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http://gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=150728
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#2 sexy_chimp
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Sexy_Chimp: Analysts are idiots and should shut the hell up.
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#3 Erkidu
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Which is idiotic - Nintendo has already said that it is the fastest selling Mario title TO DATE. :lol: at analysts.
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#4 soccer_forever
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500 000 000 units sold worldwide in a week says hi
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#5 sexy_chimp
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He also flat out lied. It sold 1.2 million in its first week. How do people like this get jobs?
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#6 HelixTurnHelix
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Ignorance is rampant these days.
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#7 awsss
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Yeah, I saw this coming. There just aren't enough casuals out there.

EDIT: Holy son of gun there are lots of Nintendo fanboys out there these days -- ah well, SMG's a fun game. Not my 'cup of tea' though.

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#8 Erkidu
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Yeah, I saw this coming. There just aren't enough casuals out there.awsss
Huh? :| The video game market is MAJORITY casual. That's why games like Madden outsell games like SMG.
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#9 XenogearsMaster
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Yeah, it did fail.
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#10 awsss
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[QUOTE="awsss"]Yeah, I saw this coming. There just aren't enough casuals out there.Erkidu
Huh? :| The video game market is MAJORITY casual. That's why games like Madden outsell games like SMG.


Sorry I worded that a little wrong -- there are casuals, but they don't camp out to get their games. And no, there isn't a big casual market compared to 'true' gamers, in the sense that casuals are what they are named: casual. They don't bother getting the games right off because they do not primarily focus on video games.
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#11 Erkidu
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[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="awsss"]Yeah, I saw this coming. There just aren't enough casuals out there.awsss
Huh? :| The video game market is MAJORITY casual. That's why games like Madden outsell games like SMG.


Sorry I worded that a little wrong -- there are casuals, but they don't camp out to get their games. And no, there isn't a big casual market compared to 'true' gamers, in the sense that casuals are what they are named: casual. They don't bother getting the games right off because they do not primarily focus on video games.

You are severely misinformed if you think that hardcore gamers outnumber casual gamers. SEVERELY misinformed. Games like Madden, Halo and Guitar Hero (casual titles) will always outsell games like SMG, MGS and Final Fantasy (core titles).
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#12 Marka1700
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I stoped reading when I sore the word ANALyst.

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#13 i_like_pizza
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Hmmm.... somehow, I don't think selling over (reportedly) over a million within 1 week of release worldwide would be considered a "failure" by most publishers. Whatev.

SMG, by the end of this generation, will break 5 million, and it's actually quite likely that it will break 10 million. Yes. I said it. 10 million.

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#14 Ilived
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500 000 000 units sold worldwide in a week says hisoccer_forever

500,000,000 huh? So I guess most of the people buying it don't realize it won't work with their Super Nintendo or vcr's?

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#15 PSP107
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what makes madden a casual game? I dont understand u ppl logic of video games.

I mean how am i a casual gamer because i owned a PS2?

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#16 hiho24
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Is he new to the industry?

Halo was bound to sell 3+ million copies given its fanbase and the gigantic marketing campaign. Halo 3 sold faster than any other game out there, this isnt a surprise and I'm wondering how he is considered an analyst.

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#17 TheOwnerOner
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Most kiddies dont earn enough with allowance to buy games,

they have to wait for their XMas money to come in.

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#18 Mad_Rhetoric
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500 000 000 units sold worldwide in a week says hisoccer_forever
:lol:
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#19 Art_424
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500 000 000 units sold worldwide in a week says hisoccer_forever

I assume you pulled those numbers from your tush, because every human being would be playing it right now, and thats not the case.

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#20 JiveT
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He was talking about the American market and considering this the best game the Wii will ever see it was a miserable failure.
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#21 awsss
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[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="awsss"]Yeah, I saw this coming. There just aren't enough casuals out there.Erkidu
Huh? :| The video game market is MAJORITY casual. That's why games like Madden outsell games like SMG.


Sorry I worded that a little wrong -- there are casuals, but they don't camp out to get their games. And no, there isn't a big casual market compared to 'true' gamers, in the sense that casuals are what they are named: casual. They don't bother getting the games right off because they do not primarily focus on video games.

You are severely misinformed ifyou think that hardcore gamers outnumber casual gamers. SEVERELY misinformed. Games like Madden, Halo and Guitar Hero (casual titles) will always outsell games like SMG, MGS and Final Fantasy (core titles).


Wow man, you completely missed the point. I didn't say that the hardcores outnumbered the casuals. -- /debate. It's not like I said SMG was a bad game, or not deserving of good sales or anything, because it's a fun game, it truly is. But I prefer the 360's average AAA over the Wii's.
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#22 nyoroism
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500 000 000 units sold worldwide in a week says hisoccer_forever
YES, FIVE-HUNDRED MILLION.
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who cares im still playing

ninty doesnt need money
wii fit sales in japan will make up for lack of smg sales in america
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[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="awsss"]Yeah, I saw this coming. There just aren't enough casuals out there.Erkidu
Huh? :| The video game market is MAJORITY casual. That's why games like Madden outsell games like SMG.


