as this is a slick, highly-polished visual treat that is sure to please.



So no, Halo 3 is not "Halo 2 in HD", unless HD automatically means explosions are made realistic, airborne corpses believably rag-doll and character models and background objects burst off of the screen. This is, in fact, about the hard work put into creating Halo 3 and has little to do with the high resolution at all (we should all understand how HD changes a game with Halo 2's move to 720). It's about solid normal mapping and lighting techniques and a physics engine that simply makes character movement in all situations more believable; even when said character is being seen as a third-person casualty hurtling through the air."

Hm....sounds good to me. 

Sekeru

He uses words such as solide. That doesnt sound amazing and next-gen to me.

When hes talking about a game for the 360 that means it looks next-gen.And why does it have to looks ultra amazing crysis level?Explain to me what looks bad about the game. 

Why dont you ask teamxbox and IGN. They have both actually PLAYED the game and are underwhelmed with the visuals. They can asnwer your question much better than I can.

[QUOTE="Sekeru"][QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="Sekeru"]

Hm....how about i post the other guys impression.

"You've probably read a lot about how Halo 3 looks in motion. It's hard to really compare Halo 3 to Halo 2 without actually comparing them side-by-side (which we may do for y'all next week). The human mind is tricky. It can easily fool you into thinking that something is similar in appearance solely because the elements are similar. This is what we expect is happening to players in Halo 3, as this is a slick, highly-polished visual treat that is sure to please.



So no, Halo 3 is not "Halo 2 in HD", unless HD automatically means explosions are made realistic, airborne corpses believably rag-doll and character models and background objects burst off of the screen. This is, in fact, about the hard work put into creating Halo 3 and has little to do with the high resolution at all (we should all understand how HD changes a game with Halo 2's move to 720). It's about solid normal mapping and lighting techniques and a physics engine that simply makes character movement in all situations more believable; even when said character is being seen as a third-person casualty hurtling through the air."

Hm....sounds good to me. 

neversummer75

He uses words such as solide. That doesnt sound amazing and next-gen to me.

When hes talking about a game for the 360 that means it looks next-gen.And why does it have to looks ultra amazing crysis level?Explain to me what looks bad about the game. 

Why dont you ask teamxbox and IGN. They have both actually PLAYED the game and are underwhelmed with the visuals. They can asnwer your question much better than I can.

Well that would be a little bit diffucult  seeing how i cant just call up the guys at IGN or TX.But i will take faith in the qoute i gave about halo 3 looking great and much much better than just halo 2 in HD.

Why dont you ask teamxbox and IGN. They have both actually PLAYED the game and are underwhelmed with the visuals. They can asnwer your question much better than I can.

neversummer75

    Seriously, and for the last time, they have played a BETA VERSION OF AN UNFINISHED GAME! It is not, I will repeat, not the final code, and its not the final graphical build. Jeez you just don't want to understand that, do you? 

[QUOTE="Sekeru"][QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="Sekeru"]

Hm....how about i post the other guys impression.

"You've probably read a lot about how Halo 3 looks in motion. It's hard to really compare Halo 3 to Halo 2 without actually comparing them side-by-side (which we may do for y'all next week). The human mind is tricky. It can easily fool you into thinking that something is similar in appearance solely because the elements are similar. This is what we expect is happening to players in Halo 3, as this is a slick, highly-polished visual treat that is sure to please.



So no, Halo 3 is not "Halo 2 in HD", unless HD automatically means explosions are made realistic, airborne corpses believably rag-doll and character models and background objects burst off of the screen. This is, in fact, about the hard work put into creating Halo 3 and has little to do with the high resolution at all (we should all understand how HD changes a game with Halo 2's move to 720). It's about solid normal mapping and lighting techniques and a physics engine that simply makes character movement in all situations more believable; even when said character is being seen as a third-person casualty hurtling through the air."

Hm....sounds good to me. 

neversummer75

He uses words such as solide. That doesnt sound amazing and next-gen to me.

When hes talking about a game for the 360 that means it looks next-gen.And why does it have to looks ultra amazing crysis level?Explain to me what looks bad about the game. 

Why dont you ask teamxbox and IGN. They have both actually PLAYED the game and are underwhelmed with the visuals. They can asnwer your question much better than I can.

How about the other guy Dale? Should we call him? He seemed to like Halo 3's visuals. So did Jason Ocampo at GameSpot. Should we call them?

Not to mention the fact the game still isn't finsihed. You're just grasping at straws here.

[QUOTE="braydee1234"]Neversummer75's apparent worshipping of Bret at TeamXbox is worrying, it makes you wonder how many times he's sucked bret off.neversummer75

nice one. Very original. The reason why I keep quoting him is because I feel that it has the most impact. Its coming from a site called "teamxbox" They are lemmings to the max. If a lemming and defender of everyting xbox isnt impressed with the visuals, I think that say A LOT.

People have different OPINIONS! :|

    Also, the great thing about opinions is that they are opinions, and you don't have to agree with other ones. Allow me to give an example.

    Halo 2 reviews. It is heavily praised and rated very high. Yet that didn't stop this review:

    "The Xbox shooter [Halo 2] is currently being praised to the videogaming gods as the new next-best thing. And I just don't see it. To me, the Bungie game is just a faded copy of a story-based PC shooter, which does almost everything in a forgettable manner. Intermixed human and alien storylines make the plot nearly incomprehensible. Missions blandly lead you through one ambush point after another. Use of vehicles and gun turrets add a little zest, although these sequences are canned and gimmicky. Level architecture is simplistic, with nearly every level consisting of narrow corridors and featureless rooms."

    "In short, I don't get what all the fuss is about. At least the first Halo could be acclaimed as being an honest-to-goodness innovative console shooter, thanks to recharging energy shields, weapon and ammo limitations, and a melee option that wasn't suicidal. The sequel is just more of the same, but with extra blah." Link

    Are the 100% scores right, or is the 70% score right? Well, they both are, since its only a person's opinion. In a TeamXbox reviewers, Halo 3 is good looking, but not great looking. To others, it is.

    I will wait til the retail build is in my 360, and then I will make my own call on its visuals. 

Who CARES. There where far better looking games on the first XBOX. Halo was great for its gameply and story line.

I dont see anyone crying about how bad the Wii looks.

Am I the only person here who's satisfied with Halo 3's graphics? Seriously. It seems like it.

The_Game21x

TC, did you have a problem playing Halo 2?Sir-Marwin105

All these people whining about the graphics. I took another look at the videos and they are fine. People seem to forget that the maps are a "tad" bigger then GEoW maps and that we have the ability to play with 2 times the amount of people. Also the style of Halo doesn't really allow for a massive improvement anyways, most of the surfaces etc are shiny and flat in Halo. Halo is colorfull, not some gritty 1000 tones of grey Gears.

Besides I rather have good gameplay than good graphics. Besides if you own a Wii, then you can say you are underwhelmed by graphics. Stop puting shovelware out and dev something good you lazy developers and publishers 

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]TC, did you have a problem playing Halo 2?SmoothMoved

    If that is a dig at Halo being casual, I would dare most gamers who think its so easy to step into a real Halo tourney and have their @$$ handed to them.