After 200 social 204 ranked and 59 custom matches-Halo 3 will score 9.7

Although it will eventually reach 7 million, not in the first week. At the peak I've seen it at, Halo 3 beta has had 120,000 people on. You would need 56 people for each beta player on at that time to buy Halo 3 in the first week for it to reach 7 million, not happening.

 4 Million is a realistic goal in my opinion. I do know 2 people who are going to pre order Halo 3 and they don't even have their Xbox 360s yet

i think it could get a 9.7 being a average that should have gotten a 7 or low 8 dident stop the others from selling like crazy and getting good scores

 

Arisugawa00

You forgot the In your opinion part.

multiplayer turns into nothing but people waiting for other people to get hurt in battle and then mopping up.

8.8 i say.

out0v0rder

[QUOTE="tree-branch"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]Keep dreaming. I'll wake you up when its released and you'll be sorely disappointed.XaosII

tell us why you think he will be disspointed?

It still seems as though Gears is considered the best graphical benchmark for the 360. Its possible, but pretty unlikely that it'll score a 10 in graphics now that Gears has upped the standards for the 360. And with Gears getting three 10's and two 9's for its 9.6 score, Halo 3 to out score it, would need a 10 in everything else. Thats a hell of a lofty score.

And 7 million in one week? We're looking at a 60-65% of the entire 360 userbase buying the game in one, single week. Yeah, ok. 

i think it could get a 9.7 being a average that should have gotten a 7 or low 8 dident stop the others from selling like crazy and getting good scores

 

Arisugawa00

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="out0v0rder"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="out0v0rder"]

multiplayer turns into nothing but people waiting for other people to get hurt in battle and then mopping up.

8.8 i say.

out0v0rder

 Not when there aren't many places to hide.  If you don't move you'll get clipped.  So it's more running hoping you run into someone from behind or in a gun fight.  But you beter be ready to return fire as there are other's running into you as well.

your right i forgot, its either wait for your battle to finish and get killed, or get shot in the back with dual spikers cuz it only takes 2 seconds to be killed but 3 seconds to turn around.

You must not be very good then.  I often kill a couple people (now that I'm getting better) and then sneak away to recharge the shield.  But yeah, when I was playing poorly I thought like you did as well.

My problem now is I can't snipe worth a rip.  I need some help with that, but other than that I'm doing good.

damn right i suck.i need a mouse.

I don't :-)

I've played 702 games and I agree with you.  I think it'll be even bigger than the first two.  People who complain about the controls are just no0bs, with sensitivity at 7 I can turn completely around in about half a second.  I can't wait to play the final version especially the campaign now that i've gotten a taste of multiplayer.THETRUEDOZAH

What's your level/rank?

Keep dreaming. I'll wake you up when its released and you'll be sorely disappointed.XaosII

Keep dreaming. I'll wake you up when its released and you'll be sorely disappointed.

The moral of the story, youre opinion has even less substance considering you havent even played the game 

[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]Keep dreaming. I'll wake you up when its released and you'll be sorely disappointed.d3thm0nkey

tell us why you think he will be disspointed?

It still seems as though Gears is considered the best graphical benchmark for the 360. Its possible, but pretty unlikely that it'll score a 10 in graphics now that Gears has upped the standards for the 360. And with Gears getting three 10's and two 9's for its 9.6 score, Halo 3 to out score it, would need a 10 in everything else. Thats a hell of a lofty score.

And 7 million in one week? We're looking at a 60-65% of the entire 360 userbase buying the game in one, single week. Yeah, ok.

Where are you people getting this notion as though im comparing it with PC titles? Why would I? I havent even mentioned PC or a PC game in any post i've made. Gamespot specifically rates each game on every system based on the standards of its own system. Otherwise every handheld game would receive sub 5.0 scores when compared to console/PC titles.

The reality is that Gears of War has set the bar for 360 titles, specifically shooters, rather high. I'd say a lot people would consider Gears to still be graphically superior to Halo 3 based on the beta. Would you say Halo 3 is deserving of a 10 in graphics alongside with Gears? Maybe. But the fact that theres doubt along a good deal of people makes it a bit hazy. And to keep its 9.7 score it would still have to score 10 in every other category. Not impossible.... But unrealistic.

