[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="LegendofYaslint"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="LegendofYaslint"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="LegendofYaslint"][QUOTE="kornbone"][QUOTE="HaloONE"][QUOTE="shaggymcp"]And GTHD looks way better in motion.
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too bad it doesn't drive better in motion... Forza physics> GTHD
Forza physics are laughable at best.
While I like the GT series as much as the next guy, saying the Forza physics are laughable made you look like a complete fanboy tool.
GT is great, but Forza owns the hell out of GT when it comes to the actual racing aspect.
GTHD might look better, but so far Forza's devs seem to "get" realistic racing much more than the GT devs.
Just about any non-fanboy racing fan should agree.
i totally disagree. i think gt "gets" realism, while forza "gets" general accessability.If you turn all the assists off, Forza is much more difficult and realistic than GT, Forza is just smart enough to make it easier for those who aren't looking for a huge challenge.Â
GT has "bumper car" physics and the sliding on turns is often too aggressive, many racing fans point this out all the time.
GT is still a great series, I just don't see how any series racing fan could think it plays better than Forza. Seems like a fanboy statement IMHO.
Both are great games though.
i dont know, i just see alot more hardcore gt fans than i do forza fans. that only backs up my opinion that it is the more realistic driving sim. "bumper car" is usually used to refer to the lack of damage and bad ai, not driving dynamics. sliding is too agressive? i don't know what that means really, but real life cars do slide quite a bit when raced. being perfectly in control is somewhat rare.Of course, far more people own a PS2 than an xbox so of course there are more GT fans, this point is invalid and you should really know better to be honest.
The "bumper car" physics comes from smashing into another car during a turn going really fast and that car just flies out of your way, whereas in Forza you would BOTH go spinning out of control as in real life. GT doesn't make you pay for running into objects, and no, not damage, but the physics of spinning out from too much contact.
Forza is much more demanding than GT. Those who say different probably haven't even played Forza.
GT is great, but it's somewhat lacking physics and it's horrible AI keep it from being a what it should be. I have my hopes really high that GT5 will learn from these mistakes and give the Sony gamers more true options.
GT does have a wonderful set of tracks to race on though, much better than the few in Forza.
i dont think ps2 sales has much to do at all with gt's success, reason one being that it was out on ps1. so i do know better. secondly, it would only take a few people to populate fan and car setup sites, and while there may be a few, there are far more dedicated ones for gt. for the 3rd time in this thread, forza was a racing sim, so of course its ai and damage are better. that has nothing to do with which has the better driving dynamics. real fans dont ever do races, only time trials, and the object is to NOT hit anything. even if you see another side to any of that, i still will remain unconvinced that forza is more demanding or more realistic speaking strictly about a single car, a track, and a driver.It's a shame to see people this closeminded. Have you ever played Forza? It really seems that you have not and that you are just backing GT for the sake of fanboyism. I hope I'm wrong....
GT has been around longer and Sony systems are more popular, so my point still stands. GT had no real competition before Forza came around...get what I am saying here?
Why do you spin out when you oversteer or hit another car? Physics. Forza punishes the driver more for taking too fast a turn or trying to be too aggressive with a slide. GT does NOT punish the driver as much for trying to be too aggressive.Â
I get what you are saying, but Forza, due to it have more realistic driving dynamics, is a more challenging game, no matter what mode of play you enjoy, racing or time trial.Â
Sorry you don't want to hear any different. I have played both games for over 100 hours, and I have several reasons for my opinions.
well, first off, i'm not offended or anything like that, it seems you are implying that. you are also throwing out fanboy quite a bit, which i dont understand. what if i am just like you but see things from the other side? now, oversteering does not in any way imply that you will spin out. quite the opposite actually. while gt's spinning may not be as "punishing", its really secondary to the driving experience because a good driver will not find himself that far out of control. i could drive the lap and never notice that it is not as "punishing" because there was no need to punish me. i disagree with this anyhow, ever tried drifting in gt? not easy. i don't know about which is more "enjoyable" because i don't know how everyone sees it, but i do say that gt has the potental to be more realistic. i have played forza and just wasnt into it like i am gt. i dont know why, maybe it felt more "arcadey". but it doesnt suck at all, maybe my 2nd favorite racing game. 
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