Alright Haze bashers.... Clue us in on something

Help me out here. I guess I am missing something.

360 Owners - Tell us how Haze would have scored better if it were on the 360. Tells us what would have been done differently and how the difference in hardware would have improved the score.

Wii Owners - Tell us how Wii could have handled Haze. Tell us how it would have been improved upon on the Wii's hardware to give it a better score.

My point, you have no real good answers. Wanna bash the 50 people in the world who hyped HAze, fine. But acting as if this game's score says anything about PS3 abilities is false.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you got real answers. My guess is, you don't.

6.0

the review is done cows got owned yet again same old story

Just as I thought, baseless fanboys come in with nothing to add.

Well... at least the commercial is cool.:P

A bad game is a bad game no matter what system it's on, I just don't think anybody expected it to be unplayable bad.

6.0

the review is done cows got owned yet again same old story

beerm_basic

owned how exactly?

errr nobody said that haze would have been better if itwere on wii or 360 :|

this thread makes no sense :roll: ...Haze was originally going to be multiplat (PS3/360) then the 360 version got cancelled for whatever reason...but fact of the matter is that the game would've sucked regardless...from the first video they showed I thought it looked avg at best and wasn't the least bit disappointed when the 360 version got cancelled

I just fail to see the point of this thread or why it was made...you asked trivial questions then criticized the answers(or lack there of)

its just a bad game, and would be bad on any platform.

Help me out here. I guess I am missing something.

360 Owners - Tell us how Haze would have scored better if it were on the 360. Tells us what would have been done differently and how the difference in hardware would have improved the score.

Wii Owners - Tell us how Wii could have handled Haze. Tell us how it would have been improved upon on the Wii's hardware to give it a better score.

My point, you have no real good answers. Wanna bash the 50 people in the world who hyped HAze, fine. But acting as if this game's score says anything about PS3 abilities is false.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you got real answers. My guess is, you don't.

StringGuard

You act as if you're not a fanboy, but it's getting pretty obvious which side you're on.. This isn't your first post that would indicate this. Time for a new sig maybe?

StringGuard, you seem to hang out a lot here in the SW forum... who said that Haze would have scored higher if it was on xbox 360? If someone actually said that then you just have to think this to yourself "Man, that is the stupidest comment I've heard"... I know I sure as hell would.

Just try to relax, after all, it's not like video games affect your daily life. And if they do, then that's wrong hahah.

errr nobody said that haze would have been better if itwere on wii or 360 :|

mingo123

Anyone with some sort of clue would see that it has nothing to do with the PS3. Yet, every thread we see bashing HAze is basically bashing all of the PS3 and its owners. Its pointless. Its weak.

Why isn't anyone directing "teh pwnage" onto the devs?

Just as I thought, baseless fanboys come in with nothing to add.

StringGuard

There is nothing to add because this is a really lackluster topic a bad game will remain a bad game no matter what console it is on.

Maybe FRD had such a hard time getting their engine up and running on the PS3 hardware that they've spent the last 6 months just trying to get it running in a playable state.

If it were 360 exclusive they could have gotten the technical hurdles out of the way quicker and spent the last 6 months adding a few new obnoxious battle cries instead!

Nah just kidding, the game looked rather bland for a while now, it was going to flop no matter what console it was on.

Haze was simply the latest in a long line of PS3 titles that failed to meet its hype. There wasn't much argument it would be better on another console, just that it wouldn't be good.Danm_999

Err, haze Barley had hype...most actually thought low of it..if i remember.

its just a bad game, and would be bad on any platform.

doobie1975

[QUOTE="StringGuard"]

Help me out here. I guess I am missing something.

360 Owners - Tell us how Haze would have scored better if it were on the 360. Tells us what would have been done differently and how the difference in hardware would have improved the score.

Wii Owners - Tell us how Wii could have handled Haze. Tell us how it would have been improved upon on the Wii's hardware to give it a better score.

My point, you have no real good answers. Wanna bash the 50 people in the world who hyped HAze, fine. But acting as if this game's score says anything about PS3 abilities is false.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you got real answers. My guess is, you don't.

xsubtownerx

You act as if you're not a fanboy, but it's getting pretty obvious which side you're on.. This isn't your first post that would indicate this. Time for a new sig maybe?

I don't blindly support Sony. I see the faults in what they've done, just like the other two. Do you see me *****ing about the Haze score? Do you see me saying it is wrong? Do you see me saying that HAze is good? No, no, no.

