Alienware X51 Vs. the Next gen consoles...

which version of the X51? Cause if you are getting the entry level one the answer is PS4.  Either way alienware isn't worth it.  They cost too much.  Don't be a novice and build your own rig.  With the money you would have given them you could build something twice as good.

Lol @ alienwareNEWMAHAY

Ugh, Alienware? Guy, if you're looking for a small form factor PC get an iBuyPower Revolt:

http://www.ibuypower.com/info/revolt/home.aspx

A Falcon Northwest Tikki

http://www.falcon-nw.com/desktops/tiki

or the Digital Storm Bolt

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadbolt.asp?id=734513&price=%24999

AVOID ALIENWARE LIKE THE PLAGUE!!! They're unbelievably overpriced. You could get a seriously decked out Revolt for far cheaper than an Alienware.

iBuy Power is the most affordable

Falcon Northwest charges quite a bit

and Digital Storm is a little pricey, but not ridiculously so.

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]Lol @ alienwareBadosh

So I have wondering how the X51 stacks up against the PS4 and Next XBOX in terms of processing power, visuals and overall gaming capabilities. I am in no way a hardcore PC gamer and have absolutely NO interest in building a PC and investing time in this part and that part. However, when I consider that almost every single major 3rd party game is available on the consoles and PC, the X51 kind of makes some sense considering the price point is very close to what I feel the PS4 and next XBOX will be.ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Are you fvcking kidding me?

If you get the Revolt, make sure to upgrade to at least the 660ti, the 500w power supply, and get 8Gb of RAM. 

Console gamers will say pick console

PC gamers will say build your own, alienware rip you off

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Jesus no. If you want a gaming PC, just build one. It's literally like putting lego together.

If you want something just as strong as a PS4 then I suggest just buyign a PS4, it will likely run games similarly and you get exclusives on top of that.

And also Alienware suck for the price

Jesus no. If you want a gaming PC, just build one. It's literally like putting lego together.

If you want something just as strong as a PS4 then I suggest just buyign a PS4, it will likely run games similarly and you get exclusives on top of that.

And also Alienware suck for the price

seanmcloughlin

I am assuming he just wants something in a small form factor akin to a console, and let's be honest, it's a bitch building those kind of rigs unless you have little baby hands. I would much rather simply buy something like the Revolt rather than go through the hassle of building one that's that small. The smallest case I would ever even try to build a rig in would be the Bitfenix Prodigy. It's just too much of a hassle to do anything smaller. 

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]Lol @ alienwareMotokid6

yep part of the fun is the tweaking.  I get just as much fun out of that as I do playing games.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Jesus no. If you want a gaming PC, just build one. It's literally like putting lego together.

If you want something just as strong as a PS4 then I suggest just buyign a PS4, it will likely run games similarly and you get exclusives on top of that.

And also Alienware suck for the price

cfisher2833

I am assuming he just wants something in a small form factor akin to a console, and let's be honest, it's a bitch building those kind of rigs unless you have little baby hands. I would much rather simply buy something like the Revolt rather than go through the hassle of building one that's that small. The smallest case I would ever even try to build a rig in would be the Bitfenix Prodigy. It's just too much of a hassle to do anything smaller. 

Still though if he wants something the same price range and power as a console as well as form factor then buying a console seems like the better option. If you're gonna half ass PC gaming then it's not really worth it TBH, consoles are far easier to work

[QUOTE="cfisher2833"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Jesus no. If you want a gaming PC, just build one. It's literally like putting lego together.

If you want something just as strong as a PS4 then I suggest just buyign a PS4, it will likely run games similarly and you get exclusives on top of that.

And also Alienware suck for the price

seanmcloughlin

I am assuming he just wants something in a small form factor akin to a console, and let's be honest, it's a bitch building those kind of rigs unless you have little baby hands. I would much rather simply buy something like the Revolt rather than go through the hassle of building one that's that small. The smallest case I would ever even try to build a rig in would be the Bitfenix Prodigy. It's just too much of a hassle to do anything smaller. 

Still though if he wants something the same price range and power as a console as well as form factor then buying a console seems like the better option. If you're gonna half ass PC gaming then it's not really worth it TBH, consoles are far easier to work

I don't really think it's half-assing it. Shit, I just played around with the customization options for the Revolt, and you're barely paying anything for the assembly costs. You have to pay something of course, but you're hardly getting shafted. 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Jesus no. If you want a gaming PC, just build one. It's literally like putting lego together.

If you want something just as strong as a PS4 then I suggest just buyign a PS4, it will likely run games similarly and you get exclusives on top of that.

