All you wii haters out there

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Yes, I would like to have great Nintendo exclusives on the 360 (since that's all I own right now), but the overall package on the 360 is so much better. You can have your hardware sales. They are meaningless anyways unless they spark developer support, which obviously isn't happening.Gamer556

It actually is. The new Fatal Frame is coming to the Wii. There was an interview with Valve saying they want to develop for it. Factor 5 said they would go back to it. Bioware wants to develop for it. And we're already seeing some decent third party support like Zack and Wiki, No More Heroes, King Story, RE:UC, Trauma Center, and more. This is way more than the Gamecube or N64 got.

Back at E306, just about every developer at the show said they wanted to work with it, yet none of them have actually commited to it, and hardly any of them ever will. Have you even looked at the Wii's 2008 lineup? Outside of SSBB, it's a wasteland.

While some of those games could turn out OK (Z&W and Trauma Center in particular), most will probably be mediocre, if not outright bad. I'm sorry, but that is not a solid list of third party games.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Yes, I would like to have great Nintendo exclusives on the 360 (since that's all I own right now), but the overall package on the 360 is so much better. You can have your hardware sales. They are meaningless anyways unless they spark developer support, which obviously isn't happening.Gamer556

It actually is. The new Fatal Frame is coming to the Wii. There was an interview with Valve saying they want to develop for it. Factor 5 said they would go back to it. Bioware wants to develop for it. And we're already seeing some decent third party support like Zack and Wiki, No More Heroes, King Story, RE:UC, Trauma Center, and more. This is way more than the Gamecube or N64 got.

Back at E306, just about every developer at the show said they wanted to work with it, yet none of them have actually commited to it, and hardly any of them ever will. Have you even looked at the Wii's 2008 lineup? Outside of SSBB, it's a wasteland.

While some of those games could turn out OK (Z&W and Trauma Center in particular), most will probably be mediocre, if not outright bad. I'm sorry, but that is not a solid list of third party games.

I know it doesn't compare to the PS3/360, however it is a huge improvement over the Gamecube/N64. Anyway, your making your judgement too early. We have no idea what could happen.

are just jealous.

You call it kiddie but secretly you wish you had games like TP and MP3 exclusive to your system (AAA despite what GS's biased reviewers think).

Even if you wont admit it, you know that SMG and Brawl win in the games catergory and Wii Fit will win in sales. You guys are so scared of sheep now that all of you cows, lemms, and hermits are banding together to pretend that the Wii is a kiddie gimmick.

You guys saw new-gen beat next-gen in the handheld wars, and now you will see new-gen beat next-gen in the console wars.

Acemaster27

Why should I be jealous of a last generation console? The wii to me is just like my gamecube but the only difference is that it uses motion sensing. :lol:

Bioshock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Eternal Sonata, Dead Rising, PGR4, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, The Darkness, Viva Pinata, Forza 2, Command and Conquer: Tiberium Wars, Lost Planet, Condemned, Oblivion, Rainbow Six: Vegas and Crackdown.

Those games are out for my Xbox 360 right now (just to name a few), and by the end of the year I can add Call of Duty 4, Assasins Creed, and Mass Effect to that list (just to name a few).

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="Acemaster27"]

Wii Fit will win in sales.

Haziqonfire

Hardcore Nintendo Fanboy, sales is all you people care about.

They have a score to back it up with.

Double standard? The sales figures were just released recently and they were quite impressive, so of course there is gonna be some talk about it.

Nintendo fanboys, just like Nintendo, don't care about quality, as long as the sales are good.

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

jethrovegas

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

sexy_chimp

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

they're jealous because they ain't getting SSBB & Mario Galaxy.XenoNinja

SSBB & SMG?:lol:You can keep them, I'm happy with Halo 3 and Gears of War which are both AAA games.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

jack_russel

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

The other difference is that the 360 has been out over twice as long so of course it will have more games.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

sexy_chimp

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

The only difference is that the 360 has more/better games than the wii.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

sexy_chimp

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

No it can't. Those games appeal to alot of people, and they certainly have more appeal than the Wii's software to the majority of gamers.

Why do you think that the 360 has sold 4 times as much software as the Wii?

The Wii's software library sucks, and not just IMO.

