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The ps4 is thus confirmed to be 40% more powerfull in memory and 50% in GPU...sad day for lemmings.
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rocoswav
Why does power matter so much to console gamers?
The Xbox was multiple times more powerful than the PS2. It wasn't simply 50% more....More like 500% more.
Everyone chose the PS2 anyways because it had the most games.
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There is nothing about the power difference between the PS4 and Xbox One that's going to actually change the gaming experience between the two systems. It'll be an almost indifferential amount (thanks to diminishing returns) that you won't know exists without going to pixel counting sites like Digital Foundry.
500%? lol wtf are you talking aboutWhy does power matter so much to console gamers?
The Xbox was multiple times more powerful than the PS2. It wasn't simply 50% more....More like 500% more.
Everyone chose the PS2 anyways because it had the most games.
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There is nothing about the power difference between the PS4 and Xbox One that's going to actually change the gaming experience between the two systems. It'll be an almost indifferential amount (thanks to diminishing returns) that you won't know exists without going to pixel counting sites like Digital Foundry.
Ly_the_Fairy
Not sure, I already stressed that the ps2 was weak, but it still was the most popular console because of the games. If people want power and graphics go to the pc. As I've stated many times before, graphics mean nothing if the gameplay and story suck.Why does power matter so much to console gamers?
The Xbox was multiple times more powerful than the PS2. It wasn't simply 50% more....More like 500% more.
Everyone chose the PS2 anyways because it had the most games.
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There is nothing about the power difference between the PS4 and Xbox One that's going to actually change the gaming experience between the two systems. It'll be an almost indifferential amount (thanks to diminishing returns) that you won't know exists without going to pixel counting sites like Digital Foundry.
Ly_the_Fairy
dat damage control is scaling,DF article sure did a big damage :cool: #staymadanshiet.. Tessellation
http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gddr5/Pages/gddr5.aspxÂ
rocoswav
You need some reading comprehension lessons, man. That link is refering to GRAPHICS CARD memory NOT system memory.
From the damn article: GDDR5 is the de facto memory standard for todays high performance GPUs equip your notebooks with the latest and greatest technology! ", "Notebooks equipped with AMD Radeon HD 6000M Series GPUs and GDDR5 memory can enable up to 20% better graphics performance with minimal impact in battery life."
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Welcome to the futuristic world of 2008, folks!
The_Stand_In
Does anyone else notice how the more diehard Cows pick and choose what threads they post in? Hilarious. No reason for this not to be in that othr thread. The one most Cows are avoiding.
[QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"]Your precious XB1 GPU is made by AMD, you priaspismic phallus. :?:lol:AMD
DrTrafalgarLaw
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:lol: Lems :lol: they dont even know whats in there Box :lol:
Your precious XB1 GPU is made by AMD, you priaspismic phallus. :?[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"]
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Soul4Survivor
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:lol: Lems :lol: they dont even know whats in there Box :lol:
LOL...LOL[QUOTE="Soul4Survivor"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Your precious XB1 GPU is made by AMD, you priaspismic phallus. :?Kaz_Son
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:lol: Lems :lol: they dont even know whats in there Box :lol:
:lol: Moronic lems. "O... I dawt it was Nveedia in my eggz box 1"Why does power matter so much to console gamers?
The Xbox was multiple times more powerful than the PS2. It wasn't simply 50% more....More like 500% more.
Everyone chose the PS2 anyways because it had the most games.
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There is nothing about the power difference between the PS4 and Xbox One that's going to actually change the gaming experience between the two systems. It'll be an almost indifferential amount (thanks to diminishing returns) that you won't know exists without going to pixel counting sites like Digital Foundry.
Ly_the_Fairy
If they care so much about graphics and performance they should be gaming on a PC.
[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]Not sure, I already stressed that the ps2 was weak, but it still was the most popular console because of the games. If people want power and graphics go to the pc. As I've stated many times before, graphics mean nothing if the gameplay and story suck.Why does power matter so much to console gamers?
The Xbox was multiple times more powerful than the PS2. It wasn't simply 50% more....More like 500% more.
Everyone chose the PS2 anyways because it had the most games.
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There is nothing about the power difference between the PS4 and Xbox One that's going to actually change the gaming experience between the two systems. It'll be an almost indifferential amount (thanks to diminishing returns) that you won't know exists without going to pixel counting sites like Digital Foundry.
