Analyst: Xbox One Installed Base Will Equal PS4's In 2015

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#52  Edited By Buckhannah
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Yet it still won't have Bloodborne.

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#53  Edited By MarkAndExecute
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@farrell2k said:

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Thankfully gaming journalists don't see it that way. They're still lagging behind, whether you want to admit it or not. That's why there was an editorial here in Gamespot about Nintendo quietly killing the Wii U. Everyone knows this. Even Nintendo themselves know this. That's why they're changing their strategy. If they've already overtaken then there would be no need for change regarding the Quality of Life platform.

I like how being the only one actually making money is considered "lagging behind" by the brightest of those in system wars...

Too bad all that greedmongering can't buy you into a first place position. Poor Ninty. If we have to compare profits then MS wins since unlike Ninty MS has Windows and their mobile devices to fall back on.

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#55  Edited By Chutebox
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If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

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#56 MikeHockbourns
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@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

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#57  Edited By Chutebox
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@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Yes, but he said they'll be even at years end. That is not happening

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#58 super600  Moderator
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The install bases may eventually end up equal in the US and maybe the UK for both consoles but not worldwide.

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#59  Edited By SolidTy
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@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Last gen, 360 had a one year head-start and price huge price advantage with the 2005 DVD 360 vs. the 2006 Blu-Ray PS3.

This gen they are on very close footing with regards to price and release date (they released a week apart in Nov 2013).

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#60 MikeHockbourns
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@Chutebox said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Yes, but he said they'll be even at years end. That is not happening

if they are anywhere close, its as good as even. after the horrible start from xbox, the fact that they are 13 mill sold is impressive.

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#61 Chutebox
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@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Yes, but he said they'll be even at years end. That is not happening

if they are anywhere close, its as good as even. after the horrible start from xbox, the fact that they are 13 mill sold is impressive.

They won't be close. It's just not going to happen.

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@Chutebox said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Yes, but he said they'll be even at years end. That is not happening

if they are anywhere close, its as good as even. after the horrible start from xbox, the fact that they are 13 mill sold is impressive.

They won't be close. It's just not going to happen.

well, whatever it is. I have both now, and I must say....I am having more fun with the Halo 5 beta than with any game I played on ps4.

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#63 Chutebox
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@mikehockbourns:

Cool, hope you are. Haven't been into Halo since the first. One of my favorite games though :/

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#64 Sagemode87
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@Ghost120x: The Order, Little Big Planet 3, Bloodborne, Let it Die, Uncharted 4 are not exclusives? Let me guess, PS4 doesn't have games? You Lems don't give up on creating that same shit narrative do you?

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@Sagemode87 said:

@Ghost120x: The Order, Little Big Planet 3, Bloodborne, Let it Die, Uncharted 4 are not exclusives? Let me guess, PS4 doesn't have games? You Lems don't give up on creating that same shit narrative do you?

well LBP3 isn't

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#66  Edited By drummerdave9099
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Xbox needs to keep firing back or else this gen is going to be incredibly boring

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#67  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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@Sagemode87 said:

@Ghost120x: The Order, Little Big Planet 3, Bloodborne, Let it Die, Uncharted 4 are not exclusives? Let me guess, PS4 doesn't have games? You Lems don't give up on creating that same shit narrative do you?

In total, it has more games than the one.

"Console exclusives" don't technically count (LBP3, GT6 etc.), but if you include those it has more exclusives. Without those, it has less.

The "no games" statement is bs on both the PS4 and the Xbone. They sell because they have games.

On topic, I'm doubting that will even happen in NA.

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#68 Nengo_Flow
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I strongly doubt that will happen worldwide, but I do believe Xbox will have taken back the lead in America by the end of 2015.

I dont think X1 will overtake the lead in sales for NA by the end of 2015, what I see happening is X1 outselling the PS4 for the holiday 2015. I see M$ doing the same as they did this year, having lots of bundled free games with a reduced priced X1 and HALO 5 hype train.

