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Poll Amazon to buy Xbox from MS?[Rumour]. Would this be good or bad? (75 votes)

Bad, Microsoft are doing a fine job as they are. Great system with great games. 29%
Good, Xbox needs fresh management and focus to steer the ship from the rocks. 71%

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#51  Edited By MFDOOM1983
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@whiskeystrike said:

Amazon consistently has digital sales that rival and at times surpass Steam.

I'd have no problem with them at the head of a console.

But there's no reason to have "good" sales if you're the only person selling digital content.

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#52 I_can_haz
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This would be great news if true. Amazon is a much better company than MS IMO. I'd be willing to buy a console from them if they included Amazon Prime with the whole package. You know they'd have lots of sweet sales and deals. Famousmortimer is a very credible insider just like Cboat, I hope he's right on this one. The lem meltdowns would be glorious if true lol

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#53 PraetorianMan
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If Amazon were in charge of Xbox I *might* consider buying one, depending on what direction they try taking it.

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#54 jsmoke03
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depends if amazon will stop sony products from selling on their store.

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#55 NobleCow
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This is just proof that Microsoft can't commit to anything that's not an instant success, which is why the gaming industry would be better without them.

The PS3 was a major flop for the first few years, but SONY didn't try to dink their fans by canning the PS3 and releasing the PS4 2-3 years later. They stuck with the PS3, improved the SDK, started releasing the best exclusives on consoles and even evened out in sales with their closest competitor.

For most of the PS1 to the PS3 generation, console makers took a loss on profit in order to built marketshare. Profits would pursue after 3-5 years after the hardware was released. This was beneficial to the consumers, console manufacturer and 3rd party devs. Consumers were able to get any console they liked at a price below the total sum of its parts. Console manufacturers would be able to build up marketshare and make their bread and butter through royalties. 3rd party devs would have a wider audience by releasing games on those consoles.

I don't deny that SONY likes money, but they also care about their fans, which Microsoft doesn't. You wanna know why the 360's exclusive lineup was trash? Because Microsoft was making a killing with the 360 and they saw no need to invest their money in games. If you take a look back at the PS1 and PS2 days, SONY never slacked when it came to exclusive 1st party line-up despite making billions every year and having the largest marketshare. My point: SONY is greedy, but they're consumer friendly. Microsoft isn't.

What Microsoft wants is to be able to sell us weaksauce parts for a huge profit margin on day 1 and then charge us $120/year for Xbox LIVE Gold. They also only want to have Halo, Gears and Forza as their 1st party exclusives and never have to invest in new IPs. They are a cancer on the gaming industry and they should leave.

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#56  Edited By edidili
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The guy was full of crap. He made this up. I guess this is a way now to be an internet celebrity.

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#57  Edited By edidili
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@noblecow said:

This is just proof that Microsoft can't commit to anything that's not an instant success,

Maybe in other fields but when it came to xbox they were the company that spent billions for several years just to play the long game. They only started making money the later half of 360 and especially the original xbox was a huge money sink. If after 12 years the division still doesn't make money I wouldn't blame them.

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#58  Edited By IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@misterpmedia said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

First, Microsoft is only one who makes right now profit from Xbox. Why would they sell this?

Second, if people want to get off MS then this means 2 things:

1. ps5 costs 1000 dollars

2. if ms is gone then Apple joins console war, kills Sony and then people will cry.

Microsoft gave online gaming. You all should be thankful for that!!! Lets take PS plus, store, trophies, online gaming matchmaking, stats, ranks and all off, lets see how happy you all would be then. Microsoft gave all this. Only stupid people say that MS should leave.

It doesn't mean any of those things lol. At least be realistic. As for the bold, have you seen how that 'profit' stacks up with the rest of the profit they get from other more successful divisions?

It's also important to note Microsoft hasn't made any money on the Xbox brand. In fact, they've lost over a billion dollars on the original Xbox and the Xbox 360.

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#59  Edited By ccagracing
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Obviously this is made up but lets for a second believe it was true. What would Amazon gain from buying the Xbox brand, all the tablets they have are incompatible due to android os. They risk major publishers like Sony pulling away from them as they would now be a competitor. In reality Amazon are a retailer looking to spread into the digital market and offer online services like music, video, books and gaming on platforms they build based on existing patents and ip's other own, ie android forked. why would they increase their cost and overheads by having to develop there own games, deal with publishers or publish themselves, again at further cost, marketing costs etc.. more likely that they strike a partnership with Microsoft to offer a service on Xbox and surface products.