And theres definitely no confirmation of 4 million preorders. 

anyone in this thread that is hating,and has not even played the beta-smack your b arse selfTHEKING1337

And yet here I am. I've played Halo 1 and 2 at a friend's house and my honest opinion? It's okay for a shooter. I've never understood the hype for this game due to the simple reason that it doesn't go in depth in most situations to where I'd consider an AAA game to go(Multi options, longer single player) and yet other shooter games on the Xbox console had gotten lower scores when the story there is obviously longer, the online capabilities are far more engaging with more weapons and vehicles, and about 3-4 more maps. 

It doesn't add up yet a lot of things in life rarely do. I don't think Halo deserves another AAA score, but due to history and the amount of hype that's circulating which means a lot of biased responses, I believe that's what it will achieve.  

I have no doubt that Halo 3 will be AAA, i just hope that the SP is as solid as the first one's was. Because while most people will be online 90% of the time, and rightly so, if they can make that 10% awsome...the game will sell itself... 

too bad they're reviewing the whole game and not the beta then, isn't it? plenty of room for things to go wrong.

7 million sold in the first week? is that a joke? halo 2 didn't even do that and there was a much bigger userbase.

CaseyWegner

and exceed expectations and change from the beta,

rmemeber the beta was not updated. the internal beta was. (bungie said oon the weekly update that there still having graphics updates 

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

too bad they're reviewing the whole game and not the beta then, isn't it? plenty of room for things to go wrong.

7 million sold in the first week? is that a joke? halo 2 didn't even do that and there was a much bigger userbase.

Educated_Gamer

and exceed expectations and change from the beta,

rmemeber the beta was not updated. the internal beta was. (bungie said oon the weekly update that there still having graphics updates 

Yeah but if it isnt a massive jump then it wont even get a 9.4..Im still thinking 8.9, it happened to Zelda.

[QUOTE="d3thm0nkey"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]Keep dreaming. I'll wake you up when its released and you'll be sorely disappointed.XaosII

tell us why you think he will be disspointed?

It still seems as though Gears is considered the best graphical benchmark for the 360. Its possible, but pretty unlikely that it'll score a 10 in graphics now that Gears has upped the standards for the 360. And with Gears getting three 10's and two 9's for its 9.6 score, Halo 3 to out score it, would need a 10 in everything else. Thats a hell of a lofty score.

And 7 million in one week? We're looking at a 60-65% of the entire 360 userbase buying the game in one, single week. Yeah, ok.

Where are you people getting this notion as though im comparing it with PC titles? Why would I? I havent even mentioned PC or a PC game in any post i've made. Gamespot specifically rates each game on every system based on the standards of its own system. Otherwise every handheld game would receive sub 5.0 scores when compared to console/PC titles.

The reality is that Gears of War has set the bar for 360 titles, specifically shooters, rather high. I'd say a lot people would consider Gears to still be graphically superior to Halo 3 based on the beta. Would you say Halo 3 is deserving of a 10 in graphics alongside with Gears? Maybe. But the fact that theres doubt along a good deal of people makes it a bit hazy. And to keep its 9.7 score it would still have to score 10 in every other category. Not impossible.... But unrealistic.

And theres definitely no confirmation of 4 million preorders. 

Compared to Gears of War, or even Unreal Tournament 3 which will be out around the same time, the graphics for Halo 3 look terrible by comparison. Logically reviewers are going to have to base their judgements on what Halo 3 offers over other 360 titles, which is hardly anything really. Compared to the number of gameplay modes in Unreal, Halo 3 wont even come close. In terms of single player, judging by the last two games, the franchise isnt very story driven, or at least it lacks an indepth storyline and solid character development and personalities, among other things.

