Achievement Points are NOT a Gimmick!

The following games show your percentage of completion or number of a collected item out of a number attainable.  What's silly is you don't need to get 100% to beat the game.  What a gimmick?!

Metroid Prime Series

GTA Series

Mario Games

Castelvania Games

Pikmin Games

GT series

Guitar Hero

Countless others...

Is developers putting in goals outside of beating the game a gimmick?  If it isn't, why are Achievement points called gimmicks by several people here?

its a gimmick. "I have more points than you". "I got all the achievements in Halo, I rule".

personally, I find it very sad and nerdy, MS is just tricking you into buying games you dont want, my friend buys some crap games, like the other day he bought 'Cars'. he said he just bought it for the achievements. how sad.

achievements is a gimmick.

it adds nothing to gameplay nor does it take anything away from it.
xxThyLordxx

Was finding the packages in GTA a gimmick? no

Points are not a gimmick, cows just try to find something to bash.

Getting 100% without needing to has existed long before achievement points... :|

A gimmick is "an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal."

-or-

"to equip or embellish with unnecessary features, esp. in order to increase salability, acceptance, etc."

I fail to see the validity of your argument...foxhound_fox

achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.FlawlessSeasons

exactly

theres only one bad thing about achievments- it alienates casuals. some people just want to go online without being called "teh n00bzor" cus they didnt beat the game.amcallister902

Now if they could be used for something other than a lame Old Spice contest, then I might be inclined to disagree with the TC.

Getting 100% without needing to has existed long before achievement points... :|

A gimmick is "an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal."

-or-

"to equip or embellish with unnecessary features, esp. in order to increase salability, acceptance, etc."

I fail to see the validity of your argument...foxhound_fox

I don't give a **** if I get some superficial points by doing some stupid crap like killing 54,000 zombies or answering all of Otis' calls. That's not fun, that's annoying, I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna be forced to do certain things in a game. I play games the way I've always done, my way. If I get some points while doing that, well goodie. In a game like Crackdown achievements make more sense. Keeping a car in the air for a certain amount of time and such. You don't get **** for doing it, but trying to reach that goal could actually be fun. Like trying to beat your own records (wheelies and whatnot) in San Andreas.
InsaneBasura

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.fixer293

exactly

t[QUOTE="fixer293"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.tranhgiang

exactly

t[QUOTE="fixer293"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.tranhgiang

exactly

No, it does not stroke my ego. Achievments are like a game within a game, like having a minigame.And to tell you thew truth, the only people I see who don't like achievments are cows who don't have them. If you think about it Achievments were around in the game world before 360. High score, beating the game. The only people who bash them are cows that don't have it.Think like finding the packages in GTA.

Nuff Said

t[QUOTE="fixer293"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.tranhgiang

exactly

[QUOTE="tranhgiang"]t[QUOTE="fixer293"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.Spartan070

exactly

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"]t[QUOTE="fixer293"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.Tulak_Hord

exactly

Achievement points and side activities are ompletely different in nature. extra objectives are additional content that is different from the story and provides an original experience. Acheivement points 'reward' players for playing throght the same old content, artificially lengthening the amount of time you spend playing the game without actually ADDING anything. Truewiseblade

Wrong, Some achievments are unlocked doing side activities. And to me unlocking achievments is a side activity. The only people who bash them are sony fanboys, but they  bash achievments, while they love their entitlements. Achievments and entitlements are the same thing. They just don't like achievments due to it being on 360.

Now if they could be used for something other than a lame Old Spice contest, then I might be inclined to disagree with the TC.

ihatebugers

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"]t[QUOTE="fixer293"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.smokeydabear076

exactly

Achievement points and side activities are ompletely different in nature. extra objectives are additional content that is different from the story and provides an original experience. Acheivement points 'reward' players for playing throght the same old content, artificially lengthening the amount of time you spend playing the game without actually ADDING anything. Truewiseblade

[QUOTE="Truewiseblade"]Achievement points and side activities are ompletely different in nature. extra objectives are additional content that is different from the story and provides an original experience. Acheivement points 'reward' players for playing throght the same old content, artificially lengthening the amount of time you spend playing the game without actually ADDING anything. Conker-Fan

Thats completely wrong.
Are you saying that killing 50,000 zombies in Dead Rising is not a side activity? Are you saying that finding all the COG tags in GeOW is not a side activity? come on! most games have about 200 points worth of stuff you have to do and the rest other stuff. 
In Dead Rising for instance, it tells you to use bare hands to many zombies. In COD they tell  you to only use a certain type of gun.  (both go for about 20 points)

Agreed

Achievement points are the greatest addition to gaming since the mod. What other feature could make Bomberman: Act Zero worth a rent?THE_KR1PT

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"]t[QUOTE="fixer293"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.Tulak_Hord

exactly

If anything achievements actually push you further. In Ninja Gaiden, I beat the game and unlocked arcade games, and old school ones.......now why should I try beating it on Very Hard or Master Ninja? Bragging rights? How many people here would have believed you if you posted that. Achievements push toward that. I never would have gone for gears on insane if there was no achievement for it. I would have stuck to hardcore, and continued the multiplayer. It is a lot of motivation. Tulak_Hord

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"]t[QUOTE="fixer293"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]achievements add a lot of replay value to games, I think Microsoft did a really good job on them.smokeydabear076

exactly

Achievements and gamerscore have revived that old arcade feeling. Thats a good thing :)TheCrazed420

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"]If anything achievements actually push you further. In Ninja Gaiden, I beat the game and unlocked arcade games, and old school ones.......now why should I try beating it on Very Hard or Master Ninja? Bragging rights? How many people here would have believed you if you posted that. Achievements push toward that. I never would have gone for gears on insane if there was no achievement for it. I would have stuck to hardcore, and continued the multiplayer. It is a lot of motivation. tranhgiang