Another question would be, would Amazon buy Sony for $1 and take on the debt to get their hands on Sonys entertainment music and video back catalogue to complement the lovefilm service they run in uk and prime video in USA. Food for thought.

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#60 Dire_Weasel
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Probably just a crazy rumor if true, but that would be really, really good news. Microsoft has run their console business in a decidedly anti-consumer, pro-advertiser fashion.

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#61 killatwill15
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guys Mortimer has a dodgy track record,

in fact im not sure he got anything right in the past of gaf.

I think this whole thing is an insider troll,

telling him bullshit so he thinks he leaks it,

and I believe it all stems from double helix games being bought,

"double helix owned by amazon,

amazon is gonna buy xbox because killer instinct is exclusive"

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#62 Bishop1310
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@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

No chance, Microsoft wouldn't put so much effort into advertising and releasing Xbone One if they are going to offload the brand a month after launch. They may sell it off at the end of the gen, depending on how the console gaming market looks at that point, but for now nope.

What you're saying makes no sense... if microsoft didn't put the effort into the xbox brand then the value of the brand would go to shit and they'd have no hope in selling it... You don't just stop all business in a department even if you are thinking about selling it. Investors have been on microsofts ass for a long time now.. I predict it gets sold in the next 2 years.

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#63 cainetao11
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@TheEroica: totally agree. The pluses could be amazing. If its got great potential, do it.

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#64  Edited By PurpleMan5000
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The only thing that I don't like about this is that it seems sort of likely that Amazon would stop selling non-xbox video games.

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#65 PurpleMan5000
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@I_can_haz said:

This would be great news if true. Amazon is a much better company than MS IMO. I'd be willing to buy a console from them if they included Amazon Prime with the whole package. You know they'd have lots of sweet sales and deals. Famousmortimer is a very credible insider just like Cboat, I hope he's right on this one. The lem meltdowns would be glorious if true lol

Why would lems melt down? Their Xbox Ones would be a whole lot better under a consumer friendly company like Amazon than they are under Microsoft.

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#66  Edited By Jacobistheman
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I feel like this is the most plausible company to buy Xbox and Bing if Microsoft decides they want to sell it off (since they are all already in Seattle and Amazon is trying to move more into the consumer electronics industry). The thing is that they won't. Even if Microsoft wanted to sell, Amazon doesn't make any money, and only has 12 billion in cash.

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#67 I_can_haz
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

@I_can_haz said:

This would be great news if true. Amazon is a much better company than MS IMO. I'd be willing to buy a console from them if they included Amazon Prime with the whole package. You know they'd have lots of sweet sales and deals. Famousmortimer is a very credible insider just like Cboat, I hope he's right on this one. The lem meltdowns would be glorious if true lol

Why would lems melt down? Their Xbox Ones would be a whole lot better under a consumer friendly company like Amazon than they are under Microsoft.

A lot of lems like being abused by M$. They wouldn't see a better company like Amazon running things as good news.

Dat Stockholm Syndrome lol.

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#68 tormentos
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Lol famousmortimor. Cboat is debunked and gone and Thuway is a mental case.

Anyway to entertain the topic: I would feel like someone handed me back my hot girlfriend after spending the night with her. My Xbox just wouldn't be the same anymore. But I could grow to love again.

lol...

Cboat confirmed the 720p galore of the xbox one before launch,and before Ghost and BF4 were confirm to be 720p.lol

And he still is making hits predictions.

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#69  Edited By killatwill15
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@tormentos said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Lol famousmortimor. Cboat is debunked and gone and Thuway is a mental case.

Anyway to entertain the topic: I would feel like someone handed me back my hot girlfriend after spending the night with her. My Xbox just wouldn't be the same anymore. But I could grow to love again.

lol...

Cboat confirmed the 720p galore of the xbox one before launch,and before Ghost and BF4 were confirm to be 720p.lol

And he still is making hits predictions.

and he broke the news in 2005 about the xbox 360 having a removable hard drive

"why would Microsoft do that? they gave everyone a harddrive with the original xbox"

how wrong those naysayers,

and this years e3 he was only wrong about prince of Persia,

but apparently ubisoft pulled it.

