Analysis: PS3 is selling more games (O.O) more than 360 with smaller userbase

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crikey i wonder how many games the ps3 owner actually owns :S o0_L0st_B0y_0o

I have 18. 8 of them are exclusives.

This was already posted about in another thread (with a very similar artical) and i'll say the same again, the info supplied is full of miss imformation.Stoner-Pimp

Like what ?

(Namco Bandi) http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/ir/result/pdf/20080806_2.pdf

(EA) http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/07/30/ps3-turning-the-corner-by-becoming-eas-top-seller/

(Konami) http://www.konami.co.jp/zaimu/0806/english/supplemental.pdf

(UbiSoft) http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/gallery_files/site/270/1042/1827.pdf?PHPSESSID=a7e7dd6437825b39444ac12d9e61f3ee

These developers make up the majority of the market so i think its safe to assume this is correct

It's absolutely absurd to include Konami in that comparison considering that they released MGS4 exclusively on the PS3 thats like saying the 360 is bringing in more for companies like epic because of Geowmattacular

wow imagine what it will be like when the ps3 actually catches up to the 360micky4889

This...

Also..man that means most ps3 owners have got tons of cash :o

OMG!! OwNAGE COnFIRmED!!!!111!1!!!1 :|

I guess this rips arpart the "PS3 has no games" myth.

Yeah and it was the same when the 360 was at a similar userbase

Attach rates really dont frow

It's hard to know what to believe, all of these kinds of articles are full of spin.

For example, how do you explain this?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20713

Personally I couldn't care less. I don't care about sales.

Yet, every monthly chart shows the 360 version of games in the top 10 sellers and PS3 versions are nowhere to be seen. I suspect these numbers to be very dubious considering the source.

Yet, every monthly chart shows the 360 version of games in the top 10 sellers and PS3 versions are nowhere to be seen. I suspect these numbers to be very dubious considering the source.

ParisSun

I suspect the numbers you're referring to are America's.

Ive bought 26 PS3 games this year.

[QUOTE="o0_L0st_B0y_0o"]crikey i wonder how many games the ps3 owner actually owns :S angry_fork

I have 18. 8 of them are exclusives.

[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

[QUOTE="o0_L0st_B0y_0o"]crikey i wonder how many games the ps3 owner actually owns :S MKLOL

I have 18. 8 of them are exclusives.

lmao nice.

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

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well discuss,but its quite wierd tho Ratchet_Fan8

but the 360 attach rate?

It's hard to know what to believe, all of these kinds of articles are full of spin.

For example, how do you explain this?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20713

Personally I couldn't care less. I don't care about sales.

RuprechtMonkey

NPD=america ONLY

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

PBSnipes

Wow. You just destroyed the the PS3 supporters' argument here in this thread. good job. I wonder too how Microsoft can claim an 8.1 attach rate as the highest in history with this article as counterproof. now I know. Good job again.

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

PBSnipes

This.

Anyone can put a spin on figures, thankfully this guy rooted about a bit to get the truth.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

AdmiralDan

Wow. You just destroyed the the PS3 supporters' argument here in this thread. good job. I wonder too how Microsoft can claim an 8.1 attach rate as the highest in history with this article as counterproof. now I know. Good job again.

He didn't destroy anything

fact of the matter some of the biggest developers in gaming made more money of a consoles that's 5 million behind its competitors

And in the end no matter how people try to downplay it that is an amazing feat

Link

well discuss,but its quite wierd tho Ratchet_Fan8

No matter how we look at it, there is something to this report.

I am surprised a bit though, maybe it's the increased piracy on 360. Either way, Piracy also helps move system's as well.

[QUOTE="AdmiralDan"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

micky4889

Wow. You just destroyed the the PS3 supporters' argument here in this thread. good job. I wonder too how Microsoft can claim an 8.1 attach rate as the highest in history with this article as counterproof. now I know. Good job again.

He didn't destroy anything

fact of the matter some of the biggest developers in gaming made more money of a consoles that's 5 million behind its competitors

And in the end no matter how people try to downplay it that is an amazing feat

That.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

CreepyBacon

This.

Anyone can put a spin on figures, thankfully this guy rooted about a bit to get the truth.

People could also spin it and say any game that sells more on the 360 is due to it being a Western game lol

please does it matter if EA sold more on the ps3 because of soccer games ? no because at the end of the day all developers care about is MONEY and they made more of that on the ps3

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

PBSnipes

Owned!

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]

Link

well discuss,but its quite wierd tho SolidTy

No matter how we look at it, there is something to this report.

