Alan Wake graphically superior to Uncharted 2....???

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#51 Odrec
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From what I've seen it's certainly worth contending for 2nd place (console gfx king) but we haven't seen anything on the final build yet except screenshots (lighting looks great though). Wait 'til we see more about it before making a case.moose_knuckler
I believe there were some gameplay vids already.
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#52 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="daveg1"] keep beleing that son...all you sony fans cowering over this one machine called the ps3 need to start polaying other machines aswel as the one you,ve got just so you know what your talking about..daveg1
Why do people/lems always say PS3 fans "cower" or "hide" behind things? it's so juvenile. Someone has an opinion so they're automatically hiding? right.

thats not what i meant at all i meant ps3 fans talk as if everything on there system is god when they havent even experienced anything out there same go's for 360/wii fanboys..i see it more so with ps3 fans claiming this is better than that..

Well saying "all you sony fans" gives that impression. Besides, I'm sure several multi-console owners agree, and not just the die-hard fanboys. I'll agree that the cows have been more vocal, but only in terms of graphics because they have the ammunition for it. They do over do it sometimes though.
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#53 nervmeister
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I think Alan Wake looks pretty damn impressive from the gameplay footage I've seen so far (the lighting especially). Since I can't count pixels, triangles, shaders, or whatever, I don't know whether or not it rivals UC2 on a technical level. But it is one of the nicest-looking games I've seen this entire gen.

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#54 MacaroniMoses
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If AW doesn't look as good as U2 it will surely be a bad game. The only hope it has of being a good game is if it has teh best graphix of course!
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#55 gregbmil
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Since people say KZ2 doesn't look better than Uncharted 2 just because it isn't bright and colorful, then how can Alan Wake be considered better? lol

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I don't know what people are talking about with Killzone 2. I just got it about 2 weeks ago, and it has awesome detail on the guns, but the rest of the game don't look like anything special

LOL, also is your charater in KZ2 a "little person" because whenever I go up against one of my team mates I'm always on eye level with there chest. It make me feel like I'm always crouching

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#56 MacaroniMoses
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

Since people say KZ2 doesn't look better than Uncharted 2 just because it isn't bright and colorful, then how can Alan Wake be considered better? lol

gregbmil

I don't know what people are talking about with Killzone 2. I just got it about 2 weeks ago, and it has awesome detail on the guns, but the rest of the game don't look like anything special

LOL, also is your charater in KZ2 a "little person" because whenever I go up against one of my team mates I'm always on eye level with there chest. It make me feel like I'm always crouching

I thought I was the only one to notice Sev is a dwarf since i've never heard it mentioned before! Anyway, that's a different discussion...
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#57 SamGv
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

Since people say KZ2 doesn't look better than Uncharted 2 just because it isn't bright and colorful, then how can Alan Wake be considered better? lol

gregbmil

I don't know what people are talking about with Killzone 2. I just got it about 2 weeks ago, and it has awesome detail on the guns, but the rest of the game don't look like anything special

LOL, also is your charater in KZ2 a "little person" because whenever I go up against one of my team mates I'm always on eye level with there chest. It make me feel like I'm always crouching

you see from the gun's point of view, not your characters eyes.

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#58 Naughty_Dog14
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No. Alan Wake looks good but it can't compare with U2.

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#59 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="daveg1"] thats not what i meant at all i meant ps3 fans talk as if everything on there system is god when they havent even experienced anything out there same go's for 360/wii fanboys..i see it more so with ps3 fans claiming this is better than that..

