Am I the only one not excited for RB6V:2?

You're exactly right. That's what Ubisoft has decided to do with its games, remember GRAW?

Ubisoft has become the new EA.

But I think I will buy RSV2 since I really loved the first one.

I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.HappyAppe

I think its even now ;)

I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.HappyAppe

[QUOTE="HappyAppe"]I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.-Montauk-

Thats obviously not what I meant. Just the way they are implemented in the game seems very similar.

No i'm not really excited for RB6V:2

[QUOTE="HappyAppe"]I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.II-FBIsniper-II

I think its even now ;)

How would they have stolen most ideas from Halo 3 if they were in development at the same time and released around the same time?

COD4 really took some of the ideas in RB6:V but made them so much better.

[QUOTE="-Montauk-"][QUOTE="HappyAppe"]I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.HappyAppe

Thats obviously not what I meant. Just the way they are implemented in the game seems very similar.

[QUOTE="HappyAppe"]I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.II-FBIsniper-II

I think its even now ;)

It seems like there is a lot of buzz going for the second installment of rainbow six vegas as of late. However, i don't see what all the fuss is about. The game looks exactly the same as the first one, its practically an expansion with new missions and some new multiplayer modes. I just don't see a reason to drop 60 bones on this game. Does anyone agree with me? By the way i own the first one and i think its a great game...just don't see the worth of this new one.whodeysay85

I didn't see a reason to drop £50 on the first one in all honesty.

I am still waiting for them to fix all the bugs and crashes from the first one. It may be just me but I think Ubisoft is really pushing the limits of sloppy as of recently.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]

[QUOTE="HappyAppe"]I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.JPOBS

I think its even now ;)

Im not excited at all, I have the first one and I thought it wasnt that good, the campaign wasnt that bad, but the online was horrible.EVOLV3

Aint that the truth. May I be so bold as to suggest that all P2P online games suck? Leading shots kind of distracts me from the realism tbh.

H3 cant sprint or shoot through things, or level XP :?
JPOBS

How would they have stolen most ideas from Halo 3 if they were in development at the same time and released around the same time?

COD4 really took some of the ideas in RB6:V but made them so much better.

HappyAppe

Yes it does have level XP.

The matchmaking is almost exactly like Halo 2's, but imo worse.

They took the unlocks from RSV.

They took the XP bar from RSV.

Customizable weapons from RSV.

I didn't want to start an argument, I just thought it was silly to say a game is stealing from another game that got most of its features from other games.

If they used the same gameplay mechanics and just put us in a different location that would have been a step up from Vegas 2. It just seems all the same. All the levels are going to seem straight out of the original. It's not worth 60 bucks.HappyAppe

It looks mighty similar to the first one... but hey, it was an amazing game. So long as there's enough there to justify the asking price, i'll pick it up. I'm not too happy with ubi soft's new practice of making expansion packs into sequels though. Back before they became an epic company, every Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon game would release, followed by an expansion pack a while later which would provide new multiplayer maps and a quick burst of single player for a budget price. It was a great system. You'd finish your new Ghost Recon, then know a nice big chunk extra was on the way. When you finish that... you've got a new game on the way. Awesome.

Now they seem to take the expansions, charge full price, and call them sequels.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]

[QUOTE="HappyAppe"]I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.HappyAppe

I think its even now ;)

How would they have stolen most ideas from Halo 3 if they were in development at the same time and released around the same time?

COD4 really took some of the ideas in RB6:V but made them so much better.

The entire COD4 multiplayer system is a hands-down rip straight out of halo. :? Heck, you can take a screenshot of both menus.... they're identical.

It looks mighty similar to the first one... but hey, it was an amazing game. So long as there's enough there to justify the asking price, i'll pick it up. I'm not too happy with ubi soft's new practice of making expansion packs into sequels though. Back before they became an epic company, every Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon game would release, followed by an expansion pack a while later which would provide new multiplayer maps and a quick burst of single player for a budget price. It was a great system. You'd finish your new Ghost Recon, then know a nice big chunk extra was on the way. When you finish that... you've got a new game on the way. Awesome.

