All I hear about is how amazing next gen's graphics will be. What about Wii U?

Sure the Wii U will have ytrpretty decent graphics, but if rumors are true (such as Square Enix's comments on next gen graphics here), then the Wii U to me lost a lot of interest.

Amyone else concerned about the Wii U? Or am I just a farting shennanigan?

am I the only one who doesn't give diddly squat about graphics? Conker and Farenheit/Indigo Prophecy are some of my favorite games, Much more enjoyable than Crysis 2 and GTA 4 With Graphics enhancor...

am I the only one who doesn't give diddly squat about graphics? Conker and Farenheit/Indigo Prophecy are some of my favorite games, Much more enjoyable than Crysis 2 and GTA 4 With Graphics enhancor...

ABCarmine

If you want next gen graphics look at some of the stuff on pc right now...

Sure the Wii U will have ytrpretty decent graphics, but if rumors are true (such as Square Enix's comments on next gen graphics here), then the Wii U to me lost a lot of interest.

Amyone else concerned about the Wii U? Or am I just a farting shennanigan?

Squall18

if the wii u is only on par or slightly better then this gen then yes the next ps/xbox will blow it away

video cards alone now have 2gb of ram

if u look at what kind of gaming pc you can get for 600 dollars and factor companies like sony always take a loss on hardware(plus their cost of parts will be lower then the avg consumer)
i could see a PS4/xbox720 coming in a step behind todays high end pc specs for 400 to 500 dollars in 2013

am I the only one who doesn't give diddly squat about graphics?ABCarmine

if the wii u is only on par or slightly better then this gen then yes the next ps/xbox will blow it away

video cards alone now have 2gb of ram

if u look at what kind of gaming pc you can get for 600 dollars and factor companies like sony always take a loss on hardware(plus their cost of parts will be lower then the avg consumer)
i could see a PS4/xbox720 coming in a step behind todays high end pc specs for 400 to 500 dollars in 2013

xxgunslingerxx

The link isn't working for me.

Anyways, The level of graphics on current consoles is good enough, at least as far as core graphics go. Polygon counts are as high as they need to be for believeable models, and lighting and effects are really impressive on the best looking games. We've hit that point, where most of the games coming out today look great, the only things that are lacking is resolution, AF and AA, things that clean up the image which just aren't high enough on current console games.

All I really want is 1080p native games next gen, and that'll be great. The main component of what makes games look as good or bad as they are these days is the visual style.

Sure the Wii U will have ytrpretty decent graphics, but if rumors are true (such as Square Enix's comments on next gen graphics here), then the Wii U to me lost a lot of interest.

Amyone else concerned about the Wii U? Or am I just a farting shennanigan?

Squall18

Frankly, if the new Zelda has PS3 graphics, i will be set and will look stunning, considering the amazign art they use

Also i will get WiiU when Zelda arrives in 3-4 years, so will be far cheaper by then and a amazing system to get with a next gen Zelda, so all is well in my book

Plus graphics are not everything, the problem with Wii was that had ancient hardware comparing to PS3 and very old graphics, now even if graphics get a lot better, PS3 kind of graphics are still amazing looking, so they wont look bad like Wii ones do now in any way, even if games in other systems do look a lot better

Many games on PS3/360 look amazing, so i dont see a problem with WiiU looking better than them, even if not by much

Nintendo is not concerned in the slightest with keeping up with the graphics race. They have showed time and time again that they do not even need number crunching hardware to create games that look among the best anyone regardless of what system has to offer.

This of course completely conflicts with their renewed initiative to bring on significant third party companies to their platform. If they only have similar platforms to MS and Sony until Xbox 720 and PS4 come out then they are in a whole that is similar to Wii.

