AMD - Xbox 720 graphics will look like Avatar

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#1 worknow222
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Sorry if old http://www.examiner.com/game-news-in-national/amd-xbox-720-graphics-will-look-like-avatar am a xbox fan and I Doubt this Then again we will have to wait and see But to put out their this is a tech demo for what ATI/AMD can do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YjXCae4Gu0

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#2 soulitane
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At 480p of course :o
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#3 Inconsistancy
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Well, that's just bs, unless they got proper raytracing to work in real time w/o us knowing it, or w/o even a simplified tech demo for the current gen GPU's.

Avatar, although impressive from a technical standpoint... God it was bad, those damn blue things, so ugly, looked like they had downs.

At 480p of course :osoulitane

By any chance, are you refering to 'that' thread about how xbox can beat pc graphics? :lol:

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I highly, highly, highly, highly. highly doubt that.

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#6 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Not a chance in hell.
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#7 GTSaiyanjin2
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its just BS hype.... not even PC's will look like Avatar for the next 10 years or more.

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#8 TailBlood
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Not that Avatar looked that good anywho. Can the visuals come close to something like Curious Case of Benjamin Button?

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#9 SaltyMeatballs
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C'mon people, it might LOOK like Avatar... it won't be close, but it could look like it :P
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#10 Vyse_Legends
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So all of its game will be blue?

Well that certainly would be a nice change considering this generation enjoys soley gunmetal grey and dog**** brown.:P

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#11 TailBlood
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C'mon people, it might LOOK like Avatar... it won't be close, but it could look like it :PSaltyMeatballs
It might be closer though. Avatar looks good, and has the video gamey astetic to it, where it's not realstic, but still looks impressive due to it's heavy use of Visual effect. But I will be impressed once someone says "The game will look like Benjamin Button" Then I will say "Yup. Gaming has been maxed out".

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#12 Inconsistancy
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So all of its game will be blue?

Well that certainly would be a nice change considering this generation enjoys soley gunmetal grey and dog**** brown.:P

Vyse_Legends

Windows 8 confirmed Me's successor, BSoD! There is that rumor it'll be running Win8 after all, that BSoD will add quite a good amount of blue. :lol:

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]C'mon people, it might LOOK like Avatar... it won't be close, but it could look like it :PTailBlood

It might be closer though. Avatar looks good, and has the video gamey astetic to it, where it's not realstic, but still looks impressive due to it's heavy use of Visual effect. But I will be impressed once someone says "The game will look like Benjamin Button" Then I will say "Yup. Gaming has been maxed out".

Why's his head, in your picture, look too big for the body?

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#13 II_Seraphim_II
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lol, yeah sure... lol
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]At 480p of course :oInconsistancy
By any chance, are you refering to 'that' thread about how xbox can beat pc graphics? :lol:

Of course, since the idea is foolproof :o

:lol:

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#15 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="soulitane"]At 480p of course :osoulitane

By any chance, are you refering to 'that' thread about how xbox can beat pc graphics? :lol:

Of course, since the idea is foolproof :o

:lol:

I'm gonna get my CRT out of my closet, upgrade back to true 480p w/o upscalling, can't wait for next gen!
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If that happens then I'm a mod.

:| ok, not exactly my best analogy :P :oops:

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#17 tomarlyn
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Are we even at Toy Story level yet?
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#18 ravenguard90
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As of what we have now currently, very much so, yes. But if sudden leaps in GPU technology do occur in the near future (look at the Nvidia GPU roadmap and Maxwell, for instance), then it could very well be possible.

I believe Nvidia was talking about how ray-tracing is the next "big thing" for creating graphics in an article I read not too long ago. If they really believe that, and they develop their technology to foster that level of processing, Avatar graphics could very well be attainable in real-time.

Ah, here it is. Pretty interesting, if you're into the tech industry and the like.

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#19 TailBlood
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"] Windows 8 confirmed Me's successor, BSoD! There is that rumor it'll be running Win8 after all, that BSoD will add quite a good amount of blue. :lol:

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]C'mon people, it might LOOK like Avatar... it won't be close, but it could look like it :PInconsistancy

It might be closer though. Avatar looks good, and has the video gamey astetic to it, where it's not realstic, but still looks impressive due to it's heavy use of Visual effect. But I will be impressed once someone says "The game will look like Benjamin Button" Then I will say "Yup. Gaming has been maxed out".

Why's his head, in your picture, look too big for the body?

Possibly the picture. Although, I don't notice it being that big. Have you watch the film in motion?

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#20 Inconsistancy
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Are we even at Toy Story level yet?tomarlyn
I'd say we can do that with current hardware, of course, smoke and mirror's, not Ray Traced, 'least the first ToyStory, in a screenshot, looks doable.

Possibly the picture. Although, I don't notice it being that big. Have you watch the film in motion?

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Nope, never seen it, is it good?

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#22 TailBlood
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Are we even at Toy Story level yet?Inconsistancy

I'd say we can do that with current hardware, of course, smoke and mirror's, not Ray Traced, 'least the first ToyStory, in a screenshot, looks doable.

Possibly the picture. Although, I don't notice it being that big. Have you watch the film in motion?

TailBlood

Nope, never seen it, is it good?

It's great. It's not a masterpiece, but it's a lot of fun. You should watch a trailer. Basically when Brad Pitt is an Old-Child it's all CGI. But it's really hard to notice the difference. It looks fantastic and lifelike. That's the difference between it and Avatar. Most of the time while watching that film it's "K, obviously it's CGI"

Check out a trailer and tell me if that can be done sooner than Avatar.

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#23 SaltyMeatballs
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Are we even at Toy Story level yet?tomarlyn

No, but it LOOKS like TS :P

Image 25

http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2010/115/945065_20100426_screen001.jpg

http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2010/115/945065_20100426_screen002.jpg

But lol

http://www.filmdogsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/toy-story.png

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#24 Valiant_Rebel
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The tech demos may look like Avatar, but the games will not.