Now they seem to take the expansions, charge full price, and call them sequels.

Ninja-Vox

Even the finished games are below a certain standard of quality we all expect at that price tag.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

It looks mighty similar to the first one... but hey, it was an amazing game. So long as there's enough there to justify the asking price, i'll pick it up. I'm not too happy with ubi soft's new practice of making expansion packs into sequels though. Back before they became an epic company, every Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon game would release, followed by an expansion pack a while later which would provide new multiplayer maps and a quick burst of single player for a budget price. It was a great system. You'd finish your new Ghost Recon, then know a nice big chunk extra was on the way. When you finish that... you've got a new game on the way. Awesome.

Now they seem to take the expansions, charge full price, and call them sequels.

leejohnson7

Even the finished games are below a certain standard of quality we all expect at that price tag.

I had no problems with GRAW1 and Vegas. Both fantastic games. And Vegas is still one of the best online shooters out there today.

I am a huge fan of the first one and really looking forward to the second one. IMO they really did not need to change much. The formula worked really well for me the first time around. I like how they added some game play mechanics found in COD4. It is really going to bring a whole another level to the game.

It great timing as I am completely over Cod4...and the 2 shot head kills..

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

It looks mighty similar to the first one... but hey, it was an amazing game. So long as there's enough there to justify the asking price, i'll pick it up. I'm not too happy with ubi soft's new practice of making expansion packs into sequels though. Back before they became an epic company, every Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon game would release, followed by an expansion pack a while later which would provide new multiplayer maps and a quick burst of single player for a budget price. It was a great system. You'd finish your new Ghost Recon, then know a nice big chunk extra was on the way. When you finish that... you've got a new game on the way. Awesome.

Now they seem to take the expansions, charge full price, and call them sequels.

Ninja-Vox

Even the finished games are below a certain standard of quality we all expect at that price tag.

I had no problems with GRAW1 and Vegas. Both fantastic games. And Vegas is still one of the best online shooters out there today.

GRAW was awesome but I just had to ditch it once animation glitches started with all their glory.

Both have minor AI issues. R6 V has major splitscreen faults (such as sound glitches, and BS support for 4 players)and increased chances of freezing while in splitscreen. I guess the story was long and fun, but by then I had drawn the line and found a perfect example of lazy development which again, distracts me from enjoying the game. I just don't think Ubisoft know what they are doing.

I just don't think Ubisoft know what they are doing.leejohnson7

Laughing all the way to the bank. RSV was a very popular game and so was GRAW, why not release a sequel with minor improvements only a year after the last one released?

It's exactly what Activision has done with the COD series. Releasing a COD game every year.

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"] I just don't think Ubisoft know what they are doing.II-FBIsniper-II

Laughing all the way to the bank. RSV was a very popular game and so was GRAW, why not release a sequel with minor improvements only a year after the last one released?

It's exactly what Activision has done with the COD series. Releasing a COD game every year.

Yeah, but I'm not a chump and only bought the first and fourth COD, and I am still waiting for Vegas to be completed, let alone some cheap cash in later.

It seems like there is a lot of buzz going for the second installment of rainbow six vegas as of late. However, i don't see what all the fuss is about. The game looks exactly the same as the first one, its practically an expansion with new missions and some new multiplayer modes. I just don't see a reason to drop 60 bones on this game. Does anyone agree with me? By the way i own the first one and i think its a great game...just don't see the worth of this new one.whodeysay85

There is a updated P.E.C and the new A.C.E.S. thing. More guns and a very slight graphical upgrade. But yeah I agree completly. It should be more like $40 or somthing.

It seems like there is a lot of buzz going for the second installment of rainbow six vegas as of late. However, i don't see what all the fuss is about. The game looks exactly the same as the first one, its practically an expansion with new missions and some new multiplayer modes. I just don't see a reason to drop 60 bones on this game. Does anyone agree with me? By the way i own the first one and i think its a great game...just don't see the worth of this new one.whodeysay85

Ugh, I just don't go in for the whole storyline or point of games like these. It's like a crappy version of a cool FPS, that sacrafices cool visuals and interesting content in favor of realism. Guess it works for the Spy Game types, though. I prefer MGS, Halo, or Metroid Prime anyday.

