an actual honest look at killzone 3

this is a video that all SW needs to see. this pretty much adresses all the BS I keep hearing about this game. this guy actually knows what he is talking about.

(warning. there is swearing in this video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scj7H0I0liQ (when you follow the link it sometimes skips partway through the video. the begining is where he talks about KZ3)

Lol! I was laughing the whole time. He is a fanboy for hating the 360 imo! You must at least like every system to not be a fanboy imo.

I would buy it for the campaign, but why does the multiplayer have killstreaks and perks? Holding a assault rifle and shotgun with faster reload times and increased bullet damage? LOL.

The game seems more noobish than KZ2 which actually took a good amount of skill for a console FPS.

"What's up **** -Stops taking the dude seriously-. :|

Its a glorified cod clone, nothing else.

I would buy it for the campaign, but why does the multiplayer have killstreaks and perks? Holding a assault rifle and shotgun with faster reload times and increased bullet damage? LOL.

The game seems more noobish than KZ2 which actually took a good amount of skill for a console FPS.

mitu123

nice try, guy who made said video... were not going to give your free views

nice try, guy who made said video... were not going to give your free views

tutt3r

I could send you a link to my youtube channel if you want. trust me. I wish I were silent rob.

here is a video I made about KZ3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsKVmDTMGQ

I didn't even click and i knew it would be silent rob. :| If i go cuss into a camera like a 12 year old does that make my point of view 'honest' and 'legit'? Ninja-Hippo

I would buy it for the campaign, but why does the multiplayer have killstreaks and perks? Holding a assault rifle and shotgun with faster reload times and increased bullet damage? LOL.

The game seems more noobish than KZ2 which actually took a good amount of skill for a console FPS.

mitu123

There actually aren't any kill streaks in the game. You get extra points for getting killstreaks of 3, 5, and 10, but there are no kill streak similar to the ones in CoD. The perks aren't much of a problem either. Having 2 primary weapons is good but at the same time you hardly get any ammo for either weapon. There is a shotgun pistol anyway thats a side arm so the appeal to use 2 primaries isn't very much.

The shotguns in Killzone are also very balanced and work the way shotguns should work in games, not like the ones from MW2. The biggest problem in the game is the Marksman class. Unlimited Invisibility + Radar Blocking + Sta52 (Best Assault Rifle in the Game) + Proximity Mines + VC3 Sniper Rifle = Rage

There is no counter to this setup and if the person wants to sit in obscure parts of the map while completely invisible and cover his back with Proxy Mines than there really is no stopping him. Get a few of those players 100 yards from your spawn point and there really is nothing you can do.

If anything, rent it for the campaign and maybe a few matches of MP. The campaign was actually quite enjoyable despite what critics have said (Play on Veteran your first go, Normal is EZ Mode)

Dude your trying way to hard, just enjoy your flop alot of people that enjoyes KZ2 just don't like Flop of kill duty zone 3 deal with it.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I would buy it for the campaign, but why does the multiplayer have killstreaks and perks? Holding a assault rifle and shotgun with faster reload times and increased bullet damage? LOL.

The game seems more noobish than KZ2 which actually took a good amount of skill for a console FPS.

spookykid143

From what I played in the KZ3 beta, it's so much easier than KZ2 it's insane, people and bots die much faster, ribbons have an affect on how you play to simply dominate your enemies, and the changes in classes can be absurd, a medic with a LMG that can revive himself? That's cool but a bit overpowering.:P

Dude your trying way to hard, just enjoy your flop alot of people that enjoyes KZ2 just don't like Flop of kill duty zone 3 deal with it.

Ultra_Combo

Exactly, Killzone 2 met its hype so I was easily able to enjoy it. Killzone 3 flopped on GameSpot but I bought the game anyway and after playing the MP I was like "WTF is this flop? I can't enjoy a game that flops on GameSpot!!!"

Back to BLOPs I suppose. That game actually met its hype

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I would buy it for the campaign, but why does the multiplayer have killstreaks and perks? Holding a assault rifle and shotgun with faster reload times and increased bullet damage? LOL.

