All of the Cows games flopped except MGS4

[QUOTE="thrones"]It was like one chapter, at best, from the classics like Baldur's Gate. And the story wasn't original and midly interesting. Though it's delivery was top notch, BioWare should've stuck to making RPGs out of other people's IPs.vicmackey39

The characters were a bit rubbish as well, apart from Rex, and he wasnt even that good

As you said Bioware aren't very good at creating their own mythology. All the time I was playing I kept thinking how it was just a crappier version of star wars

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]It was like one chapter, at best, from the classics like Baldur's Gate. And the story wasn't original and midly interesting. Though it's delivery was top notch, BioWare should've stuck to making RPGs out of other people's IPs.UnrealSin_X

The characters were a bit rubbish as well, apart from Rex, and he wasnt even that good

As you said Bioware aren't very good at creating their own mythology. All the time I was playing I kept thinking how it was just a crappier version of star wars

He trashes everything. I wouldn't bother, tbh. We all know Mass Effect is a great game, except for those few...

And yet they think one AAAAE > 360 and wii's entire lineup :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

That is kinda sad. Just one PS3 game that was amazing the rest were short and boring. PS3 is failing. Suliman-Uchia

Not really. Warhawk and Uncharted were hyped AA and recieved AA.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]And yet they think one AAAAE > 360 and wii's entire lineup :lol:thrones

a bunch of flops and lost exlusives dont beat the wii's lineup.

PS3:

AAAA: 2 (1)

AAA: 8 (0)

AA: 41 (4)

51AA+ games.

Wii:

AAAA: 0 (0)

AAA: 6 (4)

AA: 22 (7)

28 AA+ games.

ouch. felt that over here

He trashes everything. I wouldn't bother, tbh. We all know Mass Effect is a great game, except for those few...

BioShockOwnz

having Standards isn't a bad thing

You'll learn that yourself when you play Too Human tomorrow

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

He trashes everything. I wouldn't bother, tbh. We all know Mass Effect is a great game, except for those few...

vicmackey39

having Standards isn't a bad thing

You'll learn that yourself when you play Too Human tomorrow

Ownage, so simple. ^_^

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]And yet they think one AAAAE > 360 and wii's entire lineup :lol:thrones

SMG alone beats the PS3 lineup, even with MGS4

That is kinda sad. Just one PS3 game that was amazing the rest were short and boring. PS3 is failing. Suliman-Uchia

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]And yet they think one AAAAE > 360 and wii's entire lineup :lol:akif22

SMG alone beats the PS3 lineup, even with MGS4

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]And yet they think one AAAAE > 360 and wii's entire lineup :lol:thrones

a bunch of flops and lost exlusives dont beat the wii's lineup.

PS3:

AAAA: 2 (1)

AAA: 8 (0)

AA: 41 (4)

51AA+ games.

Wii:

AAAA: 0 (0)

AAA: 6 (4)

AA: 22 (7)

28 AA+ games.

I think that sums it up pretty well. In regards to games and system wars standards the PS3 is ahead of the Wii (even though I prefer the games on Wii). Though neither are bad.

That is kinda sad. Just one PS3 game that was amazing the rest were short and boring. PS3 is failing. Suliman-Uchia

If PS3 is falling, what do we call 360 sales? PS3 has beenoutselling 360 hardware for a long ass time now according to vgchartz and NPD. Let me guess? hardware shortages? LOLZ:lol:

[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]That is kinda sad. Just one PS3 game that was amazing the rest were short and boring. PS3 is failing. Taalon

That's practically all the major exclusives on PS3. Logically you lose...

Warhawk a Flop!?.....The Warhawk community is strong day & night, you can even compare it to the Halo community

Uncharted didn't flop.

/thread

[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]That is kinda sad. Just one PS3 game that was amazing the rest were short and boring. PS3 is failing. Taalon

:lol: LMAO!!!!! YOU GOT SERVED!!!

[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]That is kinda sad. Just one PS3 game that was amazing the rest were short and boring. PS3 is failing. PK_3100

thats like saying mass effect and ninja gaiden2 flop.

and im sure if MGS4 didnt get a 10 it would have been short and boring too LMAO....

[QUOTE="-eitch8"]

i dont get why ppl always say this.

i think uncharted, heavenly sword, folklore, warkawk, motorstorm, ratchet and clank, gt5p are GREAT games

PK_3100

....and so do alot of other people. but this guy probably defines a FLOP as a game who didnt get a 9 or above.

oh okay so he must think ninja gaiden 2 was a flop!

If you even consider MGS4 a game, more like a minisode

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]It was like one chapter, at best, from the classics like Baldur's Gate. And the story wasn't original and midly interesting. Though it's delivery was top notch, BioWare should've stuck to making RPGs out of other people's IPs.BioShockOwnz

The characters were a bit rubbish as well, apart from Rex, and he wasnt even that good

As you said Bioware aren't very good at creating their own mythology. All the time I was playing I kept thinking how it was just a crappier version of star wars

He trashes everything. I wouldn't bother, tbh. We all know Mass Effect is a great game, except for those few...

Mass Effect is 8.8 which is a flop. Deal with it.

That is kinda sad. Just one PS3 game that was amazing the rest were short and boring. PS3 is failing. Suliman-Uchia

Trying to get your post count up?:lol: I understand, I forgive you.

PS3 is failing. Right.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]He trashes everything. I wouldn't bother, tbh. We all know Mass Effect is a great game, except for those few...

Suliman-Uchia

Mass Effect is 8.8 which is a flop. Deal with it.