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#70  Edited By blackace
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That will never happen. There would be a better chance of Apple & Microsoft merging. If that ever happens, the ball game is over. Japan loves APPLE products. If Microsoft worked with APPLE and made a game console with the APPLE name on it.. oh boy.

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#71 killatwill15
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@blackace said:

That will never happen. There would be a better chance of Apple & Microsoft merging. If that ever happens, the ball game is over. Japan loves APPLE products. If Microsoft worked with APPLE and made a game console with the APPLE name on it.. oh boy.

are you a SHILL

to much emphasis on brand names SHILL,

**** APPLE,

ORANGES BRO

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#72 R3FURBISHED
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@misterpmedia Unless they are known people have to stop posting random Twitter accounts....who is this guy anyways?

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#73 k2theswiss
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wouldn't mind it but i don't think its true.

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#74  Edited By blackace
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@IMAHAPYHIPPO said:

@misterpmedia said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

First, Microsoft is only one who makes right now profit from Xbox. Why would they sell this?

Second, if people want to get off MS then this means 2 things:

1. ps5 costs 1000 dollars

2. if ms is gone then Apple joins console war, kills Sony and then people will cry.

Microsoft gave online gaming. You all should be thankful for that!!! Lets take PS plus, store, trophies, online gaming matchmaking, stats, ranks and all off, lets see how happy you all would be then. Microsoft gave all this. Only stupid people say that MS should leave.

It doesn't mean any of those things lol. At least be realistic. As for the bold, have you seen how that 'profit' stacks up with the rest of the profit they get from other more successful divisions?

It's also important to note Microsoft hasn't made any money on the Xbox brand. In fact, they've lost over a billion dollars on the original Xbox and the Xbox 360.

They lost $5 billion with the original XBox, but have made most of that money back with the XBox 360 and XBox Live. The 360 has been profitting for over 5 years now. Sony lost like $8 billion with the PS3, which completely nullified any profits they made with the PS1 and PS2. They are also still in the RED. They just lost another $1.1 billion in 2013. Sony is hurting way more then Microsoft, which is why The XBox One has a better chance of sticking around a lot longer. Both the PS4 and XB1 set record launch sales. There current sales are ahead of every previous launched game console that has every been released. I don't think either is going anywhere anytime soon.

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@killatwill15 said:

@blackace said:

That will never happen. There would be a better chance of Apple & Microsoft merging. If that ever happens, the ball game is over. Japan loves APPLE products. If Microsoft worked with APPLE and made a game console with the APPLE name on it.. oh boy.

are you a SHILL

to much emphasis on brand names SHILL,

**** APPLE,

ORANGES BRO

Why because APPLE is more successful then Sony? Brand name is a big thing for a lot of consumers. Apple selling over 50 million IPhones in a year is no fluke. lol!!

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#75 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@blackace: They have been profiting on the 360, but they also lost another billion dollars with the red ring of death debacle. The reason so many people inside Microsoft want to sell the Xbox brand is because it's been over a decade, and Microsoft still hasn't made a single cent on their video gaming division.

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#76  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Lmao lens still buttmad hours later. They're really feeling the heat of the consequences of the xbone's failure.

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#77 Cranler
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@whiskeystrike said:

Amazon consistently has digital sales that rival and at times surpass Steam.

I'd have no problem with them at the head of a console.

Yeah but digital console games have no direct competition. On pc you got steam, amazon, gog, Gamfly among others. On xbox theres only one place to buy digital games.

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#78  Edited By Tlgersuperman
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This is stupid. Amazon does not even have the cash. Amazons rumored consoles is even running on the same cheap unmodified android os most new consoles this gen are running on.

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#79 edwardecl
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Amazon would be stupid fuckers to buy the Xbox brand. I mean what would you be buying... off the shelf hardware... the Kinect... their first party devs. You'd be better off doing it yourself and buying some better devs.

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#80 Shielder7
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Bad for me if Amazon stopped selling PlayStation games

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#81 Shielder7
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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Microsoft gave online gaming. You all should be thankful for that!!! Lets take PS plus, store, trophies, online gaming matchmaking, stats, ranks and all off, lets see how happy you all would be then. Microsoft gave all this. Only stupid people say that MS should leave.

No they didn't the only thing MS did was some how convince everyone to pay for online gaming even tho it was free everywhere else.

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#82 NobleCow
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@edwardecl said:

Amazon would be stupid fuckers to buy the Xbox brand. I mean what would you be buying... off the shelf hardware... the Kinect... their first party devs. You'd be better off doing it yourself and buying some better devs.