The game seems more noobish than KZ2 which actually took a good amount of skill for a console FPS.

mitu123

From what I played in the KZ3 beta, it's so much easier than KZ2 it's insane, people and bots die much faster, ribbons have an affect on how you play to simply dominate your enemies, and the changes in classes can be absurd, a medic with a LMG that can revive himself? That's cool but a bit overpowering.:P

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I would buy it for the campaign, but why does the multiplayer have killstreaks and perks? Holding a assault rifle and shotgun with faster reload times and increased bullet damage? LOL.

The game seems more noobish than KZ2 which actually took a good amount of skill for a console FPS.

BPoole96

There actually aren't any kill streaks in the game. You get extra points for getting killstreaks of 3, 5, and 10, but there are no kill streak similar to the ones in CoD. The perks aren't much of a problem either. Having 2 primary weapons is good but at the same time you hardly get any ammo for either weapon. There is a shotgun pistol anyway thats a side arm so the appeal to use 2 primaries isn't very much.

The shotguns in Killzone are also very balanced and work the way shotguns should work in games, not like the ones from MW2. The biggest problem in the game is the Marksman Unlimited Invisibility + Radar Blocking + Sta52 (Best Assault Rifle in the Game) + Proximity Mines + VC3 Sniper Rifle = Rage

There is no counter to this setup and if the person wants to sit in obscure parts of the map while completely invisible and cover his back with Proxy Mines than there really is no stopping him. Get a few of those players 100 yards from your spawn point and there really is nothing you can do.

If anything, rent it for the campaign and maybe a few matches of MP. The campaign was actually quite enjoyable despite what critics have said (Play on Veteran your first go, Normal is EZ Mode)

LOL Marksman.:P

I brought Killzone 2 for 30 bucks and I can do the same here or even less.

Oh, look, another cow who's still mad. :lol:

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]Not really KZ2 was filled with people who ran around with a rocket launcher and just played Radec academy to rack up points.

spookykid143

From what I played in the KZ3 beta, it's so much easier than KZ2 it's insane, people and bots die much faster, ribbons have an affect on how you play to simply dominate your enemies, and the changes in classes can be absurd, a medic with a LMG that can revive himself? That's cool but a bit overpowering.:P

[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

nice try, guy who made said video... were not going to give your free views

arbitor365

I could send you a link to my youtube channel if you want. trust me. I wish I were silent rob.

here is a video I made about KZ3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsKVmDTMGQ

I don't need to watch any video related to Killzone 3 to change my opinion that the game is a total rail shooter with a continuous cycle of small, incredibly confined, short ("on rails) segments of gameplay followed by a cutscene.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I would buy it for the campaign, but why does the multiplayer have killstreaks and perks? Holding a assault rifle and shotgun with faster reload times and increased bullet damage? LOL.

The game seems more noobish than KZ2 which actually took a good amount of skill for a console FPS.

mitu123

There actually aren't any kill streaks in the game. You get extra points for getting killstreaks of 3, 5, and 10, but there are no kill streak similar to the ones in CoD. The perks aren't much of a problem either. Having 2 primary weapons is good but at the same time you hardly get any ammo for either weapon. There is a shotgun pistol anyway thats a side arm so the appeal to use 2 primaries isn't very much.

The shotguns in Killzone are also very balanced and work the way shotguns should work in games, not like the ones from MW2. The biggest problem in the game is the Marksman Unlimited Invisibility + Radar Blocking + Sta52 (Best Assault Rifle in the Game) + Proximity Mines + VC3 Sniper Rifle = Rage

There is no counter to this setup and if the person wants to sit in obscure parts of the map while completely invisible and cover his back with Proxy Mines than there really is no stopping him. Get a few of those players 100 yards from your spawn point and there really is nothing you can do.

If anything, rent it for the campaign and maybe a few matches of MP. The campaign was actually quite enjoyable despite what critics have said (Play on Veteran your first go, Normal is EZ Mode)

LOL Marksman.:P

I brought Killzone 2 for 30 bucks and I can do the same here or even less.

