After Gamers Day I think the PS3 is starting to live up to the hype. NO 56K!!

[QUOTE="karicha9"]

Live up to the hype?

You only get one chance to do that.  It either lives up to the hype, or doesn't.  It can't EVENTUALLY live up to it. 

blackace

I agree. It had a couple of months after to launch to live up the the "hype" and it didn't. It doesn't get 2 -3 more chances to finally live up to the hype. So far, only the Wii has truly lived up to the hype that got generated at the E3. Sony's PS3 hype fizzled at the E3 and then fizzled right after the launch.

Most of the games list above have already been know for the past 2 years. These games have been hyped forever. Now we are still waiting for them to be released to see if they actually live up to all the hype they got.

Oh please,by that logic the 360 didn't live up to its hype either.Gears of War was the first graphicly impressive game on the 360,and it came out almost a year after the 360 launch.

The PS3 is more than living up to the hype now,deal with it the games are only going to be looking better and better.

It can't EVENTUALLY live up to it. karicha9

Yes it can. Think of the PS3 as a slow-burning movie, except you're walking in at the best bits.

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

 those games only need to be finished

xbox360 fans think those games will ship tomorrow

 

keep dreamin lads

dopepackmack420

xbox360 owns ps3 get over it, you paid 600$ for blu ray movie player not a next gen game console.

so which games let you have custom soundtracks on ps3? oops i forgot ps3 doesnt support that, not next gen lol.

What??  Which console has next gen disc media?  Which console has next-gen outputs like HDMI and its latest version? Which consoles have tried something new in the way of controls by implementing motion sensing?

Seems to me, 360 is missing some pieces that are part of "next gen."  Aweful try dopepackmack4

[QUOTE="karicha9"]It can't EVENTUALLY live up to it. -Spock-

Yes it can. Think of the PS3 as a slow-burning movie, except you're walking in at the best bits.

But I guess I see what's going on here.  Sony says next-gen doesn't start until they say so.  Cows say that PS3 can meet the hype at a time of their own discretion.

[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]It can't EVENTUALLY live up to it. karicha9

Yes it can. Think of the PS3 as a slow-burning movie, except you're walking in at the best bits.

But I guess I see what's going on here.  Sony says next-gen doesn't start until they say so.  Cows say that PS3 can meet the hype at a time of their own discretion.

Why not, when you're going to run the show?  Come on, the "next-gen" started when MS came out a year too early with inferior hardware.

Why not, when you're going to run the show? Come on, the "next-gen" started when MS came out a year too early with inferior hardware.

dubvisions

Again, this has nothing to do with hype.  PS3 has underperformed.  It's like Sheep saying that Zelda:TP didn't meet hype, but let's forget about that, because the next Zelda certainly will. 

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]

3 games?!?!?!?!

NO WAY!!!!!!

What an amazing amount of fun to have, and all for only 600 dollars!

Dr_DudeMan

The average person with a life doesn't need 3 games a month.

Actually they would, look at ps2 when it was young, and look at its adoption rate as well as its attachment rate...

What features in the ps3 does no one want? And with inflation the price point of the two at launch were identical. (You might be a little to young to understand inflation though).

What on earth are you talking about? Inflation has made $300=$600 in just 6 years? Last time I checked the minimum wage is virtually the same as it was back when the Ps2 was released.

[QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]It can't EVENTUALLY live up to it. dubvisions

Yes it can. Think of the PS3 as a slow-burning movie, except you're walking in at the best bits.

But I guess I see what's going on here.  Sony says next-gen doesn't start until they say so.  Cows say that PS3 can meet the hype at a time of their own discretion.

Why not, when you're going to run the show?  Come on, the "next-gen" started when MS came out a year too early with inferior hardware.

XBOX 360 has games!

/thread

I *heart* Nariko.  

[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]It can't EVENTUALLY live up to it. karicha9

Yes it can. Think of the PS3 as a slow-burning movie, except you're walking in at the best bits.

But I guess I see what's going on here.  Sony says next-gen doesn't start until they say so.  Cows say that PS3 can meet the hype at a time of their own discretion.

The PS2 also under-performed in its first six months. It only began to pick up steam once GT3 arrived (which sold upwards of 14 million copies, making it the best selling exclusive PS2 game of all time).

And I wouldn't listen to Sony marketing BS like that. The more you listen to the negativity of the company, the more it starts to affect your views of the console, which should never happen.

Trust me, once more games start to be released near the end of the year and the biggest exclusives like MGS4 and FFXIII are on shelves, sales will pick up. It will at least manage to turn around public opinion (because yes, I agree with you that it didn't meet hype, but at least it's getting better).

[QUOTE="Amnesiacx"][QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="treyeumph"]

Here is another HS picture that is up there with the best of them. fanboys can not deny the beauty of this picture. To know its in game is crazy.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/781/781495/heavenly-sword-20070507011359199.jpgthehiddendoubt

WTF looks like my cousin

Can I have your cousins number? 

lol, that exactly what I was thinking. Glad i'm not the only one.

 lol, she is a drama queen, i doubt you could stand her.

The PS2 also under-performed in its first six months. It only began to pick up steam once GT3 arrived (which sold upwards of 14 million copies, making it the best selling exclusive PS2 game of all time).

And I wouldn't listen to Sony marketing BS like that. The more you listen to the negativity of the company, the more it starts to affect your views of the console, which should never happen.

Trust me, once more games start to be released near the end of the year and the biggest exclusives like MGS4 and FFXIII are on shelves, sales will pick up. It will at least manage to turn around public opinion (because yes, I agree with you that it didn't meet hype, but at least it's getting better).

-Spock-

I'm not saying the PS3 is hype, I just disagree with people saying that maybe now the PS3 will live up to the hype.  The problem is that it was hyped to be great from launch.  If people want to say that it's turning out to be a decent console, that's fine, but let's not get too carried away.