They don't have to buy the whole package, nor does Microsoft need to sell the entire division to one buyer.

Amazon could just buy the name/branding for probably $1 million since the Xbox brand is pretty much dead. They can sell the kinect to other tech companies and sell Halo to SONY so that Naughty Dog can make a proper Halo game, since MS has no good 1st party studio.

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I was actually thinking that Google would buy Xbox from MS, but Amazon could happen too.

However, Google could counter buy offering to buy Playstation from Sony.

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#84 NobleCow
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@Netherscourge said:

I was actually thinking that Google would buy Xbox from MS, but Amazon could happen too.

However, Google could counter buy offering to buy Playstation from Sony.

PlayStation branding is pretty much back to where it was during the PS1 and PS2 days. The LTD sales number will be at 120-150 mill AND it'll have the $50/year PS Plus fee. SONY will probably make more with the PS4 than they ever did with the PS1 and PS2.

It would cost tens of billions just to buy the brand right now. The Xbox brand is kinda worthless now. Back to where it was in the original xbox days, except Halo is a mediocre clown copy of CoD.

It would probably be better for google to come up with their own branding. Something with "nexus" sounds pretty good.

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#85 kingtito
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The part that makes this hard to believe is that these talks were supposedly going on before the X1 reveal.

The X1 is such a mess idk if it can be saved. People buy consoles to game on first and usually use a streaming service like Netflix, etc second. Amazon would have to lower the price and seriously consider dumping Kinect.

How is it a mess? It has great games to play, a great service in Live and more options than the PS4. How exactly is it a mess? Is it because YOU don't like Kinect? Is it because YOU don't think it's worth $500? It's sales are great even if it doesn't sell as much as the PS4. So explain how it's a mess.

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#86  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@I_can_haz said:

This would be great news if true. Amazon is a much better company than MS IMO. I'd be willing to buy a console from them if they included Amazon Prime with the whole package. You know they'd have lots of sweet sales and deals. Famousmortimer is a very credible insider just like Cboat, I hope he's right on this one. The lem meltdowns would be glorious if true lol

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lol lems already jumping team to Amazon. Let see how they celebrate when announce Halo multiplat to PS4.

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#89  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@speak_low said:

How credible is this Twitter guy? Who the hell is he

He has been most likely right,but he screwed up a couple of times. This rumor is definetly fake.MS is not dumb enough to sell the xbox brand to another company.

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@noblecow said:

This is just proof that Microsoft can't commit to anything that's not an instant success, which is why the gaming industry would be better without them.

The PS3 was a major flop for the first few years, but SONY didn't try to dink their fans by canning the PS3 and releasing the PS4 2-3 years later. They stuck with the PS3, improved the SDK, started releasing the best exclusives on consoles and even evened out in sales with their closest competitor.

For most of the PS1 to the PS3 generation, console makers took a loss on profit in order to built marketshare. Profits would pursue after 3-5 years after the hardware was released. This was beneficial to the consumers, console manufacturer and 3rd party devs. Consumers were able to get any console they liked at a price below the total sum of its parts. Console manufacturers would be able to build up marketshare and make their bread and butter through royalties. 3rd party devs would have a wider audience by releasing games on those consoles.

I don't deny that SONY likes money, but they also care about their fans, which Microsoft doesn't. You wanna know why the 360's exclusive lineup was trash? Because Microsoft was making a killing with the 360 and they saw no need to invest their money in games. If you take a look back at the PS1 and PS2 days, SONY never slacked when it came to exclusive 1st party line-up despite making billions every year and having the largest marketshare. My point: SONY is greedy, but they're consumer friendly. Microsoft isn't.

What Microsoft wants is to be able to sell us weaksauce parts for a huge profit margin on day 1 and then charge us $120/year for Xbox LIVE Gold. They also only want to have Halo, Gears and Forza as their 1st party exclusives and never have to invest in new IPs. They are a cancer on the gaming industry and they should leave.

Um what?

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#92 super600  Moderator
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@super600: Right about what???? The guy guesses like anyone on this board does. All of these guys are total scammers. Greenberg even said that he is not an insider and that if he was MSoft would actually take some kind of action. LOL........

Famousmortimer said that he decided to post this rumor for fun.

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#94 super600  Moderator
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Since this rumor has been confirmed fake by famousmortimer and greemberg this thread will be locked.