Amazing Offscreen Screenshots: Gran Turismo 5 vs. PGR4 vs Forza 2. (56k warning)

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Here's my copy and my personal review:

Cedmln

WEll if you don't like it, may I have it please? :) I'll give you $26 for it. Its all i have. :)

lol i wnat it too :)

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Yes FM2 is teh sux:

Arsenal325

lol at the first pic.

yeah your right.. funny how people actually try to compare forza2 with gt5 graphically

It does compare graphically, not better but its comparable.
Graphically, GT5P >>>> FM2
Realistic(I.e. Gameplay, physics,options) FM2 >>>>>>>>>>> GT5P
Overall FM2 is the better game
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FM2 franchise average is 9.2
GT franchise average is 8.85

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pgr3

Cedmln

As good as those look, they are invalid as it is NOT PGR4 and no proof they aren't from photomode and there not a sign of a single Jaggie there which PGR 3 is riddled with on the car models in both gameplay and replay.

Those GT5P aren't gameplay shots either and in PGR3, motion blur is added during gameplay in place of Anti-Aliasing.

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Yes FM2 is teh sux:

Pro_wrestler

lol at the first pic.

yeah your right.. funny how people actually try to compare forza2 with gt5 graphically

It does compare graphically, not better but its comparable.
Graphically, GT5P >>>> FM2
Realistic(I.e. Gameplay, physics,options) FM2 >>>>>>>>>>> GT5P
Overall FM2 is the better game
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FM2 franchise average is 9.2
GT franchise average is 8.85

gran turismo>> forza motorsport

gran turismo>> forza motorsport

Rikusaki

*In Austin Powers voice*
In your dreams baby.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Yes FM2 is teh sux:

Rikusaki

lol at the first pic.

yeah your right.. funny how people actually try to compare forza2 with gt5 graphically

It does compare graphically, not better but its comparable.
Graphically, GT5P >>>> FM2
Realistic(I.e. Gameplay, physics,options) FM2 >>>>>>>>>>> GT5P
Overall FM2 is the better game
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FM2 franchise average is 9.2
GT franchise average is 8.85

gran turismo>> forza motorsport

Teh PRG4/GT5: P/Crysis/Uncharted/Gears/UT3 Killer!

Check out those amazingly detailed cloth textures on the flags on the bridge, and in the characters clothing! Check out the obsesive bloom on any object that is made of metal (or anything that even happens to be slightly grey...)! And check out how all the wood is just brown, and doesn't have any grainy wood texture at all! And of course, there's that amazingly detailed bush at the bottom left hand side of the screen! I hear it has 12,000 leaves!

All your screens are owned!

Teh PRG4/GT5: P/Crysis/Uncharted/Gears/UT3 Killer!

Check out those amazingly detailed cloth textures on the flags on the bridge, and in the characters clothing! Check out the obsesive bloom on any object that is made of metal (or anything that even happens to be slightly grey...)! And check out how all the wood is just brown, and doesn't have any grainy wood texture at all! And of course, there's that amazingly detailed bush at the bottom left hand side of the screen! I hear it has 12,000 leaves!

All your screens are owned!

Falcon4AF_Ace

lol it doesnt look that good!

[QUOTE="Falcon4AF_Ace"]

Teh PRG4/GT5: P/Crysis/Uncharted/Gears/UT3 Killer!

Check out those amazingly detailed cloth textures on the flags on the bridge, and in the characters clothing! Check out the obsesive bloom on any object that is made of metal (or anything that even happens to be slightly grey...)! And check out how all the wood is just brown, and doesn't have any grainy wood texture at all! And of course, there's that amazingly detailed bush at the bottom left hand side of the screen! I hear it has 12,000 leaves!

All your screens are owned!

Rikusaki

lol it doesnt look that good!

You need to put some new batteries in you sarcasm detector

[QUOTE="Falcon4AF_Ace"]

Teh PRG4/GT5: P/Crysis/Uncharted/Gears/UT3 Killer!