And also Alienware suck for the price

cfisher2833

I am assuming he just wants something in a small form factor akin to a console, and let's be honest, it's a bitch building those kind of rigs unless you have little baby hands. I would much rather simply buy something like the Revolt rather than go through the hassle of building one that's that small. The smallest case I would ever even try to build a rig in would be the Bitfenix Prodigy. It's just too much of a hassle to do anything smaller. 

i plan on building a small form factor "console killer" next year.  My rig is already better than the PS4 but i want to move it back to my desk and have my "console killer" connected to my TV instead.  I like building and fixing stuff though so I'm up for the challenge.  I'm just waiting for the next gen graphics cards to come out.  

Lol @ alienwareNEWMAHAY

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]Lol @ alienwarecrapbox720

[QUOTE="crapbox720"][QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]Lol @ alienwarePCgameruk

Lol @ alienwareNEWMAHAY

nah. the base model won't run shit. Alienware PC's are bad. you are better off building your own PC. or just buy a PS4 or the next XBOX.AcidThunder

[QUOTE="crapbox720"][QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]Lol @ alienwarePCgameruk

[QUOTE="AcidThunder"]nah. the base model won't run shit. Alienware PC's are bad. you are better off building your own PC. or just buy a PS4 or the next XBOX.crapbox720

[QUOTE="crapbox720"][QUOTE="AcidThunder"]nah. the base model won't run shit. Alienware PC's are bad. you are better off building your own PC. or just buy a PS4 or the next XBOX.AcidThunder

Lol @ alienwareNEWMAHAY

LOL @ Windows PC. It's only getting worse for PC.

LOL @ Windows PC. It's only getting worse for PC.

Mr_BillGates

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

LOL @ Windows PC. It's only getting worse for PC.

Lazer-Sniper51

Alienware.

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

I love how no one answered his question. Ask a question, get 100 different answers without answering the topic. Only in System Wars.

A PC is the obvisouly more cost effective strategy over the PS4, assuming you need a new PC anyway.

Cost of new lame laptop + PS4 > than a small for factor gamign PC. And the small for factor gaming PC will do what a lame laptop does, only better/faster, AND it'll play 95% of the PS4 library anyway. The other 5% of exclusives, you can try in 4 years when you can get a PS4 cheap, or who knows, it's likely that you'll be able to stream the exclusives to a smart TV or PC in the future anyway.

LOL @ Windows PC. It's only getting worse for PC.

Mr_BillGates

indeed its disgusting what microsoft is doing. Its one of the biggest reasons i don't want to build a new pc. I dont want to pay for an awful os but at the same time i don't want to use an older dated os that wont be supported as well.

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]Lol @ alienwareBadosh

LOL @ Windows PC. It's only getting worse for PC.

Mr_BillGates

I have an AW laptop but they are the best gaming notebooks; even better than the Sagers you get from resellers.  The cooling and components are top notch.  Their desktops are a bit different.  They aren't as high end when compared to companies like Ibuypower et al.  Way too many people on here who have never built a PC just are conditioned to say "build one."  I have built many PCs and honestly I will never build one again for the following reasons:

1. Time is money and I am a busy professional.  I don't have time to go through all the component testing and RMA once I isolate a problem. Each component has a warranty but you have to RMA based on each component's warranty.

2. It's nice to get a custom PC from a company that does good work and isn't super expensive. Ibuypower is very reasonable with price.

Now as much as AW desktops are overpriced, they also have great 20-30% off coupons every few months.  You can also go through Dell Outlet if you are in the states.  I have thousands of posts in other desktop/notebook forums and basically it's very common practice at gamespot for people to just ay "build one" but they have never actually built one themselves.  While it's not hard, it is time consuming and in many cases, when soemthing goes wrong, it's a bit tedious to have to troubleshoot on your own.  Building is really only advised if you have the time, enjoy building things, and are on a strict budget and looking for the best ROI. 

Generally I would recommend: an average i7 CPU as they are ridiculously fast.  A single solution mid-upper tier GPU is more than enough for 1080p gaming.  SLI is mainly needed for high resolution/multiple monitors.  Invest upfront on a great chipset, a top notch powersupply and case.  The CPU/GPU can be upgraded with little to no hassle. 

I hope this helps.

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

LOL @ Windows PC. It's only getting worse for PC.

osirisx3

indeed its disgusting what microsoft is doing. Its one of the biggest reasons i don't want to build a new pc. I dont want to pay for an awful os but at the same time i don't want to use an older dated os that wont be supported as well.

You can still buy Windows 7 (both the regular and OEM versions) on sites like Newegg. It's not as if there aren't any more copies floating around. You hardly have to use Windows 8 if you're building a new PC, although you may want to as benchmarks have shown that games tend to have better base FPS with Windows 8 (the max FPS is usually the same). There's also some cheap programs that give you back the start menu. Teksyndicate went over it in detail in one of their vids. 

BTW--How the hell has no one commented about the f**ing badass looking small form factor PCs I brought up!? I want to hear experices from people with those computers god damn it!! :x