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#51  Edited By BassMan
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I play all multi-plats on PC and the Switch would be my last choice as it has the worst hardware. I only care about the exclusives on it. Same as the other consoles.

Nintendo fucked their console fans by going with weak mobile tech. That move basically assured that they will not be getting AAA multi-plats because the hardware can not run them. It sucks for people that get Switch as a primary platform as they will not have many games to play.

Honestly, I don't think Nintendo likes third party competition because they want their own games to sell. When there isn't too much competition on a platform, the attention shifts to the first party titles as the stand out titles. Without games like The Witcher, Mass Effect, GTA, Battlefield, etc. to compete with, Nintendo games look that much better all of the sudden and become the focus of purchases.

Nintendo used to be one of the best AAA developers where they consistently pumped out the very best games in the industry. It wasn't even about first party or third party, they were simply making some of the best games. They have become complacent and no longer push the envelope and just do their own thing. The rest of the industry caught up and passed them. Nintendo can still put out a gem here and there, but most of their games these days are not AAA.

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#52 JangoWuzHere
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@foxhound_fox said:
@JangoWuzHere said:

Nope, I just want the system for the exclusives.

Which is disappointing, because there really aren't that many exclusives at all for it in the first year. I probably don't see myself buying a Switch until at least a couple years pass.

And this is why so-called "fans" will never be pleased by a Nintendo product.

A brand new Zelda and a brand new Mario platformer in the first year and this isn't "enough" when Sony took over three years to release anything of note beyond Bloodborne.

I don't see an reason to get a Switch for Zelda when I can play it on my Wii U. I'm personally interested in the new Mario and Splatoon this year, everything else is simply wait and see. That's definitely not enough for me to rush out and spend $300 on a new console. Considering the output of games that Nintendo is usually good at, the dripfeed line up announced this year is pretty disappointing. With the Switch being a hybrid console, I expected to see almost double the amount of software announced this year, not just a Wii U esque year.

I don't think the Sony comparison fits at all. The amount of console exclusives and multiplatform games made that system far more enticing. It didn't need strictly exclusive games, because it had more to offer than just that.

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#53 mjorh
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Well, PC is my main platform so i play multiplats there

However, Switch being portable might had persuaded me to get some games on it...but at the end, i don't think i would've sacrificed the way better quality for only playing the game on the go, and i certainly i wouldn't have double dipped.

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#54 foxhound_fox
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@JangoWuzHere said:

I don't see an reason to get a Switch for Zelda when I can play it on my Wii U. I'm personally interested in the new Mario and Splatoon this year, everything else is simply wait and see. That's definitely not enough for me to rush out and spend $300 on a new console. Considering the output of games that Nintendo is usually good at, the dripfeed line up announced this year is pretty disappointing. With the Switch being a hybrid console, I expected to see almost double the amount of software announced this year, not just a Wii U esque year.

I don't think the Sony comparison fits at all. The amount of console exclusives and multiplatform games made that system far more enticing. It didn't need strictly exclusive games, because it had more to offer than just that.

"Nope, I just want the system for the exclusives".

So what does the multiplatform offerings on the PS4 do to counteract the barren wasteland that was Sony's exclusive offerings for someone who would play the multiplats on say PC?

You are moving the goal posts here. They are releasing two huge first party exclusives games within the first year, and a handful of redone Wii U games... which is significantly more than either Sony or MS offered in the first year of their new platforms.

This is exactly what I was talking about. Nintendo is held to a different standard by "fans" and can never fully satisfy some people despite them doing MORE than the other manufacturers.

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#55 PSP107
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@SexyJazzCat:

Are you buying a Scorpio instead?

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#56 clone01
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@storm_of_swords said:

I buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games. It's not a big deal to me if it doesn't get multiplats since I have other systems for multiplats.

If the Nintendo Switch did receive all multiplats, I still would not buy most of them on the Nintendo Switch since I would prefer to play most of them on Xbox for more power and better online. The only exception would be for retro style games like Sonic Mania since retro style games just feel like they belong on a Nintendo console to me.

Same here. The portability is cool, but I'd probably buy multiplats for the XBox One, especially multiplayer component games.

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#57  Edited By JangoWuzHere
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@foxhound_fox said:
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I don't see an reason to get a Switch for Zelda when I can play it on my Wii U. I'm personally interested in the new Mario and Splatoon this year, everything else is simply wait and see. That's definitely not enough for me to rush out and spend $300 on a new console. Considering the output of games that Nintendo is usually good at, the dripfeed line up announced this year is pretty disappointing. With the Switch being a hybrid console, I expected to see almost double the amount of software announced this year, not just a Wii U esque year.