Compared to Gears of War, or even Unreal Tournament 3 which will be out around the same time, the graphics for Halo 3 look terrible by comparison. Logically reviewers are going to have to base their judgements on what Halo 3 offers over other 360 titles, which is hardly anything really. Compared to the number of gameplay modes in Unreal, Halo 3 wont even come close. In terms of single player, judging by the last two games, the franchise isnt very story driven, or at least it lacks an indepth storyline and solid character development and personalities, among other things.DSgamer64

Sure graphics-wise the unreal engine is better;however, gameplay gears is not better.  it's different, but to me it's not as fun.  I like the duck and cover aspect of gears as that's a bit different, but other than that, it has nothing on Halo3.  And Halo3 is only a beta. 

The matchmaking in halo3 is far superior to anything epic can offer and that allows me to play more games online.  It takes forever with some games to find a good match.  That's time wasted that should have been spent playing.

Gears is fun when you're playing with friends, but when you play against random people it's not so fun.  Halo is fun everytime. And the more I play the more evenly the game becomes as I'm matched against like skilled players.  Many of my last few games have game down to everyone (except maybe one person) having a chance to win.

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]Compared to Gears of War, or even Unreal Tournament 3 which will be out around the same time, the graphics for Halo 3 look terrible by comparison. Logically reviewers are going to have to base their judgements on what Halo 3 offers over other 360 titles, which is hardly anything really. Compared to the number of gameplay modes in Unreal, Halo 3 wont even come close. In terms of single player, judging by the last two games, the franchise isnt very story driven, or at least it lacks an indepth storyline and solid character development and personalities, among other things.mikasa

Sure graphics-wise the unreal engine is better;however, gameplay gears is not better.  it's different, but to me it's not as fun.  I like the duck and cover aspect of gears as that's a bit different, but other than that, it has nothing on Halo3.  And Halo3 is only a beta. 

The matchmaking in halo3 is far superior to anything epic can offer and that allows me to play more games online.  It takes forever with some games to find a good match.  That's time wasted that should have been spent playing.

Gears is fun when you're playing with friends, but when you play against random people it's not so fun.  Halo is fun everytime. And the more I play the more evenly the game becomes as I'm matched against like skilled players.  Many of my last few games have game down to everyone (except maybe one person) having a chance to win.

Matchmaking seems pointless to me, the thing I love about Unreal is that you can just jump into a game and start having fun with the game instantly. Mind you the load times are sometimes a problem with the PC version, but you can play with anyone and that is what makes getting good at the game interesting, because you will never know who you are going to play against, you may be awesome at the game but someone will be better then you most of the time. Unreal on the PC is pretty much limitless, there is so much you can do with a huge variety of maps (at least 100 in 2004) and many different modes. The ECE mods for 2004 have vehicle CTF which was so much fun, or destruction derby type modes as well created by users. As to whether those sorts of things will be created for 360 users and will be possible across the PC-360 integration has yet to be known, but I think that when you are looking for a huge multiplayer experience, UT is the only way to go. The single player in 2004 wasnt that great, it was somewhat short but still very cool

I like what I have seen to some extent from Halo 3 Beta, but I want to see how the single player is, it better be as good as CE, because H2 was crummy by comparison.

Halo 3 only offers the same, mediocre gameplay found in the first 2 titles, and better first person shooters are already coming out on most of the other systems, not to mention the better shooters that have been out on the PC for 5+ years. 

Oh well, it's Halo, so it'll do and sell well regardless of how good it is.
Shpongle314

Why cant lemmings admit that Halo 3 is a rehash and will flop? The physics suck, the graphics look dated compared to Gears of War and pretty much every other next gen shooter that will come out.DSgamer64

[QUOTE="Shpongle314"]Halo 3 only offers the same, mediocre gameplay found in the first 2 titles, and better first person shooters are already coming out on most of the other systems, not to mention the better shooters that have been out on the PC for 5+ years. 

Oh well, it's Halo, so it'll do and sell well regardless of how good it is.
Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="d3thm0nkey"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]Keep dreaming. I'll wake you up when its released and you'll be sorely disappointed.DSgamer64

tell us why you think he will be disspointed?

It still seems as though Gears is considered the best graphical benchmark for the 360. Its possible, but pretty unlikely that it'll score a 10 in graphics now that Gears has upped the standards for the 360. And with Gears getting three 10's and two 9's for its 9.6 score, Halo 3 to out score it, would need a 10 in everything else. Thats a hell of a lofty score.

