Amazon offering Refunds For Players Dissatisfied With Mass Effect 3 Ending

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#101 ChikaraShref
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[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

:lol: this is getting ridiculous. Yes the ending was terrible but to send the whole game back because you weren't satisfied with the ending just seems so ridiculous.

crimsonman1245

Not to justify the self-entitled ragers, but the entire game is a big step back from ME2, its not just the fact that the ending was bad.

big deal. did people get refunds after watching a movie in a theatre they thought wasn't as good as the prevous one(s)? nope...
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#102 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Wait...I thought when people get riled up about stuff like this in DLC the defacto argument is "VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET!" Isn't that what these guys are doing now?

Slow_Show

Not really. In a roundabout way, sure, it means Amazon might not reorder as many new copies as they otherwise might've, but for the most part it's just Amazon making a few extra bucks from restocking fees. And like Cherokee said, it's like demanding a refund because you thought the movie/show/concert/whatever sucked.

There's a difference between someone being dissapointed by something and buying something because of misleading marketting. Not that I'm condoning the asinine lawsuit. If people want to return the game though, so what?

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#103 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

lol at all the ME3 ending hoopla.

I've followed all of it day one, but I don't post about it...it's just hilarious. :P

FTC filing about ME3s ending, Charity events raised by ME3's bad ending, Bioware thinking about making a new ending...and you can return the game if you don't like the ending. LOL.

UnknownSniper65

to be fair the ending was pretty bad :P

I'm sure it is...the situation is just comical as it's so blown out of proportion. :P

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#104 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

lol at all the ME3 ending hoopla.

I've followed all of it day one, but I don't post about it...it's just hilarious. :P

FTC filing about ME3s ending, Charity events raised by ME3's bad ending, Bioware thinking about making a new ending...and you can return the game if you don't like the ending. LOL.

UnknownSniper65

to be fair the ending was pretty bad :P

I'm sure it is...the situation is just comical as it's so blown out of proportion. :P

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#105 danish-death
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[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="IAmNot_fun"]I found the rest of the game so good to just refund because of the ending. Besides, it isn't even the worst video game ending of all time. Not even this gen.IAmNot_fun
Maybe it's just my lack of experience with other (good) games that suffered from a terrible ending/end-chapter, but considering how much this ending really affects the game(s), the scale of the game and the fact that BW aren't exactly new in the business I'd say it's pretty bad. I honestly see no reason for me to replay the series again (for reasons I won't state in this thread :) )

Oh no, I do think the ending is horrible. And I think the situation is worse seeing how ME as a series just was built around for that moment in ME3 is ending while the actual thing just fell apart. But I really enjoyed the rest of the games so much. I'm actually doing another career right back from ME1. Also started a new career in ME2. And I have imported my second career to ME3 already. And I regularly play multiplayer as well.

I feel torn about ME3. The last chapter was horrible, but up until that point it was overall better than the previous games. Still, I cannot be bothered to replay them all knowing what it will all end with.

It's amazing to see how easily you can ruin a trilogy.

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#106 coasterguy65
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Seriously the rest of the game is good. Sure the ending sucks, but no reason to expect to get a refund. An update with a good ending sure, but a refund...no.

Amazon is always good for customer service. So it doesn't surprise me that they would give a refund. They'll just turn around and send the game off to their used vendor anyway.

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#107 ispeakfact
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I've never done this before, but now...

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#108 Bread_or_Decide
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Halo 2's ending was worse and Halo 3's ending was just as lame. Why is ME3 being singled out?
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#109 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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I personally never liked anything about the mass effect series, but how bad can an ending be?

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#110 foxhound_fox
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Nice. Put EAware in their place.
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#111 foxhound_fox
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[...] but how bad can an ending be?da_illest101
Considering just about every Mass Effect fanboy on this board have expressed extreme disappointment with it, despite loving everything up to the last 10 minutes. It is just that bad . I spoiled it for myself, and couldn't stop laughing. It was just so sad where the series started and has now ended up.
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#112 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Yes, that's quite apparent, the entitlement people have today is just so inspiring.

