Ace Combat 6 Vs. Lair

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#1 rpgfan360
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Ace Combat 6 Gameplay Mountains

Lair Gameplay Mountains

Ace Combat 6 Gameplay Enviroments

Lair Gameplay Enviroments

Ace Combat Gameplay Pics

Lair Gameplay Pics

Now i think both look great in actual gameplay videos, especially in ace combat 6 with the city enviromets and they are huge citys to, they also have really nice character models.

Both games have some nice water effect and mountains are very nice in both, i beileve both games are good.but i only have a 360 so you know were my vote goes to.

Heres a few gameplay videos for your viewing pleasure.

Lair Videos

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/2657.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21038.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21036.html

Ace Combat 6 Videos

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/76835.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/20630.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/20597.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/20930.html

Discuss....

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#2 Eltroz
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It is not even close. AC6 blows away Lair. Also AC6 will have online.

P.S. you should have made this a poll thread.

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#3 rpgfan360
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It is not even close. AC6 blows away Lair. Also AC6 will have online.

P.S. you should have made this a poll thread.

Eltroz

this is one of my other accounts so im a low level and cant make a poll.

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#5 Grive
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I'm not too sure it's a fair comparison. For starters, a plane is a terribly simple thing to model, even with the flaps and all. At least, it's terribly simple compared to your average organic creature, not to mention an average monster. Compounding this, I don't think you're supposed to land on those buildings to take a look around in Ace Combat 6. At those distances anyone can make a building look good.

Not saying AC6 sucks or Lair rocks or anything like that. I just think it's an apples and oranges comparison... and both look hawt.

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#6 PBSnipes
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AC by far. Lair looks good but AC is one of the best looking games coming to consoles.
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#7 PeterTimpa
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Both look amazing. Ace Combat has always been pretty fun, Lair I am a bit ifi on it but if the gameplay is like the graphics then we will have one sweet game
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#8 TrueReligion_
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Yeah, I'm going to pretend this thread doesn't exist. :|
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#9 Eltroz
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Yeah, I'm going to pretend this thread doesn't exist. :|TrueReligion_
But yet you posted in it :roll:
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#10 OXIIIIXO
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It is not even close. AC6 blows away Lair. Also AC6 will have online.

P.S. you should have made this a poll thread.

Eltroz

Look at the buildings in the AC6 pics, half of them are 3d and the other half is flat.

There are also more things going on in Lair than there are in AC6 and yet Lair looks better.

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#11 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

It is not even close. AC6 blows away Lair. Also AC6 will have online.

P.S. you should have made this a poll thread.

OXIIIIXO

Look at the buildings in the AC6 pics, half of them are 3d and the other half is flat.

There are also more things going on in Lair than there are in AC6 and yet Lair looks better.

Just because I always try to help out other people I wanted to give you this link. http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Default.aspI think it may help after reading what you said.
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#12 ff7isnumbaone
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Ac is dead if it doesn't come back to playstation but has an old fan of AC it does look good. Better than lair um no because their different. Hard to explain.
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#13 rpgfan360
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Ac is dead if it doesn't come back to playstation but has an old fan of AC it does look good. Better than lair um no because their different. Hard to explain.ff7isnumbaone
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only a fanboy would say that.

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#14 OXIIIIXO
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[QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

It is not even close. AC6 blows away Lair. Also AC6 will have online.

P.S. you should have made this a poll thread.

Eltroz

Look at the buildings in the AC6 pics, half of them are 3d and the other half is flat.

There are also more things going on in Lair than there are in AC6 and yet Lair looks better.

Just because I always try to help out other people I wanted to give you this link. http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Default.aspI think it may help after reading what you said.

I'm surprised you were able to find that site.

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#15 nhh12345
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Sadly, people are forgetting that ace combat uses bitmap images.



This is ace combat 5,

It is like stating gran turismo4 enviroments are better then forza 2's enviroments because they are bitmaps. The camera angle on the game just turns, but it is like staring at a canvas the whole time. In ace combat, the image barely moves, and that is the main problem with the game.

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#16 GermanShepard06
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looks like nobody has seen AC gameplay videos, i thought the game was running at 10 frames per second andI also thought i was watching a ps2 game in high res.
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#17 GermanShepard06
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Sadly, people are forgetting that ace combat uses bitmap images.



This is ace combat 5,

It is like stating gran turismo4 enviroments are better then forza 2's enviroments because they are bitmaps. The camera angle on the game just turns, but it is like staring at a canvas the whole time. In ace combat, the image barely moves, and that is the main problem with the game.

nhh12345

those r not gameplay graphics, why dont u go watch some gameplay videos and you will find out how horrible the game actually looks and plays.

