Analyst says PSP success has been distorted.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bryehngeocef"]

And it's put more of a dent in Nintendo's handheld domination than any other system ever. 25 million is nothing to sneeze at...PSP will end up selling more than Xbox or GameCube did.

bryehngeocef

thats what happen when you try to make a all purpose handheld. the main focus should of just been on gaming instead of being a great media device, to take over the Nintendo and Ipod market.

it didn't put a dent though. the DS is sell better than the gba and is constantly sold out.

the psp has good marketshare compared to other competitors in the past but it's not slowing the DS down. and as i said. Many aren't being sold as game systems. thats why game sales are so poor for a 25 million userbase.

in all honesty, software isn't selling because it's really easy to install hacked firmware on PSP. 

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bryehngeocef"]

And it's put more of a dent in Nintendo's handheld domination than any other system ever. 25 million is nothing to sneeze at...PSP will end up selling more than Xbox or GameCube did.

bryehngeocef

it didn't put a dent though. the DS is sell better than the gba and is constantly sold out.

the psp has good marketshare compared to other competitors in the past but it's not slowing the DS down. and as i said. Many aren't being sold as game systems. thats why game sales are so poor for a 25 million userbase.

in all honesty, software isn't selling because it's really easy to install hacked firmware on PSP.

25 million users. you expect me to believe that half or more are running hacked psps? 

[QUOTE="bryehngeocef"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bryehngeocef"]

And it's put more of a dent in Nintendo's handheld domination than any other system ever. 25 million is nothing to sneeze at...PSP will end up selling more than Xbox or GameCube did.

Ontain

it didn't put a dent though. the DS is sell better than the gba and is constantly sold out.

the psp has good marketshare compared to other competitors in the past but it's not slowing the DS down. and as i said. Many aren't being sold as game systems. thats why game sales are so poor for a 25 million userbase.

in all honesty, software isn't selling because it's really easy to install hacked firmware on PSP.

25 million users. you expect me to believe that half or more are running hacked psps?

yes. if not more. i know 6 people with PSPs. I'm the only one that buys games for it, but they all play games. 

[QUOTE="FrenziedRaldo24"]

That's right, because there werent any analysts that predicted a $400+ price tag with poor third-party support, and that it would turn out like the N-Gage:roll:

And Ninty made some claims of their own, Those "Innovative games" we kept hearing about took nearly a year after it's launch to roll in.

cakeorrdeath

What has what Nintendo claimed got to do with anything?

And from my experience the vast majority of analysts and gamers alike were predicting huge things for the PSP and the end of Nintendo's handheld dominance. 

I don't know how you saw it, but I saw it both ways. Yes, there were people who got this impulse that PSP would triumph over the DS and would take over the handheld market. But I saw just as many people who expected it to be trampled over Ninty's handhelds just like every competitor before it, and expected it to sell almost as badly as the N-Gage because for the life of me I couldnt convince anyone that it would cost less than $300.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

25 million users. you expect me to believe that half or more are running hacked psps?

bryehngeocef

yes. if not more. i know 6 people with PSPs. I'm the only one that buys games for it, but they all play games.

I was hoping you wouldn't use anecdotal evidence. we're mostly more knowledgeable about these type of things and have friends that are also. i don't think we're good representations of the average consumer. 

a 50% or more piracy rate would be insanely high. I don't believe it. 

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bryehngeocef"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bryehngeocef"]

And it's put more of a dent in Nintendo's handheld domination than any other system ever. 25 million is nothing to sneeze at...PSP will end up selling more than Xbox or GameCube did.

bryehngeocef

it didn't put a dent though. the DS is sell better than the gba and is constantly sold out.

the psp has good marketshare compared to other competitors in the past but it's not slowing the DS down. and as i said. Many aren't being sold as game systems. thats why game sales are so poor for a 25 million userbase.

in all honesty, software isn't selling because it's really easy to install hacked firmware on PSP.