Yeah I see the X1 out selling the PS4 holiday numbers in NA, but not taking the lead in total sales in NA much less world wide.

I can see it leading the NA total numbers eventually, but no even by that much if it those.

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Well..that dream was probably crushed, in the form of the latest news.

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#70  Edited By MarkAndExecute
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@farrell2k said:

@MarkAndExecute said:

@farrell2k said:

@MarkAndExecute said:

Thankfully gaming journalists don't see it that way. They're still lagging behind, whether you want to admit it or not. That's why there was an editorial here in Gamespot about Nintendo quietly killing the Wii U. Everyone knows this. Even Nintendo themselves know this. That's why they're changing their strategy. If they've already overtaken then there would be no need for change regarding the Quality of Life platform.

I like how being the only one actually making money is considered "lagging behind" by the brightest of those in system wars...

Too bad all that greedmongering can't buy you into a first place position. Poor Ninty. If we have to compare profits then MS wins since unlike Ninty MS has Windows and their mobile devices to fall back on.

Uh, I really hate to break it to you, but the one actually making money with the best exclusive content money can buy is in first place. Every Generation Nintendo has shone above the pc clone consoles, and this gen is no different.

Do you touch yourself everytime you look at Nintendo's balance sheets? They're still dead last and all that money isn't doing a single thing in bringing them out of the rut they're stuck in, but yeah keep fooling yourself into believing they're first place because even Nintendo admits they're lagging behind and Iwata would be just laughing at your face if you believe the shit you spew since you're contradicting him. I don't care for Nintendo exclusives so all that money is worthless to most people if it isn't getting them what they want which is why most don't take them seriously and it looks like this year is gonna be a drought. Besides only corporate shills and blind fanboys care about profits, which is actually pretty sad really.

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#72 MarkAndExecute
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@farrell2k said:

Nope. I just enjoy the best exclusive content money can buy.

I doubt that honestly...you seem to spend more time talking BS on these boards than playing your "best exclusive content."

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#74  Edited By MarkAndExecute
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@farrell2k said:

@MarkAndExecute said:

I doubt that honestly...you seem to spend more time talking BS on these boards than playing your "best exclusive content."

Well, you see, the problem is that Nintendo content is so fantastic, revolutionary, and industry-defining, that playing it too much in one sitting will literally explode your face with awesomeness, so it's important to take breaks once in a while.

I bet those breaks take way longer than your gameplay sessions lol....that's hundreds of dollars well spent.

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@Scipio8 said:

LOL I know cows lack reading and comprehension skills but please make an effort

@ghostwarrior786 said:

lol the analyst i believe is patchter

Recently, well known industry analyst Michael Pachter stated that PlayStation 4 will continue its lead over Xbox One in 2015 all thanks to "Phenomenal Exclusive Line-Up" and Microsoft will announce another (second) price cut for Xbox One (considering the fact that Xbox One will start selling at $399 price point after Jan 2). There is another analyst (Independent) who thinks this is not going to be the case, and he is "Billy Pidgeon".

You are aware that XBOX one already has a "Phenomenal Exclusive Line-Up" and is still failing to keep up with the PS4.

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#76  Edited By kinectthedots
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@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

lol context and relevance failure.

1. last gen 360 was on the market for one full year with NO competition (nintendo or Sony).

2. last gen PS3 launched at $600 USD.

3. last gen PS3 OUTSOULD 360 WW EVERY year till 2011!!!

lol bu but last gen. The only situation for MS that reflects or is even close to the situation Sony was in last gen is that they released a system at a higher price than their competitors. The systems being released at the same time and MS NOT leading in WW sales out the gate shows how dumb it is to even make a comparison to last gen.

Take your meds, you just made one of the most idiotic and unrealistic comparisons ever seen by man haha.

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Was this prediction made on Comedy Central?

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Has Billy The Pigeon dropped anymore nuggets of wisdom today?

Is he expecting a new Sega console with Shenmue 3 as a launch game this year?