You have 3 AAA games at gamerankings (you sheep like GR right?) Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, and RE4 Wii.

Two of those are good solid first party Nintendo games, and one of those is a straight port of a game that was originally released in January of 05.

And you are going to try and tell me that the Wii's library is good?

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

sexy_chimp

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

The other difference is that the 360 has been out over twice as long so of course it will have more games.

Thats not the 360s problem now is it?

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]they're jealous because they ain't getting SSBB & Mario Galaxy.Soulja_West

SSBB & SMG?:lol:You can keep them, I'm happy with Halo 3 and Gears of War which are both AAA games.

SSBB & SMG will be AAAA games... so enjoy your AAA games!:lol:!!!!

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

sexy_chimp

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

The other difference is that the 360 has been out over twice as long so of course it will have more games.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

Soulja_West

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

The other difference is that the 360 has been out over twice as long so of course it will have more games.

Thats not the 360s problem now is it?

No, but do you honestly expect the Wii to have as many AA and AAA games as the 360 when the 360 has been out twice as long, especially considering that the first year for every console is always slow.

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]they're jealous because they ain't getting SSBB & Mario Galaxy.XenoNinja

SSBB & SMG?:lol:You can keep them, I'm happy with Halo 3 and Gears of War which are both AAA games.

SSBB & SMG will be AAAA games... so enjoy your AAA games!:lol:!!!!

I hope to god that you don't believe that SSBB and SMG will get an AAAA :|

Just for that comment you made, I'm going to siggy it :lol:

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

jethrovegas

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

No it can't. Those games appeal to alot of people, and they certainly have more appeal than the Wii's software to the majority of gamers.

Why do you think that the 360 has sold 4 times as much software as the Wii?

The Wii's software library sucks, and not just IMO.

You have 3 AAA games at gamerankings (you sheep like GR right?) Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, and RE4 Wii.

Two of those are good solid first party Nintendo games, and one of those is a straight port of a game that was originally released in January of 05.

And you are going to try and tell me that the Wii's library is good?

The Wii's library being "good" is a matter of opinion. I would take its library over the 360's library anyday, mainly because I don't care about shooting things or an M rating, which most 360 games use as a selling point. Anyway that's my opinion and you have a different one. Also, you only play AAA games?

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

sexy_chimp

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

The other difference is that the 360 has been out over twice as long so of course it will have more games.

Thats not the 360s problem now is it?

No, but do you honestly expect the Wii to have as many AA and AAA games as the 360 when the 360 has been out twice as long, especially considering that the first year for every console is always slow.

The other difference is that the 360 has been out over twice as long so of course it will have more games.

Thats not the 360s problem now is it?

No, but do you honestly expect the Wii to have as many AA and AAA games as the 360 when the 360 has been out twice as long, especially considering that the first year for every console is always slow.

But that still doesn't change the fact that it isn't the 360s problem.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

sexy_chimp

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

No it can't. Those games appeal to alot of people, and they certainly have more appeal than the Wii's software to the majority of gamers.

Why do you think that the 360 has sold 4 times as much software as the Wii?

The Wii's software library sucks, and not just IMO.

You have 3 AAA games at gamerankings (you sheep like GR right?) Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, and RE4 Wii.

Two of those are good solid first party Nintendo games, and one of those is a straight port of a game that was originally released in January of 05.

And you are going to try and tell me that the Wii's library is good?

The Wii's library being "good" is a matter of opinion. I would take its library over the 360's library anyday, mainly because I don't care about shooting things or an M rating, which most 360 games use as a selling point. Anyway that's my opinion and you have a different one. Also, you only play AAA games?

This argument is not about your opinion. This argument is about cold hard facts. Neither my opinion or yours has anything to do with it.

FACT: The 360 has sold approximately 4 times as much software as the Wii.

FACT: The Wii has 3 AAAs on GameRankings and only 4 AAs.

FACT: The 360 has 8 AAAs and 55 AAs on GameRankings

Those are facts, my friend, and your opinion really becomes quite irrelevant in the face of them.

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]they're jealous because they ain't getting SSBB & Mario Galaxy.Soulja_West

SSBB & SMG?:lol:You can keep them, I'm happy with Halo 3 and Gears of War which are both AAA games.