Same could be said of all fanboys, the truth is, they are insecure and always attempt to justify the their purchase especially after the PS3 failed to deliver to its hype which was basically supposed to be the "god" of all system this gen according to Crazy Ken. -Still waiting for 1080p 120 fps with dual HDMI games-
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#60 delta3074
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[QUOTE="gregbmil"]

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

Since people say KZ2 doesn't look better than Uncharted 2 just because it isn't bright and colorful, then how can Alan Wake be considered better? lol

SamGv

I don't know what people are talking about with Killzone 2. I just got it about 2 weeks ago, and it has awesome detail on the guns, but the rest of the game don't look like anything special

LOL, also is your charater in KZ2 a "little person" because whenever I go up against one of my team mates I'm always on eye level with there chest. It make me feel like I'm always crouching

you see from the gun's point of view, not your characters eyes.

so when you sight down your weapon you are pressing the rifle sight against your chest?
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#61 MacaroniMoses
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[QUOTE="SamGv"]

[QUOTE="gregbmil"]I don't know what people are talking about with Killzone 2. I just got it about 2 weeks ago, and it has awesome detail on the guns, but the rest of the game don't look like anything special

LOL, also is your charater in KZ2 a "little person" because whenever I go up against one of my team mates I'm always on eye level with there chest. It make me feel like I'm always crouching

delta3074

you see from the gun's point of view, not your characters eyes.

so when you sight down your weapon you are pressing the rifle sight against your chest?

No, you don't play as a man, you play as his gun...
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="daveg1"] thats not what i meant at all i meant ps3 fans talk as if everything on there system is god when they havent even experienced anything out there same go's for 360/wii fanboys..i see it more so with ps3 fans claiming this is better than that..

Same could be said of all fanboys, the truth is, they are insecure and always attempt to justify the their purchase especially after the PS3 failed to deliver to its hype which was basically supposed to be the "god" of all system this gen according to Crazy Ken. -Still waiting for 1080p 120 fps with dual HDMI games-

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#63 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="SamGv"]you see from the gun's point of view, not your characters eyes.MacaroniMoses
so when you sight down your weapon you are pressing the rifle sight against your chest?

No, you don't play as a man, you play as his gun...

i hope to god that was sarcasm,lol
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#64 MacaroniMoses
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It seems your sarcasm detector is working.
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#65 Tessellation
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Alan Wake isn't a linear,corridor levels game like UC2,plus it got to render a lot more going on screen + physics.
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#66 vistamanV5
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Id have to agree alot of ppl dont realize that we have only seen the linear sections of AW... its got complete sections of open world areas... We have only seen videos of the linear night sections.. i am in no way shape or form bashing U2 its amazing. But we have to take those factors into consideration... I dont understand why cows cant acknowlegde that a game coming out later might look better than U2... I highly doubt that U2 will be the best looking game of the PS3 lifespans so get a grip.

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#67 nhh18
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Alan Wake isn't a linear,corridor levels game like UC2,plus it got to render a lot more going on screen + physics.Tessellation
No. Going by VIDEOS of the game. It is more linear slow pace and boring.

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#68 vistamanV5
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Alan Wake isn't a linear,corridor levels game like UC2,plus it got to render a lot more going on screen + physics.nhh18

No. Going by VIDEOS of the game. It is more linear slow pace and boring.

You havent read the previews... obv they have not show the entire game... they have only show the night levels... there are complete open world sections of the game.
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#69 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Alan Wake isn't a linear,corridor levels game like UC2,plus it got to render a lot more going on screen + physics.nhh18

No. Going by VIDEOS of the game. It is more linear slow pace and boring.

Yeah because i should believe you and not the developers that already said is open world :lol:
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#70 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Alan Wake isn't a linear,corridor levels game like UC2,plus it got to render a lot more going on screen + physics.Tessellation

No. Going by VIDEOS of the game. It is more linear slow pace and boring.

Yeah because i should believe you and not the developers that already said is open world :lol:

They said the night gameplay is completely linear.

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#71 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Alan Wake isn't a linear,corridor levels game like UC2,plus it got to render a lot more going on screen + physics.vistamanV5

No. Going by VIDEOS of the game. It is more linear slow pace and boring.

You havent read the previews... obv they have not show the entire game... they have only show the night levels... there are complete open world sections of the game.