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#80 SecretPolice
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Pfft, keep wishing cow, X1 will not just equal but will indeed surpass PS4 by a billion or two once China gets a taste of that X1 yumminess. :P

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@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Yes, but he said they'll be even at years end. That is not happening

if they are anywhere close, its as good as even. after the horrible start from xbox, the fact that they are 13 mill sold is impressive.

What makes you think Xbox One is at 13 million sold? The last announcement was they would soon hit 10 million shipped and that was mid November so would cover the majority of their holiday shipments too (it takes a while to transport stuff from china to other places you see), even if they still had 1 million units to ship before year end that would put their shipped figure between 10.5 and 11 million as of now so chances are sold is going to be around the 9 - 10 million mark.

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#82  Edited By MikeHockbourns
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@kinectthedots said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

lol context and relevance failure.

1. last gen 360 was on the market for one full year with NO competition (nintendo or Sony).

2. last gen PS3 launched at $600 USD.

3. last gen PS3 OUTSOULD 360 WW EVERY year till 2011!!!

lol bu but last gen. The only situation for MS that reflects or is even close to the situation Sony was in last gen is that they released a system at a higher price than their competitors. The systems being released at the same time and MS NOT leading in WW sales out the gate shows how dumb it is to even make a comparison to last gen.

Take your meds, you just made one of the most idiotic and unrealistic comparisons ever seen by man haha.

excuses excuses excuses. look how mad you're getting defending a piece of plastic. this site gets more sad every day.

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#83 lostrib
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@kinectthedots: the meltdown is strong with this one

Take a chill pill

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@btk2k2 said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Yes, but he said they'll be even at years end. That is not happening

if they are anywhere close, its as good as even. after the horrible start from xbox, the fact that they are 13 mill sold is impressive.

What makes you think Xbox One is at 13 million sold? The last announcement was they would soon hit 10 million shipped and that was mid November so would cover the majority of their holiday shipments too (it takes a while to transport stuff from china to other places you see), even if they still had 1 million units to ship before year end that would put their shipped figure between 10.5 and 11 million as of now so chances are sold is going to be around the 9 - 10 million mark.

keep dreaming. and stop hating. they sold around 1.5 mill in november, and most likely 1.5 -2 mill in december. thats about 3.5 million added to the 10 mill before november. Safe to say they are at 13 million.

why the anger and jealousy? I though ps4 is at 18.5 mill?

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#85  Edited By blackace
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@freedomfreak said:

You know, I like the name Billy Pidgeon.

Bruce Eagle.

Frederick Owl

John Parrot

More like. Kind of looks like a pidgeon.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/billypidgeon

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#86 freedomfreak
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@blackace said:

More like. Kind of looks like a pidgeon.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/billypidgeon

He looks happy.

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@mikehockbourns said:

@btk2k2 said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Yes, but he said they'll be even at years end. That is not happening

if they are anywhere close, its as good as even. after the horrible start from xbox, the fact that they are 13 mill sold is impressive.

What makes you think Xbox One is at 13 million sold? The last announcement was they would soon hit 10 million shipped and that was mid November so would cover the majority of their holiday shipments too (it takes a while to transport stuff from china to other places you see), even if they still had 1 million units to ship before year end that would put their shipped figure between 10.5 and 11 million as of now so chances are sold is going to be around the 9 - 10 million mark.

keep dreaming. and stop hating. they sold around 1.5 mill in november, and most likely 1.5 -2 mill in december. thats about 3.5 million added to the 10 mill before november. Safe to say they are at 13 million.

why the anger and jealousy? I though ps4 is at 18.5 mill?

On 12th of November they said they would reach 10 million consoles shipped 'soon'. That shipped figure will include all the units that got sold in November and probably some that were sold in early December as a portion of that number is made up of units that are in transit to stores and another portion is made up of stock on store shelves that has not been sold to consumers yet.

On 3rd of December they had a shareholders meeting and stated they had reached 10 million consoles shipped which means that as of December 3rd the most they could have sold is ~ 10 million, although that would in reality be impossible as again, that number would include units in transit and units on store shelves.

