Alan Wake has vastly superior foliage than Killzone 3

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#51 Chutebox
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I gotta feeling your trolling.... Alan Wake looks amazing... Cows will never admit it... At its best is up there with UC2... Its just kinda inconsistent... The whole foliage arguement is stupid considering KZ3 is set on a destroyed world.... Regardless KZ3 looks super sweet can wait for it... vistamanV5
nah, it still isnt up there at it's best, but it does look awesome. also, someone is trying too hard too sound like saolin.
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#52 Sandvichman
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Are there even any plants in killzone 3?

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#53 hexashadow13
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But does it have snow? Alan Wake doesn't have any good snow? So how can it even be a contender for graphics king?

Killzone 3 has amazing snow, which makes it a contender. Not a winner though. :P

The snow on the ground and effects with snow look better in Crysis, but personally the snow blowing around looks better in KZ3 to me. Still, as always Crysis wins.

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#54 tommyas
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On that KZ3 level isnt much foliage... dont you see where it takes place?? Wow.
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#55 thetruespin
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Ahh yes, bullshots of Alan Wake and Killzone.

Read:http://www.digitalscrutiny.com/content/2010/12/bullshots-the-ugly-truth/

Both games don't do foliage particularly well if we're honest.

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#56 dvalo9
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who was that user that had a thing for foliage back in may?
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As you can see there is close to no foliage on the ground, it is simply just white stuff with random wrinkles and holes in it. It's clear that Guerrilla Games has no feeling, no passion for snow. Remedy on the other hand take pride in their jungle foliage

as one can see, there is lots of plants and green vegetation on the ground, it's quite detailed. You can see the mud on the ground very well and it allows one to connect with the character seeing as he's in a very dangerous environment. The realism portrayed in Alan Wake is like no other, it has top notch voice acting along with great environments, here is a picture of Alan Wake:

This in-game screenshot is like no other with fantastic lighting that beats out Killzone's lighting where light seems to come out of every single direction, it also showcases the amount of leaves in the tree, and the high res details in his jacket are just astonishingly well made.

GGam3r

That foilage LITERALLY looks like it was hijacked from an N64 game--there's just more of it.

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#58 omho88
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Foliage threads strike again. Cool, it has been awhile. Did anyone notice AW doesn't have jetpacks at all :D .
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#59 clone01
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="GGam3r"]

As you can see there is close to no foliage on the ground, it is simply just white stuff with random wrinkles and holes in it. It's clear that Guerrilla Games has no feeling, no passion for snow. Remedy on the other hand take pride in their jungle foliage

as one can see, there is lots of plants and green vegetation on the ground, it's quite detailed. You can see the mud on the ground very well and it allows one to connect with the character seeing as he's in a very dangerous environment. The realism portrayed in Alan Wake is like no other, it has top notch voice acting along with great environments, here is a picture of Alan Wake:

This in-game screenshot is like no other with fantastic lighting that beats out Killzone's lighting where light seems to come out of every single direction, it also showcases the amount of leaves in the tree, and the high res details in his jacket are just astonishingly well made.

That foilage LITERALLY looks like it was hijacked from an N64 game--there's just more of it.

have you played alan wake? i'm not going to really go as far as our tc, obamanian/saolin/sacredmg/ablefa3/seekar/ancientdevine, but Alan Wake does look pretty darn good.
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#60 kuraimen
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This is the worst case of foliagephilia I've seen and i've seen plenty.
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#61 NAPK1NS
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I'm on an internet forum debating the graphical prowess of the grass in two different games. Why do I stay here?

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#62 chaplainDMK
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This seems oddly familiar...
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#63 clone01
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This seems oddly familiar... chaplainDMK
be sure to report users who ban dodge *cough saolin/obamanian/seekar/sacredmg/ablefa3/devineancient *cough.
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#64 akira2465
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27534823&msg_id=327218671#327218671

Looks like the TC took my suggestion too seriously, it was a joke post TC :P Good job though, your next mission is to make a thread regarding pants graphics king

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#65 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="GGam3r"]

As you can see there is close to no foliage on the ground, it is simply just white stuff with random wrinkles and holes in it. It's clear that Guerrilla Games has no feeling, no passion for snow. Remedy on the other hand take pride in their jungle foliage

as one can see, there is lots of plants and green vegetation on the ground, it's quite detailed. You can see the mud on the ground very well and it allows one to connect with the character seeing as he's in a very dangerous environment. The realism portrayed in Alan Wake is like no other, it has top notch voice acting along with great environments, here is a picture of Alan Wake:

This in-game screenshot is like no other with fantastic lighting that beats out Killzone's lighting where light seems to come out of every single direction, it also showcases the amount of leaves in the tree, and the high res details in his jacket are just astonishingly well made.

clone01

That foilage LITERALLY looks like it was hijacked from an N64 game--there's just more of it.

have you played alan wake? i'm not going to really go as far as our tc, obamanian/saolin/sacredmg/ablefa3/seekar/ancientdevine, but Alan Wake does look pretty darn good.

Briefly. And yes, it is a pretty good looking game for a console game. It's consistent, which imo is just as important as super duper high definition. I don't own it because I found it rather boring. Maybe I'll get around to it when the price drops considerably.

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#66 chikenfriedrice
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Alan Wake was photo realistic in some parts....problem was it was inconsistent but still an amazing looking game

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#67 AndyAlfredo
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Come on. Yesterday's Uncharted one was sorta funny, but this one is just sad.

