All console shooters should be 60fps

30FPS is disgusting for first person shooters. When it comes to FPS's, I mainly play on PC where they're supposed to be played with KB+M but I don't mind playing on consoles from time to time. At least COD was smart enough to do 60FPS; I think that's one of the reasons the COD series are so popular. It's too late for this gen since everybody wants OMFG GRAFIX but next gen I hope 60FPS becomes the staple from the start for first person shooters.

That´s a nice dream,but that´s all it is.

30FPS is disgusting for first person shooters. When it comes to FPS's, I mainly play on PC where they're supposed to be played with KB+M but I don't mind playing on consoles from time to time. At least COD was smart enough to do 60FPS; I think that's one of the reasons the COD series are so popular. It's too late for this gen since everybody wants OMFG GRAFIX but next gen I hope 60FPS becomes the staple from the start for first person shooters.

7ojistix

nobody is willing to make concessions on graphics now as games with below average graphical offerings often have an unwarranted stigma attached

it'll never happen this gen, i agree. however i think next gen will most likely be the same.

Next-Gen 60 fps could well be the norm. However, I don't mind playing some FPS games at 30fps.

does Halo run on 60 fps ??

That'll never happen because we'll just reset. Gaming is in a vicious cycle of 2 steps forward, 1 step back.

Towards the end of this gen you'll start to see more 60FPS shooters (and other genres) larger areas etc. When next gen rolls around we'll be back to unstable 25FPS and spend the next 5-10 years working our way up to locked 60FPS. And then itll reset the gen after.

Thats assuming Sony/MS stay in their direction and dont do a Nintendo (power wise). It was one of the reasons why i was originally so interested for the Wii. For once we won't be resetting (for the sake of graphics) and could pretty much continue where we left last gen. Its just a shame 3rd parties didnt go for it as much as i thought they would. It definately shows its advanages in 1st party.

Anyway i agree but itll never happen. Good thing we have PCs for that.

30FPS is disgusting for first person shooters. When it comes to FPS's, I mainly play on PC where they're supposed to be played with KB+M but I don't mind playing on consoles from time to time. At least COD was smart enough to do 60FPS; I think that's one of the reasons the COD series are so popular. It's too late for this gen since everybody wants OMFG GRAFIX but next gen I hope 60FPS becomes the staple from the start for first person shooters.

7ojistix

does Halo run on 60 fps ??

omho88

No.

does Halo run on 60 fps ??

omho88

It's capped at 30FPS and uses a blur effect to give the smoother feel.

That'll mean downgrading the graphics significantly, and that's a taboo for the console market. :P They'll rather play a game at 20fps aslong as it has jellyized mud textures.

That'll mean downgrading the graphics significantly, and that's a taboo for the console market. :P

WhenCicadasCry

Edit* I didn't catch your edit.

Are ANY console games 60fps and 1080p?

Are ANY console games 60fps and 1080p?

Pbjb989

outside of the odd arcade game.

DEFINITELY not:P

Wait until the next generation. Current consoles can't handle high resolutions without using 30FPS.tagyhag

thats not a valid argument. Next generations involves always more technologies and performance for better graphics. People might have recourses enough to make graphics from this generations + 60 frames but they just gonna put the recourses into better graphics.

with a well done motion blur its virtually impossible to tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps.

i could care less if games are 60fps.

I do like my FPS at 60 fps or more if possible, even on the PC I get mad at Crysis for having veryinconsistent frame rate.

yeah, shooters should shoot themselves in the kneecaps to hit 60fps because anything less is "disgusting", whatever that means in a video game context.

seriously, i do not care about graphics. the difference between a shiny detailed ground texture and a blurry flat ground texture means nada to me.

what I do care about is:

and

interaction with the enviorment (destruction) that has an impact on how the game plays, and large map sizes.

30fps is fine. considering what fun things we can get in our games that also remain marketable.

nope, all fps should be precise analog freelook so we dont have to play with newbie aim assist.

developers need to work on getting deadzone better on analog freelook and u wouldnt have to worry about it

[QUOTE="omho88"]

does Halo run on 60 fps ??

waltefmoney

No.

Even though Halo's not 60 frames the game still feels very fast and accurate like Call of Duty...

with a well done motion blur its virtually impossible to tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps.

i could care less if games are 60fps.

markinthedark

Maybe for you but even with a well done motion blur I can easily spot the difference between 30 and 60 fps.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Wait until the next generation. Current consoles can't handle high resolutions without using 30FPS.mattuk69

Are ANY console games 60fps and 1080p?