Check out those amazingly detailed cloth textures on the flags on the bridge, and in the characters clothing! Check out the obsesive bloom on any object that is made of metal (or anything that even happens to be slightly grey...)! And check out how all the wood is just brown, and doesn't have any grainy wood texture at all! And of course, there's that amazingly detailed bush at the bottom left hand side of the screen! I hear it has 12,000 leaves!

All your screens are owned!

Rikusaki

lol it doesnt look that good!

:lol::lol::lol: I loled at you!!!!! :lol:

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More pictures of the interior in brighter light as to get a better look at how detailed it all is.

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Courtesy of nib95 of neogaf.

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More pictures of the interior in brighter light as to get a better look at how detailed it all is.

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Courtesy of nib95 of neogaf.

asdasd

That is an awesome comparison. :) everyone should see this! good job!

Sorry guys, no time to ridicule GT5P's lack of chat and match making there's R6V2 co-op'n to do.

Good luck.

GT5P looks nice but TC you are starting to remind me of Saolin or whatever his name is.

On a side note: PS3 owners gets this and Grid,how cool is that?

GT5P looks nice but TC you are starting to remind me of Saolin or whatever his name is.

On a side note: PS3 owners gets this and Grid,how cool is that?

sakura_Ex

lol yeah im like the saolin of gran turismo :)

Ouch, I feel bad that GT5 looks this bad :( Poor ps3 owners. This thread started out alright, event decent maybe. But with the other screenshots that have been added, went downhill EXTREMELY fast.dipper145

What? What are u talking about? How is it worse?

[QUOTE="dipper145"]Ouch, I feel bad that GT5 looks this bad :( Poor ps3 owners. This thread started out alright, event decent maybe. But with the other screenshots that have been added, went downhill EXTREMELY fast.Rikusaki

What? What are u talking about? How is it worse?

btw being compared to saolin is not a good thing lol

Whn comparing the shots of Rikusaki (GT5:P) and Pro_wrestler (FM2), I have to got with GT5:pro

Mostly because the GT car tires and wheels are acutally round. Look at Pro-wrestler's pics, the wheels and tires are made up of multiple straight sides. Based on those shots alone, GT is far better. In-game, I don't know.

This shows Gran Turismo 5's amazing car detail:

Rikusaki

Buh buh, teh jaggi3z!

there is a MUCH better thread on neogaf. comparing the same tracks, same angles, etc.Always-Honest

I love neogaf, between them and B3D...my fav. sites no doubt.

That neogaf thread is near proof that these games aren't far apart from eachother, no matter how much the fanboys wanna say different. I outta link it...

or will I still find denial in here...

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]there is a MUCH better thread on neogaf. comparing the same tracks, same angles, etc.Innovazero2000

I love neogaf, between them and B3D...my fav. sites no doubt.

That neogaf thread is near proof that these games aren't far apart from eachother, no matter how much the fanboys wanna say different. I outta link it...

or will I still find denial in here...

well, the car models have much less appearent jaggies, have more detail, and i just heard DJ shadow is on the soundtrack.. so that's a plus. And 1080P at 60fps is different from 720P at 30fps (although i think GT5 will be 720P, but that's my guess)

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]there is a MUCH better thread on neogaf. comparing the same tracks, same angles, etc.Always-Honest

I love neogaf, between them and B3D...my fav. sites no doubt.

That neogaf thread is near proof that these games aren't far apart from eachother, no matter how much the fanboys wanna say different. I outta link it...

or will I still find denial in here...

well, the car models have much less appearent jaggies, have more detail, and i just heard DJ shadow is on the soundtrack.. so that's a plus. And 1080P at 60fps is different from 720P at 30fps (although i think GT5 will be 720P, but that's my guess)

True, but to be fair GT5 is not true 1080p. It's 1280x1080p which is still no slouch, and PGR4 is pushing AA/AF.

I'm not disagreeing GT5 will end up looking better...but I honestly think it's not a huge difference like some fanboys make it out to be (and that thread is proof of it), and we still have to see what "damage" and "weather" will do as far as taking system resources. With the amount of detail it's pushing, they are going to have to sacrifice something to keep that polycount up for damage.