Sorry I worded that a little wrong -- there are casuals, but they don't camp out to get their games. And no, there isn't a big casual market compared to 'true' gamers, in the sense that casuals are what they are named: casual. They don't bother getting the games right off because they do not primarily focus on video games.

You are severely misinformed if you think that hardcore gamers outnumber casual gamers. SEVERELY misinformed. Games like Madden, Halo and Guitar Hero (casual titles) will always outsell games like SMG, MGS and Final Fantasy (core titles).

final fantasy is quite the casual game actually.

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#25 Art_424
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[QUOTE="soccer_forever"]500 000 000 units sold worldwide in a week says hinyoroism
YES, FIVE-HUNDRED MILLION.

First time a game titlesales more than the console itself, amazing, wonder what they will use to play it on?....mmmm:shock:

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#26 i_like_pizza
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He was talking about the American market and considering this the best game the Wii will ever see it was a miserable failure.JiveT

Shadow of the Colossus was arguably the best game that the PS2 ever saw, and it didn't sell all that well. How did that work out for the PS2?

Not every good game sells 1 million copies in the first day/week/month/year. Mario games, traditionally, keep their legs better than nearly any other franchise. As far as I know, SMG has sold faster than any other Mario game to date, and that includes games that sold 12 million, 14 million, 18 million, and 40 million.

Oh, BTW, neither Halo game even came close to touching the 10 million mark. Selling 3 million copies in a week does nothing for you as far as being one of the best sellers of the generation. Games like GTA, Mario, Nintendogs, Pokemon..... the REAL sellers.... get their numbers from their legs.

Go back to noob school. You still have much to learn.

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#27 Erkidu
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[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="awsss"]Yeah, I saw this coming. There just aren't enough casuals out there.awsss
Huh? :| The video game market is MAJORITY casual. That's why games like Madden outsell games like SMG.


Sorry I worded that a little wrong -- there are casuals, but they don't camp out to get their games. And no, there isn't a big casual market compared to 'true' gamers, in the sense that casuals are what they are named: casual. They don't bother getting the games right off because they do not primarily focus on video games.

You are severely misinformed ifyou think that hardcore gamers outnumber casual gamers. SEVERELY misinformed. Games like Madden, Halo and Guitar Hero (casual titles) will always outsell games like SMG, MGS and Final Fantasy (core titles).


Wow man, you completely missed the point. I didn't say that the hardcores outnumbered the casuals. -- /debate. It's not like I said SMG was a bad game, or not deserving of good sales or anything, because it's a fun game, it truly is. But I prefer the 360's average AAA over the Wii's.

This must be one enormous misunderstanding on my part... It's pretty late where I am - pay no attention. :P
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#28 LINKloco
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Why do people continue to post this garbage?
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I thought we didn't play sales???
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#30 sexy_chimp
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How the hell is 750K in America on its first week bad?

What the hell is wrong with you people?

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#31 awsss
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[QUOTE="JiveT"]He was talking about the American market and considering this the best game the Wii will ever see it was a miserable failure.i_like_pizza

Shadow of the Colossus was arguably the best game that the PS2 ever saw, and it didn't sell all that well. How did that work out for the PS2?

Not every good game sells 1 million copies in the first day/week/month/year. Mario games, traditionally, keep their legs better than nearly any other franchise. As far as I know, SMG has sold faster than any other Mario game to date, and that includes games that sold 12 million, 14 million, 18 million, and 40 million.

Oh, BTW, neither Halo game even came close to touching the 10 million mark. Selling 3 million copies in a week does nothing for you as far as being one of the best sellers of the generation. Games like GTA, Mario, Nintendogs, Pokemon..... the REAL sellers.... get their numbers from their legs.

Go back to noob school. You still have much to learn.


Actually it sold close to that in the first 24 hours. -- 4.2 million in it's first week.
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#32 JiveT
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[QUOTE="JiveT"]He was talking about the American market and considering this the best game the Wii will ever see it was a miserable failure.i_like_pizza

Shadow of the Colossus was arguably the best game that the PS2 ever saw, and it didn't sell all that well. How did that work out for the PS2?

Not every good game sells 1 million copies in the first day/week/month/year. Mario games, traditionally, keep their legs better than nearly any other franchise. As far as I know, SMG has sold faster than any other Mario game to date, and that includes games that sold 12 million, 14 million, 18 million, and 40 million.

Oh, BTW, neither Halo game even came close to touching the 10 million mark. Selling 3 million copies in a week does nothing for you as far as being one of the best sellers of the generation. Games like GTA, Mario, Nintendogs, Pokemon..... the REAL sellers.... get their numbers from their legs.