But all I see is a bunch of immature children posting on these forums trying to use some lame type of pwnage to bash another faction. Trying to say that because a small handful of predictions were off, we need to create 50 threads an hour telling us how PS3 is failing.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

errr nobody said that haze would have been better if itwere on wii or 360 :|

StringGuard

Anyone with some sort of clue would see that it has nothing to do with the PS3. Yet, every thread we see bashing HAze is basically bashing all of the PS3 and its owners. Its pointless. Its weak.

Why isn't anyone directing "teh pwnage" onto the devs?

After Haze was announced (esp when it went exclusive) I actually saw Cows in threads saying the games graphics were as good as Crysis, post after posting saying how sick this game looked...they overhype games then damage control when they flop and you can't see why people make fun of them??

Should we be making fun of the devs who failed to use the PS3's true power, or should we make fun of Sony for making a machine that isn't dev friendly? All I know is that an exclusive scoring under 7 is horrible. So I think it's ok to make fun of the PS3 hardware and cows. I mean this is SW, isn't it?xsubtownerx

Got to love that maturity. "It is SW isn't it?"

So that means we toss all reality aside. We give in to ignorance and hold its hand helping it along the way? How friggin' sad is that?

:lol:

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Haze was simply the latest in a long line of PS3 titles that failed to meet its hype. There wasn't much argument it would be better on another console, just that it wouldn't be good.Forensic-Klown

Err, haze Barley had hype...most actually thought low of it..if i remember.

Once the demo was released, sure. But there was certainly the throw-around of the term 'Halo killer'.

And look at the context. The PS3 was arguably the most hyped console in history, yet it's also been one of the most dissapointing in terms of exclusive library. Lemmings are jumping on this more than any specific criticism of Haze (because obviously, most of them haven't played it).

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="StringGuard"]

Help me out here. I guess I am missing something.

360 Owners - Tell us how Haze would have scored better if it were on the 360. Tells us what would have been done differently and how the difference in hardware would have improved the score.

Wii Owners - Tell us how Wii could have handled Haze. Tell us how it would have been improved upon on the Wii's hardware to give it a better score.

My point, you have no real good answers. Wanna bash the 50 people in the world who hyped HAze, fine. But acting as if this game's score says anything about PS3 abilities is false.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you got real answers. My guess is, you don't.

StringGuard

You act as if you're not a fanboy, but it's getting pretty obvious which side you're on.. This isn't your first post that would indicate this. Time for a new sig maybe?

I don't blindly support Sony. I see the faults in what they've done, just like the other two. Do you see me *****ing about the Haze score? Do you see me saying it is wrong? Do you see me saying that HAze is good? No, no, no.

But all I see is a bunch of immature children posting on these forums trying to use some lame type of pwnage to bash another faction. Trying to say that because a small handful of predictions were off, we need to create 50 threads an hour telling us how PS3 is failing.

Maybe you should leave SW if this bothers you. I mean this IS the point of SW, isn't it?

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

errr nobody said that haze would have been better if itwere on wii or 360 :|

StringGuard

Anyone with some sort of clue would see that it has nothing to do with the PS3. Yet, every thread we see bashing HAze is basically bashing all of the PS3 and its owners. Its pointless. Its weak.

Why isn't anyone directing "teh pwnage" onto the devs?

coz alot of cows hyped it :| also haze was part of teh uber 08 killer ps3 lineup

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Should we be making fun of the devs who failed to use the PS3's true power, or should we make fun of Sony for making a machine that isn't dev friendly? All I know is that an exclusive scoring under 7 is horrible. So I think it's ok to make fun of the PS3 hardware and cows. I mean this is SW, isn't it?StringGuard

Got to love that maturity. "It is SW isn't it?"

So that means we toss all reality aside. We give in to ignorance and hold its hand helping it along the way? How friggin' sad is that?

:lol:

So you agree with me? :P

[QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="StringGuard"]

Help me out here. I guess I am missing something.

360 Owners - Tell us how Haze would have scored better if it were on the 360. Tells us what would have been done differently and how the difference in hardware would have improved the score.

Wii Owners - Tell us how Wii could have handled Haze. Tell us how it would have been improved upon on the Wii's hardware to give it a better score.

My point, you have no real good answers. Wanna bash the 50 people in the world who hyped HAze, fine. But acting as if this game's score says anything about PS3 abilities is false.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you got real answers. My guess is, you don't.

xsubtownerx

You act as if you're not a fanboy, but it's getting pretty obvious which side you're on.. This isn't your first post that would indicate this. Time for a new sig maybe?