SolidTy
Yes peoples reactions over the smallest things and what they feel they deserve can be ridiculous, you have only to look at some people's reactions on this board to scores, sales and even voting. Its a bit different though when people have forked out $100's and 100's of hours and been promised various things.
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#113 CDUB316
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my opinion on the ending was "eh...i got 31 enjoyable hours out of ME3, 10 mins sure as hell won't take anything away from that"

mass effect to me was about the journey and just intereacting with the world and your crew...and overall i have done that for well over 100 hours and i've enjoyed every bit of it...like i said, 10 mins at the end is'nt going to sour my experince with this great trilogy

SPOILERS!!!

also...Deus Ex HR is another game with a crappy ending...it's just 4 video clips of jensen talking (although the things he said were pretty impactful IMO) but that didn't ruin my experince with the game at all and HR is one of my favorite games this gen

i remember the outcry for the FFX ending because Tidus didn't end up with the girl and live a happyily ever after life...the ending was amaizng and completely what needed to happen...Square had BALLS to do that and then fans had to whine, piss and moan about it and then we got the abomination that is FFX-2 and completely null and voids FFX's ending....thanks whiners, great job

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#114 racing1750
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Not Amazons fault the games ending was crap...

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#115 Chrome-
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Lmao I havent played ME3 yet but is it really this bad?
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#116 UnknownSniper65
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Lmao I havent played ME3 yet but is it really this bad?Chrome-

The ending is incredibly disappointing...the rest of the game isn't. The ending just seems so tacked on and ridiculous that it ruins the end of the experience.

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#119 percech
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Lol. I actually got my refund! Sweet.
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#120 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

This seems to be getting way too out of hand. Alot of games have bad endings, get over it.

AncientDozer

Short answer? No.

Long answer? Why should people roll over and die. That's how we end up with mediocrity.

Mediocrity? Most things in life can or using WILL end up in medicority. Acting like little **** because something didn't go there way is probably the saddest thing ive ever seen. I can only imagine how these peopel will deal with life when **** doesn't go well for them.

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#122 HoolaHoopMan
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[QUOTE="da_illest101"][...] but how bad can an ending be?foxhound_fox
Considering just about every Mass Effect fanboy on this board have expressed extreme disappointment with it, despite loving everything up to the last 10 minutes. It is just that bad . I spoiled it for myself, and couldn't stop laughing. It was just so sad where the series started and has now ended up.

Indeed. I've supported and defended ME despite some cheesy dialogue and campiness that comes with the genre. The ending was pretty damn bad, a shame considering I was having a blast up until then.
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#123 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]

Short answer? No.

Long answer? Why should people roll over and die. That's how we end up with mediocrity.

AncientDozer

Mediocrity? Most things in life can or using WILL end up in medicority. Acting like little **** because something didn't go there way is probably the saddest thing ive ever seen. I can only imagine how these peopel will deal with life when **** doesn't go well for them.

Calling them whiny little. . whatever explitive you used. . is somehow better? I mean, it couldn't possibly be that some of them are simply passionate for what they happen to be fans of?

That's another problem here is the sweeping generalizations, contempt, and pretentious attitudes that seem to be carried.

How about I assume you simply like giving up or never really invest any time, thought, or emotion into anything. Maybe you half-arse. Maybe you settle for whatever comes down the pipe. Do others have to? I don't think so, not if the other party is ready and willing.

Amazon is willing, it seems, so all right then. EA and Bioware have accepted terms so why fuss? Do you just want to sit there and be all 'disgusted' and 'elitist'?

When life doesn't give them what they want, maybe they'll do something about it instead of sobbing in a cubicle, who knows. Life is full of mystery and wonder. Some people take it by the balls, other people are more subtle. And others simply lay down and die like sickly animals waiting to be culled by wolves or whatever.

As a business and a company they are now viewed as pushovers. Im talking about Bioware. Instead of sticking to there guns with that terrible ending they are basically giving in because people truly can't accept the sh!tty ending that was ME3. It will make me laugh tho when it will be announced as PAID dlc :lol:

Sidenote, The way your talking makes it sound like your young, so Ill just say this: stuff like a video games aren't worth fighting and crying for. Not to this level. It's scary what people consider what is "worth fighting for".

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#124 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

Mediocrity? Most things in life can or using WILL end up in medicority. Acting like little **** because something didn't go there way is probably the saddest thing ive ever seen. I can only imagine how these peopel will deal with life when **** doesn't go well for them.

eboyishere

Calling them whiny little. . whatever explitive you used. . is somehow better? I mean, it couldn't possibly be that some of them are simply passionate for what they happen to be fans of?

That's another problem here is the sweeping generalizations, contempt, and pretentious attitudes that seem to be carried.

How about I assume you simply like giving up or never really invest any time, thought, or emotion into anything. Maybe you half-arse. Maybe you settle for whatever comes down the pipe. Do others have to? I don't think so, not if the other party is ready and willing.

