Alienware X51 Vs. the Next gen consoles...

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#51 slipknot0129
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I have the Alienware x51. Pretty awesome machine. Nobody knows the performance of the Ps4 so its even questionable if it will outperform a Gtx 680. 

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#52 Razor_defiace
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Never buy an Alienware premade PC - they're incredibly overpriced and crap. In the case of the x51, you end up spending too much money to make it even decent. It's a lot better to buy all the necessary parts and assemble a custom PC by yourself really. 

Seriously, it's not worth it. 

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#54 cfisher2833
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I have the Alienware x51. Pretty awesome machine. Nobody knows the performance of the Ps4 so its even questionable if it will outperform a Gtx 680. 

slipknot0129

 

:? ....yeah, I don't know many people that are suggesting it's on par with a 680. The gimped UE4 elemental demo for PS4 dipped below 30fps, whereas the non-gimped PC version that was running on a 680 maintained a solid 60fps (with a few dips down to 58 every once and a while). 

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Lol @ alienwareNEWMAHAY

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#59 faizan_faizan
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I have the Alienware x51. Pretty awesome machine. Nobody knows the performance of the Ps4 so its even questionable if it will outperform a Gtx 680. 

slipknot0129
Wow, every Alienware consumer on this forum really doesn't know what he's talking about.
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#61 cfisher2833
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[QUOTE="cfisher2833"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I have the Alienware x51. Pretty awesome machine. Nobody knows the performance of the Ps4 so its even questionable if it will outperform a Gtx 680. 

crapbox720

 

:? ....yeah, I don't know many people that are suggesting it's on par with a 680. The gimped UE4 elemental demo for PS4 dipped below 30fps, whereas the non-gimped PC version that was running on a 680 maintained a solid 60fps (with a few dips down to 58 every once and a while). 

I had a 7800 gtx/x1800xt when xbox360 launched it could run games better than 360 at launch but later in it's lifespan i couldnt run the same games as 360 without upgrading the gpu.

 

Were you aiming for 30fps, low-med settings, and 720p or below? 

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#62 Martin_G_N
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I ain't really tempted to buy a overpriced custom PC, when I can get the same tech in a much cheaper one. For people who does'nt want to build a PC from the ground up, I recommend buying a complete PC from a cheaper brand, and then upgrading them later on. You should buy one with a good CPU, RAM, and a seperate GPU from AMD or Nvidia, and then upgrade the GPU and maybe the powersupply later on. Those are pretty easy to upgrade.

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#63 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Get a PS4. eventhough i have an alienware, atleast the PS4 will have great exclusive games unlike the PC.

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#64 lostrib
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Get a PS4. eventhough i have an alienware, atleast the PS4 will have great exclusive games unlike the PC.

Davekeeh

nope

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#65 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Get a PS4. eventhough i have an alienware, atleast the PS4 will have great exclusive games unlike the PC.

lostrib

nope


Yes, eventhough i have a powerful gaming PC that can run all the latest games on the highest settings, no games on the PC come close to the amazing PS3 exclusives, i'm sure PS4 will follow the same trend

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#67 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Get a PS4. eventhough i have an alienware, atleast the PS4 will have great exclusive games unlike the PC.

Davekeeh

nope


Yes, eventhough i have a powerful gaming PC that can run all the latest games on the highest settings, no games on the PC come close to the amazing PS3 exclusives, i'm sure PS4 will follow the same trend

PC has plenty of great exclusives

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Get a PS4. eventhough i have an alienware, atleast the PS4 will have great exclusive games unlike the PC.

Davekeeh

nope


Yes, eventhough i have a powerful gaming PC that can run all the latest games on the highest settings, no games on the PC come close to the amazing PS3 exclusives, i'm sure PS4 will follow the same trend

I want a photo of your PC along with your username. Otherwise you are BS'ing.
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#69 Tessellation
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alienware are just as bad as macbooks for gaming.
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alienware are just as bad as macbooks for gaming.Tessellation
BS, I've just been playing Guildwars 2 on mine and it was playable.
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#71 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]alienware are just as bad as macbooks for gaming.clyde46
BS, I've just been playing Guildwars 2 on mine and it was playable.

but to be honest, an alienware gaming laptop is going to perform better than a macbook pro at gaming.  And probably cooler (?)

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#72 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]alienware are just as bad as macbooks for gaming.clyde46
BS, I've just been playing Guildwars 2 on mine and it was playable.

Imac are much better than macbooks for gaming,i have the top of the line MacBook pro retina at the office and i can't play any of the new games at 1080p max settings.
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#73 lostrib
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]alienware are just as bad as macbooks for gaming.Tessellation
BS, I've just been playing Guildwars 2 on mine and it was playable.