I don't think the Sony comparison fits at all. The amount of console exclusives and multiplatform games made that system far more enticing. It didn't need strictly exclusive games, because it had more to offer than just that.

"Nope, I just want the system for the exclusives".

So what does the multiplatform offerings on the PS4 do to counteract the barren wasteland that was Sony's exclusive offerings for someone who would play the multiplats on say PC?

You are moving the goal posts here. They are releasing two huge first party exclusives games within the first year, and a handful of redone Wii U games... which is significantly more than either Sony or MS offered in the first year of their new platforms.

This is exactly what I was talking about. Nintendo is held to a different standard by "fans" and can never fully satisfy some people despite them doing MORE than the other manufacturers.

"So what does the multiplatform offerings on the PS4 do to counteract the barren wasteland that was Sony's exclusive offerings for someone who would play the multiplats on say PC?"

Quite a lot actually, considering the fact that a lot of multiplatform PC games suffered from pretty atrocious ports over these past few years. See, this is why your 1:1 comparison just doesn't work. Just because a game is multiplatform, that doesn't mean its a guaranteed purchase for the PC. Speaking personally as mainly a PC gamer, I've bought a lot of multiplatform games on my PS4 to avoid headaches with bad PC ports. That is the nature of the PC platform, it is guaranteed to have some technical stinkers. Heck, even if a game wasn't a bad port, I may have bought it on the PS4 anyway. Multiplayer communities are much larger on consoles in comparison to PC for a lot of games. For example, If I ever buy a Call of Duty game, I will always avoid the PC version. A Call of Duty game is pretty much dead on release for PC these days, while the console player base usually can last for a few years.

I'm sure if you did the math, the Switch comes out on top when it comes to strictly exclusives. However, the entire situation is a lot more complicated then just a straight comparison like that.

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#58  Edited By smashed_pinata
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I don't find most of the AAA fare 3rd party stuff enjoyable so probably not.

A few i might pick up i guess

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#59  Edited By foxhound_fox
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@JangoWuzHere said:

"So what does the multiplatform offerings on the PS4 do to counteract the barren wasteland that was Sony's exclusive offerings for someone who would play the multiplats on say PC?"

Quite a lot actually, considering the fact that a lot of multiplatform PC games suffered from pretty atrocious ports over these past few years. See, this is why your 1:1 comparison just doesn't work. Just because a game is multiplatform, that doesn't mean its a guaranteed purchase for the PC. Speaking personally as mainly a PC gamer, I've bought a lot of multiplatform games on my PS4 to avoid headaches with bad PC ports. That is the nature of the PC platform, it is guaranteed to have some technical stinkers. Heck, even if a game wasn't a bad port, I may have bought it on the PS4 anyway. Multiplayer communities are much larger on consoles in comparison to PC for a lot of games. For example, If I ever buy a Call of Duty game, I will always avoid the PC version. A Call of Duty game is pretty much dead on release for PC these days, while the console player base usually can last for a few years.

I'm sure if you did the math, the Switch comes out on top when it comes to strictly exclusives. However, the entire situation is a lot more complicated then just a straight comparison like that.

Over the last 3-4 years, there has been less than 10 high profile PC ports that I can think of that have been poor upon release... and pretty much all of them have been fixed since release.

I as a PC gamer wait until 1-2 years after these games to release not only to get them cheaper, but to avoid early adoption problems (which plenty of console versions suffer from as well). Plus you end up getting all the DLC for one low price.

But just keep avoiding the different standards argument. That's fine.

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#60  Edited By JangoWuzHere
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@foxhound_fox said:
@JangoWuzHere said:

"So what does the multiplatform offerings on the PS4 do to counteract the barren wasteland that was Sony's exclusive offerings for someone who would play the multiplats on say PC?"

Quite a lot actually, considering the fact that a lot of multiplatform PC games suffered from pretty atrocious ports over these past few years. See, this is why your 1:1 comparison just doesn't work. Just because a game is multiplatform, that doesn't mean its a guaranteed purchase for the PC. Speaking personally as mainly a PC gamer, I've bought a lot of multiplatform games on my PS4 to avoid headaches with bad PC ports. That is the nature of the PC platform, it is guaranteed to have some technical stinkers. Heck, even if a game wasn't a bad port, I may have bought it on the PS4 anyway. Multiplayer communities are much larger on consoles in comparison to PC for a lot of games. For example, If I ever buy a Call of Duty game, I will always avoid the PC version. A Call of Duty game is pretty much dead on release for PC these days, while the console player base usually can last for a few years.