I read the previews about the open world. It is where you go around talking to locals and turning on light switches in order to play the night stages. Really basically a intrude to the linear night stages and has very little to do with game. Gives me lols because the games main focus is obviously the night time scenes and not the day time.

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[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="nhh18"]No. Going by VIDEOS of the game. It is more linear slow pace and boring.

nhh18

You havent read the previews... obv they have not show the entire game... they have only show the night levels... there are complete open world sections of the game.

I read the previews about the open world. It is where you go around talking to locals and turning on light switches in order to play the night stages. Really basically a intrude to the linear night stages and has very little to do with game. Gives me lols because the games main focus is obviously the night time scenes and not the day time.

Its alot like Folklore man. During the day, you search for clues, talk to people, explore the world. At night is when you tackle the story line because thats when all the crazy stuff happens. I think it will work because i loved folklore, and it makes sense to do it this way, especially with light being such a huge factor in the game/story
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"] You havent read the previews... obv they have not show the entire game... they have only show the night levels... there are complete open world sections of the game.navyguy21

I read the previews about the open world. It is where you go around talking to locals and turning on light switches in order to play the night stages. Really basically a intrude to the linear night stages and has very little to do with game. Gives me lols because the games main focus is obviously the night time scenes and not the day time.

Its alot like Folklore man. During the day, you search for clues, talk to people, explore the world. At night is when you tackle the story line because thats when all the crazy stuff happens. I think it will work because i loved folklore, and it makes sense to do it this way, especially with light being such a huge factor in the game/story

Regardless, this was a graphics discussion thread... Its still an open world... Its still not linear in those sections.. And its still takes a rather impressive engine too do it... We still have yet too see video of those sections but based of the other videos... And that we have not seen it yet i venture too say its going to be pretty fricken impressive.
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"] You havent read the previews... obv they have not show the entire game... they have only show the night levels... there are complete open world sections of the game.navyguy21

I read the previews about the open world. It is where you go around talking to locals and turning on light switches in order to play the night stages. Really basically a intrude to the linear night stages and has very little to do with game. Gives me lols because the games main focus is obviously the night time scenes and not the day time.

Its alot like Folklore man. During the day, you search for clues, talk to people, explore the world. At night is when you tackle the story line because thats when all the crazy stuff happens. I think it will work because i loved folklore, and it makes sense to do it this way, especially with light being such a huge factor in the game/story

I am not really interested in this game (probably going to buy splinter cell conviction mass effect 2, god of war 3, and modnation racers) but I may check it out in a bargain bin later with a couple of other games if it reviews high (heavy rain, and bayonetta).

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#76 nhh18
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="nhh18"]I read the previews about the open world. It is where you go around talking to locals and turning on light switches in order to play the night stages. Really basically a intrude to the linear night stages and has very little to do with game. Gives me lols because the games main focus is obviously the night time scenes and not the day time.

vistamanV5

Its alot like Folklore man. During the day, you search for clues, talk to people, explore the world. At night is when you tackle the story line because thats when all the crazy stuff happens. I think it will work because i loved folklore, and it makes sense to do it this way, especially with light being such a huge factor in the game/story

Regardless, this was a graphics discussion thread... Its still an open world... Its still not linear in those sections.. And its still takes a rather impressive engine too do it... We still have yet too see video of those sections but based of the other videos... And that we have not seen it yet i venture too say its going to be pretty fricken impressive.

we haven't seen anything on the sandbox elements in 3 years. Everything we are basing on (in terms of graphics) is the linear nighttime stages.