Imac are much better than macbooks for gaming,i have the top of the line MacBook pro retina at the office and i can't play any of the new games at 1080p max settings.

to be fair, he only said it was "playable"

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#74 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="clyde46"] BS, I've just been playing Guildwars 2 on mine and it was playable. lostrib

Imac are much better than macbooks for gaming,i have the top of the line MacBook pro retina at the office and i can't play any of the new games at 1080p max settings.

to be fair, he only said it was "playable"

just being honest , and i am apple products user.. some cow claims he plays every game at 60fps/1080p with his macbook pro retina with a GTX650m :lol:

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#75 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]alienware are just as bad as macbooks for gaming.lostrib

BS, I've just been playing Guildwars 2 on mine and it was playable.

but to be honest, an alienware gaming laptop is going to perform better than a macbook pro at gaming.  And probably cooler (?)

Indeed. My MBP was hitting 90'C. Thank you Apple and your wonderful unibody design that works great in sub-zero temperatures.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] Imac are much better than macbooks for gaming,i have the top of the line MacBook pro retina at the office and i can't play any of the new games at 1080p max settings.Tessellation

to be fair, he only said it was "playable"

just being honest , and i am apple products user.. some cow claims he plays every game at 60fps/1080p with his macbook pro retina with a GTX650m :lol:

I've got a 17in MBP with a AMD 6750M and I've turned all the settings to low in GW2 and I get about 30FPS at 1920x1200.
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#77 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] BS, I've just been playing Guildwars 2 on mine and it was playable. clyde46

but to be honest, an alienware gaming laptop is going to perform better than a macbook pro at gaming.  And probably cooler (?)

Indeed. My MBP was hitting 90'C. Thank you Apple and your wonderful unibody design that works great in sub-zero temperatures.

Yeah i know that pain, you would think with such a loud fan it would cool better

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#78 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

but to be honest, an alienware gaming laptop is going to perform better than a macbook pro at gaming.  And probably cooler (?)

lostrib

Indeed. My MBP was hitting 90'C. Thank you Apple and your wonderful unibody design that works great in sub-zero temperatures.

Yeah i know that pain, you would think with such a loud fan it would cool better

Well, the unibody does act as a giant heatsink but there is nowhere really for air to be sucked in. Plus, I need to take the bottom off and give it a dust out.
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#79 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

to be fair, he only said it was "playable"

clyde46

just being honest , and i am apple products user.. some cow claims he plays every game at 60fps/1080p with his macbook pro retina with a GTX650m :lol:

I've got a 17in MBP with a AMD 6750M and I've turned all the settings to low in GW2 and I get about 30FPS at 1920x1200.

there is not point playing on low :(
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] just being honest , and i am apple products user.. some cow claims he plays every game at 60fps/1080p with his macbook pro retina with a GTX650m :lol:Tessellation
I've got a 17in MBP with a AMD 6750M and I've turned all the settings to low in GW2 and I get about 30FPS at 1920x1200.

there is not point playing on low :(

FPS is more important to me, especially when there is tons of players around. I might get better results with my 27in iMac with its 6770M but its only got an i5 and 4GB of RAM. That being said, I don't know why I would play it on my iMac when I have my gaming PC :lol: I'm only playing it on my MBP because I'm round a friends place and I can't be arsed to lug my gaming PC around.
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#81 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="clyde46"] I've got a 17in MBP with a AMD 6750M and I've turned all the settings to low in GW2 and I get about 30FPS at 1920x1200.

there is not point playing on low :(

FPS is more important to me, especially when there is tons of players around. I might get better results with my 27in iMac with its 6770M but its only got an i5 and 4GB of RAM. That being said, I don't know why I would play it on my iMac when I have my gaming PC :lol: I'm only playing it on my MBP because I'm round a friends place and I can't be arsed to lug my gaming PC around.

yeah FPS are important for me too,i just don't see the macbooks as gaming machines... i have 2 macbooks and a gaming/work PC.
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#82 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

nope

clyde46


Yes, eventhough i have a powerful gaming PC that can run all the latest games on the highest settings, no games on the PC come close to the amazing PS3 exclusives, i'm sure PS4 will follow the same trend

I want a photo of your PC along with your username. Otherwise you are BS'ing.


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#83 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Yes, eventhough i have a powerful gaming PC that can run all the latest games on the highest settings, no games on the PC come close to the amazing PS3 exclusives, i'm sure PS4 will follow the same trend

Davekeeh

I want a photo of your PC along with your username. Otherwise you are BS'ing.


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#84 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I want a photo of your PC along with your username. Otherwise you are BS'ing. clyde46

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#85 silversix_
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i would take a wiiu, yes, WIIUUUUUUU over an Alienware...
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#86 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Davekeeh

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Still, fair play to you for actually putting your money where your mouth is.
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[QUOTE="cfisher2833"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I have the Alienware x51. Pretty awesome machine. Nobody knows the performance of the Ps4 so its even questionable if it will outperform a Gtx 680.

crapbox720

:? ....yeah, I don't know many people that are suggesting it's on par with a 680. The gimped UE4 elemental demo for PS4 dipped below 30fps, whereas the non-gimped PC version that was running on a 680 maintained a solid 60fps (with a few dips down to 58 every once and a while).

