Am I the only person who liked Oblivion more than Morrowind?

Well am I?

I just found Oblivion's core gameplay deeper and more fun than Morrowind. :(

You're most likely not the only one, but you sure are the first one I ever heard liking Oblivion more than Morrowind. It's ok tho, having bad tastes isn't a crime :P

I liked Oblivion more. :) I played it for over 450ishhours worth before I sold it, and it was the Xbox version too.

probably, along with a very few people. morrowind was 100 times better than oblivion btw.

Oblivion has less of everything that was in Morrowind, from the enchantment system to the number of skills.

Deeper is not the word I would use, not unless you think twitch combat is "deeper" than a statistical system.

You're most likely not the only one, but you sure are the first one I ever heard liking Oblivion more than Morrowind. It's ok tho, having bad tastes isn't a crime :P

Tykain

Well considering I hated Morrowind with the passion of a thousand suns, yeah, I'll agree.

Oblivion is one of my favourite games ever and easly better than Morrowind imo

Oblivion has less of everything that was in Morrowind, from the enchantment system to the number of skills.

Deeper is not the word I would use, not unless you think twitch combat is "deeper" than a statistical system.

AnnoyedDragon

I want a remade Morrowind with added features and content that was good in Oblivion. SAGE_OF_FIRE

theres some company thats making a morrowind mod for oblivion.... i dont know if its still in development but i remember reading about it not too long ago

Eh, TC didn't you already make this topic, or is this just exactly the same as the other one that was made by another TC, with a shorter OP?

I wouldn't use it for Morrowind as well. :)

g805ge

Then what about Oblivion do you consider deeper? You didn't really elaborate on that.

When I look at Oblivion all I see is a simplified, casualized, shallow game that put no effort into its main storyline.

I liked Oblivion more just because I played it more. That and it didn't give me motion sickness...

Daggerfall, Morrowind, Arena >>>> Oblivion

Oblivion is hands down the worst in the elderscrolls series. I own each one and Oblivion is the one ive had the least fun with.

[QUOTE="g805ge"]

I wouldn't use it for Morrowind as well. :)

AnnoyedDragon

Then what about Oblivion do you consider deeper? You didn't really elaborate on that.

When I look at Oblivion all I see is a simplified, casualized, shallow game that put no effort into its main storyline.

Eh, TC didn't you already make this topic, or is this just exactly the same as the other one that was made by another TC, with a shorter OP?

WasntAvailable

Daggerfall with Patches > Oblivion > Morrowind > Daggerfall without patches > Arena > Two Worlds

kozzy1234

{This post isn't meant to be taken seriously}

Too lazy to tell so but I will say this about Morrowind; 95% of the missions are Fed Ex quests. :P

g805ge

Not that I'm agreeing with you, but you think that one thing overrides all the aspects were it has more depth over Oblivion?

I cannot stand Oblivion, every time I play it I feel like my brain cells are going to sleep despite my conscious efforts to try to play the game. It just requires no thinking whatsoever; everything from finding a location, to completing a quest to dialogue choices are 99% of the time done on your behalf.

Let me get lost, let me discover a new cave on my own, let me make decisions, let me have to put effort in to achieve something. Morrowind was hardly a perfect game but at least my brain isn't turning off through lack of use while playing it.

[QUOTE="g805ge"]

Too lazy to tell so but I will say this about Morrowind; 95% of the missions are Fed Ex quests. :P

AnnoyedDragon

Not that I'm agreeing with you, but you think that one thing overrides all the aspects were it has more depth over Oblivion?

I cannot stand Oblivion, every time I play it I feel like my brain cells are going to sleep despite my conscious efforts to try to play the game. It just requires no thinking whatsoever; everything from finding a location, to completing a quest to dialogue choices are 99% of the time done on your behalf.

Let me get lost, let me discover a new cave on my own, let me make decisions, let me have to put effort in to achieve something. Morrowind was hardly a perfect game but at least my brain isn't turning off through lack of use while playing it.

If I wanted to play an RPG that I have to use my brian, I'd played Fallout.

Fallout > Morrowind

I didn't have to use brains for Morrowind to be really good at it. Yeah, I was a lot better at Morrowind than I was at Oblivion but man I enjoyed Oblivion more.

If I wanted to play an RPG that I have to use my brian, I'd played Fallout.