2ndWonder
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And it's on such a limited spectrum to.
It's like if I have $2, and you have $3, you have 50% more money than me, but you don't really have much more money than me.
It's different if I have $200, and you have $300. Now you have actually quite a bit more money than me, but still 50% more overall.
I think that's the one thing many people don't quite realize. The jump in power from the Xbox One to PS4 just isn't that big at all. Games will look about even, and there won't be anything gameplay-wise that's possible on the PS4 that's impossible on the Xbox One.
The Xbox One GPU has 32MB L4 cache and move engines with custom texture tiling and LZ compression / decompression hardware, which negates the PS4's GDDR5 advantage...superclockedYep, why they keep wanking over this is also a mystery to me I have my pc for high end graphics lol The PS4 is not worth it's weight in piss
The Xbox One GPU has 32MB L4 cache and move engines with custom texture tiling and LZ compression / decompression hardware, which negates the PS4's GDDR5 advantage...superclockedall that doesnt magically add bandwidth though, more bandwidth =more you can do and produce on screen
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all that doesnt magically add bandwidth though, more bandwidth =more you can do and produce on screen[QUOTE="superclocked"]The Xbox One GPU has 32MB L4 cache and move engines with custom texture tiling and LZ compression / decompression hardware, which negates the PS4's GDDR5 advantage...xboxiphoneps3
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and the PS4 gpu has a 50% shader advantage and 6 more CU'sÂ
True. Lemmings keep on trying to wish away PS4's obvious GPU advantage. Dunno why. They keep talking about RAM like RAM is the only thing needed for graphics and neglect the GPU which is the most importnat aspect.all that doesnt magically add bandwidth though, more bandwidth =more you can do and produce on screen[QUOTE="superclocked"]The Xbox One GPU has 32MB L4 cache and move engines with custom texture tiling and LZ compression / decompression hardware, which negates the PS4's GDDR5 advantage...xboxiphoneps3
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and the PS4 gpu has a 50% shader advantage and 6 more CU'sÂ
Yes, the PS4's GPU is definitely better. But, you're looking at the DDR3 vs GDDR5 bandwidth comparison without considering the XBox One's custom hardware. With the 32MB of L4 cache, custom tiling hardware, and custom lossless compression and decompression hardware, the only advantage that the GDDR5 has is ease of use for developers. In the end, the performance of both systems are very close to one another...[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]all that doesnt magically add bandwidth though, more bandwidth =more you can do and produce on screen[QUOTE="superclocked"]The Xbox One GPU has 32MB L4 cache and move engines with custom texture tiling and LZ compression / decompression hardware, which negates the PS4's GDDR5 advantage...superclocked
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and the PS4 gpu has a 50% shader advantage and 6 more CU'sÂ
Yes, the PS4's GPU is definitely better. But, you're looking at the DDR3 vs GDDR5 bandwidth comparison without considering the XBox One's custom hardware. With the 32MB of L4 cache, custom tiling hardware, and custom lossless compression and decompression hardware, the only advantage that the GDDR5 has is ease of use for developers. In the end, the performance of both systems are very close to one another...lol no. GPU>>>>RAM any day if you're talking about graphics and no GDDR5 is still an advanatge over DDR3 despite ESRAM on the XB1.[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]all that doesnt magically add bandwidth though, more bandwidth =more you can do and produce on screen[QUOTE="superclocked"]The Xbox One GPU has 32MB L4 cache and move engines with custom texture tiling and LZ compression / decompression hardware, which negates the PS4's GDDR5 advantage...superclocked
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and the PS4 gpu has a 50% shader advantage and 6 more CU'sÂ
Yes, the PS4's GPU is definitely better. But, you're looking at the DDR3 vs GDDR5 bandwidth comparison without considering the XBox One's custom hardware. With the 32MB of L4 cache, custom tiling hardware, and custom lossless compression and decompression hardware, the only advantage that the GDDR5 has is ease of use for developers. In the end, the performance of both systems are very close to one another... 32 mb is not much at all, there is only 32 mb of fast ram in the system, thats not going to speed up the slow ddr3 ram, the move engines wont speed it up either All that stuff does is try to band aid the performance gap between ps4 and xb1 bandwidth. And still cant change the fact ps4 gpu has noticeably more powerThank you. It was actually no effort on my part. Cows make it easy.shaine your sig is true. Â