[QUOTE="dopepackmack420"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

those games only need to be finished

xbox360 fans think those games will ship tomorrow

 

keep dreamin lads

Dr_DudeMan

xbox360 owns ps3 get over it, you paid 600$ for blu ray movie player not a next gen game console.

so which games let you have custom soundtracks on ps3? oops i forgot ps3 doesnt support that, not next gen lol.

Clearly if you new anything about hardware you wouldnt make such retarded claims... 

Clearly if you knew how to spell "knew" your posts would seem a lot more intelligent.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

Why not. The 360 sure as hell was not recieved well until nearly A YEAR after it's launch. It TAKES TIME to get good games out, just as it did for the 360. Not to even mention all of the LEMON 360's due to shoddy hardware....which is an issue that is STILL not resolved. But you expect the PS3 and all the devs to just deliver on the spot, and have all of it's great games out within the first six months? LOL...ridiculous, and highly impractical.

It took the 360 a while to flex it's muscles, even with shoddy hardware, but it rocks right now. The PS3 needs at least a year as well. Let's be fair here, man. What are you, a robot? You cannot just say, "It's failure is automatic because it did not live up to the hype from day 1, therefore it cannot, and will not succeed.", lol. Talk about a CLOSED, one track mind....sheeesh.

Anyway, by the time that the PS3 is a year old, it will have MORE than a solid line-up of games availible....with plenty more to come. The rest of this year, starting in June with NG Sigma looks fantastic for the PS3. It just took six months to get here, which is very reasonable, as the people behind all of this are indeed HUMAN, afterall. The PS3 will head into next year with the inclusion of HOME, along with a superb line-up of games. Also do not forget to add the anticipation of 2 of it's heaviest hitters to come in 08'. Namely FFXIII, and MGS4. How is that not living up to the hype?

The PS3 is going to have PLENTY on the table going into next year and beyond, and I for one cannot wait.

karicha9

And you also can't delay the deadline for hype expectation.  How many times are we going to have to ignore previous hype just so cows can hype the next big thing?

All consoles get hyped from the respective interested parties, so your point is moot. 360 did not live up to it's hype right off the bat, but it rocks now.....despite the still unresolved faulty hardware issues. The Wii did live up to it's initial hype, but has the worse library now of any of the 3. And yes, the PS3 did not live up to it's hype either....I agree. However, it has only been 6 months, therefore, you cannot expect a slew of AAA titles to already be out, lol. If your expectations are that high, then you are going to be let down everytime....guaranteed.

Beings that the PS3 is getting ready to deliver after 6 months, which is a reasonable time frame, I do not see the problem. Why dwell on the fact that it had a bad start when great things are on the horizon? Now if it was already a year old, and it only had the games out that are out now, I would be upset as well, but this is not the case now, is it? 

The bottom line is that it has only been 6 measly months, and starting with NG Sigma in June, the PS3 is going to ride out the rest of this year, and into next year with a load of quality content. Not just with the games either, but a little thing called HOME as well. So why only focus on the negative of 6 months ago when it is done and over with, and the PS3 is finally giving people a VARIETY of reasons to be excited? The only reason you would continue to be so negative is because you just want to demean the PS3 still, and this is the only way that you know how now, because the "it has no games" accusation does not hold weight any longer.

[QUOTE="dubvisions"][QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]It can't EVENTUALLY live up to it. Khansoul

Yes it can. Think of the PS3 as a slow-burning movie, except you're walking in at the best bits.

But I guess I see what's going on here.  Sony says next-gen doesn't start until they say so.  Cows say that PS3 can meet the hype at a time of their own discretion.

Why not, when you're going to run the show?  Come on, the "next-gen" started when MS came out a year too early with inferior hardware.

XBOX 360 has games!

/thread

Really, besides Gears of War, what exclusive does the 360 have that's so sweet??

3 games?!?!?!?!

NO WAY!!!!!!

What an amazing amount of fun to have, and all for only 600 dollars! 

MCGSMB

[QUOTE="axt113"]Kotaku says Lair and HS look like flopse20Dylan

LOL i can only guess what u look like

People say I look like Shah Rukh Khan with glasses

[QUOTE="MCGSMB"]

3 games?!?!?!?!

NO WAY!!!!!!

What an amazing amount of fun to have, and all for only 600 dollars! 

Blanco98

I know, I know.  Lemmings are so quick to throw out the "360 has games" argument.  But the funny thing is that most of the 360 titles are crap.  Even if PS3 had most of those games I wouldn;t touch them, what a waste.

[QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]

3 games?!?!?!?!

NO WAY!!!!!!

What an amazing amount of fun to have, and all for only 600 dollars!

Aljosa23

The average person with a life doesn't need 3 games a month.

Actually they would, look at ps2 when it was young, and look at its adoption rate as well as its attachment rate... 

Ummm, PS2 the next gen Movie player

All consoles get hyped from the respective interested parties, so your point is moot. 360 did not live up to it's hype right off the bat, but it rocks now.....despite the still unresolved faulty hardware issues. The Wii did live up to it's initial hype, but has the worse library now of any of the 3. And yes, the PS3 did not live up to it's hype either....I agree. However, it has only been 6 months, therefore, you cannot expect a slew of AAA titles to already be out, lol. If your expectations are that high, then you are going to be let down everytime....guaranteed.

Beings that the PS3 is getting ready to deliver after 6 months, which is a reasonable time frame, I do not see the problem. Why dwell on the fact that it had a bad start when great things are on the horizon? Now if it was already a year old, and it only had the games out that are out now, I would be upset as well, but this is not the case now, is it?