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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="daveg1"] thats not what i meant at all i meant ps3 fans talk as if everything on there system is god when they havent even experienced anything out there same go's for 360/wii fanboys..i see it more so with ps3 fans claiming this is better than that..SaltyMeatballs
Same could be said of all fanboys, the truth is, they are insecure and always attempt to justify the their purchase especially after the PS3 failed to deliver to its hype which was basically supposed to be the "god" of all system this gen according to Crazy Ken. -Still waiting for 1080p 120 fps with dual HDMI games-

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Exactly!!!They really over hyped ps3...motorstorm on e3 2005 looked like movie also...they promised too much and didnt deliver.MS that you like to bash so much actually showed gears of war and said simply that ps3 and x360 capabilities are on par...only sony said it will be big difference...now on topic,Alan Wakes lightning whips the floor with any game this game on consoles...from what i seen a daylight scene looked amazing,better then Uncharted 2...will see,I remember Max Payne 2 when it came out it was one of the best looking game,no doubt Alan Wake will look at least close to Uncharted 2 if not on par(after all Uncharted 2 is linear as you can get,still console gfx king).

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#78 vistamanV5
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[QUOTE="vistamanV5"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Its alot like Folklore man. During the day, you search for clues, talk to people, explore the world. At night is when you tackle the story line because thats when all the crazy stuff happens. I think it will work because i loved folklore, and it makes sense to do it this way, especially with light being such a huge factor in the game/storynhh18

Regardless, this was a graphics discussion thread... Its still an open world... Its still not linear in those sections.. And its still takes a rather impressive engine too do it... We still have yet too see video of those sections but based of the other videos... And that we have not seen it yet i venture too say its going to be pretty fricken impressive.

we haven't seen anything on the sandbox elements in 3 years. Everything we are basing on (in terms of graphics) is the linear nighttime stages.

I know , but since the linear sections look amazing... its a safe bet the open world sections look amazing as well..
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#79 caribo2222
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Has anyone actually seen AW's new vid, the lighting is amazing,HDR used perfectly and the clothing and character models look amazing. UC2 is a beast on the graphics end, but they both have completely different artstyles, so it's hard to say. We would really need to look at a technical side of it to get a good comparison.

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I really doubt it, but it would be nice to have a gorgeous looking game... once again :)

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#81 ToScA-
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Most Uncharted 2 fans don't know anything about graphics.

They often mistake elements of it's art direction for technical achievements. They rely on still images and base their conclusion on whats more appealing to the eye. That is not how you compare graphics. Maybe art styIe, but not graphics. That being said, I don't think Uncharted 2's engine is capable of running AW's world without taking a performance hit. In other words, it wasn't built for AW's gameplay.

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Good post (as usual from you). I concur.
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#82 uyiop0t
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Honestly, I don't think the graphics for Alan Wake are better than the graphics for Uncharted, but I do like the setting and the atmospheric feel of the game. I don't care which game LOOKS better, all I know is Alan Wake looks like it's going to be a sweet game and I want to try it when it comes out.
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#83 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="Vadamee"]I think it looks as good as Uncharted 2, but I feel its a more impressive achievement graphically given AW's scale and open-end.Panosola

I think Alan Wake it will be look better than U2.........8)

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Nope. Never;)

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#84 rolo107
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It might be in the same ballpark, but definitely not better.
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 Lol sorry just had to do it.
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#86 eNT1TY
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Lems will NEVER accept a 2 year old (by the time Alan Wake releases) PS3 title will look better than their flagship graphics showcase title with twice the dev time as KZ2. GeOW 3 has a better chance maybe lems should pin their hopes on that. I similarly don't see any PS3 games surpassing UC2 in the near future until UC3 itself is released. This is my crystal ball prediction: GeOW 3 screenshots are realeased... hundreds of cows post 'Teh Bullshots' .... a lil later: UC3 screenshots released.. hundreds of lems post 'Teh Bullshots'....
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Lems will NEVER accept a 2 year old (by the time Alan Wake releases) PS3 title will look better than their flagship graphics showcase title with twice the dev time as KZ2. GeOW 3 has a better chance maybe lems should pin their hopes on that. I similarly don't see any PS3 games surpassing UC2 in the near future until UC3 itself is released. This is my crystal ball prediction: GeOW 3 screenshots are realeased... hundreds of cows post 'Teh Bullshots' .... a lil later: UC3 screenshots released.. hundreds of lems post 'Teh Bullshots'.... eNT1TY
.................. Dude it comes out in May.
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from the most recent videos so far, i find alan wake to look a lot better than uc2, especially in the atmosphere and gameplay departments.
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]From what I've seen it's certainly worth contending for 2nd place (console gfx king) but we haven't seen anything on the final build yet except screenshots (lighting looks great though). Wait 'til we see more about it before making a case.Odrec
I believe there were some gameplay vids already.