SSBB & SMG will be AAAA games... so enjoy your AAA games!:lol:!!!!

I hope to god that you don't believe that SSBB and SMG will get an AAAA :|

Just for that comment you made, I'm going to siggy it :lol:

Believe me, a few days from now SMG will score a 10, I guarantee it.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Bioshock, Half-Life 2: Orange Box, Viva Pinata

Why should I buy a Wii again? To play 3 or 4 Nintendo games?

Hmmm...

jethrovegas

I narrowed your list down to games that interest me.

Why should I buy a 360? To play 2 shooters and a Rare game?

Ya see? It can go both ways.

No it can't. Those games appeal to alot of people, and they certainly have more appeal than the Wii's software to the majority of gamers.

Why do you think that the 360 has sold 4 times as much software as the Wii?

The Wii's software library sucks, and not just IMO.

You have 3 AAA games at gamerankings (you sheep like GR right?) Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, and RE4 Wii.

Two of those are good solid first party Nintendo games, and one of those is a straight port of a game that was originally released in January of 05.

And you are going to try and tell me that the Wii's library is good?

The Wii's library being "good" is a matter of opinion. I would take its library over the 360's library anyday, mainly because I don't care about shooting things or an M rating, which most 360 games use as a selling point. Anyway that's my opinion and you have a different one. Also, you only play AAA games?

This argument is not about your opinion. This argument is about cold hard facts. Neither my opinion or yours has anything to do with it.

FACT: The 360 has sold approximately 4 times as much software as the Wii.

FACT: The Wii has 3 AAAs on GameRankings and only 4 AAs.

FACT: The 360 has 8 AAAs and 55 AAs on GameRankings

Those are facts, my friend, and your opinion really becomes quite irrelevant in the face of them.

This argument is not about your opinion. This argument is about cold hard facts. Neither my opinion or yours has anything to do with it.

FACT: The 360 has sold approximately 4 times as much software as the Wii.

FACT: The Wii has 3 AAAs on GameRankings and only 4 AAs.

FACT: The 360 has 8 AAAs and 55 AAs on GameRankings

Those are facts, my friend, and your opinion really becomes quite irrelevant in the face of them.

jethrovegas

Yeah, technically, the 360 is the better system, I don't have a problem admitting that. However, why should I care when the FACT is I don't care about all most of those AA/AAA games?

are just jealous.

You call it kiddie but secretly you wish you had games like TP and MP3 exclusive to your system (AAA despite what GS's biased reviewers think).

Even if you wont admit it, you know that SMG and Brawl win in the games catergory and Wii Fit will win in sales. You guys are so scared of sheep now that all of you cows, lemms, and hermits are banding together to pretend that the Wii is a kiddie gimmick.

You guys saw new-gen beat next-gen in the handheld wars, and now you will see new-gen beat next-gen in the console wars.

Acemaster27

Calm down. This kind of talk won't get you anywhere.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

This argument is not about your opinion. This argument is about cold hard facts. Neither my opinion or yours has anything to do with it.

FACT: The 360 has sold approximately 4 times as much software as the Wii.

FACT: The Wii has 3 AAAs on GameRankings and only 4 AAs.

FACT: The 360 has 8 AAAs and 55 AAs on GameRankings

Those are facts, my friend, and your opinion really becomes quite irrelevant in the face of them.

sexy_chimp

Yeah, technically, the 360 is the better system, I don't have a problem admitting that. However, why should I care when the FACT is I don't care about all most of those AA/AAA games?

Its fun to watch the lemms and cows spout all their damage control. It just reminds me of how absolutely right I am in my original post.Acemaster27

Damage control over what? Sales? Is that it? Thats all the sheep has is sales. Get some AAAs and then you can call it damage control.

1) All the Wii haters out there are now laughing.

2) I'm quite sure that a lot of haters aren't jealous of the Wii.

3) What's to say that upcoming games on any system can't be very good, as they aren't reviewed yet (nice try, but SMG and Brawl have quite some AAA potential)?

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

This argument is not about your opinion. This argument is about cold hard facts. Neither my opinion or yours has anything to do with it.

FACT: The 360 has sold approximately 4 times as much software as the Wii.

FACT: The Wii has 3 AAAs on GameRankings and only 4 AAs.

