Alan Wake and Forza 3 confirmed to be at MS's E3

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I am excited to see what T10 has done with FM3...I hope they show some gameplay..

millwrought

...I wonder...Is Turn 10 taking over PGR also?

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

People already expected these two games. Any new games?

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

People already expected these two games. Any new games?

BioShockOwnz

These are new games. And we haven't seen actual gameplay of either.

I dont think these 2 games alone are going to cut it, they better have some new IPs or there in trouble. Alan Wake i will get for sure but GT over Forza for me.djsifer01

Well, of the multiple new ip's for Sony (ie: LBP, inFAMOUS, Uncharted, etc), it doesn't seem like it has taken them out of 3rd place.

[QUOTE="millwrought"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I am excited to see what T10 has done with FM3...I hope they show some gameplay..

heretrix

...I wonder...Is Turn 10 taking over PGR also?

But who would do it? Lionhead has zero experience with racing games, and Rare only made Banjo racing games. Their new studio BigPark? Some of the people there made Need for Speed games, they seem pretty likely if not Turn 10. And who could they farm it out to 3rd party wise? It seems like only Turn 10 could do it.

Forza 3 better be a lot better than Forza 2.

Forza 3 better be a lot better than Forza 2.

dream431ca

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Forza 3 better be a lot better than Forza 2.

PS360_Gamer

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Forza 3 better be a lot better than Forza 2.

PS360_Gamer

Lets hope for a lot better physical damage and better physics for the crashes, like cars rolling over, getting mangled, and even completely destroyed. I'm still waiting for a console racing sim to accomplish all that.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Forza 3 better be a lot better than Forza 2.

PS360_Gamer

Acording to that survery leak a long time ago, there will be over 100 courses and over 400 cars.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Forza 3 better be a lot better than Forza 2.

Lets hope for a lot better physical damage and better physics for the crashes, like cars rolling over, getting mangled, and even completely destroyed. I'm still waiting for a console racing sim to accomplish all that.

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Forza 3 better be a lot better than Forza 2.

mitu123

Does that include reversed tracks or 100 separate race courses? The former sounds realistic to me. Wow. 2 years since Forza 2, lets hope the game is in good shape, that is, if it releases this year.

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

People already expected these two games. Any new games?

BioShockOwnz

These are new games. And we haven't seen actual gameplay of either.

I dont think these 2 games alone are going to cut it, they better have some new IPs or there in trouble. Alan Wake i will get for sure but GT over Forza for me.djsifer01

Well, of the multiple new ip's for Sony (ie: LBP, inFAMOUS, Uncharted, etc), it doesn't seem like it has taken them out of 3rd place.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

These are new games. And we haven't seen actual gameplay of either.

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]I dont think these 2 games alone are going to cut it, they better have some new IPs or there in trouble. Alan Wake i will get for sure but GT over Forza for me.TREAL_Since

Well, of the multiple new ip's for Sony (ie: LBP, inFAMOUS, Uncharted, etc), it doesn't seem like it has taken them out of 3rd place.

Don't you think it's bad that Sony's IP's this gen can't match the sales of a Halo or Gears? I mean, even Fable 2 sales were incredible. Sales of hardware will push sales of software. That's only common sense. Sony needs to sell hardware and the devs deserve to sell their quality software. Sales matter more in the real world than in System Wars, my friend.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] its suppose to have more coursesdream431ca

Does that include reversed tracks or 100 separate race courses? The former sounds realistic to me. Wow. 2 years since Forza 2, lets hope the game is in good shape, that is, if it releases this year.

Unknown, just said over 100 courses :P

I would SUSPECT it would come out this year since we've known about it for a while now.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"] its suppose to have more coursesdream431ca

Does that include reversed tracks or 100 separate race courses? The former sounds realistic to me. Wow. 2 years since Forza 2, lets hope the game is in good shape, that is, if it releases this year.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

These are new games. And we haven't seen actual gameplay of either.

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]I dont think these 2 games alone are going to cut it, they better have some new IPs or there in trouble. Alan Wake i will get for sure but GT over Forza for me.djsifer01

Well, of the multiple new ip's for Sony (ie: LBP, inFAMOUS, Uncharted, etc), it doesn't seem like it has taken them out of 3rd place.

But you said they're in trouble. Just how are they in trouble? Financially, they're better off. And I think most gamers will be satisfied with 3 great exclusives and multiple great multiplats.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah, like 100 tracks from what I read.mitu123

Does that include reversed tracks or 100 separate race courses? The former sounds realistic to me. Wow. 2 years since Forza 2, lets hope the game is in good shape, that is, if it releases this year.

That just sounds crazy to me, a multi-disc racing game? Insane.

Though wasn't GT on several different discs as well?

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah, like 100 tracks from what I read.mitu123

Does that include reversed tracks or 100 separate race courses? The former sounds realistic to me. Wow. 2 years since Forza 2, lets hope the game is in good shape, that is, if it releases this year.