Fallout > Morrowind

g805ge

I'm talking more subtle, exploring an environment in Morrowind requires more active participation than a quest compass that points out every object of interest. There is of course the less subtle differences like requirements to progress in a guild in Oblivion are none existent; were as Morrowind actually required that you were at least competent in certain skills to progress. No warriors that cannot cast a single spell as arch mage.

The enchantment system in Oblivion was also pathetic, so much that I don't even have to go into detail for you to know what I mean.

In the end it comes down to preference, but I highly disagree with anyone who thinks Oblivion has more depth than Morrowind.

probably, along with a very few people.Oblivion was 100 times better than Morrowindbtw.

guitarheroF22

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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

I didn't have to use brains for Morrowind to be really good at it. Yeah, I was a lot better at Morrowind than I was at Oblivion but man I enjoyed Oblivion more.

If I wanted to play an RPG that I have to use my brian, I'd played Fallout.

Fallout > Morrowind

AnnoyedDragon

I'm talking more subtle, exploring an environment in Morrowind requires more active participation than a quest compass that points out every object of interest. There is of course the less subtle differences like requirements to progress in a guild in Oblivion are none existent; were as Morrowind actually required that you were at least competent in certain skills to progress. No warriors that cannot cast a single spell as arch mage.

The enchantment system in Oblivion was also pathetic, so much that I don't even have to go into detail for you to know what I mean.

In the end it comes down to preference, but I highly disagree with anyone who thinks Oblivion has more depth than Morrowind.

Hell, half the items in Morrowind were useless while in Oblivion almost every item had a unique use. Oblivion to me was just plain fun while Morrowind only had a unique world and atmophere for it. You can say Morrowind isn't perfect but no game from the exception of Tetris is perfect.

Let us settle this arguement in one way to ending it.

Baldur's Gate II > Oblivion and Morrowind :P

Fun? Sure, anyone can find it more fun. Deeper? :lol:

[QUOTE="guitarheroF22"]

probably, along with a very few people.Oblivion was 100 times better than Morrowindbtw.

g805ge

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Oblivion is one of my favourite games ever and easly better than Morrowind imo

PAL360

Oblivion is better than Morrowind only for people who doesn't like RPGs, or doesn't know how a REAL RPG is.

I preferred Oblivion for one main reason.

Morrowind has the journal from Morrowind. And the journal from Morrowind is the single biggest abomination in the history of RPGs. Forget the more varied environments, the extra depth, the greater dependence on RPG elements... the journal from Morrowind negates all of these things and is the reason I preferred Oblivion.

End of.

The skill system in Morrowind is unbalanced and overbearing. You're either too overpowered or too underpowered. This is something that was fixed in Oblivion and Fallout 3.

The magic and spell system in Morrowind is broken as it doesn't even work half the time. Hell, I have a friend who has played RPGs {both the board version and the video games} all his life and he hated Morrowind but thought Oblivion was decent. I'm not saying I hated Morrowind, I found it decent but the core gameplay was lacking and it was quantity over quality where Oblivion was the exact opposite.

g805ge

How was it fixed? Oblivion's system is broken in that if you set none combat skills as your mains you become underpowered because of the scaling system. Enemies level when you do, regardless of what skills caused the leveling.

I'd hardly call Oblivion balanced either, since it essentially rewards power players and punishes role players. Tried being a pure mage? You cannot enter the arena, despite a pure mage being on the poster. Your armour class it permanently stuck at 0 because the unarmored skill was cut, armours eventually get most of the unarmored perks later in the game. Your abilities as a mage are irrelvant to your ability to progress in the Mage guild, armour has more enchantment slots than clothing the list just goes on and on.

It's a very one sided system, dice roles were even removed so there is no character skill base calculations. The game plays more like an FPS than an RPG, chance is player driven; not character driven.

Hell, half the items in Morrowind were useless while in Oblivion almost every item had a unique use. Oblivion to me was just plain fun while Morrowind only had a unique world and atmophere for it. You can say Morrowind isn't perfect but no game from the exception of Tetris is perfect.

g805ge

I don't see any items that are more useful in Oblivion than Morrowind.

Let us settle this arguement in one way to ending it.

