Am I the only one who don't care about Halo 3?

[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"][QUOTE="Spartan_024"]

Yeah....you got the kids and then some of the adults are just racist jerks.

That's why I only play with people on my friends list, which really mimimizes the encounters with these tards.

Spartan_024

I dont exactly knowwhy semi-competitive XBL games brings out the worst in you.

Not you in particular, just that every semi competitive XBL game holds jerks bragging about how cool they are because they have mad skillz in sniping or being chainsawed only to be followed with racial slurs. I mean it's not as if they act like that in real life right? Its probably because they cant.

Unlike the rather peaceful environment XBLA has.....with the exception of nude cam Uno of course.

It depends on the gamer. I usually do the teabagging stuff when I killed someone who has stronger weapons than mine. But that's about it. Some of these tards get to the point that they act like they achieved something so awsome and won't stop yapping about it. Then the racial slurrs are thrown out. It's really sad and pathetic.

I always thought of the Halo series as a hit or miss for me. Sometimes I enjoy it and other times I couldn't care less about the series. Despite the cries from Halo fanboys about the story, I always felt that as a Sci-Fi series, it's just a bad copycat of everything from Starship Troopers to Aliens vs Predator. I don't mind copycats (Starcraft) as long as the story at least present interesting and compelling characters (Starcraft). Halo, in my opinion, lacks compelling characters. The only character that's worth mentioning in the whole series is the Arbiter and that's it.

On the gameplay side of things, I find it hard to complete single player without Co-op. It's a tedious venture I'd prefer not to embark on. It bores me to tears. The multiplayer was enjoy in Halo for the PC but in Halo 2...meh.

I'm more interested in how Halo 3 turns out than actually playing the game. I'm personally more excited about Quake Wars for my online shooting fix anyways.

I always thought of the Halo series as a hit or miss for me. Sometimes I enjoy it and other times I couldn't care less about the series. Despite the cries from Halo fanboys about the story, I always felt that as a Sci-Fi series, it's just a bad copycat of everything from Starship Troopers to Aliens vs Predator. I don't mind copycats (Starcraft) as long as the story at least present interesting and compelling characters (Starcraft). Halo, in my opinion, lacks compelling characters. The only character that's worth mentioning in the whole series is the Arbiter and that's it.

On the gameplay side of things, I find it hard to complete single player without Co-op. It's a tedious venture I'd prefer not to embark on. It bores me to tears. The multiplayer was enjoy in Halo for the PC but in Halo 2...meh.

I'm more interested in how Halo 3 turns out than actually playing the game. I'm personally more excited about Quake Wars for my online shooting fix anyways.

Redmoonxl2

Storywise, would you mind telling me how Halo is a bad copycat of Starship Troopers and..... Alien vs Predator? Actually, I'm not sure how the hell you came up with AvP. I can only see Alien as an inspiration, but not Predator or the AvP series.

Please don't say Halo ripped off Ringworld. The similarity begins and ends with the shape of the artificial planet. The similarity of Starship Troopers begins and ends in a war between humans and aliens; echoes of Alien can only be found in the parasitic aspect of the Flood.

And in any case, if they blatantly copied (which they didn't), at least they got the right source to copy from. Starship Troopers essentially created the whole military sci fi genre, and other stories were inspired by it. Alien was really the first of its kind in the sci fi genre.

Most writers and world creators do the bad and try copy those that have copied others. What that results in is generation loss, until you just get a whole lot of nothingness if you keep going far enough. If you want to create a vampire film, you go to Nosferatu of the 1920s, not 1998's Blade. Oh yeah, that's a reason why the Underworld movies don't seem very compelling.

A really good example is the high fantasy genre. Dungeons and Dragons is the source that every fantasy writer or game creator or film maker looks to for ideas. Yet D&D took its ideas from every other fantasy story and put them all together like an interactive encyclopedia. Does anyone not realize Tolkien's Elf is the divine, wise and fair stereotype shamelessly used in every other fantasy setting? Granted, D&D expanded races of Elves with the Drow etc, and then that was shamelessly turned into a "create-an-elf" fest for the fantasy genre everywhere, the most famous creation probably being the Night Elf. Most writers don't realize the more species you create for that Elf template, the more unoriginal and cliche it seems.