Sounds like it's shaping up well. But 2 years for 100 courses and more cars? Either Turn 10 has been working 24/7 for the last 2 years or this game is a long way off.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Does that include reversed tracks or 100 separate race courses? The former sounds realistic to me. Wow. 2 years since Forza 2, lets hope the game is in good shape, that is, if it releases this year.

millwrought

That just sounds crazy to me, a multi-disc racing game? Insane.

Though wasn't GT on several different discs as well?

GT2 had 2 disks.

[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Well, of the multiple new ip's for Sony (ie: LBP, inFAMOUS, Uncharted, etc), it doesn't seem like it has taken them out of 3rd place.

BioShockOwnz

But you said they're in trouble. Just how are they in trouble? Financially, they're better off. And I think most gamers will be satisfied with 3 great exclusives and multiple great multiplats.

[QUOTE="millwrought"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] That's all I found, don't know exactly if reversed or separate, but it'll have 2 discs as well.dream431ca

That just sounds crazy to me, a multi-disc racing game? Insane.

Though wasn't GT on several different discs as well?

GT2 had 2 disks.

Kool, kool. I thought one of the GT's had a couple discs.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Well, of the multiple new ip's for Sony (ie: LBP, inFAMOUS, Uncharted, etc), it doesn't seem like it has taken them out of 3rd place.

BioShockOwnz

Don't you think it's bad that Sony's IP's this gen can't match the sales of a Halo or Gears? I mean, even Fable 2 sales were incredible. Sales of hardware will push sales of software. That's only common sense. Sony needs to sell hardware and the devs deserve to sell their quality software. Sales matter more in the real world than in System Wars, my friend.

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LBP - 2 million

Uncharted - 2 million

Resistance - 2 million

Resistance 2 - 2 million (almost)

Motorstorm - 2 million

Motostorm 2 - 2 million (almost)

Heavenly Sword - 2 million

All new IPs that sold GREAT.

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It's not these games. It's the PRICE.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Does that include reversed tracks or 100 separate race courses? The former sounds realistic to me. Wow. 2 years since Forza 2, lets hope the game is in good shape, that is, if it releases this year.

dream431ca

Sounds like it's shaping up well. But 2 years for 100 courses and more cars? Either Turn 10 has been working 24/7 for the last 2 years or this game is a long way off.

I'm pretty excited about seeing Alan Wake, Forza 3, I don't really care about.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]True, but its full of win for me.djsifer01

But you said they're in trouble. Just how are they in trouble? Financially, they're better off. And I think most gamers will be satisfied with 3 great exclusives and multiple great multiplats.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] *sigh* Should 3rd place in sales matter? Oh wait... excuse me, this is SW.TREAL_Since

Don't you think it's bad that Sony's IP's this gen can't match the sales of a Halo or Gears? I mean, even Fable 2 sales were incredible. Sales of hardware will push sales of software. That's only common sense. Sony needs to sell hardware and the devs deserve to sell their quality software. Sales matter more in the real world than in System Wars, my friend.

-----------------------

LBP - 2 million

Uncharted - 2 million

Resistance - 2 million

Resistance 2 - 2 million (almost)

Motorstorm - 2 million

Motostorm 2 - 2 million (almost)

Heavenly Sword - 2 million

All new IPs that sold GREAT.

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It's not these games. It's the PRICE.

I'm pretty excited about seeing Alan Wake, Forza 3, I don't really care about.

battalionwars13

PS3 games do sell great. The BIG seller and killer app has always been Gran Turismo. Just like Halo is for XBOX. Gears is a phenomenal new IP that's translated into killer-app status. That's something the PS3 doesn't have yet.Episode_Eve

Not too good for R2 and others. Gears 2 sold over 4 million.

Same here. I'm GT loyalist :P. I only play one sim and 1 arcade racer.Episode_Eve

So you play both? Forza being the sim, of course. ;)

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] No. I don't look at that at all. If Sony can make profit (which they are from those games) then it's all good. People act like PS3 games DON'T sell. They DO. They just aren't outstanding like Halo 8 million. In fact 8 million is more than outstanding. It's phenominal. And when a new Sony IP doesn't magically reach 5-8 million it's a bad thing.

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LBP - 2 million

Uncharted - 2 million

Resistance - 2 million

Resistance 2 - 2 million (almost)

Motorstorm - 2 million

Motostorm 2 - 2 million (almost)

Heavenly Sword - 2 million

All new IPs that sold GREAT.

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It's not these games. It's the PRICE.

BioShockOwnz

Not too good for R2 and others. Gears 2 sold over 4 million.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]PS3 games do sell great. The BIG seller and killer app has always been Gran Turismo. Just like Halo is for XBOX. Gears is a phenomenal new IP that's translated into killer-app status. That's something the PS3 doesn't have yet.BioShockOwnz

Not too good for R2 and others. Gears 2 sold over 4 million.