Just because Mass Effect is a flop doesn't make it a horrible game that needs to be burned with fire. Mass Effect got a 8.5 here and that is 'Great', so by Gamespot it is a 'Great' Game. It is a flop but that doesn't mean it is bad.

I have R&C for the PS3 and I really love that game, it is a flop here but still is good.

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]And yet they think one AAAAE > 360 and wii's entire lineup :lol:akif22

SMG alone beats the PS3 lineup, even with MGS4

Thank you for your opinion, though I doubt anyone cares about it.

the only flops i can think of on the ps3 are lair and haze _Nightcrawle_

And ratchet & clank, resistance, Uncharted etc everything flopped.

[QUOTE="_Nightcrawle_"]the only flops i can think of on the ps3 are lair and haze BlackNine11

And ratchet & clank, resistance, Uncharted etc everything flopped.

[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]He trashes everything. I wouldn't bother, tbh. We all know Mass Effect is a great game, except for those few...

Chaos_HL21

Mass Effect is 8.8 which is a flop. Deal with it.

Just because Mass Effect is a flop doesn't make it a horrible game that needs to be burned with fire. Mass Effect got a 8.5 here and that is 'Great', so by Gamespot it is a 'Great' Game. It is a flop but that doesn't mean it is bad.

I have R&C for the PS3 and I really love that game, it is a flop here but still is good.

Maybe there should be flop types like "minor flop" or "major flop."

If ps3 only had 360s multiplats (and for sum reason i couldnt get a 360 cuz there were none left in the world) id still pick it over the wii, or if it had none of the high level games it shares with 360 id also still pick it over wii. hmac777

i think we can all agree ps3 has the lead games in 2008, while were waiting and its looking good for 360, the lineup just doesnt excite people here on SW like the HD games coming for ps360. It's like the wii becomes a cliche, with all its marketing geared toward the "team player" rather than those who like to play, experience, and enjoy games one on one so the atmosphere is more intense, we have online for just playing.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]He trashes everything. I wouldn't bother, tbh. We all know Mass Effect is a great game, except for those few...

leviathan91

Mass Effect is 8.8 which is a flop. Deal with it.

Just because Mass Effect is a flop doesn't make it a horrible game that needs to be burned with fire. Mass Effect got a 8.5 here and that is 'Great', so by Gamespot it is a 'Great' Game. It is a flop but that doesn't mean it is bad.

I have R&C for the PS3 and I really love that game, it is a flop here but still is good.

Maybe there should be flop types like "minor flop" or "major flop."

But fanboys don't understand the difference between a game being hyped AAA and getting AA or a game being hyped AA and getting a 6.0 or lower. They link them all in the same category.

Honestly a game that still makes it in the A-AAA range for me isnt a flop. A game hyped as A-AAA and doesn't. Now that is a flop.

But fanboys don't understand the difference between a game being hyped AAA and getting AA or a game being hyped AA and getting a 6.0 or lower. They link them all in the same category.

Honestly a game that still makes it in the A-AAA range for me isnt a flop. A game hyped as A-AAA and doesn't. Now that is a flop.

CajunShooter

Hyped AAAA, recieves 9.5 = minor flop

Hyped AAAA, recieves 9.0 or lower = major flop

Hyped AAA, recieves AA = minor flop

Hyped AAA, recieves A or lower = major flop

Hyped AA, recieves anything higher or equal to 6.5 = minor flop

Hyped AA, recieves lower than 6.5 = major flop

Hyped A, recieves 6.5 or 6.0 rating = minor flop

Hyped A, recieves lower than 6.0 = Major flop

Of course, I might have to take in hype for consideration, so if a game is obliviously hyped AAA by a fanbase determined it will score AAA and recieves a lousy AA score, it could be a major flop. For that, there should be a certain number of posters who hype a game AAA or above.

I think it's doable.

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]That is kinda sad. Just one PS3 game that was amazing the rest were short and boring. PS3 is failing. Suliman-Uchia

I have 12 PS3 games.:|

I got bored of most of them fast except Reistance, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword. Also MGS4.

Then they didnt flop

You just dont like the games

Plenty of others do

Your opinion doesnt represent every gamer on the planet

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]And yet they think one AAAAE > 360 and wii's entire lineup :lol:thrones

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]And yet they think one AAAAE > 360 and wii's entire lineup :lol:Shinobishyguy

^_^

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

But fanboys don't understand the difference between a game being hyped AAA and getting AA or a game being hyped AA and getting a 6.0 or lower. They link them all in the same category.

Honestly a game that still makes it in the A-AAA range for me isnt a flop. A game hyped as A-AAA and doesn't. Now that is a flop.

leviathan91

Hyped AAAA, recieves 9.5 = minor flop

Hyped AAAA, recieves 9.0 or lower = major flop

Hyped AAA, recieves AA = minor flop

Hyped AAA, recieves A or lower = major flop

Hyped AA, recieves anything higher or equal to 6.5 = minor flop

Hyped AA, recieves lower than 6.5 = major flop

Hyped A, recieves 6.5 or 6.0 rating = minor flop

Hyped A, recieves lower than 6.0 = Major flop

Of course, I might have to take in hype for consideration, so if a game is obliviously hyped AAA by a fanbase determined it will score AAA and recieves a lousy AA score, it could be a major flop. For that, there should be a certain number of posters who hype a game AAA or above.

I think it's doable.

Wow, that's complexicated. I think it comes down to each individual person's opinion on whether the game lived up to their expectations or not.