That have hardly showed anything and aren't final build.
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#90 Floppy_Jim
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5 years of development vs 18 months....let's hope so.
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5 years of development vs 18 months....let's hope so.Floppy_Jim
That's pretty much the same joke for KZ2 minus 6-10 months
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[QUOTE="eNT1TY"]Lems will NEVER accept a 2 year old (by the time Alan Wake releases) PS3 title will look better than their flagship graphics showcase title with twice the dev time as KZ2. GeOW 3 has a better chance maybe lems should pin their hopes on that. I similarly don't see any PS3 games surpassing UC2 in the near future until UC3 itself is released. This is my crystal ball prediction: GeOW 3 screenshots are realeased... hundreds of cows post 'Teh Bullshots' .... a lil later: UC3 screenshots released.. hundreds of lems post 'Teh Bullshots'.... vistamanV5
.................. Dude it comes out in May.

I was not aware it was that close to release (may is indeed quite close assuming it meets its release date). That still puts it a little under 7 years of dev time (since its first mention) and a few more years than KZ2. I still stand by my post on all accounts.
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#93 13C
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kz2 is graphic king of consoles. Uncharted 2 is second

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#94 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]5 years of development vs 18 months....let's hope so.moose_knuckler
That's pretty much the same joke for KZ2 minus 6-10 months

To answer you and the other guy I think it's 4 years for KZ, 5 for AW. I don't know where 7 years came from.
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#95 djsifer01
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We will have to wait and see. I highly doubt it will be any were near as good graphically than UC2.
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#96 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="opex07"]

We have only really seen a couple scenes of Alan wake, and it isn't always during the night, their are also day segments that make up a large part of the game, as well as the game is open world, while uncharted is linear.

AW WAS open world, now it's linear.

It's still open world.

Indeed. Open world=/=Sandbox
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#97 painguy1
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It has its advantages, weaknesses

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#98 Dead-Memories
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Alan Wake looks to be an incredible experience, and given Remdey's track record, is not bound to dissapoint.

It does have its share of eye-candy, and whether or not it will surpass UC 2 at this point is just mere speculation, not enough has been seen.

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#99 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="daveg1"] keep beleing that son...all you sony fans cowering over this one machine called the ps3 need to start polaying other machines aswel as the one you,ve got just so you know what your talking about..daveg1
Why do people/lems always say PS3 fans "cower" or "hide" behind things? it's so juvenile. Someone has an opinion so they're automatically hiding? right.

thats not what i meant at all i meant ps3 fans talk as if everything on there system is god when they havent even experienced anything out there same go's for 360/wii fanboys..i see it more so with ps3 fans claiming this is better than that..

I'm sorry but you obviously have not looked hard enough if you think "ps3 fans" are the only ones doing it. 360/wii fanboys have been claiming their games are god creations as well at the same level as cows.

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Most Uncharted 2 fans don't know anything about graphics.

They often mistake elements of it's art direction for technical achievements. They rely on still images and base their conclusion on whats more appealing to the eye. That is not how you compare graphics. Maybe art styIe, but not graphics. That being said, I don't think Uncharted 2's engine is capable of running AW's world without taking a performance hit. In other words, it wasn't built for AW's gameplay.

Blue-Sky

Alan wake has lots of screen tearing and it uses lots of blur to cover up textures.

I think the Uncharted 2 engine is better