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#25 TailBlood
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Better Screen.

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#26 KevinButlerVP
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I hope the guy who let out this statement was on multiple substances, otherwise lol
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#27 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Are we even at Toy Story level yet?SaltyMeatballs

No, but it LOOKS like TS :P

But lol

Close enough. I think next gen games will look on par with Avatar to the naked eye but not under a magnifying glass. Maybe not in motion anyway, but then again i suppose when you're making a CGI film you set aside extra time to try and make each frame look perfect.

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I don't know if it will be quite as good as avatar, but I'm surprised that people think it won't be a HUGE step up from everything we are seeing on ANY platform. The only way a new console will sell is if it blows away the consumers. The next set of consoles will be beyond anything we've seen, pc included. PC will catch up and eclipse the consoles shortly after, though.

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#29 Rude_Bwoii
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Even if it does not at least they set the bar high for the 720. The wii u is going to get owned hard.
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#30 gpuking
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It doesn't have to be Avatar quality not that it would, as long as it's 10x better than xbox 360 then that's fine for me.
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#31 hoplayletsplay
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I don't know if it will be quite as good as avatar, but I'm surprised that people think it won't be a HUGE step up from everything we are seeing on ANY platform. The only way a new console will sell is if it blows away the consumers. The next set of consoles will be beyond anything we've seen, pc included. PC will catch up and eclipse the consoles shortly after, though.

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Saddly, the Wii disagree with you.
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#32 navyguy21
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I highly, highly, highly, highly. highly doubt that.

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you seem a tad bit skeptical, amirite? :P
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#33 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't know if it will be quite as good as avatar, but I'm surprised that people think it won't be a HUGE step up from everything we are seeing on ANY platform. The only way a new console will sell is if it blows away the consumers. The next set of consoles will be beyond anything we've seen, pc included. PC will catch up and eclipse the consoles shortly after, though.

hoplayletsplay

Saddly, the Wii disagree with you.

That is a different story. MS and Sony don't work like Nintendo. In order for people to want to upgrade from 360/ps3, the visuals will have to blow people away.

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#34 russiaAK47
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Not that Avatar looked that good anywho. Can the visuals come close to something like Curious Case of Benjamin Button?

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i think thats mostly make-up and the body of another guy pasted under brad pitts head. its not cgi.

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#35 CuRle_
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Sorry if old http://www.examiner.com/game-news-in-national/amd-xbox-720-graphics-will-look-like-avatar am a xbox fan and I Doubt this Then again we will have to wait and see But to put out their this is a tech demo for what ATI/AMD can do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YjXCae4Gu0

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So, it's confirmed, XBOX 720 won't be out till 2020?
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#36 TailBlood
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[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

Not that Avatar looked that good anywho. Can the visuals come close to something like Curious Case of Benjamin Button?

russiaAK47

i think thats mostly make-up and the body of another guy pasted under brad pitts head. its not cgi.

Jesus. I hate when people do this. They don't even know, and yet they post out of there buts. Do a youtube search on the visual effects of the movie. It's all CGI!!! PLEASE KNOW BEFORE YOU POST!

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#38 mitu123
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Now I wonder how much it'll cost...

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#39 Tezcatlipoca666
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Didn't Sony same somthing similar about the PS2. Something about 3D movie-like graphics?

Anyway, it is all marketing BS.

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#40 Mozelleple112
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Are we talking Avatar the game or movie?

The first is possible :p

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#41 PernicioEnigma
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C'mon, don't you guys remember the ridiculous claims made before the current generation of consoles were released? Like, for example, PS3 graphics exceeding the CGI in the Spiderman 2 movie? I'm fairly certain next gen console graphics wont look as good as modded Crysis.
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#42 Nonstop-Madness
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Are they trying to make be believe that the Xbox 720 will be as powerful as a farm of servers that can tear through an entire DVD worth of data per second ?
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#43 CuRle_
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Maybe he was talking about XBL avatars.
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#44 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Maybe he was talking about XBL avatars.CuRle_
LOL I'd say Avatar is kind of close. Crysis plus more detailed ground cover and characters.
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I remember hearing that the computers used to create Avatar took upwards of several hours to render a single frame:shock:

That would equate to a few days to get ONE SECOND of video

So unless the Xbox720 gets a 100,000 times leap in GPU power, this will not happen:cry:

I mean I would love for the PS4 to have "Advent Children" graphics in real time, but prolly won't happen either:x

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#46 dxmcat
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I want next-gen graphics to match the E3 05 PS3 CGI trailers :P

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#48 Kinthalis
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The depth of field the lighting, the reflections and image quality (AA, AF) from the last screenshot (the actual movie) I think are pretty close to what a high end PC can put out. But then go look at a more complex scene from the movie. Like one featuring thousands of perfectly modeled blades of grass and you'll realize just how far we still have to go.
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#49 Gibsonsg527
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lol no way

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#50 ronvalencia
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At 480p of course :osoulitane

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Larrabee-Ray-Tracing,5769.html

In terms of performance, the Radeon 2900XT 1GB rendered Transformers scenes in 20-30 frames per second, in 720p resolution and no Anti-Aliasing. With the Radeon 3870, the test scene jumped to 60 fps, with a drop to 20 fps when the proprietary Anti-Aliasing algorithm was applied. Urbach mentioned that the Radeon 4870 hits the same 60 fps - and stays at that level with Anti-Aliasing (a ray-tracer is not expecting more than 60 fps.) JulesWorld's technology also works on Nvidia GeForce 8800 cards and above, but the lack of a tessellation unit causes a bit more work on the ray-tracer side.