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#18 GermanShepard06
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first of all, making a comparion between these two games makes no sense. if u tried to get close to the ground in AC the entire object will turn out to be in 4 to 5 giant pixels.

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#19 momma_s_BoY_ps3
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OK THIS IS COMMON SENSE LAIR LOOKS 1,000,000,000 lights years AHEAD Better than the overpriced (150.00 anyone) ACE combat 6

ITS f_______ obvious

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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]Ac is dead if it doesn't come back to playstation but has an old fan of AC it does look good. Better than lair um no because their different. Hard to explain.rpgfan360

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only a fanboy would say that.

well only a fanboy would make and defend this topic. LoL so whats ur point.

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#21 rpgfan360
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OK THIS IS COMMON SENSE LAIR LOOKS 1,000,000,000 lights years AHEAD Better than the overpriced (150.00 anyone) ACE combat 6

ITS f_______ obvious

momma_s_BoY_ps3

its only 60.

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#22 Neal_Gore
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Lair doesn't look that good, a rental at most
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#23 ff7isnumbaone
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[QUOTE="momma_s_BoY_ps3"]

OK THIS IS COMMON SENSE LAIR LOOKS 1,000,000,000 lights years AHEAD Better than the overpriced (150.00 anyone) ACE combat 6

ITS f_______ obvious

rpgfan360

its only 60.

hes talking about with the special controller i think. But AC6 is dead franchise now.

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#24 Neal_Gore
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Ac is dead if it doesn't come back to playstation but has an old fan of AC it does look good. Better than lair um no because their different. Hard to explain.ff7isnumbaone

Any game is better than Final Fantasy including Pong

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#25 unknowndrk
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lol the funny thing is they said ace combat is a timed exclusive so both lair and ace combat will be on ps3 so why even compare?
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#26 SuperVegeta518
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I'm going to call them equal.
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#27 ff7isnumbaone
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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]Ac is dead if it doesn't come back to playstation but has an old fan of AC it does look good. Better than lair um no because their different. Hard to explain.Neal_Gore

Any game is better than Final Fantasy including Pong

whatever makes you sleep at night buddy.

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#28 Polaris_choice
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AC by far. Lair looks good but AC is one of the best looking games coming to consoles.PBSnipes

You guys are delustional. AC has extremley flat textures in comparison not to mention Lair has much more going on screen at the same time. If you read previews editors seem to be more impressed with Lair.

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#29 Eltroz
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lol the funny thing is they said ace combat is a timed exclusive so both lair and ace combat will be on ps3 so why even compare?unknowndrk
PS3 users keep on thinking AC6 is timed exclusive because of a rumor on OXM. It is exclusive to 360 not timed.

English offial website only showing 360 http://acecombat6.namcobandaigames.com/

japanesse official website showing only 360 http://www.acecombat.jp/ace6/index.html

The official press release only talking about 360 and never mentions PS3

http://www.namcobandaigames.com/news/press/press/199/page/1

Also gamespot, IGN, and 1up all have AC6 as 360 exclusive.

And PS3 say 360 users want their game. Seems goes both ways.

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#30 momma_s_BoY_ps3
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Ace Combat 6 will definitely come to PS3 aswell so Dont have any opinions to share

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#31 MikeE21286
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Lair.
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#32 Art_424
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Theres really no comparison, Lair looks blurrier and ACE has clean graphics, plus they are diffrent type of game, but on the graphics ACE owns.
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#33 ff7isnumbaone
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Theres really no comparison, Lair looks blurrier and ACE has clean graphics, plus they are diffrent type of game, but on the graphics ACE owns.Art_424

thats what I thoguht too.

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#34 momma_s_BoY_ps3
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[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"]

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]Ac is dead if it doesn't come back to playstation but has an old fan of AC it does look good. Better than lair um no because their different. Hard to explain.ff7isnumbaone

Any game is better than Final Fantasy including Pong

whatever makes you sleep at night buddy.

no game in the history can be compared to PSX's PEPSI-MAN

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[QUOTE="rpgfan360"][QUOTE="momma_s_BoY_ps3"]

OK THIS IS COMMON SENSE LAIR LOOKS 1,000,000,000 lights years AHEAD Better than the overpriced (150.00 anyone) ACE combat 6

ITS f_______ obvious

ff7isnumbaone

its only 60.

hes talking about with the special controller i think. But AC6 is dead franchise now.

