Alan Wake has vastly superior foliage than Killzone 3

It wasn't long ago when Alan Wake was released and Remedy came out with their next masterpiece. I am here to debunk System War's thinking that Killzone 3 might be graphics king. Because it is very much missing in one very big aspect: foliage.

As you can see there is close to no foliage on the ground, it is simply just white stuff with random wrinkles and holes in it. It's clear that Guerrilla Games has no feeling, no passion for snow. Remedy on the other hand take pride in their jungle foliage

as one can see, there is lots of plants and green vegetation on the ground, it's quite detailed. You can see the mud on the ground very well and it allows one to connect with the character seeing as he's in a very dangerous environment. The realism portrayed in Alan Wake is like no other, it has top notch voice acting along with great environments, here is a picture of Alan Wake:

This in-game screenshot is like no other with fantastic lighting that beats out Killzone's lighting where light seems to come out of every single direction, it also showcases the amount of leaves in the tree, and the high res details in his jacket are just astonishingly well made.

I gotta feeling your trolling.... Alan Wake looks amazing... Cows will never admit it... At its best is up there with UC2... Its just kinda inconsistent... The whole foliage arguement is stupid considering KZ3 is set on a destroyed world.... Regardless KZ3 looks super sweet can wait for it... vistamanV5

I am not trolling. While that may be true, the fact still remains that Alan Wake DOES have better foliage, regardless of the fact that KZ3 is set on a destroyed world. Its enviornments are foliage-less.

Crysis has the best looking foliage. I'm here to debunk any myth that a console game can look remotely better and has a shot in hell at "graphics king" Heil68

Yes but this is Alan Wake vs Killzone 3, not Crysis vs console games :)

this is an obligatory post especially for foliage topics and is that seekar as tc by any chance :S cause he's the only one i have ever seen bleet bout teh foliage lol.

On a more serious note why are you even bothered bout trees and grass?

I thought all agreed Fable is the foliage king ? :o

Yeah, I think Crysis reigns supreme once again. :P

Ugh not again.

this is an obligatory post especially for foliage topics and is that seekar as tc by any chance :S cause he's the only one i have ever seen bleet bout teh foliage lol.

On a more serious note why are you even bothered bout trees and grass?

razgriz_101

trees + grass = better foliage than snow. Isn't foliage important when discussing graphics? Killzone 3 doesn't have much of it so why is it a graphics king competitor?

Hang on, wait, so Alan Wake's foliage looks better than Killzone 3's because Killzone 3 hasn't got any foliage, just snow. Fair enough...TheOtherTheoG

There we go, thanks you :) that's exactly what I'm saying. There's nothing wrong with it, it's completely true.

KZ3 has better snow than Alan Wake.

I look at KZ3's snow and think, wow - that's some very white snow there.

I look at Alan Wake's and think....it hasn't even got any. :P

Edit: Seriously though, does it matter?

As you can see there is close to no foliage on the ground, it is simply just white stuff with random wrinkles and holes in it. It's clear that Guerrilla Games has no feeling, no passion for snow. Remedy on the other hand take pride in their jungle foliage

GGam3r

7/10 :?

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this is an obligatory post especially for foliage topics and is that seekar as tc by any chance :S cause he's the only one i have ever seen bleet bout teh foliage lol.

On a more serious note why are you even bothered bout trees and grass?

GGam3r

trees + grass = better foliage than snow. Isn't foliage important when discussing graphics? Killzone 3 doesn't have much of it so why is it a graphics king competitor?

Foliage is extremely minor when it comes to the big guns like overall resolution of the image,texture sizes,model detail,how much poly's are being pushed and last but not least the artstyle of the image/product.

But lol how you damage control with but snow isnt foliage no we know it isnt its a thing called weather.

[QUOTE="TheOtherTheoG"]Hang on, wait, so Alan Wake's foliage looks better than Killzone 3's because Killzone 3 hasn't got any foliage, just snow. Fair enough...GGam3r

There we go, thanks you :) that's exactly what I'm saying. There's nothing wrong with it, it's completely true.

[QUOTE="GGam3r"]

As you can see there is close to no foliage on the ground, it is simply just white stuff with random wrinkles and holes in it. It's clear that Guerrilla Games has no feeling, no passion for snow. Remedy on the other hand take pride in their jungle foliage

VensInferno

7/10 :?

:o my topics are being rated? I agree I do have some troll in me, everyone does, but there is no denying the fact that the foliage in Alan Wake is superior to that of Killzone 3 because, well. There isn't any in KZ3.

[QUOTE="TheOtherTheoG"]Hang on, wait, so Alan Wake's foliage looks better than Killzone 3's because Killzone 3 hasn't got any foliage, just snow. Fair enough...GGam3r

There we go, thanks you :) that's exactly what I'm saying. There's nothing wrong with it, it's completely true.

You are saying more than that. You are trying to claim the graphics crown on the basis of better foliage exclusively. That's like saying GTA4 has better graphics than RDR because it has better looking cars.

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As you can see there is close to no foliage on the ground, it is simply just white stuff with random wrinkles and holes in it. It's clear that Guerrilla Games has no feeling, no passion for snow. Remedy on the other hand take pride in their jungle foliage

GGam3r

7/10 :?