Given those pieces of information it means that units sold to consumers as of December 3rd is defiantly less than 10 million. Exactly how much less depends on how much stock is still on shelves and how much is in transit, considering it is December and they would likely want to keep stock flowing into stores before the 25th so there could easily be between 2 and 3 million units in stock and in transit world wide. That would put sold through at between 7 and 8 million, for them to reach 10 million units sold by now they would have had to sell anywhere between 1.3 and 1.95 million in the USA in December. I can see the lower end figure being possible but the top end figure seems a bit of a stretch.

There is absolutely no chance they are anywhere close to the 13 million mark, I doubt they are above 11 and it is entirely possible they have not cracked 10 yet.

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#88  Edited By MikeHockbourns
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@btk2k2 said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@btk2k2 said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@Chutebox said:

If he means WW, dude is psycho. No chance that happens.

last gen they were equal WW.

Yes, but he said they'll be even at years end. That is not happening

if they are anywhere close, its as good as even. after the horrible start from xbox, the fact that they are 13 mill sold is impressive.

What makes you think Xbox One is at 13 million sold? The last announcement was they would soon hit 10 million shipped and that was mid November so would cover the majority of their holiday shipments too (it takes a while to transport stuff from china to other places you see), even if they still had 1 million units to ship before year end that would put their shipped figure between 10.5 and 11 million as of now so chances are sold is going to be around the 9 - 10 million mark.

keep dreaming. and stop hating. they sold around 1.5 mill in november, and most likely 1.5 -2 mill in december. thats about 3.5 million added to the 10 mill before november. Safe to say they are at 13 million.

why the anger and jealousy? I though ps4 is at 18.5 mill?

On 12th of November they said they would reach 10 million consoles shipped 'soon'. That shipped figure will include all the units that got sold in November and probably some that were sold in early December as a portion of that number is made up of units that are in transit to stores and another portion is made up of stock on store shelves that has not been sold to consumers yet.

On 3rd of December they had a shareholders meeting and stated they had reached 10 million consoles shipped which means that as of December 3rd the most they could have sold is ~ 10 million, although that would in reality be impossible as again, that number would include units in transit and units on store shelves.

Given those pieces of information it means that units sold to consumers as of December 3rd is defiantly less than 10 million. Exactly how much less depends on how much stock is still on shelves and how much is in transit, considering it is December and they would likely want to keep stock flowing into stores before the 25th so there could easily be between 2 and 3 million units in stock and in transit world wide. That would put sold through at between 7 and 8 million, for them to reach 10 million units sold by now they would have had to sell anywhere between 1.3 and 1.95 million in the USA in December. I can see the lower end figure being possible but the top end figure seems a bit of a stretch.

There is absolutely no chance they are anywhere close to the 13 million mark, I doubt they are above 11 and it is entirely possible they have not cracked 10 yet.

ok we'll see

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#89 GrenadeLauncher
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Man I feel sorry for Billy the Pigeon considering recent developments.

@mikehockbourns said:

keep dreaming. and stop hating. they sold around 1.5 mill in november, and most likely 1.5 -2 mill in december. thats about 3.5 million added to the 10 mill before november. Safe to say they are at 13 million.

why the anger and jealousy? I though ps4 is at 18.5 mill?

They were at less than 10 million in November, clever clogs.

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#90 Malta_1980
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Well with another price-cut, along a huge reduction of 3rd Party support on PS4 & Sony closing all 1st party studios it is a possibility LOL

Seriously while its a possibility since both consoles seem to be picking up in terms of games libraries, I don't think it would happen this year, unless we're just taking only NA market into consideration.. Worldwide sales for PS4 are doing fine and its line-up for 2015 is way better compared to 2014..

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#91 MikeHockbourns
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

Man I feel sorry for Billy the Pigeon considering recent developments.

@mikehockbourns said:

keep dreaming. and stop hating. they sold around 1.5 mill in november, and most likely 1.5 -2 mill in december. thats about 3.5 million added to the 10 mill before november. Safe to say they are at 13 million.

why the anger and jealousy? I though ps4 is at 18.5 mill?