Why? Is itbecause it's not on the PS3?
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#36 ATLBIinger
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So, the ground is like watching Google Earth in AC6? i can forgive it for that cause the action on screen will be amazing from the previews I've seen. Ground forces fighting eachother with hundreds of planes swooping past you.
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[QUOTE="rpgfan360"][QUOTE="momma_s_BoY_ps3"]

OK THIS IS COMMON SENSE LAIR LOOKS 1,000,000,000 lights years AHEAD Better than the overpriced (150.00 anyone) ACE combat 6

ITS f_______ obvious

ff7isnumbaone

its only 60.

hes talking about with the special controller i think. But AC6 is dead franchise now.

Because it's not on PS3? Pathetic comment. Infact, it will be more alive then ever via online play. Damn right I'm getting the Limited Edition. AC6 will be awesome.

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#38 AdrianWerner
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Lair has much more details, but also muh smaller scale and levels, so it;s not surprising.
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#39 rpgfan360
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bump.
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#40 Runningflame570
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Selective picking FTL.
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#41 Adrian_Cloud
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Don't bump, theres a reason why this thread is going out from the first page. IMO its Lair, but this really isn't a fair comparison. E3 is only a few weeks away, why not just wait till then?
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#42 lhughey
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AC6 looks much better from the pics. I haven't looked at the gameplay vids of AC6, however.
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#43 Kinitari
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Lair has much more details, but also muh smaller scale and levels, so it;s not surprising.AdrianWerner


The levels in Lair are hundreds of square miles. Plus I don't see the planes in Ace Combat flapping their wings.
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Realism vs Stylized fantasy?

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#45 mijkil
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Its quite bizarre really. Lair is pretty impressive on a technical level, but the net result looks like horrible.

Sad.

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I'm not too sure it's a fair comparison. For starters, a plane is a terribly simple thing to model, even with the flaps and all. At least, it's terribly simple compared to your average organic creature, not to mention an average monster. Compounding this, I don't think you're supposed to land on those buildings to take a look around in Ace Combat 6. At those distances anyone can make a building look good.

Not saying AC6 sucks or Lair rocks or anything like that. I just think it's an apples and oranges comparison... and both look hawt.

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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

It is not even close. AC6 blows away Lair. Also AC6 will have online.

P.S. you should have made this a poll thread.

OXIIIIXO

Look at the buildings in the AC6 pics, half of them are 3d and the other half is flat.

There are also more things going on in Lair than there are in AC6 and yet Lair looks better.

Just because I always try to help out other people I wanted to give you this link. http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Default.aspI think it may help after reading what you said.

I'm surprised you were able to find that site.

:lol: nice comeback.
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#47 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]lol the funny thing is they said ace combat is a timed exclusive so both lair and ace combat will be on ps3 so why even compare?Eltroz
PS3 users keep on thinking AC6 is timed exclusive because of a rumor on OXM. It is exclusive to 360 not timed.

English offial website only showing 360 http://acecombat6.namcobandaigames.com/

japanesse official website showing only 360 http://www.acecombat.jp/ace6/index.html

The official press release only talking about 360 and never mentions PS3

http://www.namcobandaigames.com/news/press/press/199/page/1

Also gamespot, IGN, and 1up all have AC6 as 360 exclusive.

And PS3 say 360 users want their game. Seems goes both ways.

theres a difference you silly lemming, cows arent going around filling up half the forums begging for ps3 games like you guys do, the hype for AC6 died whenthey showed the game, it doesnt look like what many fans were hoping for, in other words it doesnt seem to be taking advantage of all that unified RAM ;) the game looks very plain and unimpressive to be honest and i know and have seen 360 pull off better and more detailed textures than that.

make no mistake though, you will see this game on ps3. i will bookmark this thread if you like but the truth is nobody cares if it does, cus the game doesnt look that great and the series has been going downhill the past 2 games.
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#48 unknowndrk
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[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]lol the funny thing is they said ace combat is a timed exclusive so both lair and ace combat will be on ps3 so why even compare?Eltroz
PS3 users keep on thinking AC6 is timed exclusive because of a rumor on OXM. It is exclusive to 360 not timed.

English offial website only showing 360 http://acecombat6.namcobandaigames.com/

japanesse official website showing only 360 http://www.acecombat.jp/ace6/index.html

The official press release only talking about 360 and never mentions PS3

http://www.namcobandaigames.com/news/press/press/199/page/1

Also gamespot, IGN, and 1up all have AC6 as 360 exclusive.

And PS3 say 360 users want their game. Seems goes both ways.


I have a ps3 and 360 so sorry if I made you waste your time showing me links :P.