The bottom line is that it has only been 6 measly months, and starting with NG Sigma in June, the PS3 is going to ride out the rest of this year, and into next year with a load of quality content. Not just with the games either, but a little thing called HOME as well. So why only focus on the negative of 6 months ago when it is done and over with, and the PS3 is finally giving people a VARIETY of reasons to be excited? The only reason you would continue to be so negative is because you just want to demean the PS3 still, and this is the only way that you know how now, because the "it has no games" accusation does not hold weight any longer.

ironcreed

The reason why the bad start is dwelled on is because good things have ALWAYS been on the horizon for the PS3.  We've been hearing this ever since before launch.  It was supposed to have a decent launch; it didn't.  You can't just take away that hype now.

All 360 has is that it came out early.  Without that lead it would be dead in the water.  That's why they rushed the release so much.  I mean, come on.  How in the heck in MS going to make a system with that killer power supply.  And the heat and noice, WHEW, that baby cooks.  But it does have rumble in the controllers, how forward thinking.  It's HD but had no HDMI, until the "Elite", and no next-gen disc media.

Lemmings better hope things don;t progress too much here.  If so, there isn't much room to grow.  Have fun buying a new system within the next 3 years, whether it's 360 or PS3.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

All consoles get hyped from the respective interested parties, so your point is moot. 360 did not live up to it's hype right off the bat, but it rocks now.....despite the still unresolved faulty hardware issues. The Wii did live up to it's initial hype, but has the worse library now of any of the 3. And yes, the PS3 did not live up to it's hype either....I agree. However, it has only been 6 months, therefore, you cannot expect a slew of AAA titles to already be out, lol. If your expectations are that high, then you are going to be let down everytime....guaranteed.

Beings that the PS3 is getting ready to deliver after 6 months, which is a reasonable time frame, I do not see the problem. Why dwell on the fact that it had a bad start when great things are on the horizon? Now if it was already a year old, and it only had the games out that are out now, I would be upset as well, but this is not the case now, is it?

The bottom line is that it has only been 6 measly months, and starting with NG Sigma in June, the PS3 is going to ride out the rest of this year, and into next year with a load of quality content. Not just with the games either, but a little thing called HOME as well. So why only focus on the negative of 6 months ago when it is done and over with, and the PS3 is finally giving people a VARIETY of reasons to be excited? The only reason you would continue to be so negative is because you just want to demean the PS3 still, and this is the only way that you know how now, because the "it has no games" accusation does not hold weight any longer.

karicha9

The reason why the bad start is dwelled on is because good things have ALWAYS been on the horizon for the PS3.  We've been hearing this ever since before launch.  It was supposed to have a decent launch; it didn't.  You can't just take away that hype now.

Yes, I do agree that it had a bad launch, because it did, lol. So did the 360, but no one is concerned with that NOW, are they? So, yet again, your point is moot, friend. Just like the 360, the PS3 had a bad start, but it has PLENTY on the table now, so it's slow launch in no way makes it a permanent failure, lol.....sorry.:)  

Besides, for someone who seems to like to dwell on lack-luster launches, I don't see you dwelling on the 360's bad start, only the PS3's....why is that I wonder? Maybe because you just want to bash the PS3 in any way you can, while completely ignoring anything positive about it? Maybe it is pure damage control because of the latest string of good news, and the stirring of people's excitment over some KILLER looking exclusives that are just around the corner? Newsflash, people are not going to care about the launch a SHORT SIX MONTHS AGO because the PS3 will be delivering that which it was made for....great games. Same thing happened when the 360 got great games....same scenario here. Get over it.

Anyway, now that the PS3 IS starting to live up to it's hype, I am according to your logic, supposed to just abandon the PS3 because it did not live up to it's hype at launch? Sorry, but I have a little more patience than that. I knew it would be awhile before the PS3 got on it's feet, as it always takes ANY CONSOLE some time to prove itself.:roll: I knew what I was buying, and why, and the rest of this year, and into next will be worth the purchase. 

Again, 6 months is a reasonable amount of time to wait for a console to start producing some quality titles, and the PS3 is going to deliver in spades. So, if you want to keep bashing the PS3 because of it's bad launch 6 months ago, go right ahead, lol. Meanwhile, the rest of us who are PS3 afficiandos will enjoy it for the reason we bought it....great games. Who cares about a bad launch, if the system ultimately produces what you bought it for? Again....360 as an example.....except the PS3 does not breakdown everytime you decide to move it an inch.;)    

I agree, PS3 is starting to show its technological edge. That stuff out of Gamers Day (especially Uncharted, holy cow!) is beginning to make a compelling argument, if not for buying a PS3 now, then for beginning to save up for one. Funny thing is, I remember when the game was still called "unnamed Naughty Dog title," and it was the single most promising PS3 title in my opinion; but without a name it was hard to draw a crowd. I'm glad that it seems to be living up to its hype. I predict that people are going to be disappointed with both Lair and Heavenly Sword, but Uncharted is the type of game that makes me pay really close attention.WeeWeeJumbo

I thought the original trailer for Uncharted was cool, but I didn't really get an idea of what the game was all about.  Once ND explained the whole "three pillars" thing and I saw actual gameplay, it clicked for me. 

After seeing the new footage on IGN I must say I am blown away by the graphical quality in heavenly sword, uncharted drake, and lair.  HS art direction, lighting, character models, scale are amazing.  Quite possibly the best character model I have seen in a game.  check out the comparison with the 2005 CGi picture vs the 2007 in game cutscene picture. 

Lair on the other hand, regardless of its shaky gameplay mechanics, cant be denied as an amazing display of graphics and is currently meeting the the qualtiy of the graphics when first shown.

And finally Drake, next to crysis, has some of the best enviornments Ive seen in a game.  Is PS3 finally starting to live up to the hype? personally, I think HS, Lair, and Drake are on Gears of War level of graphics.

I'll be the first to admit, currently PS3 has crap for games and 360 versions of games look better and run smoother, however, the first party stuff, ratchet, little big planet, drake, lair, HS, warhawk, are up there with the best of them and show lots of promise for the future. 