I'm sure if you did the math, the Switch comes out on top when it comes to strictly exclusives. However, the entire situation is a lot more complicated then just a straight comparison like that.

Over the last 3-4 years, there has been less than 10 high profile PC ports that I can think of that have been poor upon release... and pretty much all of them have been fixed since release.

I as a PC gamer wait until 1-2 years after these games to release not only to get them cheaper, but to avoid early adoption problems (which plenty of console versions suffer from as well). Plus you end up getting all the DLC for one low price.

But just keep avoiding the different standards argument. That's fine.

I don't really understand what you're even arguing about at this point. I've already listed why I don't find the Switch enticing. I want more exclusives for that platform before I lay down $300. You try to apply that argument to the PS4, but that obviously doesn't work for me. Maybe it does for you, considering you wait two years before even buying these games, but that definitely doesn't apply to a lot of people.

I also don't really get the sour hostility in your posts. It's not like I'm calling the Switch worthless. I've just decided to wait a bit before I buy it. A lot of people feel the same as me. The Switch has a lot of potential, but I don't see the appeal at the moment. I felt the same about the Wii U, waited a few years before picking one up.

And you are seriously low balling the amount of bad PC ports released over the past few years. 10? Probably more like triple or quadruple that amount.

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#61 mems_1224
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If the switch was as basically a portable xbone with Nintendo exclusives instead I would be willing to shell out $400-500 for it

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#62 SexyJazzCat
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@PSP107: lol no.

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#63  Edited By Lilseb93
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No and I think most gamers would agree. The only games I would buy for the Switch if I do buy it in the future is their exclusives because they make great first party games. Basically their systems have been a first party only machine for me for years.

I don't see a reason to buy a big triple A game like Mass Effect on a worse hardware even if it's on the go. When I'm on the go, I'm not playing games.

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#64  Edited By PopGotcha
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I'm buying one purely for Nintendo games. That's it.

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#65 superbuuman
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yes if it comes to Switchy...bought it on Wii U..the few that it did get. :P

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#66 remiks00
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@osan0 said:

no i wouldnt. i would get them on the PC. even if the switch was more powerful than scorpio i would get them for the PC. why wouldnt i get them for the PC? that goes for any game on any other device really. if i could play wipeout or gravity rush or forza (i know there is a version out now) on the PC then why on earth would i get them on an xbox or playstation?

im not one of those "nintendo platform for nintendo games only" people though. half my wii library was 3rd party and mostly very enjoyable games. but all of them were exclusive to the wii. i dont really care who makes the game as long as its good. if its really really good and grabs my attention then i will pick up the required device to play it. but if i get even a whiff that the game will come to the PC then i wont get another device to play it.

Yeah, those are my exact thoughts across the board.

@reduc_ab_ said:

The Switch is not an existential crisis. I opened this thread thinking I'd find an existential crisis.

Ha, sorry to disappoint.

@osan0 Thats exactly how I feel.

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#67 LegatoSkyheart
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It is one hell of a HUGE factor cause that means the less support the Switch gets, the more droughts it will have and that doesn't look good to the consumer. IE me.

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#68 CrashNBurn281
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If the AAA game made sense to buy on Switch I would.

To clarify, if the title took advantage of the hardware's abilities and didn't have enough too much compromise I could see myself buying it on Switch.

If the title was a high demanding title that would best be utilized by different hardware then that is the route I would take.

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#69 David719
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Hell no, the Switch is considerably less powerful than the Xbox One, which means that it would have worst version of almost every multiplat title.

Now that I think of it, I don't think I've bought a multiplat on a console in quite a long time.

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#70 illmatic87
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Yeah, Zelda is a multiplat so that counts as a yes?

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#71  Edited By GameboyTroy
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@GameboyTroy said:

Is that clickbait TC? I had no idea what the thread was going to be about until I clicked on it. What a misleading thread title.

But...

Can we all agree on that?

Am I the only one that doesn't think that?

Are you the only one that does think that?

Its still a misleading title. I'm just going to leave this here.