Baldur's Gate II > Oblivion and Morrowind :P

g805ge

There's nothing to settle, you have your opinions and I have mine. Mine is Morrowind was hardly a perfect game but it did allot more to my taste than Oblivion, your opinion doesn't invalidate mine and vice versa.

The combat is alot more fun in oblivion. SAGE_OF_FIRE

I want a remade Morrowind with added features and content that was good in Oblivion. SAGE_OF_FIRE

I know they both did some things right. Combine the best elements of both and it'd be an amazing game! Hope elder scrolls 5 is that game. That said I enjoyed Oblivion alittle more personally.

Nah I'm with you. I like modern RPGs with less text and more voice acting. Sure they have to give less plot and backstory, but if I wanted that I would get some friends together and play Dungeons and Dragons... the game that all of those old RPGs wanted to play like.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]The combat is alot more fun in oblivion. Juggernaut140

I hated Morrowind for the lame combat and ugly environments. Oblivion comes along, and those problems are fixed. VICTORY!

...only they took out the characters and roleplaying, and left all the bugs.

I general, I like oblivion better, especially with mods.

The thing that killed Oblivion for me was the game world.

It's tiny compared to the game world in Morrowind, and at the same time it's more empty and boring.

Morrowind had a world I wanted to explore, Oblivion has Generic Fantasy Land #2348.

The thing that killed Oblivion for me was the game world.

It's tiny compared to the game world in Morrowind, and at the same time it's more empty and boring.

Morrowind had a world I wanted to explore, Oblivion has Generic Fantasy Land #2348.

swazidoughman

Actually no. I had Morrowind on the original XBOX, and grew incredibly tired of it. It just didn't fit a casual sit down and play moment. OH know, did I just say casual? Oblivion seemed to do a much better job of fitting a quick play session. And the game is flat-out gorgeous by the way!

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

The thing that killed Oblivion for me was the game world.

It's tiny compared to the game world in Morrowind, and at the same time it's more empty and boring.

Morrowind had a world I wanted to explore, Oblivion has Generic Fantasy Land #2348.

foxhound_fox

Impossible, Oblivion MUST be smaller I SWEAR!!!

I have good memories of spending hours just doing mindless wandering in Morrowind seeing all the sights. Even on foot I seem to get places faster in Oblivion.

I liked Oblivion but I never got the chance to play Morrowind and it's too late now, I have many other games I'd rather play than a 300 hour RPG.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]The combat is alot more fun in oblivion. full_disclosure

The thing that killed Oblivion for me was the game world.

It's tiny compared to the game world in Morrowind, and at the same time it's more empty and boring.

Morrowind had a world I wanted to explore, Oblivion has Generic Fantasy Land #2348.

swazidoughman

Impossible, Oblivion MUST be smaller I SWEAR!!!

I have good memories of spending hours just doing mindless wandering in Morrowind seeing all the sights. Even on foot I seem to get places faster in Oblivion.

swazidoughman

[QUOTE="g805ge"]

How was it fixed? Oblivion's system is broken in that if you set none combat skills as your mains you become underpowered because of the scaling system. Enemies level when you do, regardless of what skills caused the leveling.

I'd hardly call Oblivion balanced either, since it essentially rewards power players and punishes role players. Tried being a pure mage? You cannot enter the arena, despite a pure mage being on the poster. Your armour class it permanently stuck at 0 because the unarmored skill was cut, armours eventually get most of the unarmored perks later in the game. Your abilities as a mage are irrelvant to your ability to progress in the Mage guild, armour has more enchantment slots than clothing the list just goes on and on.

It's a very one sided system, dice roles were even removed so there is no character skill base calculations. The game plays more like an FPS than an RPG, chance is player driven; not character driven.

[QUOTE="g805ge"]

Hell, half the items in Morrowind were useless while in Oblivion almost every item had a unique use. Oblivion to me was just plain fun while Morrowind only had a unique world and atmophere for it. You can say Morrowind isn't perfect but no game from the exception of Tetris is perfect.

AnnoyedDragon

I don't see any items that are more useful in Oblivion than Morrowind.

Let us settle this arguement in one way to ending it.

Baldur's Gate II > Oblivion and Morrowind :P

g805ge

There's nothing to settle, you have your opinions and I have mine. Mine is Morrowind was hardly a perfect game but it did allot more to my taste than Oblivion, your opinion doesn't invalidate mine and vice versa.