Pbjb989

You're a PC gamer and you only game at 60 frames? Wow, just wow. I mean a simple 5970 can run COD maxed with 110+.Fightingfan

30FPS is disgusting for first person shooters. When it comes to FPS's, I mainly play on PC where they're supposed to be played with KB+M but I don't mind playing on consoles from time to time. At least COD was smart enough to do 60FPS; I think that's one of the reasons the COD series are so popular. It's too late for this gen since everybody wants OMFG GRAFIX but next gen I hope 60FPS becomes the staple from the start for first person shooters.

7ojistix

[QUOTE="Pbjb989"]

Are ANY console games 60fps and 1080p?

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]You're a PC gamer and you only game at 60 frames? Wow, just wow. I mean a simple 5970 can run COD maxed with 110+.ohthemanatee

You're a PC gamer and you only game at 60 frames? Wow, just wow. I mean a simple 5970 can run COD maxed with 110+.Fightingfan

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]You're a PC gamer and you only game at 60 frames? Wow, just wow. I mean a simple 5970 can run COD maxed with 110+.hexashadow13

it is? I thought that most of the time was 60FPS was the maximum, but I'm not too informed on these things

Unless it's Counter Strike or Quake 3, you never need 60FPS for any shooter.mo0ksi

+ 1 lol

Rather have no more screen tearing than high FPS.

IM SICK AND TIRED OF SEEN MY SCREEN BREAK EVERY 10 SECONDS!!!!!

Unless it's Counter Strike or Quake 3, you never need 60FPS for any shooter.mo0ksi

So much wrong.

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]what's the point? a human eye can't perceive anything over 60 frames per second

ohthemanatee

it is? I thought that most of the time was 60FPS was the maximum, but I'm not too informed on these things

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Unless it's Counter Strike or Quake 3, you never need 60FPS for any shooter.7ojistix

So much wrong.

Meh. I've played the original Doom and Quake (before GLQuake) at sub-20fps and survived. I'm happy with a consistent 30 fps even at max load although higher is always better.

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Unless it's Counter Strike or Quake 3, you never need 60FPS for any shooter.mo0ksi

So much wrong.

Alright, let me ask you this first; why do you think CS and QIII are the only two FPS's that need 60FPS?

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]You're a PC gamer and you only game at 60 frames? Wow, just wow. I mean a simple 5970 can run COD maxed with 110+.hexashadow13

but the thing is that doesnt actually mean anything, because of how the eye works. The eye doesnt see in frames like a camera.... it blends images together... for instance if you look at a bright light then close your eyes... you can still see the light... the previous "frames" of the light are blending together with the current "frames" of darkness. A proper understanding of how the eye captures light allows devs to use motion blur to replicate the effects of the eye which is why a well done motion blur can replicate the effect of seeing in higher frames. A game at 30fps with motion blur can look smoother than a game at 60fps with no motion blur.

there are alot of ways to trick the eye... and the whole 30 vs 60 fps frame debate came at a time when there was no motion blur to speak of.

now if you want to talk 30 vs 60 fps in terms of framerate drops... a game running at 60fps will have much less noticeable slowdown than a game running at 30fps.... which i suspect is why most people prefer 60fps for modern games.

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="7ojistix"]

So much wrong.

7ojistix

Alright, let me ask you this first; why do you think CS and QIII are the only two FPS's that need 60FPS?

quick speed combined with no motion blur..... when fps rates are most noticeable is when snapping the camera around... with consoles you can snap the camera 180 degrees in a fraction of a second like on PC.

and with motion blur the framerate becomes negligible as it tricks the eye into seeing extra frames.

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"] Ooh...well enlighten me then. markinthedark

Alright, let me ask you this first; why do you think CS and QIII are the only two FPS's that need 60FPS?

quick speed combined with no motion blur..... when fps rates are most noticeable is when snapping the camera around... with consoles you can snap the camera 180 degrees in a fraction of a second like on PC.

and with motion blur the framerate becomes negligible as it tricks the eye into seeing extra frames.

Lol what are you his minion? I'm talking to him, not you.

What you've said is ridiculous anyway. It's not about hiding the lower frames, it's about the responsiveness and accuracy of your aim. 60FPS = far more responsive gameplay which results in better gameplay. Going back to 30 is disgusting.

I actually play @ 120FPS. If you did too you'd understand how crappy it feels going back to console shooters at 30 when you're used to this kind of precision. It makes for a FAR superior experience.