After all those months.... Did Scorpio actually deserve/live up to the Hype in the end?

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#51  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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It did exceed mine....I was mostly expecting a console with lots of brute force to please the power hungry people, those who value power a lot. And that is the console essentially, but it also appears to have been very meticulously planned as far as backward and forward compatibility is concerned. I can't wait to get my hands on it not just for new games, but I'm very stoked to see how it will beef up my existing favorites that I still play regularly.

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#52 SecretPolice
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@Epak_ said:

PC gamers owned for putting thousands of dollars into PC gaming and this $500 machine can play all games at 4k/60fps LMAO!

Oh man, run, hide, grab shield, you absolutely nailed it and hit'em where it Stings. I'll join you tho and say.... Mighty Scorpio gamers, the new Master Race, that'll get'em good. lololol :P

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#53 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Cows one month before Pro releases: "Sony can change the specs it will be just as powerful as the Scorpio"
Cows eight months before the Scorpio release: "Did it live up to expectations?" "No its a flop"

I'll never quite understand how things work here. lol

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#54 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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Better than expected for me. DF was very positive about the capabilities of Scorpio, but I'm most looking forward to the actual games which we'll see at E3. How they render, and what they look like. High hopes for this.

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#55  Edited By Syn_Valence
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No it was a massive flop. Look at the soon to be extinct lems running around scared. STOP OVER HYPING SHIT!!!!

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#56 BigBadBully
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To me it exceeded the hype, the support for 1080p was huge for me since earlier the wording was mostly beneficial for 4k. The continued support for keeping past games available so you're not stuck with keeping multiple consoles around(even getting better performance). Then learning about freesync and hdmi 2.1 vrr mode is nice to know Scorpio will benefit even more down the road with upcoming tech in tvs.

Scorpio will be nice a nice system that'll most likely keep me from getting MS or Sony's next gen systems and skip a gen.

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#57 Primorandomguy
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Spencer confirmed that official Scorpio unveiling will be at E3.

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#58 trollhunter2
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@nygamespotter: I was against the midgen revisions altogether, so maybe I'm slightly biased.

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#59 trollhunter2
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@blue_hazy_basic:

ugh -_-

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/why-arent-more-people-complaining-about-the-needle-33360375/

stop pls. Me pointing out facts about fanboys overhyping scorpio all year, based on MS PR =/= me being a cpw. Not every one that complaints is labelled cow y'know. I was against midgen revisions altogether

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#60 GarGx1
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@blue_hazy_basic said:

Cows one month before Pro releases: "Sony can change the specs it will be just as powerful as the Scorpio"

Cows eight months before the Scorpio release: "Did it live up to expectations?" "No its a flop"

I'll never quite understand how things work here. lol

I thought you'd have given trying to, by now.

Personally I just loving how many people appear to believe that an AMD APU with a 6Tflop output will do 4k/60fps with PC ultra settings. Some people just never learn.

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#61 DaVillain  Moderator
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Despite I'm not interested buying Scorpio, I will say that I was impress what I saw from a gamers prospective point of view I do hope Scorpio lives up to everyone's expectations. Scorpio is only for people who have 4KTV's or just to upgrade from there current Xbox One consoles. Even if you have 1080p TV's, it's not going to make a difference. 1080p is pretty much being passed up and 4K will be the norm in around 5 years or so. It's already happening on PC with ultra widescreen monitors, and more power GPUs.

I'm not a fan of upgrading consoles but I do think Scorpio should've been a next-gen console.

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#62 BlackShirt20
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It lived up beyond the hype from just the specs. But not paying $599 for it. They better get a good deal or it's a flop. Dead upon arrival.

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#63 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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@trollhunter2 said:

@blue_hazy_basic:

ugh -_-

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/why-arent-more-people-complaining-about-the-needle-33360375/

stop pls. Me pointing out facts about fanboys overhyping scorpio all year, based on MS PR =/= me being a cpw. Not every one that complaints is labelled cow y'know. I was against midgen revisions altogether

I was actually referring to the responses in this thread.

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#64 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@primorandomguy said:

Spencer confirmed that official Scorpio unveiling will be at E3.

That really is a shame. I was hoping to get everything hardware out of the way by E3, and make it all about games. Now we're probably going to have 10-15min about Scorpio. The show itself will also be 30min longer I thought so maybe it's alright

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#65 Pedro
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I can't believe people are still quoting prices beyond $500 for the system. There was absolutely nothing in the reveal that warrants such a proposition.

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#66 kingtito
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@trollhunter2 said:

@blue_hazy_basic:

ugh -_-

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/why-arent-more-people-complaining-about-the-needle-33360375/

stop pls. Me pointing out facts about fanboys overhyping scorpio all year, based on MS PR =/= me being a cpw. Not every one that complaints is labelled cow y'know. I was against midgen revisions altogether

Sorry but it was cows that were overhyping and talking about the Scorpio non stop. Scorpio turned out exactly what MS said it was going to be so how exactly could it have been overhyped when A) it hasn't be released and B) it turned out to be what they announced?