 

Drake footage

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/812/812550/vids_2.html

 

treyeumph

Agreed. The graphics are amazing, but the graphics arent why i am being drawn into it...slowly. Its the games. I'm still on the fence as to what console i want though

[QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="ironcreed"]

All consoles get hyped from the respective interested parties, so your point is moot. 360 did not live up to it's hype right off the bat, but it rocks now.....despite the still unresolved faulty hardware issues. The Wii did live up to it's initial hype, but has the worse library now of any of the 3. And yes, the PS3 did not live up to it's hype either....I agree. However, it has only been 6 months, therefore, you cannot expect a slew of AAA titles to already be out, lol. If your expectations are that high, then you are going to be let down everytime....guaranteed.

Beings that the PS3 is getting ready to deliver after 6 months, which is a reasonable time frame, I do not see the problem. Why dwell on the fact that it had a bad start when great things are on the horizon? Now if it was already a year old, and it only had the games out that are out now, I would be upset as well, but this is not the case now, is it?

The bottom line is that it has only been 6 measly months, and starting with NG Sigma in June, the PS3 is going to ride out the rest of this year, and into next year with a load of quality content. Not just with the games either, but a little thing called HOME as well. So why only focus on the negative of 6 months ago when it is done and over with, and the PS3 is finally giving people a VARIETY of reasons to be excited? The only reason you would continue to be so negative is because you just want to demean the PS3 still, and this is the only way that you know how now, because the "it has no games" accusation does not hold weight any longer.

ironcreed

The reason why the bad start is dwelled on is because good things have ALWAYS been on the horizon for the PS3.  We've been hearing this ever since before launch.  It was supposed to have a decent launch; it didn't.  You can't just take away that hype now.

Yes, I do agree that it had a bad launch, because it did, lol. So did the 360, but no one is concerned with that NOW, are they? So, yet again, your point is moot, friend. Just like the 360, the PS3 had a bad start, but it has PLENTY on the table now, so it's slow launch in no way makes it a permanent failure, lol.....sorry.:)  

Besides, for someone who seems to like to dwell on lack-luster launches, I don't see you dwelling on the 360's bad start, only the PS3's....why is that I wonder? Maybe because you just want to bash the PS3 in any way you can, while completely ignoring anything positive about it? Maybe it is pure damage control because of the latest string of good news, and the stirring of people's excitment over some KILLER looking exclusives that are just around the corner? Newsflash, people are not going to care about the launch a SHORT SIX MONTHS AGO because the PS3 will be delivering that which it was made for....great games. Same thing happened when the 360 got great games....same scenario here. Get over it.

Anyway, now that the PS3 IS starting to live up to it's hype, I am according to your logic, supposed to just abandon the PS3 because it did not live up to it's hype at launch? Sorry, but I have a little more patience than that. I knew it would be awhile before the PS3 got on it's feet, as it always takes ANY CONSOLE some time to prove itself.:roll: I knew what I was buying, and why, and the rest of this year, and into next will be worth the purchase. 

Again, 6 months is a reasonable amount of time to wait for a console to start producing some quality titles, and the PS3 is going to deliver in spades. So, if you want to keep bashing the PS3 because of it's bad launch 6 months ago, go right ahead, lol. Meanwhile, the rest of us who are PS3 afficiandos will enjoy it for the reason we bought it....great games. Who cares about a bad launch, if the system ultimately produces what you bought it for? Again....360 as an example.....except the PS3 does not breakdown everytime you decide to move it an inch.;)    

Actually, the PS3 didnt have as bad a launch as most people think it did. It actually sold more units than the PS2, PS1, and 360 did on thier launchs. I dont have a link for confirm this, but there is an article in the GI i just got. And probably on thier website as well.

Yes, I do agree that it had a bad launch, because it did, lol. So did the 360, but no one is concerned with that NOW, are they? So, yet again, your point is moot, friend. Just like the 360, the PS3 had a bad start, but it has PLENTY on the table now, so it's slow launch in no way makes it a permanent failure, lol.....sorry.:)

Besides, for someone who seems to like to dwell on lack-luster launches, I don't see you dwelling on the 360's bad start, only the PS3's....why is that I wonder? Maybe because you just want to bash the PS3 in any way you can, while completely ignoring anything positive about it? Maybe it is pure damage control because of the latest string of good news, and the stirring of people's excitment over some KILLER looking exclusives that are just around the corner? Newsflash, people are not going to care about the launch a SHORT SIX MONTHS AGO because the PS3 will be delivering that which it was made for....great games. Same thing happened when the 360 got great games....same scenario here. Get over it.

Anyway, now that the PS3 IS starting to live up to it's hype, I am according to your logic, supposed to just abandon the PS3 because it did not live up to it's hype at launch? Sorry, but I have a little more patience than that. I knew it would be awhile before the PS3 got on it's feet, as it always takes ANY CONSOLE some time to prove itself.:roll: I knew what I was buying, and why, and the rest of this year, and into next will be worth the purchase.

Again, 6 months is a reasonable amount of time to wait for a console to start producing some quality titles, and the PS3 is going to deliver in spades. So, if you want to keep bashing the PS3 because of it's bad launch 6 months ago, go right ahead, lol. Meanwhile, the rest of us who are PS3 afficiandos will enjoy it for the reason we bought it....great games. Who cares about a bad launch, if the system ultimately produces what you bought it for? Again....360 as an example.....except the PS3 does not breakdown everytime you decide to move it an inch.;)

ironcreed

I never said the PS3 was doomed to fail, just stating that something can't live up to the hype since what was hyped to begin with was promised at launch.

We're not discussing the 360 because the topic is the PS3.  If you really need to compare the two consoles, there's no stronger evidence that the PS3 is NOT living up to the hype.  PS3 was supposed to destroy the 360 in terms of graphics and exclusives.

I'm not bashing the PS3, just stating the facts.  You cows are the ones backtracking and re-evaluating goals for bragging purposes.  You seem more eager to bash the 360 than anything else.