Go back to noob school. You still have much to learn.

Ever hear of the time value of money? A dollar made today is worth more thana dollar made tomorrow. What school did you go to? Oh wait you like Kidtendo probably finishing up second grade by the sound of it. ;) Why you think companies push the pre-orders? You have no idea. That's why this professional analyst is calling it a failure and a sheep is trying to spin it into some kind of triumph.

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#33 Erkidu
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How the hell is 750K in America on its first week bad?

What the hell is wrong with you people?

sexy_chimp
Yea, it's about to hit 2 Million worldwide. This thread fails.
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[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]He was talking about the American market and considering this the best game the Wii will ever see it was a miserable failure.JiveT

Shadow of the Colossus was arguably the best game that the PS2 ever saw, and it didn't sell all that well. How did that work out for the PS2?

Not every good game sells 1 million copies in the first day/week/month/year. Mario games, traditionally, keep their legs better than nearly any other franchise. As far as I know, SMG has sold faster than any other Mario game to date, and that includes games that sold 12 million, 14 million, 18 million, and 40 million.

Oh, BTW, neither Halo game even came close to touching the 10 million mark. Selling 3 million copies in a week does nothing for you as far as being one of the best sellers of the generation. Games like GTA, Mario, Nintendogs, Pokemon..... the REAL sellers.... get their numbers from their legs.

Go back to noob school. You still have much to learn.

Ever hear of the time value of money? A dollar made today is worth more thana dollar made tomorrow. What school did you go to? Oh wait you like Kidtendo probably finishing up second grade by the sound of it. ;) Why you think companies push the pre-orders? You have no idea. That's why this professional analyst is calling it a failure and a sheep is trying to spin it into some kind of triumph.

Kidtendo? YOU SO CLEVER!!! Emoteicons are so mature :P

Edit: You have a freaking Sonic avatar and your gonna bring out the kiddy thing?

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yeah, its only the second fastest selling game this generation. what a failure :roll:

nintendo themselves even stated that it had the highest first week sales of any game in the mario franchise.

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#36 i_like_pizza
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[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]He was talking about the American market and considering this the best game the Wii will ever see it was a miserable failure.JiveT

Shadow of the Colossus was arguably the best game that the PS2 ever saw, and it didn't sell all that well. How did that work out for the PS2?

Not every good game sells 1 million copies in the first day/week/month/year. Mario games, traditionally, keep their legs better than nearly any other franchise. As far as I know, SMG has sold faster than any other Mario game to date, and that includes games that sold 12 million, 14 million, 18 million, and 40 million.

Oh, BTW, neither Halo game even came close to touching the 10 million mark. Selling 3 million copies in a week does nothing for you as far as being one of the best sellers of the generation. Games like GTA, Mario, Nintendogs, Pokemon..... the REAL sellers.... get their numbers from their legs.

Go back to noob school. You still have much to learn.

Ever hear of the time value of money? A dollar made today is worth more thana dollar made tomorrow. What school did you go to? Oh wait you like Kidtendo probably finishing up second grade by the sound of it. ;) Why you think companies push the pre-orders? You have no idea. That's why this professional analyst is calling it a failure and a sheep is trying to spin it into some kind of triumph.

With the average rate of inflation (and the increasing strength of every currency in relation to the dollar), that isn't their concern. Average inflation rates are right around 3%. 3 pennies on the dollar per year.

Would it be "better" to sell 10 million on day 1 rather than 10 million over 5 years? Yes. Are you going to complain about either? No.

Failure? Tell me that when this game passes Halo 3.

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#37 i_like_pizza
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[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]He was talking about the American market and considering this the best game the Wii will ever see it was a miserable failure.awsss

Shadow of the Colossus was arguably the best game that the PS2 ever saw, and it didn't sell all that well. How did that work out for the PS2?

Not every good game sells 1 million copies in the first day/week/month/year. Mario games, traditionally, keep their legs better than nearly any other franchise. As far as I know, SMG has sold faster than any other Mario game to date, and that includes games that sold 12 million, 14 million, 18 million, and 40 million.

Oh, BTW, neither Halo game even came close to touching the 10 million mark. Selling 3 million copies in a week does nothing for you as far as being one of the best sellers of the generation. Games like GTA, Mario, Nintendogs, Pokemon..... the REAL sellers.... get their numbers from their legs.

Go back to noob school. You still have much to learn.


Actually it sold close to that in the first 24 hours. -- 4.2 million in it's first week.

My bad. I was going off of memory.