Cows were scared before and they'll be scared after.

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#67  Edited By Lucianu
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The marketing is good and attention on it is stretching wide amongst people with a lot of word of mouth to boot, i'll give it that. It all falls down on its price, because if it's 500$ or above, i guarantee that it will face a slow death. You can't sustain that piece of hardware via enthusiasts alone.

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#68 DaVillain  Moderator
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@FastRobby said:
@primorandomguy said:

Spencer confirmed that official Scorpio unveiling will be at E3.

That really is a shame. I was hoping to get everything hardware out of the way by E3, and make it all about games. Now we're probably going to have 10-15min about Scorpio. The show itself will also be 30min longer I thought so maybe it's alright

Spencer stated MS will talk everything there is to known about Scorpio on Sunday before the main E3 2017 starts, that day will be nothing but Scorpio details, price, release, and console reveal in one day. E3 2017 on the main day/week will be gaming related only and this whole event was well know awhile back. The Digital Foundry event was just to clear off some of the rumors on it's CPU.

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#69 Primorandomguy
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@davillain-: MS E3 presentation is on Sunday though.

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#70  Edited By tormentos
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@kingtito:

Cows over hyping scorpio that make sense..hahahaha..

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#71 kingtito
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@tormentos said:

@kingtito:

Cows over hyping scorpio that make sense..hahahaha..

Cows talk about it more than any other faction by far.....it's not even close so yeah, it does make sense.

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#72 oflow
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@kingtito: After E3...

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#73 StormyJoe
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@trollhunter2: I think we have to wait for it to be out, and see how the games look and run with it before anyone can make that determination.

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#74 speedfog
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

It's exactly what I thought it would be so far and what MS promised last year... its sounding good.

This, I don't know what people expected otherwise.

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@StormyJoe said:

@trollhunter2: I think we have to wait for it to be out, and see how the games look and run with it before anyone can make that determination.

Thank you! A questionable comparison and users posting charts and graphs they don't understand is not enough to draw a conclusion. Lets play the damn thing before we judge it!

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#76 Flyincloud1116
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@Pedro said:

I can't believe people are still quoting prices beyond $500 for the system. There was absolutely nothing in the reveal that warrants such a proposition.

This I agree with. From what was shown it should not be over $299.00.

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#77 jet052006
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Up to the announcement we had people saying the Scorpio wasn't going to be able to constantly be a 4k machine and saying it was going to end up just a stronger version of the pro, but from most signs 4k 30fps will be the norm and we have even seen it supposidly do 4k 60fps albeit on a rather old game but I doubt a couple months ago people would be thinking that's possible, so I believe it has met the hype and is the 6tf machine MS promised.

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#78 lifelessablaze
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It has a GTX 1070 equivalent power...it exceeded my expectations. You can be a jealous fanboy all you want, but this is definitely the console to own if you have a 4k TV

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#79 osan0
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its certainly a more worthy upgrade than going from the X1 or PS4 to the PS4 pro.

but if i had either console i still wouldnt bother upgrading. i would just wait for the PS5 or X2. its not enough of an upgrade.

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#80 Celsius765
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Cant say it lived up to the hype till its physical reveal and I see games utilizing the extra power. I'm optimistic at best for Xbox. If it could become a global box it'd be worth buying but most eastern devs aren't biting

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#81 ConanTheStoner
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Yeah, it seems MS made good on their end. Still need to see it in action with a variety of games, but it's looking to be a sweet ass machine. If you're a console only gamer and you have the funds for it, this should be your go-to box for multiplats.

Some fanboys over hyped it a bit, but that happens with literally every major console.

Personally though, still just meh. I already have a more powerful box for multiplats and power was never my issue with the Xbone.

Anyways, not complaining. MS doesn't force me to buy their consoles to play their games anymore and I'm cool with that.

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#82  Edited By EG101
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@GarGx1 said:
@blue_hazy_basic said:

Cows one month before Pro releases: "Sony can change the specs it will be just as powerful as the Scorpio"

Cows eight months before the Scorpio release: "Did it live up to expectations?" "No its a flop"

I'll never quite understand how things work here. lol

I thought you'd have given trying to, by now.

Personally I just loving how many people appear to believe that an AMD APU with a 6Tflop output will do 4k/60fps with PC ultra settings. Some people just never learn.

I don't think anyone expects "Ultra settings" in most games.

People expect High settings at 4K 30fps in most games. More than likely there will still be games that won't even hit 4K.

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@lrdfancypants said:

@SecretPolice:

I always play with peeing man.

I love getting him riled up on the fact I think racers are boring.

Sorry but you don't have pants fancy enough to rile me up :(

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@i_p_daily:

Do not address the Lord of pants that are fancy in such a tone!

:p. It's all in good fun.

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#85  Edited By blackace
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@trollhunter2 said:

Seeing those Digital Foundry videos, Scorpio sounds more like what the PS4 Pro is, but more powerful (it should be, launched a whole year later). Fanboys who said Ryze or Vega had unrealistic expectations from the System. Not to mention the slight bottleneck in sticking with Jaguar cpu

Edit.