The thing is, all this news is no different than any other conference Sony has been at.  All promises, but when it comes down to it, falling short of expectations.

So stay in focus.  My contention is that you can't say something has met hype when it clearly has failed to meet the hype.  You can't say, "Oh, PS3 is going to be great, just wait till launch" to "Oh, PS3 is going to be great, just wait till ______." and expect that people will agree that it met hype.

Hyping 20 things about the console, you're bound to have something go right, but that in no way suggests that the PS3 has met all it's original hype. 

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

Yes, I do agree that it had a bad launch, because it did, lol. So did the 360, but no one is concerned with that NOW, are they? So, yet again, your point is moot, friend. Just like the 360, the PS3 had a bad start, but it has PLENTY on the table now, so it's slow launch in no way makes it a permanent failure, lol.....sorry.:)

Besides, for someone who seems to like to dwell on lack-luster launches, I don't see you dwelling on the 360's bad start, only the PS3's....why is that I wonder? Maybe because you just want to bash the PS3 in any way you can, while completely ignoring anything positive about it? Maybe it is pure damage control because of the latest string of good news, and the stirring of people's excitment over some KILLER looking exclusives that are just around the corner? Newsflash, people are not going to care about the launch a SHORT SIX MONTHS AGO because the PS3 will be delivering that which it was made for....great games. Same thing happened when the 360 got great games....same scenario here. Get over it.

Anyway, now that the PS3 IS starting to live up to it's hype, I am according to your logic, supposed to just abandon the PS3 because it did not live up to it's hype at launch? Sorry, but I have a little more patience than that. I knew it would be awhile before the PS3 got on it's feet, as it always takes ANY CONSOLE some time to prove itself.:roll: I knew what I was buying, and why, and the rest of this year, and into next will be worth the purchase.

Again, 6 months is a reasonable amount of time to wait for a console to start producing some quality titles, and the PS3 is going to deliver in spades. So, if you want to keep bashing the PS3 because of it's bad launch 6 months ago, go right ahead, lol. Meanwhile, the rest of us who are PS3 afficiandos will enjoy it for the reason we bought it....great games. Who cares about a bad launch, if the system ultimately produces what you bought it for? Again....360 as an example.....except the PS3 does not breakdown everytime you decide to move it an inch.;)

karicha9

I never said the PS3 was doomed to fail, just stating that something can't live up to the hype since what was hyped to begin with was promised at launch.

We're not discussing the 360 because the topic is the PS3.  If you really need to compare the two consoles, there's no stronger evidence that the PS3 is NOT living up to the hype.  PS3 was supposed to destroy the 360 in terms of graphics and exclusives.

I'm not bashing the PS3, just stating the facts.  You cows are the ones backtracking and re-evaluating goals for bragging purposes.  You seem more eager to bash the 360 than anything else.

The thing is, all this news is no different than any other conference Sony has been at.  All promises, but when it comes down to it, falling short of expectations.

So stay in focus.  My contention is that you can't say something has met hype when it clearly has failed to meet the hype.  You can't say, "Oh, PS3 is going to be great, just wait till launch" to "Oh, PS3 is going to be great, just wait till ______." and expect that people will agree that it met hype.

Hyping 20 things about the console, you're bound to have something go right, but that in no way suggests that the PS3 has met all it's original hype. 

What do you mean I cannot use the 360 as a comparison? Why not, it is a console as well, right? People hyped the 360 to death, and it's launch was lackluster, what's the difference? You act as if pointing out THE SAME KINDS OF NEGATIVES for the 360 is off limits here, but is more than relevant ONLY to the PS3. Not hardly fair, let alone an accurate, and balanced judgement.....yet you persist in it even still, lol. Truly baffling. 

I bring up the fact that the 360 had a lack luster launch as well, and you completely evade that FACT by telling me that I cannot bring the 360 into this.:lol:....whatever, man. That just further proves my point. My contention is that the 360 did not live up to it's hype, but after about a year, WHEN THE GOOD GAMES STARTED COMING OUT, no one cared. Why can't the PS3 be offered the same courtesy? Oh, I forgot, it is the PS3....it gets none here. All other consoles can be hyped, and fail to live up to expectations for a while, but the PS3 is being crucified by fanboys after only 6 months, even though some FANTASTIC games are only right around the corner. Sorry you will be missing out.;)

Also, I am not a "cow", as last time I checked, I was a human being, lol. I own a 360 also, and love it as well. I am just tired of all of the baseless PS3 bashing, when the other consoles fall short of the glory in one way or another as well. And when finally the PS3 starts getting some good news, and good write-ups, there always has to be the band of fanboys in the corner screaming, "more empty promises, those games look like trash", lol. It is ridiculous, man. Is it any wonder that people point out the other systems flaws as well? It is only to try and prove a point. 

Anyway, I get it, you do not dig the PS3....congratulations. I do, and so do plenty of others. There are plenty of positives around the corner for the PS3, as well as the 360. And I for one, am am looking forward to what each brings to the table, as they both are offering a multitude of great looking/sounding games that I cannot wait to play. To each their own, bud.   

[QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]

3 games?!?!?!?!

NO WAY!!!!!!

What an amazing amount of fun to have, and all for only 600 dollars!

swamprat_basic

The average person with a life doesn't need 3 games a month.

Actually they would, look at ps2 when it was young, and look at its adoption rate as well as its attachment rate...

What features in the ps3 does no one want? And with inflation the price point of the two at launch were identical. (You might be a little to young to understand inflation though).

What on earth are you talking about? Inflation has made $300=$600 in just 6 years? Last time I checked the minimum wage is virtually the same as it was back when the Ps2 was released.

Which is a problem with public policy pal.... 

[QUOTE="Khansoul"][QUOTE="dubvisions"][QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]It can't EVENTUALLY live up to it. dubvisions

Yes it can. Think of the PS3 as a slow-burning movie, except you're walking in at the best bits.