Same here. I'm GT loyalist :P. I only play one sim and 1 arcade racer.Episode_Eve

So you play both? Forza being the sim, of course. ;)

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

Not too good for R2 and others. Gears 2 sold over 4 million.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]Same here. I'm GT loyalist :P. I only play one sim and 1 arcade racer.Episode_Eve

So you play both? Forza being the sim, of course. ;)

You made it too easy. I had to do it! :P

Gears of War on UE3.0 then came Gears 2 on UE3.5. Whoever thinks the 360 is maxxed out is wrong. Alan Wake, Forza 3, Fight Night Round 4 are just the beginning, and confirmed Gears 3 on UE 4 (not sure if it'll be on 360 or next XBOX but Gears of War is a confirmed trilogy). Alan Wake should show what the 360 can do.

Gears of War on UE3.0 then came Gears 2 on UE3.5. Whoever thinks the 360 is maxxed out is wrong. Alan Wake, Forza 3, Fight Night Round 4 are just the beginning, and confirmed Gears 3 on UE 4 (not sure if it'll be on 360 or next XBOX but Gears of War is a confirmed trilogy). Alan Wake should show what the 360 can do.

nVidiaGaMer

These are both day one buys for me. Forza is the best racing series of all time and Alan Wake has alot of potential.

These are both day one buys for me. Forza is the best racing series of all time and Alan Wake has alot of potential.

kozzy1234

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]PS3 games do sell great. The BIG seller and killer app has always been Gran Turismo. Just like Halo is for XBOX. Gears is a phenomenal new IP that's translated into killer-app status. That's something the PS3 doesn't have yet.BioShockOwnz

Not too good for R2 and others. Gears 2 sold over 4 million.

You know what. Now that I think about it. Those games could and would have sold upwards to Gears numbers if the PS3 was at a lower price compared to the competition. The true killer-app the PS3 needs is a price drop. Considering the quality of the games (on PS3) and it's only 8 million behind the 360 (which gained that lead with the year lead), who's knows if they didn't push millions of hardware units. Incentives are incentives. The price is the problem. So these games can be considered killer-apps.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

So you play both? Forza being the sim, of course. ;)

BioShockOwnz

You made it too easy. I had to do it! :P

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

These are both day one buys for me. Forza is the best racing series of all time and Alan Wake has alot of potential.

PS360_Gamer

Um, there is nothing realistic about GT. If I was driving down the highway at 90 MPH, I couldn't just bump into other cars without crashing, like you do in GT...

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] LMAO, I knew someone was gonna say that.Episode_Eve

You made it too easy. I had to do it! :P

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

These are both day one buys for me. Forza is the best racing series of all time and Alan Wake has alot of potential.

AlphaGamer469

Um, there is nothing realistic about GT. If I was driving down the highway at 90 MPH, I couldn't just bump into other cars without crashing, like you do in GT...

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]PS3 games do sell great. The BIG seller and killer app has always been Gran Turismo. Just like Halo is for XBOX. Gears is a phenomenal new IP that's translated into killer-app status. That's something the PS3 doesn't have yet.Episode_Eve

Not too good for R2 and others. Gears 2 sold over 4 million.

You know what. Now that I think about it. Those games could and would have sold upwards to Gears numbers if the PS3 was at a lower price compared to the competition. The true killer-app the PS3 needs is a price drop. Considering the quality of the games (on PS3) and it's only 8 million behind the 360 (which gained that lead with the year lead), who's knows if they didn't push millions of hardware units. Incentives are incentives. The price is the problem. So these games can be considered killer-apps.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

You made it too easy. I had to do it! :P

AlphaGamer469

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

These are both day one buys for me. Forza is the best racing series of all time and Alan Wake has alot of potential.

PS360_Gamer

Gamespot and the Metacritic average is right. Forza has been better than GT after GT3.

I just hope the final release copy of GT5 is a lot better than Prolouge

Because in terms of gameplay Forza 2 completey destorys GT5P

[QUOTE="PS360_Gamer"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

These are both day one buys for me. Forza is the best racing series of all time and Alan Wake has alot of potential.

BioShockOwnz

Gamespot and the Metacritic average is right. Forza has been better than GT after GT3.

I just hope the final release copy of GT5 is a lot better than Prolouge

Because in terms of gameplay Forza 2 completey destorys GT5P

thelastguy

Versus what, one installment? Sure Forza got slightly better scores across the board than GT4. Considering it was the only one with an online component I see why. GT4 was great, but more of a rehash. We haven't seen a next gen GT, so I'm really interested to see how this plays out.Episode_Eve

Well, some still sing the praises of GT, but the franchise has been beaten since what, like '04? Like about 5 years? I wouldn't be praising its behind the curve and outdated design decisions. Then again, Polyphony is trying to play catch up and implement things Forza and GTR had long before it.

Forza > GT4 in reviews.

Forza 2 > GT5: P in reviews.

The trend will continue. Outside of graphics, it seems Polyphony is struggling. Hell, it's been forever since we heard about GT Mobile and we still don't have it.