Amazon is willing, it seems, so all right then. EA and Bioware have accepted terms so why fuss? Do you just want to sit there and be all 'disgusted' and 'elitist'?

When life doesn't give them what they want, maybe they'll do something about it instead of sobbing in a cubicle, who knows. Life is full of mystery and wonder. Some people take it by the balls, other people are more subtle. And others simply lay down and die like sickly animals waiting to be culled by wolves or whatever.

As a business and a company they are now viewed as pushovers. Im talking about Bioware. Instead of sticking to there guns with that terrible ending they are basically giving in because people truly can't accept the sh!tty ending that was ME3. It will make me laugh tho when it will be announced as PAID dlc :lol:

Sidenote, The way your talking makes it sound like your young, so Ill just say this: stuff like a video games aren't worth fighting and crying for. Not to this level. It's scary what people consider what is "worth fighting for".

Anything you care about is worth fighting for (family, friends, career, hobbies), and i'm most definitely not young. People who sit around and take dissapointment and shrug it off annoy me as apathy gets you nowhere.

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#125 SaudiFury
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In a way this fan protest is a testament to the quality of the Mass Effect universe and its story, background and characters. To see fans riled up over a bad ending (which is common in the videogame industry) just shows how emotionally invested in the complex universe and how much the fans care about the Mass Effect universe that they want to see it done justice to in a form of an excellent ending.

Think of it like how people got emotionally invested in Star Wars, and was outraged with the treatment that Lucas gave to the series by making Phantom Menace.

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exactly what this guy said. exactly.
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#126 elbert_b_23
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gamers are starting to get to spoiled they have to realize that the world doesn't revolve around them and just because you didn't like a part of something you can't return it to get your money back
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#127 Snugenz
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gamers are starting to get to spoiled they have to realize that the world doesn't revolve around them and just because you didn't like a part of something you can't return it to get your money backelbert_b_23

The games industry does in fact revolve around gamers...

Hint: If they don't buy games, why make them?

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#128 elbert_b_23
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[QUOTE="elbert_b_23"]gamers are starting to get to spoiled they have to realize that the world doesn't revolve around them and just because you didn't like a part of something you can't return it to get your money backSnugenz

The games industry does in fact revolve around gamers...

Hint: If they don't buy games, why make them?

true but so could be said with any industry and yet every other one doesn't have as many whiny buyers as much as video games
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This is just pathetic. The ending isn't that bad, honestly the only thing it lacked was a bit of explanation afterwards of what happened to the galaxy, but over all it was fine. People keep complaining about how the choices dont have much effect on the end are thinking about the whole picture.

May Contain Spoilers:

The whole game of Mass Effect 3 is the ending. Your choices burn alliances or build alliances, save some people or kill some people. The ending is purely getting rid of the reapers that cannot be fought by traditinal means. Look at all the effort that it takes just to take down 1 reaper, now do that for hundreds and hundreds of reapers. Yes the Mass Relays get destroyed, but think, your choices effect the fate of the Krogan, space travel or not doesn't matter, the fact that after the reapers are gone they can either die out or be able to repopulate based on your choices. All these choices do matter, Bioware just isn't guiding you in the last cutscene, it's what our imaginations are for. My shepherd cured the genophage, so that means I saved the Krogan Race and know that they will prosper. I saved earth so Humans will still prosper and so on.

Sure it wasn't the worlds greatest ending, but I don't remember people trying to Return Halo 2 or raise petitions or whatever because of it's awful cliffhanger ending.

Also look at all the community talk about the ending (the good not negative) People coming up with Indoctration Theories and debating it, people coming up with there own ideas on the ending. I think thats what Bioware wanted, but the rabies rabid fanbase got their underwear all twisted up instead.

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#130 glimpus
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Wow. Mass Effect fans suck.

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#131 JasonDarksavior
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This is pretty shameful. The guy played the game and finished it and gets a refund ... Man, all the traditional ME aspects are in the game, it's just the ending that roused all this attention. It wasn't even that bad anyway.
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#132 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

:lol: this is getting ridiculous. Yes the ending was terrible but to send the whole game back because you weren't satisfied with the ending just seems so ridiculous.