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#38 irmeleeman5995
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He also flat out lied. It sold 1.2 million in its first week. How do people like this get jobs?sexy_chimp
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#39 TDLlama
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Well, on the upside, he loves the game... but it's already a commercial success.
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#40 hiphops_savior
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It's amazing how much an advertisment campaign can mean the difference between a record breaking sale rate and a disappointing one commercial wise.
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Well it depends, every one in this thread is pulling numbers out of there butts. Does any body have the official numbers? But if that 500,000 in a week is true then that is indeed bad, maybe the best ever for Mario (but then again sorry sheep but your average Mario fan isn't the type to rush out and buy it day one) but over all looking at how some games sell milions in 24 hours that is by comparison, bad, but who cares? Over the wii's life alot of people are going to get it.
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#42 sexy_chimp
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Well it depends, every one in this thread is pulling numbers out of there butts. Does any body have the official numbers? But if that 500,000 in a week is true then that is indeed bad, maybe the best ever for Mario (but then again sorry sheep but your average Mario fan isn't the type to rush out and buy it day one) but over all looking at how some games sell milions in 24 hours that is by comparison, bad, but who cares? Over the wii's life alot of people are going to get it.TrailorParkBoy

750K in America according to the NPD.

250K in Japan and 200K in other according to VGchartz.

That's for the first week in each area.

Right now it's at 1.88 million according to VGchartz.

How is this bad?

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Well it depends, every one in this thread is pulling numbers out of there butts. Does any body have the official numbers? But if that 500,000 in a week is true then that is indeed bad, maybe the best ever for Mario (but then again sorry sheep but your average Mario fan isn't the type to rush out and buy it day one) but over all looking at how some games sell milions in 24 hours that is by comparison, bad, but who cares? Over the wii's life alot of people are going to get it.TrailorParkBoy

the 500, 000 in one week is true (and its for america alone, counting japanese and european sales, the number is well over 1 million)

and no its not bad. mario games have LEGS, meaning they sell well over time. for example, new super mario bros on the ds sold only 180k in its first week in america, and went on to sell 11.5 million copies world wide.mario gamesdon't open big like halo does, but unlike halo, their sales don't just fall flat after the first few weeks.

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#44 Erkidu
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Well it depends, every one in this thread is pulling numbers out of there butts. Does any body have the official numbers? But if that 500,000 in a week is true then that is indeed bad, maybe the best ever for Mario (but then again sorry sheep but your average Mario fan isn't the type to rush out and buy it day one) but over all looking at how some games sell milions in 24 hours that is by comparison, bad, but who cares? Over the wii's life alot of people are going to get it.TrailorParkBoy
You're failing to acknowledge the fact that Nintendo has said that this is the fastest selling Mario title TO DATE. That means that iit is currently on track to outsell Super Mario Bros. 3 - which is the best selling title of all time at 17+ Million copies sold.
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#45 osirisomeomi
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Possible, considering likely increased developmental costs. The Wii isn't really for 'real' games, metroid didn't sell well either. It's more for supercasual games, which have all made lots of money no matter how bad they are.
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#46 locopatho
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Possible, considering likely increased developmental costs. The Wii isn't really for 'real' games, metroid didn't sell well either. It's more for supercasual games, which have allmadelots of money no matter how bad they are.osirisomeomi

Lol no. You can't just make things up. Besides if ultraviolent Resident Evil 4 can sell over a million on Wii, anything can. Maybe Wii fanbase is too hardcore for kiddy Mario :P

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#47 Cyber-
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The game sold fabulously with barely any advertising. Mario games are extremely long lasting and will sell alot.

Halo 3 was EVERWHERE they probabaly spent alot of the profit just advertising.

SMG will sell in stores for the entire generation.

Its sold 2 million already, this guy is a fricken noob.

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#48 WllDan7
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http://gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=150728PSP107

According to your logic every game that wasn't halo 3this year failed. You owned your own self so bad.

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#49 Cyber-
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[QUOTE="osirisomeomi"]Possible, considering likely increased developmental costs. The Wii isn't really for 'real' games, metroid didn't sell well either. It's more for supercasual games, which have allmadelots of money no matter how bad they are.locopatho

Lol no. You can't just make things up. Besides if ultraviolent Resident Evil 4 can sell over a million on Wii, anything can. Maybe Wii fanbase is too hardcore for kiddy Mario :P

dude SMG has sold over 2 million units and its a hardcore game. I dont know where people are getting this but SMG is selling really good.

MP3 has almost sold million, stupidly Nintendo abrely advertised. If they had a better advertising campaign it would have sold much more.

RE4 sold over one million.

Wii could not have sold this much if there was not a very serious hardcore audience.

Seriously what is so bad about 2 million units sold in 3 weeks. LMAO what is wrong with you pweople/

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#50 milsvaard
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It sold 500,000 copies it's first week, that's about 25 million dollars man, if you consider that this game was made for a little over 10 dollars (5 billion yen), it's pretty sweet :lol:. But seriously, that's a lot of money, I'm sure they'll make at least 100 million dollars with that title.