XBOunity
[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] all that doesnt magically add bandwidth though, more bandwidth =more you can do and produce on screenYes, the PS4's GPU is definitely better. But, you're looking at the DDR3 vs GDDR5 bandwidth comparison without considering the XBox One's custom hardware. With the 32MB of L4 cache, custom tiling hardware, and custom lossless compression and decompression hardware, the only advantage that the GDDR5 has is ease of use for developers. In the end, the performance of both systems are very close to one another...lol no. GPU>>>>RAM any day if you're talking about graphics and no GDDR5 is still an advanatge over DDR3 despite ESRAM on the XB1.Uuum, I'm well aware that the PS4 has a better GPU. It was the firs sentence in my post :|Â
and the PS4 gpu has a 50% shader advantage and 6 more CU'sÂ
Kaz_Son
32 mb is not much at all, there is only 32 mb of fast ram in the system, thats not going to speed up the slow ddr3 ram, the move engines wont speed it up eitherxboxiphoneps3The 32MB of cache will speed up the GPU, as well as help with the lack of GDDR5 RAM. The main thing that you're ignoring is the fact that the move engines are linked to the eSRAM and RAM and uses custom texture tiling hardware that provides PRT without a performance hit, unlike the PS4. The move engines also have custom lossless compression and decompression hardware, which means that the XBox One doesn't need nearly as much RAM bandwidth to begin...
[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Yes, the PS4's GPU is definitely better. But, you're looking at the DDR3 vs GDDR5 bandwidth comparison without considering the XBox One's custom hardware. With the 32MB of L4 cache, custom tiling hardware, and custom lossless compression and decompression hardware, the only advantage that the GDDR5 has is ease of use for developers. In the end, the performance of both systems are very close to one another...superclockedlol no. GPU>>>>RAM any day if you're talking about graphics and no GDDR5 is still an advanatge over DDR3 despite ESRAM on the XB1.Uuum, I'm well aware that the PS4 has a better GPU. It was the firs sentence in my post :|That's not what I was talking about. I was saying that GPU is more important than RAM when it comes to graphics. Even if PS4's RAM advantage isn't as big as you say the GPU advantage is significant enough to ensure that both systems won't be identical in performance. PS4 has a significant advantage anyway you look at it.
[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"]Link? And is this talking about ram or GPU memory?rocoswav
http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gddr5/Pages/gddr5.aspxÂ
Is the PS4 GPU GDDR5 like the ram?[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]lol no. GPU>>>>RAM any day if you're talking about graphics and no GDDR5 is still an advanatge over DDR3 despite ESRAM on the XB1.Kaz_SonUuum, I'm well aware that the PS4 has a better GPU. It was the firs sentence in my post :|Taht's not what I was talking about. I was saying that GPU is more important than RAM when it comes to graphics. Even if PS4's RAM advantage isn't as big as you say the GPU advantage is significant enough to ensure that both systems won't be identical.True, but hopefully the upclock rumor from first party devs is true. An increase to just 950MHz would make it 1.84 TFLOPS vs 1.46 TFLOPS. But, even at 1.23 TFLOPS, the XBox One GPU is only 33% slower than the PS4 GPU. That's really not all that much. If someone wants the most powerful system, they should really be gaming on PC. My $200 GCN GPU put out 3.69 TFLOPS @ 1.2GHz...
[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Uuum, I'm well aware that the PS4 has a better GPU. It was the firs sentence in my post :|superclockedTaht's not what I was talking about. I was saying that GPU is more important than RAM when it comes to graphics. Even if PS4's RAM advantage isn't as big as you say the GPU advantage is significant enough to ensure that both systems won't be identical.True, but hopefully the upclock rumor from first party devs is true. An increase to just 950MHz would make it 1.84 TFLOPS vs 1.46 TFLOPS. But, even at 1.23 TFLOPS, the XBox One GPU is only 33% slower than the PS4 GPU. That's really not all that much. If someone wants the most powerful system, they should really be gaming on PC. My $200 GCN GPU put out 3.69 TFLOPS @ 1.2GHz...True, PC gaming wins either way but the PS4 is still more powerful than the XB1 for $100 cheaper and that's significant IMO.
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