Oh, and Orcs. Don't get me started on bloody Orcs.

Originality is only a measure of how fresh you can spin universal archetypes. Let's head back to the example of Alien. It's seemingly original idea of pitting blue collar workers against a terrifying, ever-changing monster has spawned countless imitations but no equal. Yet this is what Dan O'Bannon had to say about his fundemental idea of the Alien film:

"A lot of people speculated as to where I stole it from. The truth is I stole it from everywhere."

P.S -- I didn't see your sig until just now. My Warcraft examples weren't intended specifically to tick you off.

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

I always thought of the Halo series as a hit or miss for me. Sometimes I enjoy it and other times I couldn't care less about the series. Despite the cries from Halo fanboys about the story, I always felt that as a Sci-Fi series, it's just a bad copycat of everything from Starship Troopers to Aliens vs Predator. I don't mind copycats (Starcraft) as long as the story at least present interesting and compelling characters (Starcraft). Halo, in my opinion, lacks compelling characters. The only character that's worth mentioning in the whole series is the Arbiter and that's it.

On the gameplay side of things, I find it hard to complete single player without Co-op. It's a tedious venture I'd prefer not to embark on. It bores me to tears. The multiplayer was enjoy in Halo for the PC but in Halo 2...meh.

I'm more interested in how Halo 3 turns out than actually playing the game. I'm personally more excited about Quake Wars for my online shooting fix anyways.

FrozenLiquid

Did I mention that I don't mind copycats if done well?

"I don't mind copycats as long as the story at least present interesting and compelling characters"

Oh wait, I did.

No, your not the only one who doesn't care.

Fact is there are people who don't care about every single game.

I don't care about MGS4 for example. Doesn't mean it will be a bad game.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

I always thought of the Halo series as a hit or miss for me. Sometimes I enjoy it and other times I couldn't care less about the series. Despite the cries from Halo fanboys about the story, I always felt that as a Sci-Fi series, it's just a bad copycat of everything from Starship Troopers to Aliens vs Predator. I don't mind copycats (Starcraft) as long as the story at least present interesting and compelling characters (Starcraft). Halo, in my opinion, lacks compelling characters. The only character that's worth mentioning in the whole series is the Arbiter and that's it.

On the gameplay side of things, I find it hard to complete single player without Co-op. It's a tedious venture I'd prefer not to embark on. It bores me to tears. The multiplayer was enjoy in Halo for the PC but in Halo 2...meh.

I'm more interested in how Halo 3 turns out than actually playing the game. I'm personally more excited about Quake Wars for my online shooting fix anyways.

Redmoonxl2

Did I mention that I don't mind copycats if done well?

"I don't mind copycats as long as the story at least present interesting and compelling characters"

Oh wait, I did.

Enough with the smart act and answer me this:

How is Halo not done well?

That was the first line of my long post. Funny you skipped that.

Or perhaps you'll understand if I said it in a more sarcastic tone too:

Didn't I ask how Halo is a bad copycat?

"Storywise, would you mind telling me how Halo is a bad copycat of Starship Troopers and..... "

Oh wait, I did.

I can be equally as annoying. Best not to try and outwit me ;).

Now cut thecrap and answer the damn question.

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

I always thought of the Halo series as a hit or miss for me. Sometimes I enjoy it and other times I couldn't care less about the series. Despite the cries from Halo fanboys about the story, I always felt that as a Sci-Fi series, it's just a bad copycat of everything from Starship Troopers to Aliens vs Predator. I don't mind copycats (Starcraft) as long as the story at least present interesting and compelling characters (Starcraft). Halo, in my opinion, lacks compelling characters. The only character that's worth mentioning in the whole series is the Arbiter and that's it.

On the gameplay side of things, I find it hard to complete single player without Co-op. It's a tedious venture I'd prefer not to embark on. It bores me to tears. The multiplayer was enjoy in Halo for the PC but in Halo 2...meh.

I'm more interested in how Halo 3 turns out than actually playing the game. I'm personally more excited about Quake Wars for my online shooting fix anyways.

FrozenLiquid

Did I mention that I don't mind copycats if done well?