My post is based on specs, just to clarify

There won't be any bottleneck problems with this customized Jaguar CPU. Microsoft went through several games and spoke to several developers to find all the most common bottleneck issue and created solutions on the Scorpio that would eliminate those bottleneck problems. The Jaguar CPU won't be using as much as it processing power as it does in the XB1S or PS4 Pro. Microsoft used the Jaguar to keep the cost down for the Scorpio. If they went with a Ryzen CPU the price of the Scorpio would probably be close to $800.

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@Epak_ said:

PC gamers owned for putting thousands of dollars into PC gaming and this $500 machine can play all games at 4k/60fps LMAO!

I won't lie. I am looking forward to comparisons between Scorpio , PC and PS4 Pro for multiplat games in December. Can't wait for DF to dig right in and compare games like Red Dead Redemption and SW Battlefront 2. Should be a lot of fun. SW will be the place to be come December.

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@lrdfancypants said:

@i_p_daily:

Do not address the Lord of pants that are fancy in such a tone!

:p. It's all in good fun.

I know dude.

At least i know what the lrd (i didn't take much notice of it) in your name means now lol

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@Epak_ said:

PC gamers owned for putting thousands of dollars into PC gaming and this $500 machine can play all games at 4k/60fps LMAO!

Yeah 95% of the games wont be 60fps.

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#88 lrdfancypants
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@i_p_daily:

Everyone needs a leader :)

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@lrdfancypants: Not me i'm an army of one, and besides who's your leader then???

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#90 Pedro
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@ten_pints said:
@Epak_ said:

PC gamers owned for putting thousands of dollars into PC gaming and this $500 machine can play all games at 4k/60fps LMAO!

Yeah 95% of the games wont be 60fps.

That statement as true as the absolute opposite.

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#91  Edited By lrdfancypants
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@i_p_daily:

My wife wears the fancy pants in my house. :(

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#92 lamprey263
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I feel the wait though is to make that beefier system affordable, I mean they could have built a beefy machine a year ago, but it would have been more expensive, it would be a big mistake if we had to wait this long for anything over $400, but if it hits $400 then I think it could do pretty well.

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#93  Edited By GarGx1
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@EG101 said:
@GarGx1 said:
@blue_hazy_basic said:

Cows one month before Pro releases: "Sony can change the specs it will be just as powerful as the Scorpio"

Cows eight months before the Scorpio release: "Did it live up to expectations?" "No its a flop"

I'll never quite understand how things work here. lol

I thought you'd have given trying to, by now.

Personally I just loving how many people appear to believe that an AMD APU with a 6Tflop output will do 4k/60fps with PC ultra settings. Some people just never learn.

I don't think anyone expects "Ultra settings" in most games.

People expect High settings at 4K 30fps in most games. More than likely there will still be games that won't even hit 4K.

Reasonable and sensible people, like you and me, expect 4k/30fps and high settings (let's be honest though high settings may be pushing it a bit)

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Until MS gets their shit together in terms of investing in 1st party games, I honestly do not care about Scorpio.

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#95 Blazed
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@Juub1990 said:

It's gonna be a legit 4K console. What else did you think it would be?

There's no boubt Lemmings over hyped the Scorpio. It didn't live up to the hype.

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#96 Epak_
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@ten_pints: Bu bu bu bu but they promised!

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@i_p_daily: @lrdfancypants:

lolol That exchange was nuttin but chuckle city for me, thanks..

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@SecretPolice:

I'm back!

I was banished by my wife to stand in the corner in silence wearing corduroy pants for hours!

I escaped.

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#99  Edited By ronvalencia
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@trollhunter2 said:

Seeing those Digital Foundry videos, Scorpio sounds more like what the PS4 Pro is, but more powerful (it should be, launched a whole year later). Fanboys who said Ryze or Vega had unrealistic expectations from the System. Not to mention the slight bottleneck in sticking with Jaguar cpu

Edit.

My post is based on specs, just to clarify

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/295830/QA_With_Scorpio_rising_Phil_Spencer_looks_to_the_future_of_Xbox.php

Sometimes I get in trouble when I talk about Sony too much, but, the choice they made on PS4 Pro, I totally get that choice, from their perspective and what they wanted to go do. I've said it publicly and I've said it privately, I think they've built a good 2016 PS4 Pro. With the silicon that was available, they picked the parts that made sense to go and put together a console in 2016.

But the point on not wanting framerate to drop when you go to the higher box, right, if the developers want to push resolution, to say to the player 'here you bought this higher-end console, let me show you higher-end resolution,' you don't want the framerate to drop. And that was something we didn't think we could deliver with the silicon that was available in 2016.

So some of it was time, as certain things come down in price -- some of them not as quickly as we would like. And some of it was hardware capability from our silicon partners, that allowed us to go do that in 2017.

Phil Spencer statement for AMD's year 2017 silicon, hence it's not yet another RX-480 Polaris 10.

Vega 10 has 64 CU not Scorpio's 44 CU (40 enabled and 4 disabled).