I don't blindly support Sony. I see the faults in what they've done, just like the other two. Do you see me *****ing about the Haze score? Do you see me saying it is wrong? Do you see me saying that HAze is good? No, no, no.

But all I see is a bunch of immature children posting on these forums trying to use some lame type of pwnage to bash another faction. Trying to say that because a small handful of predictions were off, we need to create 50 threads an hour telling us how PS3 is failing.

Maybe you should leave SW if this bothers you. I mean this IS the point of SW, isn't it?

Agreed

Cow damage control with Resistance, R&C, HS = Teh biased!

cow damage control with Motorstorm, Lair, Haze = we never hyped these games, what are they, never heard of them before the reviews. It was someone else who put them on all our lists.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Haze was simply the latest in a long line of PS3 titles that failed to meet its hype. There wasn't much argument it would be better on another console, just that it wouldn't be good.Danm_999

Err, haze Barley had hype...most actually thought low of it..if i remember.

Once the demo was released, sure. But there was certainly the throw-around of the term 'Halo killer'.

And look at the context. The PS3 was arguably the most hyped console in history, yet it's also been one of the most dissapointing in terms of exclusive library. Lemmings are jumping on this more than any specific criticism of Haze (because obviously, most of them haven't played it).

Here's the issue. We all, ALL OF US, use screenshots to base our opinion of a game early in development. And, yes, its stupid for anyone to do. Buuuut, we all do it. Why is it that PS3 owners catch all of the flak?

Yes, early on, Haze looked great. It looked to be bnear Crysis quality and matching the graphics of Halo. That is how it appeared in the screenshots. But, oh, how misleading that was. Just like it always is.

[QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

errr nobody said that haze would have been better if itwere on wii or 360 :|

mingo123

Anyone with some sort of clue would see that it has nothing to do with the PS3. Yet, every thread we see bashing HAze is basically bashing all of the PS3 and its owners. Its pointless. Its weak.

Why isn't anyone directing "teh pwnage" onto the devs?

coz alot of cows hyped it :| also haze was part of teh uber 08 killer ps3 lineup

Cow damage control with Resistance, R&C, HS = Teh biased!

cow damage control with Motorstorm, Lair, Haze = we never hyped these games, what are they, never heard of them before the reviews. It was someone else who put them on all our lists.

blue_hazy_basic

Trying to say that because a small handful of predictions were off, we need to create 50 threads an hour telling us how PS3 is failing.

StringGuard

Because the PS3 is failing. Look at it there is not one AAA title that you could not get on the 360. There is barly any suport compared to the PS2 or PS1. There are no JRPG titles out in the US yet which helped both the PS1 and PS2. Now take all this in with the fact the system has been out for a year and a half. Expect for MGS4 this does not look like it going to change in the next few months.

The system is selling right now just on two facts it the follow up from the PS2 and it has a Blue Ray. Again MGS4 may change this but has it stands right now there is no reason to buy a PS3 over a 360 unless you are worried about a RROD.

And please don't call me a lemming

[QUOTE="beerm_basic"]

6.0

the review is done cows got owned yet again same old story

hellrazor06

owned how exactly?

Ah, he's sooo right, I got owned yesterday by a game getting a low score that I didnt plan on purchasing anyway!!! OWNED!

First you shouldn't be able to run throw a demo and don't have to kill anyone to get from start to finish.

The AI is rejected. Fix it... Simple.

Killing just humans alll thhhhhhhhhheeeeeee ttimmmmmmmmmeeeee gets old.

Craaaaaappppppppppyyyyyyyyy Gunnnnnnnssssss.

See where I am getting at?

Maybe you should leave SW if this bothers you. I mean this IS the point of SW, isn't it?

xsubtownerx

The point of SW is to debate which system is best. And when you debate, you speak on facts.

What you are trying to say is that SW is for bashing otehr gamers. That SW is to bring in whatever ignorant crap you want to as long as its used to bash another faction.

If you really think SW is for that, I feel sorry for you.

Help me out here. I guess I am missing something.

360 Owners - Tell us how Haze would have scored better if it were on the 360. Tells us what would have been done differently and how the difference in hardware would have improved the score.

Wii Owners - Tell us how Wii could have handled Haze. Tell us how it would have been improved upon on the Wii's hardware to give it a better score.

My point, you have no real good answers. Wanna bash the 50 people in the world who hyped HAze, fine. But acting as if this game's score says anything about PS3 abilities is false.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you got real answers. My guess is, you don't.

StringGuard

Damage control is fun. I should try that next time a game on PC completely gets owned.