"I don't mind copycats as long as the story at least present interesting and compelling characters"

Oh wait, I did.

Enough with the smart act and answer me this:

How is Halo not done well?

That was the first line of my long post. Funny you skipped that.

Or perhaps you'll understand if I said it in a more sarcastic tone too:

Didn't I ask how Halo is a bad copycat?

"Storywise, would you mind telling me how Halo is a bad copycat of Starship Troopers and..... "

Oh wait, I did.

I can be equally as annoying. Best not to try and outwit me ;).

Now cut thecrap and answer the damn question.

Funny how you skipped the part where I said "Halo, in my opinion, lacks compelling characters. The only character that's worth mentioning in the whole series is the Arbiter and that's it." in my initial post. It's fairly obvious that the Halo series is a spin on the galatic battle between three factions (Terran Federation, Arachnids and Skinnies from Starship Troopers and Predator, Xenomorphs and Colonial Marines from Aliens vs Predator) but it's done in a fairly standard and uninspired fashion with very little to actually make me care (AKA interesting characters) as initially stated. I guess reading along is fun, eh?

As for cutting the crap and answering your question, keep in mind that I'm not obligated to answer a single question asked by you. If you have a hardon for Halo, that's your problem but if you're going to come to me, attempt to force feed me long ass posts when the majority of your questions were answered in the first place, don't expect me to follow along.

Funny how you skipped the part where I said "Halo, in my opinion, lacks compelling characters. The only character that's worth mentioning in the whole series is the Arbiter and that's it." in my initial post. It's fairly obvious that the Halo series is a spin on the galatic battle between three factions (Terran Federation, Arachnids and Skinnies from Starship Troopers and Predator, Xenomorphs and Colonial Marines from Aliens vs Predator) but it's done in a fairly standard and uninspired fashion with very little to actually make me care (AKA interesting characters) as initially stated. I guess reading along is fun, eh?

As for cutting the crap and answering your question, keep in mind that I'm not obligated to answer a single question asked by you. If you have a hardon for Halo, that's your problem but if you're going to come to me, attempt to force feed me long ass posts when the majority of your questions were answered in the first place, don't expect me to follow along.

Redmoonxl2

I didn't skip it, I just wanted you to elaborate further. But now that you have elaborated I don't need to be left wandering in the dark. So now that that is out of the way I can further pinpoint where Halo fails. And where it fails is storytelling. Quite frankly, I don't care for the characters too. But it's a diamond in the rough. A student film with potential. Whatever analogy you want to use. Uninspired? No, I wouldn't say so. If it was uninspired --refer to my "long ass post" because you guessed right: reading along is fun indeed ;). Also, if it was uninspired, it would have been unanimouslystamped cliche from day one,

By the way the Skinnies are allied with the Bugs. They're essentially a two-species Covenant. It's not a three way war.

Yeah I totally have a hardon for Halo. So much so I want to know where and how it fails to someone who is not interested in it. People usually can't tell me, and when they try to, I can counter it. Not to say that Halo is without its faults. I usually need someone suffering from teen angstto illustrate it loud and clear where Halo fails. And I accept it if it does ring true. But make no mistake that I do know more about Halo than you (naturally, because apparently I can get it up whenever Halo is mentioned), and I know where it falls in the science fiction genre. I can even give you a link to prove how it doesn't fall into an uninspired cliche fest.

Then again I have to take your experiences with games with a grain of salt, much like you'd probably do with mine. Why?

Remember the time you told me some Lore Nazi told you off for calling hobbits halflings in LotR:O? Do you know how contradictory that looked? Not only are hobbits called halflings in Middle Earth lore, a Lore Nazi would simply have assumed you were role playing a certain race. So that either means two things:

1) This so called Lore Nazi (which everyone hates and unianimously asks to shutup) did not know what he/she was talking about

2) You were lying through your teeth, which makes you lose credibility already.