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#68 poseidonwest
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My backyard has better foliage than Alan Wake

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#70 Dead-Memories
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alan wake is awesome.

enough has been said.

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#71 KlepticGrooves
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Strange topic, very strange...

You shouldn't even attempt to compare foliage between Killzone 3 and Alan Wake. It's like comparing cars between Forza 3 and Fight Night Round 4.

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#72 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]I gotta feeling your trolling.... Alan Wake looks amazing... Cows will never admit it... At its best is up there with UC2... Its just kinda inconsistent... The whole foliage arguement is stupid considering KZ3 is set on a destroyed world.... Regardless KZ3 looks super sweet can wait for it... GGam3r

I am not trolling. While that may be true, the fact still remains that Alan Wake DOES have better foliage, regardless of the fact that KZ3 is set on a destroyed world. Its enviornments are foliage-less.

So by your logic, Killzone 3 has better Helghast soldiers than Alan Wake? And everything it has that Alan Wake doesn't is better? I'm a little confused... but okay.
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#73 Hatiko
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Isn't that kind of like saying that Gran Turismo 5 has vastly superior car models to Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, because Brotherhood doesn't have any cars?TheOtherTheoG

Brotherhood does have cars, :P

And TC, what do you mean by Jungle. You do know it's a forest right?

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#74 chaplainDMK
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My backyard has better foliage than Alan Wake

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And we have a winner, evreybody pack up their bags, this is the comment of the year.
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#75 cainetao11
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it's topics like this, that prove to me some people in here have no idea why the average consumer buys and plays games. I am a gamer, have been for a long time, and I don't see how or why this would even matter.
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#76 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="GGam3r"]

[QUOTE="TheOtherTheoG"]Hang on, wait, so Alan Wake's foliage looks better than Killzone 3's because Killzone 3 hasn't got any foliage, just snow. Fair enough...VensInferno

There we go, thanks you :) that's exactly what I'm saying. There's nothing wrong with it, it's completely true.

Your comparing snow to jungle.... Did you hear that Killzone 3 has jungle to :o Does Alan Wake have snow!?!? I think not .

I think GG said kz3 will have an urban jungle. So it still has no foliage :P

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#77 lhughey
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not even Crysis has better jackets. Alan Wake is still the jacket king
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#78 lhughey
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[QUOTE="GGam3r"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]I gotta feeling your trolling.... Alan Wake looks amazing... Cows will never admit it... At its best is up there with UC2... Its just kinda inconsistent... The whole foliage arguement is stupid considering KZ3 is set on a destroyed world.... Regardless KZ3 looks super sweet can wait for it... Blabadon

I am not trolling. While that may be true, the fact still remains that Alan Wake DOES have better foliage, regardless of the fact that KZ3 is set on a destroyed world. Its enviornments are foliage-less.

So by your logic, Killzone 3 has better Helghast soldiers than Alan Wake? And everything it has that Alan Wake doesn't is better? I'm a little confused... but okay.

Stop pointing out obvious things. Everyone already knows that KZ2 is the Helghast king. Its also the Annoying Rico King, since AW doesn't have any annoying Ricos.

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#79 Gxgear
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The foilage king shall reign supreme! :lol:

Only one person has made this ridiculous claim before, bandodger?

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#80 tomarlyn
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Yes the first thing I look for when playing an FPS is always the digital plants. Does Alan Wake even have good shooting? Or guns for that matter? Since we're comparing two different genre's with no relation to each others concepts.
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#81 OmegaPillow
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Man youre right, screw KZ2, i`m going to play alan wake and stare at the trees.

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#82 ps3wizard45
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Killzone 2 & 3 looks better than Alan Wake in every way but, Alan Wake is a far better game than Killzone 2 (& 3 will over be)

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#83 Bus-A-Bus
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It does not matter much when you push twice less pixels on the screen...

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#84 AcidSoldner
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It does not matter much when you push twice less pixels on the screen...

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Pretty much this. While KZ2 & 3 have better graphics overall, Alan wake has them beat with its absolutely gorgeous foliage but at the cost of an extremely low resolution.
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#85 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

this is an obligatory post especially for foliage topics and is that seekar as tc by any chance :S cause he's the only one i have ever seen bleet bout teh foliage lol.

On a more serious note why are you even bothered bout trees and grass?

GGam3r

trees + grass = better foliage than snow. Isn't foliage important when discussing graphics? Killzone 3 doesn't have much of it so why is it a graphics king competitor?

Macaroni = cheese = better meal then grass. Isn't cheese important when discussing graphics? Alan Wake doesn't have much of it so why is it a graphics king competitor?

See I can do that to.

the amount of leaves is not relevant to graphics, the leaves could be replaced with paper and it would make no difference, as long a its still high res.

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#86 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="TheOtherTheoG"]Isn't that kind of like saying that Gran Turismo 5 has vastly superior car models to Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, because Brotherhood doesn't have any cars?GGam3r

Yes, but all racing games need cars, action/adventure games don't need cars, but ALL games need environments and foliage very much helps the environment and details of characters. So it's not at all like that.


You are making weak generalizations. Environmental elements ie. foliage are dependant on setting. I take it that you've never played Doom 3 or Dead Space, because there is no foliage whatsoever. So why should Killzone be any different?