But I guess I see what's going on here. Sony says next-gen doesn't start until they say so. Cows say that PS3 can meet the hype at a time of their own discretion.

Why not, when you're going to run the show? Come on, the "next-gen" started when MS came out a year too early with inferior hardware.

XBOX 360 has games!

/thread

Really, besides Gears of War, what exclusive does the 360 have that's so sweet??

See, I noticed this too, and it cracks me up every time lemmings argue about the amazing 360 library (gears, gears, and gears). 

What do you mean I cannot use the 360 as a comparison? Why not, it is a console as well, right? People hyped the 360 to death, and it's launch was lackluster, what's the difference? You act as if pointing out THE SAME KINDS OF NEGATIVES for the 360 is off limits here, but is more than relevant ONLY to the PS3. Not hardly fair, let alone an accurate, and balanced judgement.....yet you persist in it even still, lol. Truly baffling.

I bring up the fact that the 360 had a lack luster launch as well, and you completely evade that FACT by telling me that I cannot bring the 360 into this.:lol:....whatever, man. That just further proves my point. My contention is that the 360 did not live up to it's hype, but after about a year, WHEN THE GOOD GAMES STARTED COMING OUT, no one cared. Why can't the PS3 be offered the same courtesy? Oh, I forgot, it is the PS3....it gets none here. All other consoles can be hyped, and fail to live up to expectations for a while, but the PS3 is being crucified by fanboys after only 6 months, even though some FANTASTIC games are only right around the corner. Sorry you will be missing out.;)

Also, I am not a "cow", as last time I checked, I was a human being, lol. I own a 360 also, and love it as well. I am just tired of all of the baseless PS3 bashing, when the other consoles fall short of the glory in one way or another as well. And when finally the PS3 starts getting some good news, and good write-ups, there always has to be the band of fanboys in the corner screaming, "more empty promises, those games look like trash", lol. It is ridiculous, man. Is it any wonder that people point out the other systems flaws as well? It is only to try and prove a point.

Anyway, I get it, you do not dig the PS3....congratulations. I do, and so do plenty of others. There are plenty of positives around the corner for the PS3, as well as the 360. And I for one, am am looking forward to what each brings to the table, as they both are offering a multitude of great looking/sounding games that I cannot wait to play. To each their own, bud.

ironcreed

You can talk about the 360's launch, but it was better than the PS3's and the 360 was never hyped to blow away the gaming industry.  Both consoles were not hyped to the same degree, and you should know that.  You shouldn't pretend like MS and Sony were supposed to be equals in this gen, as Sony was supposed to continue their dominance right from the gate.

You act like I bash the PS3 up and down, but I haven't.  I merely contended that it has not met hype, and that one can't just delay hype to suit their argument out of convenience.  You act like I pissed on all the games, but you truly did not get the heart of what I was saying.  Instead, you chose to polarize my statements as if I was just another basher.

The games look fine, but this showing is no different than any other that hyped PS3 games.  Thus, I see no reason to state that, "the PS3 is STARTING to live up to the hype", which is a fundamentally flawed statement to begin with.  Your posts have yet to even challenge this; they merely discuss what the PS3 MAY be in the future, which does not address the fact that the PS3 has not met hype, nor can it ever meet initial hype, since that initial hype encompassed the launch window.

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

 those games only need to be finished

xbox360 fans think those games will ship tomorrow

 

keep dreamin lads

dopepackmack420

xbox360 owns ps3 get over it, you paid 600$ for blu ray movie player not a next gen game console.

so which games let you have custom soundtracks on ps3? oops i forgot ps3 doesnt support that, not next gen lol.

Yeah and atleast it will last longer then a year before u see the rings of death, lol. Get over yourself, just because u cant afford all systems, dont mean u have to come and bash another system. Yes maybe if I only owned an xbox 360, then id prolly say the same thing as u, trying to stick up for my console, but since I own both, I laugh at those who dont own a PS3 and dont even know how awesome this machine is. U know why we aint worried? Because we know the games are coming, and once the games start coming, sony will just keep brining more and more, and im talking about games for each genre of gaming. U also said there isnt no custom track for the ps3, but they already said they are working on that and will be a firmware update to fix that, so dont worry about that, its coming.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

What do you mean I cannot use the 360 as a comparison? Why not, it is a console as well, right? People hyped the 360 to death, and it's launch was lackluster, what's the difference? You act as if pointing out THE SAME KINDS OF NEGATIVES for the 360 is off limits here, but is more than relevant ONLY to the PS3. Not hardly fair, let alone an accurate, and balanced judgement.....yet you persist in it even still, lol. Truly baffling.

I bring up the fact that the 360 had a lack luster launch as well, and you completely evade that FACT by telling me that I cannot bring the 360 into this.:lol:....whatever, man. That just further proves my point. My contention is that the 360 did not live up to it's hype, but after about a year, WHEN THE GOOD GAMES STARTED COMING OUT, no one cared. Why can't the PS3 be offered the same courtesy? Oh, I forgot, it is the PS3....it gets none here. All other consoles can be hyped, and fail to live up to expectations for a while, but the PS3 is being crucified by fanboys after only 6 months, even though some FANTASTIC games are only right around the corner. Sorry you will be missing out.;)

Also, I am not a "cow", as last time I checked, I was a human being, lol. I own a 360 also, and love it as well. I am just tired of all of the baseless PS3 bashing, when the other consoles fall short of the glory in one way or another as well. And when finally the PS3 starts getting some good news, and good write-ups, there always has to be the band of fanboys in the corner screaming, "more empty promises, those games look like trash", lol. It is ridiculous, man. Is it any wonder that people point out the other systems flaws as well? It is only to try and prove a point.

