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#51 CAPSROGUE
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[QUOTE="nosedive7"]

Point being they seem to sell alot more software on the other systems. So it's no surprise with development costs being what they are, they would like a similar return on PS3 investment.

TheGrat1

*Gasp* Systems with higher install bases sell more software?! :o Whodathunkit?

I didn't know X360 had an install base 3 times the size of the PS3.

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#52 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="nosedive7"]

Point being they seem to sell alot more software on the other systems. So it's no surprise with development costs being what they are, they would like a similar return on PS3 investment.

CAPSROGUE

*Gasp* Systems with higher install bases sell more software?! :o Whodathunkit?

I didn't know X360 had an install base 3 times the size of the PS3.

No, but those number indicate that 360 owners will buy anything lol. Geez that list for the ps3 there is only 1 game on there beside cod4 that I would buy and that is Guitar Hero. Also there is a 13 game difference if I'm correct maybe 12, between the ps3 and 360. But really that list of games tells me that they need better games really, some people may buy dirt at $60 a shovel, but I'm not one of them.

Lmao at almost 3 million units of Kunfu Panda sold for the 360. Once again 360 owners will buy anything.

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#53 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="nosedive7"]

Ok same criteria for 360 and Wii

360-1.911 billion lifetime Activision sales

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=14&genre=&minSales=0&results=500&sort=Total

Wii-1.124 billion lifetime Activision sales

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&publisher=14&genre=&minSales=0&results=500&sort=Total&gr_i_ni

PS3-677 million lifetime Activision sales

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS3&publisher=14&genre=&minSales=0&results=500&sort=Total

SpruceCaboose
Point being?

If they pay Sony $500 mill out of that. Then I can see why they do not see the effort worth it to stay with Sony.
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#54 hy4k
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i personally see it as an empty threat but cows dont have to worry about any of the major franchises
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#55 TheGrat1
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[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

*Gasp* Systems with higher install bases sell more software?! :o Whodathunkit?TheGrat1

I didn't know X360 had an install base 3 times the size of the PS3.

No, but those number indicate that 360 owners will buy anything lol. Geez that list for the ps3 there is only 1 game on there beside cod4 that I would buy and that is Guitar Hero. Also there is a 13 game difference if I'm correct maybe 12, between the ps3 and 360. But really that list of games tells me that they need better games really, some people may buy dirt at $60 a shovel, but I'm not one of them.

Lmao at almost 3 million units of Kunfu Panda sold for the 360. Once again 360 owners will buy anything.

Kung Fu Panda was bundled.
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#56 GreyFoXX4
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Capcom ps3 sales 11 million

Capcom 360 sales 15 million

Kanomi ps3 sales 8 million

Kanomi 360 sales 7 million

Ubisoft ps3 sales 13 million23 games

Ubisoft 360 sales 23 million 40 games

Sega ps3 sales 6 million

Sega 360 sales 8 million

I'd say for the most part ps3 does pretty good across the board, some bad some good sales. But once again that list of games for the ps3 from Activision is shotty at best with for me anyway only 2 games worth purchasing.

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#57 rybe1025
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Capcom ps3 sales 11 million

Capcom 360 sales 15 million

Kanomi ps3 sales 8 million

Kanomi 360 sales 7 million

Ubisoft ps3 sales 13 million23 games

Ubisoft 360 sales 23 million 40 games

Sega ps3 sales 6 million

Sega 360 sales 8 million

I'd say for the most part ps3 does pretty good across the board, some bad some good sales. But once again that list of games for the ps3 from Activision is shotty at best with for me anyway only 2 games worth purchasing.

GreyFoXX4
Look again at your links. GTA is with Capcom and Oblivion with Ubisoft for example. Beside the fact VG Charts is not a good way to judge making a profit. There is a lot more that goes into it.
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#58 Cyberfairy
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Aight, so SOMEONE ELSE, (thanks to the guy who did it) posted the link you wouldn't. Now, you have a minimal amount of credibilty but none the less you have some. Now, explain why a price cut would increase the gains for SOny and Activision.

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The link he posted, but the other one corrected, had some minor typos in it which is why it didn't work. Stop attacking him now, please?

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#59 gamer620
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You sony fanboys who are calling out Activision on this should be applauding them. And I guarantee OTHER COMPANIES who have decided to stay off the record, have also called out Sony on this issue. Activision just happens to be the most prominent publisher and can be vocal about when they take a dump and people will listen. Why sony fanboys were going to "Boycott" activision because they are pushing for the PS3 to have a price cut is beyond me... (then again, i guess it is understandable given that you already paid full price and don't want to justify Sony making a smart business decision)

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#61 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Capcom ps3 sales 11 million

Capcom 360 sales 15 million

Kanomi ps3 sales 8 million

Kanomi 360 sales 7 million

Ubisoft ps3 sales 13 million23 games

Ubisoft 360 sales 23 million 40 games

Sega ps3 sales 6 million

Sega 360 sales 8 million

I'd say for the most part ps3 does pretty good across the board, some bad some good sales. But once again that list of games for the ps3 from Activision is shotty at best with for me anyway only 2 games worth purchasing.

Look again at your links. GTA is with Capcom and Oblivion with Ubisoft for example. Beside the fact VG Charts is not a good way to judge making a profit. There is a lot more that goes into it.