The ribbons don't make that much of a difference. The only one thats really useful is faster reloading. Even the increased bullet damage is hardly noticeable, especially when the game is OHK head shots anyway. Never when I die am I screaming "OMFG he only killed me because he has the ______ ribbon!" Bullet damage is gotten through getting a certain amount of assists as well, so its not exactly a kill streak.

I thought you were talking about getting it now, in which case I wouldn't recommend spending the $60. At $30 though it would be fine if you were alreadt planning on waiting. Just don't want to see anyone else blowing $60 on a lackluster MP game.

I don't need to watch any video related to Killzone 3 to change my opinion that the game is a total rail shooter with a continuous cycle of small, incredibly confined, short ("on rails) segments of gameplay followed by a cutscene.

-Unreal-

there is one small rail gun segment near the beginning of the game, 1 in the middle, and 2 near the end. compiled together, it doesnt even ammount to 30 minutes out of the entire 6 to 7 hour campaign.

you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and you clearly havent even played the game. like 90% of the people in this thread right now.

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

nice try, guy who made said video... were not going to give your free views

DarkLink77

I could send you a link to my youtube channel if you want. trust me. I wish I were silent rob.

here is a video I made about KZ3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsKVmDTMGQ

:lol: I gae Killzone 3 the same score as Edge. I suppose that makes me a liar and biased against the PS3 as well :P

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

I don't need to watch any video related to Killzone 3 to change my opinion that the game is a total rail shooter with a continuous cycle of small, incredibly confined, short ("on rails) segments of gameplay followed by a cutscene.

arbitor365

there is one small rail gun segment near the beginning of the game, 1 in the middle, and 2 near the end. compiled together, it doesnt even ammount to 30 minutes out of the entire 6 to 7 hour campaign.

you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and you clearly havent even played the game. like 90% of the people in this thread right now.

According to Killzone.com I've played the MP almost 3x longer than you have, so when I say something, I do know what i'm talking about

I completley agreed with his review.

Its a glorified cod clone, nothing else.

Sandvichman

Have you even played Killzone 3?

[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

nice try, guy who made said video... were not going to give your free views

arbitor365

I could send you a link to my youtube channel if you want. trust me. I wish I were silent rob.

here is a video I made about KZ3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsKVmDTMGQ

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="arbitor365"]

I could send you a link to my youtube channel if you want. trust me. I wish I were silent rob.

here is a video I made about KZ3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsKVmDTMGQ

BPoole96

:lol: I gae Killzone 3 the same score as Edge. I suppose that makes me a liar and biased against the PS3 as well :P

it could mean that you dont know how to judge a game on any reasonable level..... or you could just be a liar. I wasnt going to say that, but its a possibility.

the primary reason I have heard from you is

"waah! the online has killstreaks! that makes it more unbalanced than an 80 year old man's bowels!! worst multiplayer evarr!"

you act like killstreaks are the holocaust of online multiplayer. KZ3 is not unbalanced. its sure of a hell alot more balanced than halo, COD, resistance 2, killzone 2 or any other online multiplayer that I have experienced this gen. the killstreaks do not make that much of a difference. you are making a mountain out of a molehill and the fact that you are a PS3 owner does not give you credibility.

Dude your trying way to hard, just enjoy your flop alot of people that enjoyes KZ2 just don't like Flop of kill duty zone 3 deal with it.

Ultra_Combo

LOL! Killzone 3 is nothing like Call of Duty. You fail.

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

I don't need to watch any video related to Killzone 3 to change my opinion that the game is a total rail shooter with a continuous cycle of small, incredibly confined, short ("on rails) segments of gameplay followed by a cutscene.

arbitor365

there is one small rail gun segment near the beginning of the game, 1 in the middle, and 2 near the end. compiled together, it doesnt even ammount to 30 minutes out of the entire 6 to 7 hour campaign.

you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and you clearly havent even played the game. like 90% of the people in this thread right now.