Anyway, I get it, you do not dig the PS3....congratulations. I do, and so do plenty of others. There are plenty of positives around the corner for the PS3, as well as the 360. And I for one, am am looking forward to what each brings to the table, as they both are offering a multitude of great looking/sounding games that I cannot wait to play. To each their own, bud.

karicha9

You can talk about the 360's launch, but it was better than the PS3's and the 360 was never hyped to blow away the gaming industry.  Both consoles were not hyped to the same degree, and you should know that.  You shouldn't pretend like MS and Sony were supposed to be equals in this gen, as Sony was supposed to continue their dominance right from the gate.

You act like I bash the PS3 up and down, but I haven't.  I merely contended that it has not met hype, and that one can't just delay hype to suit their argument out of convenience.  You act like I pissed on all the games, but you truly did not get the heart of what I was saying.  Instead, you chose to polarize my statements as if I was just another basher.

The games look fine, but this showing is no different than any other that hyped PS3 games.  Thus, I see no reason to state that, "the PS3 is STARTING to live up to the hype", which is a fundamentally flawed statement to begin with.  Your posts have yet to even challenge this; they merely discuss what the PS3 MAY be in the future, which does not address the fact that the PS3 has not met hype, nor can it ever meet initial hype, since that initial hype encompassed the launch window.

Let me summarize here....do you really think that the PS3 should have surpassed the 360 straight from it's launch, when the 360 had a YEAR HEADSTART? That my friend, is where your logic is UNFAIRLY AND BLATANTLY SLANTED and very flawed. It is like giving someone in a Porsche a 100 mile headstart over someone in a Ferrari, and then expecting the Ferrari to catch up, and surpass the Porsche straight away, lol. That dog just does not hunt, my friend....sorry. But it gives you some convienient, albeit RIDICULOUS ammo in order to try and demean the PS3 for having a lackluster launch.

I never flat out stated that the PS3 was going to completely out perform the 360, although I believe that it will with many games, and vice versa, the 360 will have some dominant titles as well. Hell, it already does. But I also believe that the PS3 is a superior console hardware wise, and will eventually prove this, given LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS of course. Even top developers, such as Factor 5, and Team Ninja have said so themselves.

How is my stating that "the PS3 is starting to live up to the hype" fundamentally flawed? Just because YOU do not think so? That is just your opinion, as was my original statement just my opinion. Although based on what people within the industry are saying about some of the upcoming titles for the PS3, and based on vidoes, screens, ect....I think I am pretty well justified in saying that the PS3 is indeed starting to deliver on some of it's promises. Namely, GOOD GAMES. Just because YOU personally think that it is just "more of the same" from Sony, it does not mean that these games will under deliver or that they will not be received well by the gaming world. 

Why all of the Pessimism? No, you never directly "bashed" the PS3, but you sure do have a negative stance on it, while completely ignoring any, and all of the good news that the PS3 does have that I have brought up. You instead just take it all in and translate it into yet more negative for you to use, by claiming that, "it is just more of the same from Sony". So, tell me, how is that slanted logic not "fundamentally flawed"?

Regardless, man....go ahead and dwell in the past, and condemn the PS3 launch of 6 MONTHS AGO all you want, ok? Go ahead and downplay all of the great looking games that are coming out for the PS3, as if it is nothing but more "Sony lies", lol. No matter what else is said here, it will clearly only lead to further disagreement. So, why don't we just agree to disagree here, rather than continue to get entangled into what boils down to nothing but a mere difference of opinions?

Let me summarize here....do you really think that the PS3 should have surpassed the 360 straight from it's launch, when the 360 had a YEAR HEADSTART? That my friend, is where your logic is UNFAIRLY AND BLATANTLY SLANTED and very flawed. It is like giving someone in a Porsche a 100 mile headstart over someone in a Ferrari, and then expecting the Ferrari to catch up, and surpass the Porsche straight away, lol. That dog just does not hunt, my friend....sorry. But it gives you some convienient, albeit RIDICULOUS ammo in order to try and demean the PS3 for having a lackluster launch.

I never flat out stated that the PS3 was going to completely out perform the 360, although I believe that it will with many games, and vice versa, the 360 will have some dominant titles as well. Hell, it already does. But I also believe that the PS3 is a superior console hardware wise, and will eventually prove this, given LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS of course. Even top developers, such as Factor 5, and Team Ninja have said so themselves.

How is my stating that "the PS3 is starting to live up to the hype" fundamentally flawed? Just because YOU do not think so? That is just your opinion, as was my original statement just my opinion. Although based on what people within the industry are saying about some of the upcoming titles for the PS3, and based on vidoes, screens, ect....I think I am pretty well justified in saying that the PS3 is indeed starting to deliver on some of it's promises. Namely, GOOD GAMES. Just because YOU personally think that it is just "more of the same" from Sony, it does not mean that these games will under deliver or that they will not be received well by the gaming world.

Why all of the Pessimism? No, you never directly "bashed" the PS3, but you sure do have a negative stance on it, while completely ignoring any, and all of the good news that the PS3 does have that I have brought up. You instead just take it all in and translate it into yet more negative for you to use, by claiming that, "it is just more of the same from Sony". So, tell me, how is that slanted logic not "fundamentally flawed"?

Regardless, man....go ahead and dwell in the past, and condemn the PS3 launch of 6 MONTHS AGO all you want, ok? Go ahead and downplay all of the great looking games that are coming out for the PS3, as if it is nothing but more "Sony lies", lol. No matter what else is said here, it will clearly only lead to further disagreement. So, why don't we just agree to disagree here, rather than continue to get entangled into what boils down to nothing but a mere difference of opinions?

ironcreed

But again, since E3, TGS, Leipzig, there have been plenty of PS3 games hyped to death that didn't deliver.  How can you possibly state that this is any different, and now, all of a sudden, once again, use the statement, "PS3 is starting to live up to the hype"?

The fundamental flaw is that original Sony hype encompassed the launch window.  You admit yourself it didn't meet expectations, then still ensure that the PS3 is starting to live up to the hype, but how can it live up to the original hype if it didn't meet that hype at launch?