Hmm, good reason not to trust VGchartz huh lol.
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#62 GreyFoXX4
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Rockstar games ps3 sales 6 million

Rockstar games 360 sales 9million

Capcom ps3 sales5 million

Capcom 360 sales8 million

Those numbers are after taking away GTAIV

Also someone mentioned Kunfu panda was bundled, but wasn't there a Guitar Hero special aswell for the 360, along with a bundle that had Marvel Utimate alliance, aswell as a bundle with either cod2 or cod3? Man thinking of it now activision has had alot of games either bundled or a special deal ran with the 360 to help push sales. Dang wasn't there even a Tony Hawk bundle or deal with the 360 aswell. Geez

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#63 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="nosedive7"]

Ok same criteria for 360 and Wii

360-1.911 billion lifetime Activision sales

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=14&genre=&minSales=0&results=500&sort=Total

Wii-1.124 billion lifetime Activision sales

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&publisher=14&genre=&minSales=0&results=500&sort=Total&gr_i_ni

PS3-677 million lifetime Activision sales

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS3&publisher=14&genre=&minSales=0&results=500&sort=Total

rybe1025

Point being?

If they pay Sony $500 mill out of that. Then I can see why they do not see the effort worth it to stay with Sony.

Except that 500 mil is not only for the PS3 but also for the PS2 and the PSP.

PS2- 2.90 billlion

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS2&publisher=14&genre=&minSales=0&results=500&sort=Total&gr_i_ni

PSP- 135 million

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PSP&publisher=14&genre=&minSales=0&results=500&sort=Total

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#64 delta3074
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who cares what attitudevision does, they only have one good franchise in my mind.
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#65 Psycho_Slaye
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Real proof as to how much they made on the PS3. Not this "I looked at Activision games and multiplied by $50". That is not data. That is hogwash.SpruceCaboose
The only thing I see hogwash is your post. If you looked carefully on that site, you would of found the proper game sales tracking for the PS3. Or you just don't know what data really is?
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Ok so the owner of Activison says he may have to drop support for the PS3 and all of the Cows say that would be a dumb move due to the 20 million install base, and that does seem to be a reasonable argument until you look at the sales. Activision published games have earned at max worldwide lifetime software sales for PS3 is approximately 675 million. The owner said he had to pay nearly 500 million in royalties for LAST YEAR alone, so as you can see he has good reason for what he has said imo.

nosedive7

Those Royalties they paid covered PS2 and PSP as well.

How come everyone understands Activision, but no one has actually seen how greedy they are. Forget this for an istance, games like COD were created by Activision stealiing IW out from EA. GH bought and currenlty be milked to death. TONY HAWKS milkage, and now he's back with board to sell us, and the Lawsuits with BRUTAL LEGEND.

Activision sucks, and although they have to do what they have to do, they aren't concerned what we think of them, at all. Read up on BRUTAL LEGEND lawsuits.

In your own OP, ACTIVISION will lose 175 MILLION. No wonder their pissed, they wanted all 675 million!!!!...let's not forget the PS2 and PSP were apart of the 500 MILLION in royalties.

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#67 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="nosedive7"]

Ok so the owner of Activison says he may have to drop support for the PS3 and all of the Cows say that would be a dumb move due to the 20 million install base, and that does seem to be a reasonable argument until you look at the sales. Activision published games have earned at max worldwide lifetime software sales for PS3 is approximately 675 million. The owner said he had to pay nearly 500 million in royalties for LAST YEAR alone, so as you can see he has good reason for what he has said imo.

SolidTy

Those Royalties they paid covered PS2 and PSP as well.

How come everyone understands Activision, but no one has actually seen how greedy they are. Forget this for an istance, games like COD were created by Activision stealiing IW out from EA. GH bought and currenlty be milked to death. TONY HAWKS milkage, and now he's back with board to sell us, and the Lawsuits with BRUTAL LEGEND.

Activision sucks, and although they have to do what they have to do, they aren't concerned what we think of them, at all. Read up on BRUTAL LEGEND lawsuits.

In your own OP, ACTIVISION will lose 175 MILLION. No wonder their pissed, they wanted all 675 million!!!!...let's not forget the PS2 and PSP were apart of the 500 MILLION in royalties.

Good luck trying to get the mongoloids in here to understand that.

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#68 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Aight, so SOMEONE ELSE, (thanks to the guy who did it) posted the link you wouldn't. Now, you have a minimal amount of credibilty but none the less you have some. Now, explain why a price cut would increase the gains for SOny and Activision.

Cyberfairy

The link he posted, but the other one corrected, had some minor typos in it which is why it didn't work. Stop attacking him now, please?

There is no attack, you make a claim, you post a working link. When come and make up numbers and use your own calculations as well as misrepresent the facts, why should I not expect a working link? How about you address the point of the thread instead of acting like I'm the bad guy for expecting proof when I come into a thread as focused as this one.

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#69 nosedive7
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For those who say the royalties include PS2-how many games did activision make for PS2 last year? I didn't mention the PS2 or PSP because Activision's CEO didn't mention them. He was talking specifically about PS3 because undoubtedly PS3 development is costing them the most out of the PS family, and I doubt they are selling enough PS2 games at this point for that to factor in to last years royalties.

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#70 jack00
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That Activision guy is full of crap, first of all the ps3 user base keeps getting bigger by the day and there is not much of a difference between 360s and ps3s sold worldwide to make it worth mentionning, And second he doesn't have anything to complain about, he still made ****ing 178 millions in PROFITS, boohoo for that little **** face.
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#71 david_lck
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Maybe they should stop giving timed exclusive DLC to the other system if they want their games to sell better. -_-TheGrat1
Exactly, gamers with both the 360 and PS3 will most likely pick up the cheaper game that offers more value. This alone is a great reason for me to get the 360 but the RROD is pulling me back.