FACT: The 360 has 8 AAAs and 55 AAs on GameRankings

Those are facts, my friend, and your opinion really becomes quite irrelevant in the face of them.

jack_russel

Yeah, technically, the 360 is the better system, I don't have a problem admitting that. However, why should I care when the FACT is I don't care about all most of those AA/AAA games?

Well perhaps I'm off topic however I'm trying to defend the topic creator here. People are saying that the Wii sucks because it has "no good games" however, good games are all an opinion.

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]they're jealous because they ain't getting SSBB & Mario Galaxy.XenoNinja

SSBB & SMG?:lol:You can keep them, I'm happy with Halo 3 and Gears of War which are both AAA games.

SSBB & SMG will be AAAA games... so enjoy your AAA games!:lol:!!!!

I hope to god that you don't believe that SSBB and SMG will get an AAAA :|

Just for that comment you made, I'm going to siggy it :lol:

Believe me, a few days from now SMG will score a 10, I guarantee it.

You my friend are going to get seriously owned.

Someone spelled "kiddie" correctly :o dragonlife29

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

This argument is not about your opinion. This argument is about cold hard facts. Neither my opinion or yours has anything to do with it.

FACT: The 360 has sold approximately 4 times as much software as the Wii.

FACT: The Wii has 3 AAAs on GameRankings and only 4 AAs.

FACT: The 360 has 8 AAAs and 55 AAs on GameRankings

Those are facts, my friend, and your opinion really becomes quite irrelevant in the face of them.

sexy_chimp

Yeah, technically, the 360 is the better system, I don't have a problem admitting that. However, why should I care when the FACTis I don't care about all most of those AA/AAA games?

So what you're saying is that your taste in games should be considered a legitimate point in an argument about game systems? Sweet Lords of Kobol, help us all.

No seriously though, if all you plan on talking about is what you like personally, instead of arguing with facts, then you shoudn't be in System Wars to begin with. :|

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

This argument is not about your opinion. This argument is about cold hard facts. Neither my opinion or yours has anything to do with it.

FACT: The 360 has sold approximately 4 times as much software as the Wii.

FACT: The Wii has 3 AAAs on GameRankings and only 4 AAs.

FACT: The 360 has 8 AAAs and 55 AAs on GameRankings

Those are facts, my friend, and your opinion really becomes quite irrelevant in the face of them.

sexy_chimp

Yeah, technically, the 360 is the better system, I don't have a problem admitting that. However, why should I care when the FACT is I don't care about all most of those AA/AAA games?

Well perhaps I'm off topic however I'm trying to defend the topic creator here. People are saying that the Wii sucks because it has "no good games" however, good games are all an opinion.

As long as it continues to suck it'll continue to be hated on.tomarlyn

All I heard was:

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]As long as it continues to suck it'll continue to be hated on.Haziqonfire

Negating the rest with ''meh'' is high calibre damage control sorry. The 360 has a superb library, possibly the best in recent times and I don't see anything as grand as Oblivion or MGS4 coming to the Wii. But whatever floats you boat if your happy.

From where I'm standing even as a Wii only owner too, its the worst console of many generations. But thats just from my experience.

Ninja Bread Man.

Did I just blow your mind?

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]As long as it continues to suck it'll continue to be hated on.tomarlyn

Negating the rest with ''meh'' is high calibre damage control sorry. The 360 has a superb library, possibly the best in recent times and I don't see anything as grand as Oblivion or MGS4 coming to the Wii. But whatever floats you boat if your happy.

From where I'm standing even as a Wii only owner too, its the worst console of many generations. But thats just from my experience.

Well said. The Wii is cool (I have one, and the few games I have are a lot of fun), but the crap games on the system far outweigh the good games.

I enjoy my wii some what, it has its moments, but its not the same "Nintendo" I grew up with.Prince_Denspion

Zelda, metroid, mariokart, mario platformer, and SSB arent part of the nintendo you grew up with?

Ninja Bread Man.

Did I just blow your mind?

xxcommixx

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/ninjabreadman/index.html?tag=result;title;1

I love how people completely ignore this.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]As long as it continues to suck it'll continue to be hated on.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]As long as it continues to suck it'll continue to be hated on.Just_in

What the hell is it with this generation?

It's like any game without online can't be good.