FLIPPY FLOP FLAM FLOZZLE!!

It flopped. No surprise. The demo reeked. Just take it and move on. MGS4 is around the corner. Honestly who gives a frack?

Yes, early on, Haze looked great. It looked to be bnear Crysis quality

StringGuard

huh lol no way man. I admit the first scrrens looked great because they were shot at a great angle.(you can make every game look great when shot at a good angle.

but Crysis quality?

[QUOTE="StringGuard"]

Trying to say that because a small handful of predictions were off, we need to create 50 threads an hour telling us how PS3 is failing.

HarlockJC

Because the PS3 is failing. Look at it there is not one AAA title that you could not get on the 360. There is barly any suport compared to the PS2 or PS1. There are no JRPG titles out in the US yet which helped both the PS1 and PS2. Now take all this in with the fact the system has been out for a year and a half. Expect for MGS4 this does not look like it going to change in the next few months.

The system is selling right now just on two facts it the follow up from the PS2 and it has a Blue Ray. Again MGS4 may change this but has it stands right now there is no reason to buy a PS3 over a 360 unless you are worried about a RROD.

And please don't call me a lemming

Based on that comment, how do you expect to not get called a lemming? Blu Ray discs sales are tanking by the way, incase you think that "everyone" is buying a PS3 solely for Blu Ray. The PS3 has all kinds of great games. If the PS3 library really sucked I guarantee you that it wouldnt be selling this well. So what if the PS3 doesnt have any AAAE or whatever, who cares? I have an Xbox 360 and I still prefer my PS3. Is that a sin or something? No, it's a preference. I'm not the only one in the world who feels like that either.

[QUOTE="StringGuard"]

Yes, early on, Haze looked great. It looked to be bnear Crysis quality

killerfist

huh lol no way man. I admit the first scrrens looked great because they were shot at a great angle.(you can make every game look great when shot at a good angle.

but Crysis quality?

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Haze was simply the latest in a long line of PS3 titles that failed to meet its hype. There wasn't much argument it would be better on another console, just that it wouldn't be good.StringGuard

Err, haze Barley had hype...most actually thought low of it..if i remember.

Once the demo was released, sure. But there was certainly the throw-around of the term 'Halo killer'.

And look at the context. The PS3 was arguably the most hyped console in history, yet it's also been one of the most dissapointing in terms of exclusive library. Lemmings are jumping on this more than any specific criticism of Haze (because obviously, most of them haven't played it).

Here's the issue. We all, ALL OF US, use screenshots to base our opinion of a game early in development. And, yes, its stupid for anyone to do. Buuuut, we all do it. Why is it that PS3 owners catch all of the flak?

Yes, early on, Haze looked great. It looked to be bnear Crysis quality and matching the graphics of Halo. That is how it appeared in the screenshots. But, oh, how misleading that was. Just like it always is.

No, it doesn't. They aren't operating under the same context.

The 360 and Wii libraries have not been constant dissapointments in exclusives. The context is completely different.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="StringGuard"]

Trying to say that because a small handful of predictions were off, we need to create 50 threads an hour telling us how PS3 is failing.

carljohnson3456

Because the PS3 is failing. Look at it there is not one AAA title that you could not get on the 360. There is barly any suport compared to the PS2 or PS1. There are no JRPG titles out in the US yet which helped both the PS1 and PS2. Now take all this in with the fact the system has been out for a year and a half. Expect for MGS4 this does not look like it going to change in the next few months.

The system is selling right now just on two facts it the follow up from the PS2 and it has a Blue Ray. Again MGS4 may change this but has it stands right now there is no reason to buy a PS3 over a 360 unless you are worried about a RROD.

And please don't call me a lemming

Based on that comment, how do you expect to not get called a lemming? Blu Ray discs sales are tanking by the way, incase you think that "everyone" is buying a PS3 solely for Blu Ray. The PS3 has all kinds of great games. If the PS3 library really sucked I guarantee you that it wouldnt be selling this well. So what if the PS3 doesnt have any AAAE or whatever, who cares? I have an Xbox 360 and I still prefer my PS3. Is that a sin or something? No, it's a preference. I'm not the only one in the world who feels like that either.

No it not a sin I have all three also. But the fact is you have an Xbox. Right now what reason would someone have to buy a PS3 over the 360? Not on what coming out but based on what out right now. If you only could get one or the other? RFOM over Halo or GofW? Warhawk over Bioshock or Mass Effect? No JRPGs over many on the 360?