:o my topics are being rated? I agree I do have some troll in me, everyone does, but there is no denying the fact that the foliage in Alan Wake is superior to that of Killzone 3 because, well. There isn't any in KZ3.

Isn't that kind of like saying that Gran Turismo 5 has vastly superior car models to Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, because Brotherhood doesn't have any cars?TheOtherTheoG

Yes, but all racing games need cars, action/adventure games don't need cars, but ALL games need environments and foliage very much helps the environment and details of characters. So it's not at all like that.

Your comparing snow to jungle.... Did you hear that Killzone 3 has jungle to :O Does Alan Wake have snow!?!? I think not .

VensInferno

[QUOTE="TheOtherTheoG"]Isn't that kind of like saying that Gran Turismo 5 has vastly superior car models to Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, because Brotherhood doesn't have any cars?GGam3r

Yes, but all racing games need cars, action/adventure games don't need cars, but ALL games need environments and foliage very much helps the environment and details of characters. So it's not at all like that.

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[QUOTE="VensInferno"] Thats what snow is :roll: Any way, Tc from your previous post.....YOU CANT FOOL ME!:twisted: I can see you added lots of text to conceal your inner troll.

7/10 :?

VensInferno

:o my topics are being rated? I agree I do have some troll in me, everyone does, but there is no denying the fact that the foliage in Alan Wake is superior to that of Killzone 3 because, well. There isn't any in KZ3.

oh, wow, I never noticed that. Either way, until we see some real pictures of the KZ3 jungle level, Alan Wake still has superior foliage.

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[QUOTE="TheOtherTheoG"]Isn't that kind of like saying that Gran Turismo 5 has vastly superior car models to Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, because Brotherhood doesn't have any cars?Ravensmash

Yes, but all racing games need cars, action/adventure games don't need cars, but ALL games need environments and foliage very much helps the environment and details of characters. So it's not at all like that.

I don't understand. Environment with foliage >> Environment without foliage. I'm not comparing actual games, only the environments and details.

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:o my topics are being rated? I agree I do have some troll in me, everyone does, but there is no denying the fact that the foliage in Alan Wake is superior to that of Killzone 3 because, well. There isn't any in KZ3.

GGam3r

oh, wow, I never noticed that. Either way, until we see some real pictures of the KZ3 jungle level, Alan Wake still has superior foliage.

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[QUOTE="VensInferno"]Yes there is :?

Ravensmash

oh, wow, I never noticed that. Either way, until we see some real pictures of the KZ3 jungle level, Alan Wake still has superior foliage.

Superior to Killzone 3 :?

lol, this guy is obsessed with foliage.

Superior to what?Ravensmash

Hey, you're alive.

This doesn't make any sense..... so going by your arguement and methodology I could say Ghostbusters has better ghosts than Crysis, therefore making Ghostbusters the better looking game

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oh, wow, I never noticed that. Either way, until we see some real pictures of the KZ3 jungle level, Alan Wake still has superior foliage.

waltefmoney

Superior to Killzone 3 :?

Edit: Wow, quotes mucked up big time :P

But hi Waltefmoney :D

If Alan Wake does something right that is foliage and lightning. Some of the best i have ever seen!

If Alan Wake does something right that is foliage and lightning. Some of the best i have ever seen!

PAL360

Alan Wake looks as dull and boring as its gameplay. That's why no one talks about its graphics.

Uncharted uses such a pleasent colour palette.

Where are the "Best Graphic Awards" from Alan Wake? Cus I haven't seen any...

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of-2010/special-achievement/index.html?page=3

http://www.spike.com/event/vga/page/vote/category/40607/best-graphics

Where are the "Best Graphic Awards" from Alan Wake? Cus I haven't seen any...

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of-2010/special-achievement/index.html?page=3

http://www.spike.com/event/vga/page/vote/category/40607/best-graphics

Gue1

If only Gamespot awards meant anything or anyone even cared beyond ownage.

Killzone 3 has vastly superior snow than Alan Wake.

Guerrilla Games put passion in making that snow, while Alan Wake hasno snow.

How can Alan Wake be a graphics king contender without any snow ?

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Your comparing snow to jungle.... Did you hear that Killzone 3 has jungle to :O Does Alan Wake have snow!?!? I think not .

musicalmac

I thought all agreed Fable is the foliage king ? :o

Yeah, I think Crysis reigns supreme once again. :P

SecretPolice

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Your comparing snow to jungle.... Did you hear that Killzone 3 has jungle to :O Does Alan Wake have snow!?!? I think not .

Heil68

...or Skyrim...but we have yet to see how will it look :P

ah, yes, where would system wars be without saolin/obamanian/seekar/ablefa3/sacred mg?

I knew this would happen eventually.

I knew this would happen eventually.

Grawse

This is the most pointless thread, How could you have predicted this?

Killzone 3 looks beutifull, cant wait for its Feb release.

this is an obligatory post especially for foliage topics and is that seekar as tc by any chance :S cause he's the only one i have ever seen bleet bout teh foliage lol.

On a more serious note why are you even bothered bout trees and grass?

razgriz_101