I am surprised a bit though, maybe it's the increased piracy on 360. Either way, Piracy also helps move system's as well.

No kidding! PSP survives on piracy :P

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

CreepyBacon

This.

Anyone can put a spin on figures, thankfully this guy rooted about a bit to get the truth.

You're right about that.

Fact: During this time frame Ubisoft, Konami, Namco Bandi and EA all made more profit on the PS3 compared to the 360.

Spin: It's only because the devs didn't make shooters to please the lemmings.

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

PBSnipes

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

The problem is the information is misleading. Yes, all four of those publishers sold more games for the PS3. But the article doesn't answer the important question: why?

Namco Bandi and Konami are no-brainers: they're Japanese publishers. Until the 360 gains a significant userbase in Japan, the PS3 will always move more games for Japanese publishers.

Ubisoft: In the first half of their fiscal year (April 2008-September 2008 inclusive) they released a total of 3 different games for the 360 and PS3: Haze (PS3 exclusive), Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Armored Core: For Answer (both multiplat). Again the reason for the PS3's higher revenue is obvious. Haze is a PS3 exclusive, Armored Core is a Japan-centric game, and BiA:HH (the only game one would expect to sell better on the 360) was not only released in the final week of September, but I'd argue it was grossly overshadowed by the various games that were released before and after it.

Finally we come to EA, the most shocking inclusion. After all, EA is a Western publisher with a very America-centric library. However, what the article fails to mention is that during the time period alluded to (April-June 2008 inclusive, IIRC), EA only released one game for either system: UEFA Euro 08. Guess which market a soccer game based on competition between European countries won't appeal to?

So while on the surface it is certainly an impressive feat, the writer doesn't paint a fair picture. All he did was tell us what we already knew: the 360 is primarily a North American console.

DarkyC

This.

Anyone can put a spin on figures, thankfully this guy rooted about a bit to get the truth.

You're right about that.

Fact: During this time frame Ubisoft, Konami, Namco Bandi and EA all made more profit on the PS3 compared to the 360.

Spin: It's only because the devs didn't make shooters to please the lemmings.

Exactly what I thought as well.

#1 They don't list any sources or explain where the numbers come from at all.

#2 They listed Konami... they don't even make 360 games

Those two things suggest that the article might not be 100% on the up and up.

Wow, this is surprising news considering the 4-5 million gap in userbase.

*Gives PS3 a well deserved round of applause*

*Spits on Xbox 360*

#1 They don't list any sources or explain where the numbers come from at all.

#2 They listed Konami... they don't even make 360 games

Those two things suggest that the article might not be 100% on the up and up.

Senor_Kami

sales reports from the developers

(Namco Bandi) http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/ir/result/pdf/20080806_2.pdf

(EA) http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/07/30/ps3-turning-the-corner-by-becoming-eas-top-seller/

(Konami) http://www.konami.co.jp/zaimu/0806/english/supplemental.pdf

(UbiSoft) http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/gallery_files/site/270/1042/1827.pdf?PHPSESSID=a7e7dd6437825b39444ac12d9e61f3ee

You're right about that.

Fact: During this time frame Ubisoft, Konami, Namco Bandi and EA all made more profit on the PS3 compared to the 360.

Spin: It's only because the devs didn't make shooters to please the lemmings.

DarkyC

wow imagine what it will be like when the ps3 actually catches up to the 360micky4889

you mean "IF"

Yep its quite odd how the ps3 is selling more games then its user base odd indeed...can we say sony's padding the numbers like the do in elections?WilliamRLBaker

Yes, Sony's so evil that they can alter the financial reports of other companies and make then think they sold more games than they actually did. The publishers are so dumb that instead of seing they're stock, shiping or receipts they rely on Sony, that has nothing to do with that, to tell them what they sold.:roll:

Also, Sony has all the unicorns locked in a cage, that's why you won't be getting one from Santa this year.

Yet, every monthly chart shows the 360 version of games in the top 10 sellers and PS3 versions are nowhere to be seen. I suspect these numbers to be very dubious considering the source.

ParisSun

Half of their reference links point back to their own blog site. The numbers are completely bogus.. Nice try though.

I believe the attach rates are higher on the 360 so how is the PS3 selling more games with a lower attach rate?Blackbond

They aren't.. just like there is no EA link that says ANYTHING about most of their sales being on the PS3.. If this information were true, we'd be seeing this story on major gaming sites. This is nothing more than Sony Defence Force 1.5.