You're exactly right. That's what Ubisoft has decided to do with its games, remember GRAW?

Ubisoft has become the new EA.

But I think I will buy RSV2 since I really loved the first one.

II-FBIsniper-II

I don't think this one will be like GRAW. RSV is a completely different series and every game has been an improvement from the first.

This time there is a lot more depth in the stroy (secrets are revealed, pfft meh i just like the action), the environments are better and most importantyl they have improved the online. Ubi aren't dumb. They know that people mostly play RSV for the online. This time there are obviously new modes weapons maps and also a brand new hop-in-hop-out co-op feature. My one gripe at RSV was its flexibility with adding ppl into games. This time you can jump in to any game and jump out again like a ghost, not ending the session or having to replay a chapter any more. Also terrorist hunt is improved :D And everyone loves TH :D

IM not.

Why?

Rainbow 6 Vegas blows compared to originals.

Id rather go back to playing Raven Shield Athena Sword, and probably will.

[QUOTE="-Montauk-"][QUOTE="HappyAppe"]I loved the first and have been trying to get excited for it, but your right. The more and more I see of it, the less and less excited I get. Looks like the original with some stolen ideas from COD4 like the sprint, shooting through materials, and a better level XP system.HappyAppe

Thats obviously not what I meant. Just the way they are implemented in the game seems very similar.

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Im not excited at all, I have the first one and I thought it wasnt that good, the campaign wasnt that bad, but the online was horrible.leejohnson7

Aint that the truth. May I be so bold as to suggest that all P2P online games suck? Leading shots kind of distracts me from the realism tbh.

You're kidding, right?

Leading Shots = realism. I don't know what planet you're from....

---

But on topic, Rainbow 2 will be sweet. The first one was fantastic (I can see that some of you prefer Run & Gun over Stop & Pop) - wayyy better than CoD4 could ever hope to be. CoD4 is a joke of a modern shooter. There is no realism in CoD4.

I've never cared about any RB6 game, so you aren't the only one.ZIMdoom

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Im not excited at all, I have the first one and I thought it wasnt that good, the campaign wasnt that bad, but the online was horrible.Uncle_Uzi

Aint that the truth. May I be so bold as to suggest that all P2P online games suck? Leading shots kind of distracts me from the realism tbh.

You're kidding, right?

Leading Shots = realism. I don't know what planet you're from....

---

But on topic, Rainbow 2 will be sweet. The first one was fantastic (I can see that some of you prefer Run & Gun over Stop & Pop) - wayyy better than CoD4 could ever hope to be. CoD4 is a joke of a modern shooter. There is no realism in CoD4.

R6 Vegas is anarcade shooter

IM not.

Why?

Rainbow 6 Vegas blows compared to originals.

Id rather go back to playing Raven Shield Athena Sword, and probably will.

skrat_01

YAY:D

[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Im not excited at all, I have the first one and I thought it wasnt that good, the campaign wasnt that bad, but the online was horrible.skrat_01

Aint that the truth. May I be so bold as to suggest that all P2P online games suck? Leading shots kind of distracts me from the realism tbh.

You're kidding, right?

Leading Shots = realism. I don't know what planet you're from....

---

But on topic, Rainbow 2 will be sweet. The first one was fantastic (I can see that some of you prefer Run & Gun over Stop & Pop) - wayyy better than CoD4 could ever hope to be. CoD4 is a joke of a modern shooter. There is no realism in CoD4.

R6 Vegas is anarcade shooter

Also, if you think RSV is an arcade shooter than YOU should seriously play some different FPS games.

Why must everything be reduced to the "my dad can beat up your dad" argument? I don't see where video game snobbery comes from. They're video games, for F's sake. Have some perspective.

Also, what is all this COD4 v Vegas nonsense? They're both as equally realistic as they are equally unrealistic. Again - video games. Perspective. I personally like both games. Sometimes I prefer one over the other, but I can't recall ever grabbing a soap box and shouting, "Cod4 is the bestest, blah, blah, blah."

Get over yourselves.