This.

it could mean that you dont know how to judge a game on any reasonable level..... or you could just be a liar. I wasnt going to say that, but its a possibility.

the primary reason I have heard from you is

"waah! the online has killstreaks! that makes it more unbalanced than an 80 year old man's bowels!! worst multiplayer evarr!"

you act like killstreaks are the holocaust of online multiplayer. KZ3 is not unbalanced. its sure of a hell alot more balanced than halo, COD, resistance 2, killzone 2 or any other online multiplayer that I have experienced this gen. the killstreaks do not make that much of a difference. you are making a mountain out of a molehill and the fact that you are a PS3 owner does not give you credibility.

arbitor365

Whats your Gamertag btw, since you know so much about Halo?

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yep, you're still mad. :lol:arbitor365

:lol: I gae Killzone 3 the same score as Edge. I suppose that makes me a liar and biased against the PS3 as well :P

it could mean that you dont know how to judge a game on any reasonable level..... or you could just be a liar. I wasnt going to say that, but its a possibility.

the primary reason I have heard from you is

"waah! the online has killstreaks! that makes it more unbalanced than an 80 year old man's bowels!! worst multiplayer evarr!"

you act like killstreaks are the holocaust of online multiplayer. KZ3 is not unbalanced. its sure of a hell alot more balanced than halo, COD, resistance 2, killzone 2 or any other online multiplayer that I have experienced this gen. the killstreaks do not make that much of a difference. you are making a mountain out of a molehill and the fact that you are a PS3 owner does not give you credibility.

Killstreaks are the holocaust of online multiplayer. Anyone who's actually played a truly competitive FPS would know this.

And more balanced/competitive than Halo 3? No. Just no. It's had three years to build up a huge competitive scene and balance itself, and it's the face of MLG. So... no.

wow he is mad :lol:

obvious fanboy is obvious

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

There actually aren't any kill streaks in the game. You get extra points for getting killstreaks of 3, 5, and 10, but there are no kill streak similar to the ones in CoD. The perks aren't much of a problem either. Having 2 primary weapons is good but at the same time you hardly get any ammo for either weapon. There is a shotgun pistol anyway thats a side arm so the appeal to use 2 primaries isn't very much.

The shotguns in Killzone are also very balanced and work the way shotguns should work in games, not like the ones from MW2. The biggest problem in the game is the Marksman Unlimited Invisibility + Radar Blocking + Sta52 (Best Assault Rifle in the Game) + Proximity Mines + VC3 Sniper Rifle = Rage

There is no counter to this setup and if the person wants to sit in obscure parts of the map while completely invisible and cover his back with Proxy Mines than there really is no stopping him. Get a few of those players 100 yards from your spawn point and there really is nothing you can do.

If anything, rent it for the campaign and maybe a few matches of MP. The campaign was actually quite enjoyable despite what critics have said (Play on Veteran your first go, Normal is EZ Mode)

BPoole96

LOL Marksman.:P

I brought Killzone 2 for 30 bucks and I can do the same here or even less.

The ribbons don't make that much of a difference. The only one thats really useful is faster reloading. Even the increased bullet damage is hardly noticeable, especially when the game is OHK head shots anyway. Never when I die am I screaming "OMFG he only killed me because he has the ______ ribbon!" Bullet damage is gotten through getting a certain amount of assists as well, so its not exactly a kill streak.

I thought you were talking about getting it now, in which case I wouldn't recommend spending the $60. At $30 though it would be fine if you were alreadt planning on waiting. Just don't want to see anyone else blowing $60 on a lackluster MP game.

Yeah, Ribbons aren't earned by killstreaks. You can die in between progression. 5 assists for Increased Bullet Damage isn't a kill, nor a streak, lol. Same with 3 melee kills for Increased Accuracy.

Also, those two Ribbons I detailed are being nerfed in a patch soon.

---

As for the MP design in general, I'm disappointed by some things they took out from KZ2. The more I play, the more I realize that team work and patience has never been more important, lol.