Did you know the weather, specfically the rain effects is calculated real time on the cars, thats cool. \

When GT5 puts all this stuff into it like it say it will, and keep the same resolution, polycount, and FPS...then I will say without a doubt ps3 is more powerful. Seriously you wanna see a system pushed this side of Crysis. New york with storm effects on, the 360 chugs at spots, but it's pushing geometry at a stupid rate, specifically at that bridge (In PGR4, that bridge alone is in the neighborhood of 1-1.5M polys a second, that is NUTS)...thats something GT5 hasn't touched yet.

and your right, I think it's going to be resolution, and possible frame rate.

You wanna see some rediculous off-screen shots? These ones were posted in a discussion about whether or not GT5: P was the new graphics king that was held last year:

EDIT: In case anybody cares, settings are 1920 x 1080, AA at 8X, Very High.

MetroidPrimePwn

What is crazy is that by this time next year we will be able to play @ higher than Very High. A patch that includes all the Ultra High settings and textures is coming probably toward the end of this year.

That Neogaf comparison was AMAZING.

I almost couldn't tel the different, but of course they are offscreen photos, but thats ok.

You can see that GT5 P has less jaggies and a soft look on the cars and have more detail.

The environments are very hard to tell since neither one looks exactly the same and both have different times of day light, but it is evident that GT5 P has the clean look while PGR 4 has more of a used road texturization (hope you know what i mean).

But GT5 has the upperhand in graphics.

Never got tired? :D

GT 5 video: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32152.html

PGR 4 video review: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25840.html

That's what I call "comparison", not again all this bullshots, off screen tiny pictures and other stuff

That Neogaf comparison was AMAZING.

I almost couldn't tel the different, but of course they are offscreen photos, but thats ok.

You can see that GT5 P has less jaggies and a soft look on the cars and have more detail.

The environments are very hard to tell since neither one looks exactly the same and both have different times of day light, but it is evident that GT5 P has the clean look while PGR 4 has more of a used road texturization (hope you know what i mean).

But GT5 has the upperhand in graphics.

Cedmln

Agreed.

I hope it clears a few misconceptions on both games. Because that was the best comparision i've seen.

I hope it clears that

A. The cars in PGR4 are pretty damn decent themselves

B. Both games environments are very similar, GT5's don't suck like some make it out. (GT5's city is certaintly impressive, very compariable)

C. Both games are very comparible, but as of now, specifically in the car detail...GT5 has the upper hand. (Fact is fact, GT5's car just has more geometry to them, 120k vs 200k)

Like I said, it'll be interesting to see how this game holds if they add real damage and weather effects...both of which can take considerable system resources. PGR4's damage is nothing special, but it is damage, and damage takes a decent amount more polys to render. PGR4's weather however is rendered on the fly (specifically the car effects like rain/snow) by the CPU, and is prob. the best weather system i've seen.

The environments are very hard to tell since neither one looks exactly the same and both have different times of day light, but it is evident that GT5 P has the clean look while PGR 4 has more of a used road texturization (hope you know what i mean).Cedmln

Hard for you, easy for me. GT 5 building - all details painted on textures, even in PGR3 everything was 3D

Forza 2 overall >>>>>>> any racing game

[QUOTE="Cedmln"] The environments are very hard to tell since neither one looks exactly the same and both have different times of day light, but it is evident that GT5 P has the clean look while PGR 4 has more of a used road texturization (hope you know what i mean).goddamn_

Hard for you, easy for me. GT 5 building - all details painted on textures, even in PGR3 everything was 3D

GT5's isn't painted on at all, I would say PGR invests more geometry on them, but then I'd say the lighting overall is more impressive in GT5. It's give and take, both have advantages.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

This shows Gran Turismo 5's amazing car detail:

GnR-SLaSh

Buh buh, teh jaggi3z!

lol it isnt that bad!

Very photorealistic. Most photorealistic game ever made.