You should definitely be concerned. The WiiU is no leap, its a baby step. RR360DD

[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"]

if the wii u is only on par or slightly better then this gen then yes the next ps/xbox will blow it away

video cards alone now have 2gb of ram

if u look at what kind of gaming pc you can get for 600 dollars and factor companies like sony always take a loss on hardware(plus their cost of parts will be lower then the avg consumer)
i could see a PS4/xbox720 coming in a step behind todays high end pc specs for 400 to 500 dollars in 2013

AmazonTreeBoa

You should definitely be concerned. The WiiU is no leap, its a baby step. RR360DD

Can I seriously see your crystal ball.Nobody knows how strong the system is yet. All we know so far is that it's using 2008 PC hardware.It could be a low end variant of this hardware, a medium end variant of this hardware or the higher end variant of this hardware

Considering the size of the Wii U (yes it is quite big), and what the Wii U demos have shown us, which were extremely rushed made with early dev kits, I'm pretty sure the Wii U will be far more powerful than current consoles.

[QUOTE="ABCarmine"]

am I the only one who doesn't give diddly squat about graphics? Conker and Farenheit/Indigo Prophecy are some of my favorite games, Much more enjoyable than Crysis 2 and GTA 4 With Graphics enhancor...

sami117

If you want next gen graphics look at some of the stuff on pc right now...

I guess that means next gen won't be that amazing then.

[QUOTE="sami117"]

[QUOTE="ABCarmine"]

am I the only one who doesn't give diddly squat about graphics? Conker and Farenheit/Indigo Prophecy are some of my favorite games, Much more enjoyable than Crysis 2 and GTA 4 With Graphics enhancor...

15strong

If you want next gen graphics look at some of the stuff on pc right now...

I guess that means next gen won't be that amazing then.

No?I have to disagree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g

the wiiu will be fine if the games look good there should not be any problem

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="sami117"]

If you want next gen graphics look at some of the stuff on pc right now...

ferret-gamer

I guess that means next gen won't be that amazing then.

No?I have to disagree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g

If the Wii U can run something like the Samaritan demo, that'd be amazing. But maybe that's getting my hopes up a bit too high :P

Considering the size of the Wii U (yes it is quite big), and what the Wii U demos have shown us, which were extremely rushed made with early dev kits, I'm pretty sure the Wii U will be far more powerful than current consoles.

theuncharted34

The developers are just getting the next set of hardware. They should have it before August 1st.

Also I'm not really sure the next Sony or Microsoft console would be that much more powerful then the Wii U a Sony rep already said the PS4 will just be a small step up from the PS3.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

I guess that means next gen won't be that amazing then.

theuncharted34

No?I have to disagree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g

If the Wii U can run something like the Samaritan demo, that'd be amazing. But maybe that's getting my hopes up a bit too high :P

Not a chance. WiiU games will look pretty much on par to what we're playing today on the 360/PS3.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="sami117"]

If you want next gen graphics look at some of the stuff on pc right now...

ferret-gamer

I guess that means next gen won't be that amazing then.

No?I have to disagree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g

You know that no game this gen looks as good as the Unreal 3 engine tech demo. As for GTA, it looks great, but next gen I'm am hoping for more than just a visual upgrade.

I will say it once again, PC is not in the next gen yet. If next gen graphics end up looking like the best looking PC exclusives now, I will be sorely diassapointed.

Next gen graphics are already here on PCs :S If I want fantastic looking games, I play on my PC :S I just kind of care about graphics on consoles :S

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Considering the size of the Wii U (yes it is quite big), and what the Wii U demos have shown us, which were extremely rushed made with early dev kits, I'm pretty sure the Wii U will be far more powerful than current consoles.

Nintendo_Ownes7

The developers are just getting the next set of hardware. They should have it before August 1st.

Also I'm not really sure the next Sony or Microsoft console would be that much more powerful then the Wii U a Sony rep already said the PS4 will just be a small step up from the PS3.

I didn't know that, that's more good news :)

You should definitely be concerned. The WiiU is no leap, its a baby step. RR360DD

[QUOTE="Squall18"]

Sure the Wii U will have ytrpretty decent graphics, but if rumors are true (such as Square Enix's comments on next gen graphics here), then the Wii U to me lost a lot of interest.

Amyone else concerned about the Wii U? Or am I just a farting shennanigan?