ChikaraShref

Not to justify the self-entitled ragers, but the entire game is a big step back from ME2, its not just the fact that the ending was bad.

big deal. did people get refunds after watching a movie in a theatre they thought wasn't as good as the prevous one(s)? nope...

investment of buying a movie ticket is what? 10 or 15 dollars. the loss of time? roughly 2 hours. games it's 60-80 dollars (for ME3 alone) if you count all three games and say you bought them new = 60+60+60= 180 dollars loss of time (for wasting your time if you consider the ending nullified the experience) roughly 30 hours or 100+ hours. big big difference. if you bother to sit down and think about, you might be a little more sympathetic as to why some people may be royally pissed off. especially, when this game is the exception and trumpets choice and affecting the game. promising 16 different endings which are in the end 95% the same thing minus plus a few minor differences. Then ends with no closure to the characters you've come to know and love. just cue credits and off you go.
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#133 ForsakenWicked
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Watch this theory video on ME3's ending. My opinion of the ending changed drastically after watching this:

Spoilers, obviously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck&feature=g-like&context=G24cdb23ALT2j2ewABAA

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Very interesting. It's a good theory for the ending.
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#134 Pug-Nasty
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:lol: this is getting ridiculous. Yes the ending was terrible but to send the whole game back because you weren't satisfied with the ending just seems so ridiculous.

HaloPimp978
It's a story-based game that has bad gameplay. If it also has a bad story, then it is just a bad game. People return bad products all the time.
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#135 BIOKILLER123
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Lol.

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#136 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]Calling them whiny little. . whatever explitive you used. . is somehow better? I mean, it couldn't possibly be that some of them are simply passionate for what they happen to be fans of?

That's another problem here is the sweeping generalizations, contempt, and pretentious attitudes that seem to be carried.

How about I assume you simply like giving up or never really invest any time, thought, or emotion into anything. Maybe you half-arse. Maybe you settle for whatever comes down the pipe. Do others have to? I don't think so, not if the other party is ready and willing.

Amazon is willing, it seems, so all right then. EA and Bioware have accepted terms so why fuss? Do you just want to sit there and be all 'disgusted' and 'elitist'?

When life doesn't give them what they want, maybe they'll do something about it instead of sobbing in a cubicle, who knows. Life is full of mystery and wonder. Some people take it by the balls, other people are more subtle. And others simply lay down and die like sickly animals waiting to be culled by wolves or whatever.

Snugenz

As a business and a company they are now viewed as pushovers. Im talking about Bioware. Instead of sticking to there guns with that terrible ending they are basically giving in because people truly can't accept the sh!tty ending that was ME3. It will make me laugh tho when it will be announced as PAID dlc :lol:

Sidenote, The way your talking makes it sound like your young, so Ill just say this: stuff like a video games aren't worth fighting and crying for. Not to this level. It's scary what people consider what is "worth fighting for".

Anything you care about is worth fighting for (family, friends, career, hobbies), and i'm most definitely not young. People who sit around and take dissapointment and shrug it off annoy me as apathy gets you nowhere.

I might have been a little harsh, even on Dozer, which i didn't mean too

but this, a video game ending, isn't something that is worth fighting for to the point of calling the FTC.

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#137 DaisyFan007
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Sooo ME3 its like the most hated ending of all time? i could see worst.

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#138 N30F3N1X
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Lmao.

BioWare really painted a target on themselves and screamed "PLEASE NUKE US" with all the ME3 controversies :lol:

Too bad I haven't had the time to play ME3 yet.

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#139 xhawk27
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Do you demand movie studios to change the endings of their movies if you don't like them? ;)

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#140 SaudiFury
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Do you demand movie studios to change the endings of their movies if you don't like them? ;)

xhawk27
loss of 2 hours and 10-20 bucks vs loss of 35-100+ hours and 60-180 dollars. not to mention one that is supposed to be one where you choose your own path and not simply sitting there passively the entire time (and shooting **** is not what i meant by interactivity, were talkin' narrative here). you tell me...
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#141 Snugenz
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Do you demand movie studios to change the endings of their movies if you don't like them? ;)

xhawk27

Considering how you have absolutely no influence on how the story unfolds when watching a movie i don't see how they're comparable.

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#142 Inconsistancy
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Do you demand movie studios to change the endings of their movies if you don't like them? ;)

xhawk27

People also don't tend to lie about the content of a movie pre-release, and movies have no real interaction with the viewer. ME was a game of choices that were promised to mean something, but really boiled down to meaning nothing...

I still say this would be made a lot easier if they'd just support modding and didn't make promises that they couldn't keep.

And I don't mean to 'tinfoilhat' this, but it does almost seem like it was done on purpose to try to coax more money out of 'us', I mean.. Jevik wasn't a throw away character like that muscle head was(can't even remember his name), and they put him out as a cash grab.