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

I don't need to watch any video related to Killzone 3 to change my opinion that the game is a total rail shooter with a continuous cycle of small, incredibly confined, short ("on rails) segments of gameplay followed by a cutscene.

arbitor365

there is one small rail gun segment near the beginning of the game, 1 in the middle, and 2 near the end. compiled together, it doesnt even ammount to 30 minutes out of the entire 6 to 7 hour campaign.

you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and you clearly havent even played the game. like 90% of the people in this thread right now.

Watched 34 seconds.

"What's up b******!"
"reviews are ****ing retarded"

And then I shut it off.

edit
See I'm not the only one. :D

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yep, you're still mad. :lol:arbitor365

:lol: I gae Killzone 3 the same score as Edge. I suppose that makes me a liar and biased against the PS3 as well :P

it could mean that you dont know how to judge a game on any reasonable level..... or you could just be a liar. I wasnt going to say that, but its a possibility.

the primary reason I have heard from you is

"waah! the online has killstreaks! that makes it more unbalanced than an 80 year old man's bowels!! worst multiplayer evarr!"

you act like killstreaks are the holocaust of online multiplayer. KZ3 is not unbalanced. its sure of a hell alot more balanced than halo, COD, resistance 2, killzone 2 or any other online multiplayer that I have experienced this gen. the killstreaks do not make that much of a difference. you are making a mountain out of a molehill and the fact that you are a PS3 owner does not give you credibility.

:lol: please show me a quote where I said anything about killstreaks ruining the game

Check a few posts up where I actually told another user that the killstreaks are basically non existant and don't have much impact on the gameplay anyway.

My complaints are:

• No customs lobbies. Killzone 2 had this and it was great. One of the few console games that has this. Now we get terrible matchmaking that only ever wants to put me in matches at Salaman Market.
• Tactical Spawn Areas. The flow of the match is constantly ruined in the opposite team takes the TSA in front of your base and continues to spawn camp the rest of the time. I am trying to complete objectives, no play capture and hold with the TSAs the entire match. Spawn grenades/Squad spawn worked fine in Killzone 2.
• The Marksman Class. I shouldn't have to elaborate. I posted something about it above if you must know.
• Poor map design. Most of the maps seem to focus between players standing on opposite sides of a door and throwing grenades. Play MAWLR Graveyard and you'll see what I mean.
• Proximity Mines are available for every class. Only the Saboteur class in Killzone 2 could have them. Now, every class has access so you can possibly have up to 24 Proxy's live on the map at once. I'm trying to get around and capture points/complete objectives. instead I just die by Proxys all the time because they're everywhere.
• GG hyped up the use of Jetpacks and only ONE map offers jetpacks. Mechs are only on 2 maps
• Only 8 or so maps in the entire game
• Day 1 DLC
• New DLC announced before the game had even been out a week

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

nice try, guy who made said video... were not going to give your free views

W1NGMAN-

I could send you a link to my youtube channel if you want. trust me. I wish I were silent rob.

here is a video I made about KZ3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsKVmDTMGQ

I'm listening to your vid, arbitor365. You're bringing up some valid points, I think.

this is a video that all SW needs to see. this pretty much adresses all the BS I keep hearing about this game. this guy actually knows what he is talking about.

(warning. there is swearing in this video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scj7H0I0liQ (when you follow the link it sometimes skips partway through the video. the begining is where he talks about KZ3)

arbitor365

Listen, you dont even need to watch that video. All you need to do is play the game to find out how great it is...and im talking about SINGLEPLAYER, I havent touched MP yet. I can give anyone screen shots of me owning Halo reach, Gears, whatever they want...KZ3 is more "fun" than those. The story is great...and I love the addition of 70 minutes of cutscenes which add depth to the characters and the story. KZ2 was great, but it was "fight bad guys, next area, fight bad guys, next area" rinse repeat. The mission variety in KZ3 is off the charts, you never do the same thing twice...the weapons feel great, the controls feel great, the graphics are great, the music is amazing. Honestly one of the best story driven FPS's ive played since HL2.

So someone who agrees with your opinion is the ultimate speaker of truth? :roll: Gotta love SWFunconsole

Actually, the OP seems to think the video he linked is an "honest" look at the game (which it technically is :P). I wouldn't say it's the absolute truth, though, lol.