AmazonTreeBoa

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

I guess that means next gen won't be that amazing then.

15strong

No?I have to disagree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g

You know that no game this gen looks as good as the Unreal 3 engine tech demo. As for GTA, it looks great, but next gen I'm am hoping for more than just a visual upgrade.

I will say it once again, PC is not in the next gen yet. If next gen graphics end up looking like the best looking PC exclusives now, I will be sorely diassapointed.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

No?I have to disagree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g

RR360DD

If the Wii U can run something like the Samaritan demo, that'd be amazing. But maybe that's getting my hopes up a bit too high :P

Not a chance. WiiU games will look pretty much on par to what we're playing today on the 360/PS3.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

No?I have to disagree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g

ferret-gamer

You know that no game this gen looks as good as the Unreal 3 engine tech demo. As for GTA, it looks great, but next gen I'm am hoping for more than just a visual upgrade.

I will say it once again, PC is not in the next gen yet. If next gen graphics end up looking like the best looking PC exclusives now, I will be sorely diassapointed.

Right. I am guessing the next consoles form sony and microsoft will be more powerful than the Wii U. And if there is no game on PC that looks as good as the samartian demo, Unreal's prediction and showcase for next gen, then the PC isn't quite next gen then.

[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"]

if the wii u is only on par or slightly better then this gen then yes the next ps/xbox will blow it away

video cards alone now have 2gb of ram

if u look at what kind of gaming pc you can get for 600 dollars and factor companies like sony always take a loss on hardware(plus their cost of parts will be lower then the avg consumer)
i could see a PS4/xbox720 coming in a step behind todays high end pc specs for 400 to 500 dollars in 2013

AmazonTreeBoa

These are not 3 or 4 gigs. They are 1,5 and 2 gigs for each GPU in the card. SLI/CFX mirrors data between the two GPUs in the card, so vrams of the GPUs will be equally loaded within the card, effectively making the total vram of the card 1,5/2GB and not 3/4GB as advertised.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="15strong"]

You know that no game this gen looks as good as the Unreal 3 engine tech demo. As for GTA, it looks great, but next gen I'm am hoping for more than just a visual upgrade.

I will say it once again, PC is not in the next gen yet. If next gen graphics end up looking like the best looking PC exclusives now, I will be sorely diassapointed.

15strong

Right. I am guessing the next consoles form sony and microsoft will be more powerful than the Wii U. And if there is no game on PC that looks as good as the samartian demo, Unreal's prediction and showcase for next gen, then the PC isn't quite next gen then.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] No, there is no game right now that looks on par with samartian right now, but it is a showcase of what is capable right now with PC hardware, and whether or not it is next gen depends on how powerful next gen actually is. If the Wii U is next gen, then the PC is easily next gen.ferret-gamer

Right. I am guessing the next consoles form sony and microsoft will be more powerful than the Wii U. And if there is no game on PC that looks as good as the samartian demo, Unreal's prediction and showcase for next gen, then the PC isn't quite next gen then.

Right. I know. I am not arguing that PC hardware isn't next gen. You yourself just stated that PC's aren't in the next gen yet when it comes to software. The samartian demo is a prediction on what next gen consoles could be. It is a justified indicator on what might be coming next gen. And you also stated that no PC game can match the samartian demo. Thus stating that PC isn't in the next gen if we use Epic's predictions, which happens to be the only indicator we have right now to make a valid prediction.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

If the Wii U can run something like the Samaritan demo, that'd be amazing. But maybe that's getting my hopes up a bit too high :P

oldkingallant

Not a chance. WiiU games will look pretty much on par to what we're playing today on the 360/PS3.

I completely agree with this.

While nothing is set in stone, if Wii U can run Crysis at 1080p and Very High, then that is just about all we can expect out of "next gen" as the hardware will all be comparable to hardware to what is currently on shelf.

You know that no game this gen looks as good as the Unreal 3 engine tech demo. As for GTA, it looks great, but next gen I'm am hoping for more than just a visual upgrade.

