Achievements > Trophies!

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#1 damedash122
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trophies are cool and i have been unlocking them! but the system sucks the platinum trophy counts towards ur % it should be a trophy you get after u get all of the others! the the way the trophies are set up are weird take for example Dead Space when u beat the game using only 1gun(plasma cutter) u receive 40points on ps3 u receive a gold trophy when u beat the game on impossible u receive the tier 3 engineer achievement for 150 points on 360 and a gold trophy on ps3 the point system is better because it shows that beating the game on the hardest difficulty was a lot harder than using one gun! because that 1 gun trophy can be atained on easy! the trophy variation should be changed! and the platinum shouldnt count towards your 100%

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#2 Silent-Hal
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Even if the system was better, trophies would still be an inferior reward system 'cause Sony hasn't bothered to make them mandatory.
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#3 ejstrup
Member since 2005 • 2192 Posts

That's one game.

I personally like trophies better

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#5 ReverseCycology
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Even if the system was better, trophies would still be an inferior reward system 'cause Sony hasn't bothered to make them mandatory.Silent-Hal

This.

Plus having the most bronze trophies than platinum, gold, silver trophies just makes you look like you're always in last place.

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#6 ejstrup
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Thats not Sony's or the trophy system's faults. Its 100% the developers fault. This thread fails.Cedmln

yeah, exactly... what happened to your avatar, ced? :P

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Even if the system was better, trophies would still be an inferior reward system 'cause Sony hasn't bothered to make them mandatory.ReverseCycology

This.

Plus having the most bronze trophies than platinum, gold, silver trophies just makes you look like you're always in last place.

are they not supposed to be mandatory as of 2009? Obviously they can't force it onto games that are near completion. Of course the trophy system would have been much better if it had been implemented from the beginning

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#7 DJCUEBALL
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Stop nit picking on every little detail geez. Enjoy the games! They both give you a "reward" for unlocking something so useless to anybody.
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#8 Spartan070
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That all dependson the game, some 360 games can be manipulated in similar fashion.
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#9 Sony-tha-champ0
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yea but:leveling up>Gamerscore

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#10 SapSacPrime
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Even if the system was better, trophies would still be an inferior reward system 'cause Sony hasn't bothered to make them mandatory. Silent-Hal

This thread should have been pronounced dead following this reply.

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#11 PS_John
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No not this again!!!

I prefer trophies

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#12 ALTAIR360
Member since 2006 • 1408 Posts

No not this again!!!

I prefer trophies

PS_John

we know :)

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#13 fenwickhotmail
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No shut Sherlock
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#14 Sony-tha-champ0
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No not this again!!!

I prefer trophies

PS_John
playstation jon!
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#15 Floppy_Jim
Member since 2007 • 25933 Posts

No not this again!!!

I prefer trophies

PS_John

PS_John? A thread about Trophies and Achievements? This reminds me of the greatest thread of all time.

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#16 NinjaMunkey01
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I am not too bothered how they deal trophies out, the real problem is that sony has not made trophies mandatory, neither have they made in game music mandatory. And I really like being able to listen to my own music in racing games as without good music I find racers boring, and playing warhawk to your own music is great too. If i have a good song it sometimes makes me play better :P
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#17 Tykain
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I prefer the trophy system, except that it's getting crap support from 3rd party devs.
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#18 elbow2k
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To each their own, I don't look at it in terms of, how many points am I getting for this trophie, I look at them as individual trophies. I think you can tell the difference, and importance of them better, such as a Gold trophy in contrast with a Bronze one.

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#19 torontomapleafs
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Trophies are utter crap. You can't even compare Trophies to Achievements. Of course some Cows are going to say they prefer Trophies but they just never saw how amazing achievements are or are just to big of a fanboy.

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#20 Rougehunter
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No not this again!!!

I prefer trophies

PS_John
Hey, hows it going trying to prove you own a 360?
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#21 PS_John
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

No not this again!!!

I prefer trophies

Rougehunter

Hey, hows it going trying to prove you own a 360?

I do have one!! infact I just got it back from the repair center again

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#22 Sony-tha-champ0
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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

No not this again!!!

I prefer trophies

PS_John

Hey, hows it going trying to prove you own a 360?

I do have one!! infact I just got it back from the repair center again

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

No not this again!!!

I prefer trophies

PS_John

Hey, hows it going trying to prove you own a 360?

I do have one!! infact I just got it back from the repair center again

gimme pics NAO!!!
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#23 ONLYDOD
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I would agree, now if Trophies were in every PS3 game it might be a different story. But that's not the case, so yeah Achievements > Trophies.
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#24 PS_John
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here's a pic

http://i27.tinypic.com/ae1xc2.jpg

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here's a pic

http://i27.tinypic.com/ae1xc2.jpg

PS_John

Dude.. that's the one you used last time. How 'bout a valid gamertag with some recent activity? Not the one you used when you asked someone to log in as you and play Halo 3.