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#72 nygamespotter
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Wow, this is pathetic. Defending Nintendo at this point is embarrassing.

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@Renegade_Fury said:

Forgetting online play for a second, if the system was powerful like the N64 and GCN, I would. As it is though, I'd skip on them for the Switch like I did for the ps2.

I'm getting Sonic Mania for the Switch. I feel that Sonic Mania is perfect for an on the go experience for me :)

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#74 FireEmblem_Man
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@zassimick said:

It really depends on the game but if the multiplats released on PC, PS4, and X1 and ran the same or with only a minor downgrade then I would definitely consider it over the other consoles.

The portability means a lot to me.

I see Sonic Mania being the best multiplat title for the Switch over the Xbox One/PS4 version as 2D games are great for on the go experience

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#75 Shewgenja
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It would depend on the game or how much traveling I am doing for work. Some years are nuts, others not.

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#76 SmearyGoose1768
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No I wouldn't. I like playing those AAA multiplats on my Xbox One. I preordered the Switch for Zelda, Mario, Fire Emblem, Metroid, Dragon Quest, Pokémon and so on.

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#77 danjammer69
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I will only own the Switch for the exclusives.

Multiplats can be better played elsewhere. Simple as that.

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#78  Edited By GunSmith1_basic
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yeah, I would get the Switch version in some cases. Any game that would benefit from the joycons for multiplayer I would. Having a game portable is also nice. Plus, I like cartridges.

edit: I should say though, that I really don't care about graphics at all. I'd still game on ps3 if the games came out on it.

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#79  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Nope. I'd play them on PC.

But that doesn't mean that there isn't a potential market out there for a Nintendo console that gets Nintendo games and competes on the multiplat front as well.

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#80 AnthonyAutumns
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I play multiplat games on PC so I won't mind.

But what if Sega and Nintendo made a partnership where Sega makes the console and Nintendo makes the games specifically for that hardware?

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#81  Edited By Renegade_Fury  Online
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Renegade_Fury said:

Forgetting online play for a second, if the system was powerful like the N64 and GCN, I would. As it is though, I'd skip on them for the Switch like I did for the ps2.

I'm getting Sonic Mania for the Switch. I feel that Sonic Mania is perfect for an on the go experience for me :)

Nice, I have it pre-ordered for the PC. I'm going for an authentic experience via playing Mania with a Saturn controller. :)

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#82 Pedro
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After watching the DF video I am more willing to accept the device as a handheld device versus home console. Nintendo is making a terrible marketing decision by pushing the system as a home console. Marketed as a handheld device would gain more traction even though the portability is less than stellar.

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#83  Edited By 22Toothpicks
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I can see the appeal of portability for certain 'lighter' games but for something like, say, RDR 2, I would favor the specs of the home consoles. The portability will always be a trade off for performance and maybe even features that would otherwise be in the game on a home console. That compromise just isn't worth being able to take the game wherever I want; do I really want to play some big, epic, open world game like a RDR 2 with relatively shit performance? Oh, if the Switch were some sort of 1TF beast handheld I would probably be all about it. But it's pretty much top of the line handheld hardware. And now I'm veering off topic.

Then you factor in Nintendo's practices with online and how, even when they do get a AAA multiplat, it's usually a gimped version...eh.

I'm fine with a 'Nintendo only+random 3rd part exclusive box.'

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#84 22Toothpicks
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@Pedro said:

After watching the DF video I am more willing to accept the device as a handheld device versus home console. Nintendo is making a terrible marketing decision by pushing the system as a home console. Marketed as a handheld device would gain more traction even though the portability is less than stellar.

With that price? Nah. Nintendo needs to push their silly hybrid narrative real hard.

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#85 ConanTheStoner
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@nygamespotter said:

Wow, this is pathetic. Defending Nintendo at this point is embarrassing.

Wut?

@GameboyTroy said:

Its still a misleading title.

Jokes, my friend. It was a joke. Maybe an unfunny joke, but still a joke.

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#86 oflow
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who besides 12 year olds walks around playing games? I like gaming but damn I got other things to do when I leave the house besides play games. If I'm on a trip its for vacation and I'm not trying to play games on vacation either.

I mean I can see it being a bit useful for a long daily commute or something, but its healthy for me to actually seperate from gaming and have cooldown periods in a day. People are already zombified by their phones.

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#87 firedguy33
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No. PC would still be the best hardware to play it with followed closely by XBOX/PS4.