I will say it once again, PC is not in the next gen yet. If next gen graphics end up looking like the best looking PC exclusives now, I will be sorely diassapointed.

15strong

So PC isn't a gen ahead but you'll be disappointed when next gen consoles don't match current PC.

I don't see games with shogun2 scale on console.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

You know that no game this gen looks as good as the Unreal 3 engine tech demo. As for GTA, it looks great, but next gen I'm am hoping for more than just a visual upgrade.

I will say it once again, PC is not in the next gen yet. If next gen graphics end up looking like the best looking PC exclusives now, I will be sorely diassapointed.

slimjimbadboy

So PC isn't a gen ahead but you'll be disappointed when next gen consoles don't match current PC.

I don't see games with shogun2 scale on console.

This is what I said to someone else above and I stick by that:

"Right. I know. I am not arguing that PC hardware isn't next gen. You yourself just stated that PC's aren't in the next gen yet when it comes to software. The samartian demo is a prediction on what next gen consoles could be. It is a justified indicator on what might be coming next gen. And you also stated that no PC game can match the samartian demo. Thus stating that PC isn't in the next gen if we use Epic's predictions, which happens to be the only indicator we have right now to make a valid prediction."

I am using the Next gen unreal engine as an estimation of what next gen might be like. If that is the case for next gen, thes yes, console games will run games with the scale of shogun 2. You can say what you want but at least I am making a valid prediction with what is presented by the next gen unreal engine. I am not just hypothesizing randomly.

I'm confused, I thought technical graphics don't matter to Nintendo fans and it's all about the art style and interpretation? Wouldn't the extra power be wasted?Heil68

It will probably be 35-40% better than the 360 and PS3 graphically speaking. It wont have true next gen visuals if thats what you are looking for.

oh..its that article that says the next xbox will have avatar graphics... ok fine..lets argue about that lol..

oh..its that article that says the next xbox will have avatar graphics... ok fine..lets argue about that lol..

KBFloYd

oh..its that article that says the next xbox will have avatar graphics... ok fine..lets argue about that lol..

KBFloYd

"Right. I know. I am not arguing that PC hardware isn't next gen. You yourself just stated that PC's aren't in the next gen yet when it comes to software. The samartian demo is a prediction on what next gen consoles could be. It is a justified indicator on what might be coming next gen. And you also stated that no PC game can match the samartian demo. Thus stating that PC isn't in the next gen if we use Epic's predictions, which happens to be the only indicator we have right now to make a valid prediction."

I am using the Next gen unreal engine as an estimation of what next gen might be like. If that is the case for next gen, thes yes, console games will run games with the scale of shogun 2. You can say what you want but at least I am making a valid prediction with what is presented by the next gen unreal engine. I am not just hypothesizing randomly.

15strong

So my question to you is, was the samartian tech demo shown from a crystal ball? I'm not going to judge the abilities of next gen consoles until I see spec's to go along with the price tag.But, if it takes a decent PC to play iCEnhance, I have my doubt's next gen consoles will play current gen PC games.

Sure the Wii U will have ytrpretty decent graphics, but if rumors are true (such as Square Enix's comments on next gen graphics here), then the Wii U to me lost a lot of interest.

Amyone else concerned about the Wii U? Or am I just a farting shennanigan?

Squall18

I'm not concerned at all. Is it really going to kill people if Wii U doesn't produce graphics that look like Avatar? If you want to play something that looks terrible, pull out an N64 or PSX. Graphics in our current next gen systems(PS3/Xbox 360) are pretty sufficient. Of course, there is room to expand with draw distance and framerate.

It will probably be 35-40% better than the 360 and PS3 graphically speaking. It wont have true next gen visuals if thats what you are looking for.

Fizzman

[QUOTE="Squall18"]

Sure the Wii U will have ytrpretty decent graphics, but if rumors are true (such as Square Enix's comments on next gen graphics here), then the Wii U to me lost a lot of interest.

Amyone else concerned about the Wii U? Or am I just a farting shennanigan?

AmazonTreeBoa