And 7 million in one week? We're looking at a 60-65% of the entire 360 userbase buying the game in one, single week. Yeah, ok.

Where are you people getting this notion as though im comparing it with PC titles? Why would I? I havent even mentioned PC or a PC game in any post i've made. Gamespot specifically rates each game on every system based on the standards of its own system. Otherwise every handheld game would receive sub 5.0 scores when compared to console/PC titles.

The reality is that Gears of War has set the bar for 360 titles, specifically shooters, rather high. I'd say a lot people would consider Gears to still be graphically superior to Halo 3 based on the beta. Would you say Halo 3 is deserving of a 10 in graphics alongside with Gears? Maybe. But the fact that theres doubt along a good deal of people makes it a bit hazy. And to keep its 9.7 score it would still have to score 10 in every other category. Not impossible.... But unrealistic.

And theres definitely no confirmation of 4 million preorders. 

Compared to Gears of War, or even Unreal Tournament 3 which will be out around the same time, the graphics for Halo 3 look terrible by comparison. Logically reviewers are going to have to base their judgements on what Halo 3 offers over other 360 titles, which is hardly anything really. Compared to the number of gameplay modes in Unreal, Halo 3 wont even come close. In terms of single player, judging by the last two games, the franchise isnt very story driven, or at least it lacks an indepth storyline and solid character development and personalities, among other things.

those are the best physics in the game? because i got news for you if you haven't seen crysis

the 4player co op however is one area crysis cannot excel 

Eh... from what i hear, there isn't much different from it separating it from Halo 2 (just like an upgrade from what we've seen), and the graphics aren't the calibur that Halo 1 and 2 were on the Xbox 1,... so i disagree.helium_flash

those are the best physics in the game? because i got news for you if you haven't seen crysis

the 4player co op however is one area crysis cannot excel 

voxware00

It should score higher than Halo 2. I'm gonna assume the single player will be better but I know it's already better in terms of multiplayer. I never really knew how muched I missed the AR til I played Halo 2 recently. Spawning with an SMG sux hardcore.waynehead895

Halo will probably will 9.1 -halo1= 9.7, halo2=9.4 see the pattern? I think for graphics they will get an 8 bcuz it didnt make a major improvement on tat-imo.

I don't like Halo 3,The x360 controller is really bad for headshots i would rather get a mouse or a keyboard or play F.E.A.R instead.

I'm not going to buy halo,i simply don't like it.

Bioshock FTW.

My prediction is that Halo 3 will score about 9.3 to 9.5, while it will trump Halo 2 first day sales and first week sales. Not 7 million worth, but possibly double.eastside49er

[QUOTE="eastside49er"]My prediction is that Halo 3 will score about 9.3 to 9.5, while it will trump Halo 2 first day sales and first week sales. Not 7 million worth, but possibly double.THEKING1337

You do realize that Halo 2 didn't sell that much and the install base of the Xbox was much better.  

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Eh... from what i hear, there isn't much different from it separating it from Halo 2 (just like an upgrade from what we've seen), and the graphics aren't the calibur that Halo 1 and 2 were on the Xbox 1,... so i disagree.THEKING1337

Oh so you played the Beta. You must be the definitive authority on what Halo 3 will score.

Honestly, I doubt you'd be able to pick the score GameSpot will give Halo 3 even if you played the finished product. 

In your little criticisms that haters are hating because they've not played the Beta, you failed to realize the logical contradiction of your argument. The game will be reviewed on things you haven't seen or experienced. Have you played the single player? That's kind of a huge factor in scoring 9.7. For you to say the finished product will score a 9.7 is just as irrelevent as others saying it won't.

And 7 million in the first week is a joke of an estimate. The 360 userbase is nowhere near large enough to generate those shorts of numbers, and the attach rate would have to be over 60%-70% for that to happen. Add the fact that it's likely many casuals will be waiting until reviews are in or Xmas approaches (the period of the largest consumption in the year) and your prediction seems extremely unlikely. I doubt it'll even match Halo 2's first day sale of 2 million. 