I had a 7800 gtx/x1800xt when xbox360 launched it could run games better than 360 at launch but later in it's lifespan i couldnt run the same games as 360 without upgrading the gpu.

Both 7800 gtx/x1800xt has superior rasterization hardware compared to Xbox 360's GPU, hence superior performance at less shader bias games. As games shift towards shader compute heavy games, 7800 gtx/x1800xt was shown to have inferior shader feature capabilities.

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#88 ronvalencia
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@haters, shut up. You don't know anything about the X51! Heck, your most likely just jealous that you cant afford or have an alienware. All three of these machines will run between $500-600. On topic, I own an X51(2nd tier). Its a very powerful beast for what it is. It will easily outperform both the PS4 and the Xbox720 (or whatever its going to be called). @OP, the X51 easily runs new games(Battlefield 3, crysis 2, etc) on high settings at high resolutions at very playable FPS amounts. Even the base version of the X51 will out perform both those consoles. The GPU in the X51 is a OEM version and not retail version(GDDRM 5 not retail GDDRM 3). The base GPU they use is about on par as a GTX 650. Lazer-Sniper51

650? PS4's GCN is between 7850 and 7870 Ghz Edition.

PS4's GPU is closer to "HIS Radeon HD 7850 4GB iPower IceQ Turbo" http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/his_radeon_7850_ipower_iceq_4gb_review,1.html

X51 with GTX 650 Ti will NOT outperform PS4.

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CPU:AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard:ECS A960M-M3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)

Memory:Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)

Storage:Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)

Video Card:PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)

Case:Rosewill RANGER-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply:CoolMax 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)

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Total: $562.55 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-27 23:03 EDT-0400)

PS; 7870 XT (2.84 TFLOPS) uses a cutdown 7950/7970 chip design and generally faster than 7870 Ghz Edition. 7870 XT can be swap with Geforce GTX 660 Ti e.g. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pny-video-card-vcggtx660txpb

Both Geforce GTX 660 Ti (GK104) and Radeon HD 7870 XT (Tahiti LE) uses the flagship type GPUs.

For OS; http://www.pricewatch.com/gallery/software_oper_system/windows_7_home_premium_64bit

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

to be fair, he only said it was "playable"

clyde46

just being honest , and i am apple products user.. some cow claims he plays every game at 60fps/1080p with his macbook pro retina with a GTX650m :lol:

I've got a 17in MBP with a AMD 6750M and I've turned all the settings to low in GW2 and I get about 30FPS at 1920x1200.

For AMD camp, Radeon HD 7750M would be required to rival GeForce GT 650M (GK107) .

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Lol @ alienwareNEWMAHAY

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Get a PS4. eventhough i have an alienware, atleast the PS4 will have great exclusive games unlike the PC.

Davekeeh

Define great exclusive.

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#92 cfisher2833
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Get a PS4. eventhough i have an alienware, atleast the PS4 will have great exclusive games unlike the PC.

Bebi_vegeta

Define great exclusive.

 

Annoying "movie games" filled with QTEs, cutscenes, and set pieces. Gaming! :P

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#93 lostrib
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@haters, shut up. You don't know anything about the X51! Heck, your most likely just jealous that you cant afford or have an alienware. All three of these machines will run between $500-600. On topic, I own an X51(2nd tier). Its a very powerful beast for what it is. It will easily outperform both the PS4 and the Xbox720 (or whatever its going to be called). @OP, the X51 easily runs new games(Battlefield 3, crysis 2, etc) on high settings at high resolutions at very playable FPS amounts. Even the base version of the X51 will out perform both those consoles. The GPU in the X51 is a OEM version and not retail version(GDDRM 5 not retail GDDRM 3). The base GPU they use is about on par as a GTX 650. Lazer-Sniper51

I'm assuming this is a joke

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x51 is over consoles............

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#95 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Get a PS4. eventhough i have an alienware, atleast the PS4 will have great exclusive games unlike the PC.

cfisher2833

Define great exclusive.

Annoying "movie games" filled with QTEs, cutscenes, and set pieces. Gaming! :P


PS3 exclusives are on a whole 'nother level compared to generic PC exclusives.

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Guys, I just farted and it's really smelly! But I kind of like it.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
crapbox720

He's got a geforce 645 gt lol.

How do you know? Have you seen his specs?
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#99 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Yes, eventhough i have a powerful gaming PC that can run all the latest games on the highest settings, no games on the PC come close to the amazing PS3 exclusives, i'm sure PS4 will follow the same trend

Davekeeh

I want a photo of your PC along with your username. Otherwise you are BS'ing.


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On GpGPU compute, AMD Radeon HD 7850 would destroy your GeForce GTX 660.

From http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-gk106-benchmark,3463-9.html

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I want a photo of your PC along with your username. Otherwise you are BS'ing. ronvalencia


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On GpGPU compute, AMD Radeon HD 7850 would destroy your GeForce GTX 660.

From http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-gk106-benchmark,3463-9.html

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I have a 690, that guy was lying.