[QUOTE="StringGuard"] And this doesn't happen with Wii owenrs or 360 owners? :lol:

Here's the issue. We all, ALL OF US, use screenshots to base our opinion of a game early in development. And, yes, its stupid for anyone to do. Buuuut, we all do it. Why is it that PS3 owners catch all of the flak?

Yes, early on, Haze looked great. It looked to be bnear Crysis quality and matching the graphics of Halo. That is how it appeared in the screenshots. But, oh, how misleading that was. Just like it always is.

Danm_999

No, it doesn't. They aren't operating under the same context.

The 360 and Wii libraries have not been constant dissapointments in exclusives. The context is completely different.

Sure about that?

http://kotaku.com/355812/say-did-you-know-how-many-wii-games-suck

You just don't get it. Whether by choice or genuine ignorance, you don't get it. NO ONE has seriously used Haze as a platform to bash the PS3's capabilities. It was hyped to be AA in the OFFICIAL hype thread, and it failed to even get an A score. If flopped, end of story. Don't try to dance around that.
Verge_6

I don't disagree with that. You want to look at the "official" Haze hype thread and see what cows made the high score claim, fine. Go bash them.

But you can't tell me that you haven't seen what I am talking about. People use this "teh pwnage" to bash PS3, in general, and the PS3, in general. That's my issue. Like anyone out in the real world would go look at a game on a shelf and say, "well, even though it got a 7, 'cows' said it would be a 9. So, I won't get this game." :lol:

Nobody is saying it's about the PS3's abilities. It's simply how system wars works; people hype something for whatever reasons, and if it fails to live up to the hype, other people then claim ownage on how wrong they were.

When Haze was first revealed the PS3 fanboys were all over it. It's jungle screens were compared to Crysis. And no i'm not saying every PS3 owner thought that - it's rediculous - but it was still said by more than one person. It was hyped up to be a AAA game, then as time went on that was dropped down to more like AA, and even then it ended up being a 6.0 mediocre game.

So stop complaining and just let people claim ownage.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="StringGuard"]

Trying to say that because a small handful of predictions were off, we need to create 50 threads an hour telling us how PS3 is failing.

HarlockJC

Because the PS3 is failing. Look at it there is not one AAA title that you could not get on the 360. There is barly any suport compared to the PS2 or PS1. There are no JRPG titles out in the US yet which helped both the PS1 and PS2. Now take all this in with the fact the system has been out for a year and a half. Expect for MGS4 this does not look like it going to change in the next few months.

The system is selling right now just on two facts it the follow up from the PS2 and it has a Blue Ray. Again MGS4 may change this but has it stands right now there is no reason to buy a PS3 over a 360 unless you are worried about a RROD.

And please don't call me a lemming

Based on that comment, how do you expect to not get called a lemming? Blu Ray discs sales are tanking by the way, incase you think that "everyone" is buying a PS3 solely for Blu Ray. The PS3 has all kinds of great games. If the PS3 library really sucked I guarantee you that it wouldnt be selling this well. So what if the PS3 doesnt have any AAAE or whatever, who cares? I have an Xbox 360 and I still prefer my PS3. Is that a sin or something? No, it's a preference. I'm not the only one in the world who feels like that either.

No it not a sin I have all three also. But the fact is you have an Xbox. Right now what reason would someone have to buy a PS3 over the 360? Not on what coming out but based on what out right now. If you only could get one or the other? RFOM over Halo or GofW? Warhawk over Bioshock or Mass Effect? No JRPGs over many on the 360?

Well I can tell you it probably has nothing to do with Blu Ray if that is the question gamers are asking themselves before they buy a console.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]You just don't get it. Whether by choice or genuine ignorance, you don't get it. NO ONE has seriously used Haze as a platform to bash the PS3's capabilities. It was hyped to be AA in the OFFICIAL hype thread, and it failed to even get an A score. If flopped, end of story. Don't try to dance around that.
StringGuard

I don't disagree with that. You want to look at the "official" Haze hype thread and see what cows made the high score claim, fine. Go bash them.

But you can't tell me that you haven't seen what I am talking about. People use this "teh pwnage" to bash PS3, in general, and the PS3, in general. That's my issue. Like anyone out in the real world would go look at a game on a shelf and say, "well, even though it got a 7, 'cows' said it would be a 9. So, I won't get this game." :lol:

Show me these threads where people are using Haze as a basis for the PS3's capabilites.

And where in all the seven hells are you getting the idea that this board has ANY correlation with the real world? This is an e-penis waving contest, nothing more. You're seeing things that aren't there.