Why does everyone think that Halo 3 will flop because its graphics arn't that great? It could get a 5 in graphics and still get AAA..user_nat

True, but it can't get 9.7 if that happens, which I think is what more people are reacting to.

And in fact, if it got 5 in graphics, it would essentially need 10s in all other areas to achieve AAA (GameSpot final scores aren't always exactly their averages but their usually close).

[QUOTE="Shpongle314"]Halo 3 only offers the same, mediocre gameplay found in the first 2 titles, and better first person shooters are already coming out on most of the other systems, not to mention the better shooters that have been out on the PC for 5+ years.

Oh well, it's Halo, so it'll do and sell well regardless of how good it is.
Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Shpongle314"]Halo 3 only offers the same, mediocre gameplay found in the first 2 titles, and better first person shooters are already coming out on most of the other systems, not to mention the better shooters that have been out on the PC for 5+ years.

Oh well, it's Halo, so it'll do and sell well regardless of how good it is.
Shpongle314

just from the beta a can confirm the game will be AAA and 9.7-I have seen some real nice physics like when you die in the river on valhala your guns float down river for a bit,and all the new gadgets and gameplay, yes the graphics could use some polish,ALOT of polish...but I am playing in HD and I see the promise...so casey that is why Halo 3THEKING1337

just from the beta a can confirm the game will be AAA and 9.7-I have seen some real nice physics like when you die in the river on valhala your guns float down river for a bit,and all the new gadgets and gameplay, yes the graphics could use some polish,ALOT of polish...but I am playing in HD and I see the promise...so casey that is why Halo 3THEKING1337

I'm going to guess a score of 9.8.  That's right, 9.8!  The first scored a 9.7, so I think that's pretty reasonable.  The Beta is very good, and will recieve much improvement, so I'm not sweating graphics one bit.  The graphics will be good enough to flesh out the game play experience.  besides, the graphics are sweet as they are.

As a series Halo has come full circle.  Halo 3 is more like Halo, and that's a great thing.  The feel of the Warthog, the pacing, the melee, the weapons, and the design.  It's Halo through and through.:)

I don't care if anybody hates on this game.  Let them hate.  Let them think the PC still has a chance.  Let them think the PC is the king of FPS's.  Let them think that UT3 is better on PC.  They especially think Crysis is the be all end all.  Yeah the graghics.:|  Good for PC, which brings a better graphics card out nearly every six months.  Crysis had freeking better look the best!  Your mouse and keyboard are out!  There old.  Let the Sony haters think that Killzone has a chance.  Not!:D  Let the Haze developers hate on Halo.  Everybody wants to see the king fall, and can't deal with there dominance.

They all attack Halo like people used to attack Michael Jordan.  Why?  MJ was clearly better, and did most everything right.  He's the greatest of all time.  Halo as a series does most everything right for FPS's, so deal with it.  Halo may go down as the best FPS series ever.  It already has in my book.  Some see the right path, and know it.  Some are born with great taste.  Some people are born with bad taste.  That's life, what are you going to do?

Look at how many people buy Madden or NBA Live.:|  They just have bad taste.:(  End of story.  The people who recognize skill will go and buy All Pro Football 2K8 and NBA 2K8.:)

So good luck to all those poor souls that get suckered into the next Need For Speed, GTA clone, Madden, or Live title.  Good luck to those who pick up Call Of Juarez, Hour Of Victory, and Area 51.  Thanks.  Ahh, don't be to hard on yourselves.  The developers just have bad taste!:|

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

too bad they're reviewing the whole game and not the beta then, isn't it? plenty of room for things to go wrong.

7 million sold in the first week? is that a joke? halo 2 didn't even do that and there was a much bigger userbase.

TheOwnerOner

its beta,

Im sure the final release will be nothing less then an improvement.

exactly. Bungie isn't putting their best in the beta, they are smarter than that. 

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

too bad they're reviewing the whole game and not the beta then, isn't it? plenty of room for things to go wrong.

7 million sold in the first week? is that a joke? halo 2 didn't even do that and there was a much bigger userbase.

KAS3Y_JAM3Z

its beta,

Im sure the final release will be nothing less then an improvement.

exactly. Bungie isn't putting their best in the beta, they are smarter than that.