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#26 Shadow_of_Kirby
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PS_John!

You're back!

And I get to witness it live this time!

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Skill Points>Both!
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#28 VoodooHak
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So anyway... even with multiplats with the achievements and trophies are pretty much 1 to 1, achievements can be shared outside of the console with ease since MS makes the data publicly available.

Sony doesn't even display your earned trophies on their own site. Along with the fact that not all games support them, this lends credence to the notion that trophies are an afterthought.

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#29 SOedipus
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The only reason I like achievements more is because it takes so damn long for the PSN id to load up if they have any trophies. I don't care for achievements or trophies, I just play the games.
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#30 BobHipJames
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Achievements and trophies hold no sway over me whatsoever.
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#31 Sony-tha-champ0
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here's a pic

http://i27.tinypic.com/ae1xc2.jpg

PS_John
a different plz!
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#32 Antwan3K  Online
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trophies are cool and i have been unlocking them! but the system sucks the platinum trophy counts towards ur % it should be a trophy you get after u get all of the others! the the way the trophies are set up are weird take for example Dead Space when u beat the game using only 1gun(plasma cutter) u receive 40points on ps3 u receive a gold trophy when u beat the game on impossible u receive the tier 3 engineer achievement for 150 points on 360 and a gold trophy on ps3 the point system is better because it shows that beating the game on the hardest difficulty was a lot harder than using one gun! because that 1 gun trophy can be atained on easy! the trophy variation should be changed! and the platinum shouldnt count towards your 100%

damedash122

your argument only shows the benefits of trophies over that of acheivements.. sure, in that one case, the acheivement system gave you two different point values for two tasks that would both receive gold trophies under the PS3 system.. but when you have a gamerscore of 8,567, the addition of 40 pts or 150 pts isnt really going to be readily noticable to another player who happens to glace at your score.. nobody is going to be readily able to notice how you're going for the "hard" acheivements or notice that little difference in points that you pointed out in your argument..

but with the trophy system, this info is instantly available.. gold trophies are obviously the "hardest" acheivements to get and every single one you have is a clear indication of how "hardcore" a player you are.. it's right there, in your face, and plain to see.. it's as simple and easy as seeing one guy having 1 gold trophy and another guy having 16 gold trophies.. this gives you a clear and instant indication about what type of "gamer" they are.. and this doesnt even include the incredibly rare platinum trophy.. acheivements cant compare in this regard..

are you the type of player that goes for nothing but "easy" achivements or do you always go for the "hard" acheivements.. simply looking at a gamerscore of 4,587 doesnt tell me this.. it just says that either you have played a large number of games and just got the "easy" acheivements in all of them or it tells me that you only have a handfull of games and you've acheived nearly everything in those few.. and what if you completed every sinlge task in a few of your games?.. does that score of 4,587 tell me that?.. no.. but a platinum trophy would..

and this doesnt even bring into account the leveling system which will award the "hardcore" players who continually go for the gold and platinum trophies with more % towards their next level while those who just go for bronze trophies with the occational silver will be slowed down in the leveling process and left behind... this once again provides yet another instant identifier of "gamer" scoring and skill...

for these reasons, trophies > acheivemenst imo...

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#33 damedash122
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having a 1000 is the same as a platinum! trophy system is flawed case closed! i have friends thathave more gold than me but i wont play every title for trophies only the good games!

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#34 Malta_1980
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honestly none interest me.... at least for now :)

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#35 -Reggaeton-
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hey, psst.

Having alot of trophies or achievements does not make your penis bigger.

IMO Achievements and trophies are useless. They should just stick to the oldschool "do this or find that and u will unlock this".

Why is it that these "gamer points" are so important nowdays?

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#36 Pariah_001
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((playingVideoGames)>(achievements&trophies))

I buy and play videogames for myself. Not for people to be shocked and awed by my rewards for beating them on certain difficulties and stipulations.

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#37 treelog82
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I will never understand the obsession with achievements and trophies. I don't care about them at all and to be honest I wish there was a way to keep games from notifying me when I unlock one. I'm always really into a game and then all of a sudden this stupid announcement shows up on my screen telling me I unlocked something I really dont care about.

This generation of gaming has the worst gimmicks Ive ever seen. What happened to just enjoying a good game without all this other crap they shove down our throats?

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#38 sumner1456
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Meh, atm trophies aren't so great, and tbh achievements are slightly better, even if they are only a tinge above average. The trophies will improve a lot more with the introduction of home and personal trophy rooms imo, they will look a lot more impressive than say, a number by your XBL name. That is ofcourse, WHEN home comes out, which still seems hazy to say the least.
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#39 bubnux
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Good gameplay>rewards or trophies
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#40 Jack-o-Thompson
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I'm starting to like trophies alot more now than when it first came out.