So how can I apply that to Halo? Well, the Arbiter is the most well known character apart from Master Chief. Any John Doe can say "The Arbiter is the most interesting character in the Halo series". Yeah, compared to Master Chief is a work of art. But what did he do? He failed as a Fleet Commander, was redeemed as some sacred person known as "The Arbiter", got wind of the Covenant's ulterior motive and has to join the Human force. But what about the more interesting Prophets, espcecially the Prophet of Truth? He outshines the Arbiter as an interesting character. He screws over the two other Prophets, kills those who know too much (the Heretics) and knows something the rest of the Covenant don't know. Anyone looking for a complex character in Halo would have immediately found him. But no, since Halo fans just scream Arbiter everyone jumps on the bandwagon and hopes for the best.

Sorry for ranting. Your information is highlyvaluable, but still it's a little iffy. Especially when you mademistakes with Starship Troopers and Lord of the Rings. But then again we all don't know jack about things we're not really interested in.

Oh, and by the way, as for demanding a reply: I'm sure you would think of me a coward if I didn't reply to your posts. I'm sure everyone thinks the same around here.

Oh btw don't bother replying. Gotta film shoot tomorrow. Gotta sleep.

I didn't skip it, I just wanted you to elaborate further. But now that you have elaborated I don't need to be left wandering in the dark. So now that that is out of the way I can further pinpoint where Halo fails. And where it fails is storytelling. Quite frankly, I don't care for the characters too. But it's a diamond in the rough. A student film with potential. Whatever analogy you want to use. Uninspired? No, I wouldn't say so. If it was uninspired --refer to my "long ass post" because you guessed right: reading along is fun indeed ;). Also, if it was uninspired, it would have been unanimouslystamped cliche from day one,FrozenLiquid

Whether or not it's uninspired is a matter of opinion. You referring to a "long ass post" on your thoughts is not going to change my mind so don't bother playing that game in an attempt to be witty.

Also, you'd be insane to think every gamer believes that Halo is an "original piece of work".

By the way the Skinnies are allied with the Bugs. They're essentially a two-species Covenant. It's not a three way war.FrozenLiquid

Incorrect. Skinnies are treated more as a neutral faction. This was proven when the Skinnies switched sides after Terran attacks like the one Rico participated in Chapter 1.

Yeah I totally have a hardon for Halo. So much so I want to know where and how it fails to someone who is not interested in it. People usually can't tell me, and when they try to, I can counter it. Not to say that Halo is without its faults. I usually need someone suffering from teen angstto illustrate it loud and clear where Halo fails. And I accept it if it does ring true. But make no mistake that I do know more about Halo than you (naturally, because apparently I can get it up whenever Halo is mentioned), and I know where it falls in the science fiction genre. I can even give you a link to prove how it doesn't fall into an uninspired cliche fest.FrozenLiquid

That's nice, you love Halo, I don't care.

I guess that sums up that.

By the way, I'm 24, so no teen angst here. Not my fault you couldn't apply reading comprehension.

Then again I have to take your experiences with games with a grain of salt, much like you'd probably do with mine. Why?

Remember the time you told me some Lore Nazi told you off for calling hobbits halflings in LotR:O? Do you know how contradictory that looked? Not only are hobbits called halflings in Middle Earth lore, a Lore Nazi would simply have assumed you were role playing a certain race. So that either means two things:

1) This so called Lore Nazi (which everyone hates and unianimously asks to shutup) did not know what he/she was talking about

2) You were lying through your teeth, which makes you lose credibility already.FrozenLiquid

Actually I called the LOTRO community lore nazis first. Only you got uppity by an example that was meant to illustrate a point, not to be the main point.

Nice to know you remember that event. Pity you can't remember the point I was trying make back then, much like how you couldn't even figure out the point I was trying to make now.

Sorry for ranting. Your information is highlyvaluable, but still it's a little iffy. Especially when you mademistakes with Starship Troopers and Lord of the Rings. But then again we all don't know jack about things we're not really interested in.FrozenLiquid

So my info shouldn't be taken seriously because of one mistake? I guess I should ignore you considering that you screwed up the Skinnies/Arachnids alliance, eh?

Oh, and by the way, as for demanding a reply: I'm sure you would think of me a coward if I didn't reply to your posts. I'm sure everyone thinks the same around here.FrozenLiquid

Actually I wouldn't have cared. Thanks for generalizing.

Besides, what would you care if I thought you were a coward? Not like this is going to cross over to the real world, where things actually matter.