25 million users. you expect me to believe that half or more are running hacked psps?

yes. if not more. i know 6 people with PSPs. I'm the only one that buys games for it, but they all play games.

The PSP has had only failure.

Failure to launch the UMD format.

 Failure to take the DS market share.

Failure to make any NEED TO HAVE GAMES.

 Failure to sell software.

 It failed to live up to the hype (it got stomped by the DS, contrary to what many thought)

In the same perspective the gamecube did not fail nor did the first X-box. 

The question on this thread is why do people buy the PSP, do that many people really run pirated material and homebrew on it?

The answer is YES.

How can we tell?  Look at the market-- and you'll also see what the true market value of a PSP is! (It's not worth 149.99-- in the markets viewpoint).

Look at your www.craigslist.org PSP postings FOR SALE in larger cities like New York and San Francisco.

People buy them cheap, loaded with "back up " material-- R O MS and don't pay what they are retailed for in stores.  

If you look at the "bright side" 25 million is not too bad and in the "real side" Sony losses money on each PSP sold and dosn't sell software and competitively it is FAILING--HARD.

Look at your www.craigslist.org PSP postings FOR SALE in larger cities like New York and San Francisco.elpoep

but look at the game sales. many psps aren't being bought as a gaming system. partly you have to compare it to the ipod as well.

Ontain

Pirates!

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

I think that the hype surrounding the PSP has had as much effect of the percepti0on of PSP as a failure as DS sales. Sony's claim it would be the next walkman and the like. And every analyst under the sun predicting Nintendo's doom and Sony's domination of the handheld space.

 

It's like with the consoles. If all 3 sold 50 million each two would be considered great success stories the other a relative failure.

Bread_or_Decide

Yeah. Hopefully PSP is starting a good base for the PSP2 to do much better later on.

They still own the handheld market, but the PSP took some of it away from them.-The-G-Man-

Not really when you consider the DS is selling faster than any previous Nintendo Handheld and the GBA is still selling very well.

PSP seems to have had zero effect on Nintendo's sales. 

No,

The DS has sold more units faster than any handheld (even with the so called competition! lol!) even more units than the GBA or gameboy wich had no competition.

By your logic, the N-gage which is still around is a success.   You got a D+ on your report card--great!  Don't discount the success that you passed!

The real slap in the face is that most people buy a PSP for the Nintendo R O MS of Super Mario World! 

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]They still own the handheld market, but the PSP took some of it away from them.cakeorrdeath

Not really when you consider the DS is selling faster than any previous Nintendo Handheld and the GBA is still selling very well.

PSP seems to have had zero effect on Nintendo's sales. 

Maybe not, but no handheld has had even moderate success with Nintendo around until the PSP.

Maybe not, but no handheld has had even moderate success with Nintendo around until the PSP.

-The-G-Man-

I agree with that, just not that the PSP has taken anything away from Nintendo. 

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]They still own the handheld market, but the PSP took some of it away from them.-The-G-Man-

Not really when you consider the DS is selling faster than any previous Nintendo Handheld and the GBA is still selling very well.

PSP seems to have had zero effect on Nintendo's sales.

Maybe not, but no handheld has had even moderate success with Nintendo around until the PSP.

but who's to say it's the gaming portion that is giving it the success rather than the media portion? (certainly not the game sales) with that in mind I think the psp's success in the handheld gaming market might be what is distorted. 

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

Maybe not, but no handheld has had even moderate success with Nintendo around until the PSP.

cakeorrdeath

I agree with that, just not that the PSP has taken anything away from Nintendo. 

Yeah.  Maybe I should have thought that out a bit more.

if the psp suck then why it's getting Final Fantasy Dissidia Tnasty11

ZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZZ... Another Final Fantasy... 

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

Maybe not, but no handheld has had even moderate success with Nintendo around until the PSP.

-The-G-Man-

I agree with that, just not that the PSP has taken anything away from Nintendo.

Yeah. Maybe I should have thought that out a bit more.