You can say the PS3 is looking for a turn around, potentially poised to push some promising titles, whatever, but you cannot state that the PS3 is starting to live up to the hype.

Furthermore, you are still completely confused about my statements, thinking I'm bashing the PS3, when I'm merely countering the statement, "PS3 is starting to live up to the hype".  With what you have stated, you have clearly not shown that the PS3 is living up to the hype, since you STILL can't get past the fact that such hype encompassed the launch.  Instead, you rely on trying to smear my words as some sort of tactic to declare my hate for Sony.

You've polarized this discussion to make it seem like opinion.  Clearly, it is only on your half. 

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

Let me summarize here....do you really think that the PS3 should have surpassed the 360 straight from it's launch, when the 360 had a YEAR HEADSTART? That my friend, is where your logic is UNFAIRLY AND BLATANTLY SLANTED and very flawed. It is like giving someone in a Porsche a 100 mile headstart over someone in a Ferrari, and then expecting the Ferrari to catch up, and surpass the Porsche straight away, lol. That dog just does not hunt, my friend....sorry. But it gives you some convienient, albeit RIDICULOUS ammo in order to try and demean the PS3 for having a lackluster launch.

I never flat out stated that the PS3 was going to completely out perform the 360, although I believe that it will with many games, and vice versa, the 360 will have some dominant titles as well. Hell, it already does. But I also believe that the PS3 is a superior console hardware wise, and will eventually prove this, given LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS of course. Even top developers, such as Factor 5, and Team Ninja have said so themselves.

How is my stating that "the PS3 is starting to live up to the hype" fundamentally flawed? Just because YOU do not think so? That is just your opinion, as was my original statement just my opinion. Although based on what people within the industry are saying about some of the upcoming titles for the PS3, and based on vidoes, screens, ect....I think I am pretty well justified in saying that the PS3 is indeed starting to deliver on some of it's promises. Namely, GOOD GAMES. Just because YOU personally think that it is just "more of the same" from Sony, it does not mean that these games will under deliver or that they will not be received well by the gaming world.

Why all of the Pessimism? No, you never directly "bashed" the PS3, but you sure do have a negative stance on it, while completely ignoring any, and all of the good news that the PS3 does have that I have brought up. You instead just take it all in and translate it into yet more negative for you to use, by claiming that, "it is just more of the same from Sony". So, tell me, how is that slanted logic not "fundamentally flawed"?

Regardless, man....go ahead and dwell in the past, and condemn the PS3 launch of 6 MONTHS AGO all you want, ok? Go ahead and downplay all of the great looking games that are coming out for the PS3, as if it is nothing but more "Sony lies", lol. No matter what else is said here, it will clearly only lead to further disagreement. So, why don't we just agree to disagree here, rather than continue to get entangled into what boils down to nothing but a mere difference of opinions?

karicha9

But again, since E3, TGS, Leipzig, there have been plenty of PS3 games hyped to death that didn't deliver.  How can you possibly state that this is any different, and now, all of a sudden, once again, use the statement, "PS3 is starting to live up to the hype"?

The fundamental flaw is that original Sony hype encompassed the launch window.  You admit yourself it didn't meet expectations, then still ensure that the PS3 is starting to live up to the hype, but how can it live up to the original hype if it didn't meet that hype at launch?

You can say the PS3 is looking for a turn around, potentially poised to push some promising titles, whatever, but you cannot state that the PS3 is starting to live up to the hype.

Furthermore, you are still completely confused about my statements, thinking I'm bashing the PS3, when I'm merely countering the statement, "PS3 is starting to live up to the hype".  With what you have stated, you have clearly not shown that the PS3 is living up to the hype, since you STILL can't get past the fact that such hype encompassed the launch.  Instead, you rely on trying to smear my words as some sort of tactic to declare my hate for Sony.

You've polarized this discussion to make it seem like opinion.  Clearly, it is only on your half. 

Yes, I indeed did say that the PS3 had a lackluster launch, as it clearly did. But that in no way means that it eventually cannot or will not live up to being the great console that we all had envisioned it would be, if given the TIME.....a concept you seem to have trouble understanding in regards to this topic. The 360 had a rough start, and DID NOT LIVE UP TO THE HYPE, but given the time, it proved it's worth. The PS3 should be afforded the same courtesy. Yet it is YOU who are polarizing the PS3 by trying to limit it's potential NOW based solely on the fact that it did not live up to it's launch 6 months ago, lol. 

Indeed, you are the one who is polarizing here by your placing your own self styled constraints on the PS3, by claiming that somehow it cannot live up to it's hype just because it failed to live up to it's initial launch hype. You further polarize the PS3 by trying to use it's limited launch to overshadow it's future potential....which of course is pointless because what is done is done, and just because it as of yet has NOT lived up to it's hype, it certainly does not mean that it will not.

As for my statements that are in regards to the PS3 "starting to live up to it's hype". I even said that it WAS JUST MY OPINION, therefore, it is NOT fundamentally flawed. There indeed has been good news concerning some very intriguing looking titles that are right around the corner for the PS3, and I for one think that it is a good sign, and worthy of getting hyped for. Besides, what one considers "living up to the hype" is within the eye of the beholder anyway. What is quality for me, may be garbage for you, and vice versa, my friend. One man's cure is another man's poison.

So please, spare me the "fundamentally flawed" accusations, when all you are offering is a sour, opinionated, and POLARIZED forecast based off of the PS3's sour launch only. Your pessimistic, and rather bleak outlook in regards to the PS3 is a mere opinion, just as much as my statements were as well, so if my statements are fundamentally flawed, I guess yours are just as much as mine.

AGAIN, to each his/her own, man. This is nothing but a clash of opinons, therefore they break like glass, as everyone has one. This is drawing out into a perpetual entaglement of two opinons, of which we are BOTH entitled to. End of story.