They were at less than 10 million in November, clever clogs.

10 mill, with 3-3.5 over the holiday season. safely at 13 mill.

why the anger and jealousy though?

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#92  Edited By Shibua
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Off course it will, have you seen PS4's line up of games this year, Sony are more focused on indie

X1 will dominate PS4 every month this year with titles like

Quantum Break

Sunset Overdrive

Titanfall

halo MCC

Forza 5

Forza Horizon 2

Ryse

Dead Rising 3

Halo 5

Gears of War 4

Crackdown 3

Fable legends

Rise of the Tombraider

Scalebound

Phantom Dust

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#93  Edited By jsmoke03
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maybe in america...worldwide is a different story.

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@mikehockbourns said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Man I feel sorry for Billy the Pigeon considering recent developments.

@mikehockbourns said:

keep dreaming. and stop hating. they sold around 1.5 mill in november, and most likely 1.5 -2 mill in december. thats about 3.5 million added to the 10 mill before november. Safe to say they are at 13 million.

why the anger and jealousy? I though ps4 is at 18.5 mill?

They were at less than 10 million in November, clever clogs.

10 mill, with 3-3.5 over the holiday season. safely at 13 mill.

why the anger and jealousy though?

Another victim of Microsoft's clever PR spin. They were not at 10 million sold during November. They hadn't even shipped 10 million at that point.

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@kratosyoloswag said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Man I feel sorry for Billy the Pigeon considering recent developments.

@mikehockbourns said:

keep dreaming. and stop hating. they sold around 1.5 mill in november, and most likely 1.5 -2 mill in december. thats about 3.5 million added to the 10 mill before november. Safe to say they are at 13 million.

why the anger and jealousy? I though ps4 is at 18.5 mill?

They were at less than 10 million in November, clever clogs.

10 mill, with 3-3.5 over the holiday season. safely at 13 mill.

why the anger and jealousy though?

Another victim of Microsoft's clever PR spin. They were not at 10 million sold during November. They hadn't even shipped 10 million at that point.

well, we'll see when the december npd rolls out. why all the anger though? lol

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#96 KratosYOLOSwag
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@mikehockbourns said:

@kratosyoloswag said:

@mikehockbourns said:

10 mill, with 3-3.5 over the holiday season. safely at 13 mill.

why the anger and jealousy though?

Another victim of Microsoft's clever PR spin. They were not at 10 million sold during November. They hadn't even shipped 10 million at that point.

well, we'll see when the december npd rolls out. why all the anger though? lol

I already see, there's nothing left to see. Why not all the anger though?

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#97 MikeHockbourns
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@kratosyoloswag said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@kratosyoloswag said:

@mikehockbourns said:

10 mill, with 3-3.5 over the holiday season. safely at 13 mill.

why the anger and jealousy though?

Another victim of Microsoft's clever PR spin. They were not at 10 million sold during November. They hadn't even shipped 10 million at that point.

well, we'll see when the december npd rolls out. why all the anger though? lol

I already see, there's nothing left to see. Why not all the anger though?

you don't see shit, except blind hate and anger.

:)

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@mikehockbourns said:

10 mill, with 3-3.5 over the holiday season. safely at 13 mill.

why the anger and jealousy though?

Read the PR, mate. They said they were at less than 10 million shipped. DISASTER.

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@GrenadeLauncher said:

@mikehockbourns said:

10 mill, with 3-3.5 over the holiday season. safely at 13 mill.

why the anger and jealousy though?

Read the PR, mate. They said they were at less than 10 million shipped. DISASTER.

They probably sold around 2-3mil in usa and 1mil in Europe (november + december), so they can easily be around 13mil

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#100 GrenadeLauncher
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@FastRobby said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@mikehockbourns said:

10 mill, with 3-3.5 over the holiday season. safely at 13 mill.

why the anger and jealousy though?

Read the PR, mate. They said they were at less than 10 million shipped. DISASTER.

They probably sold around 2-3mil in usa and 1mil in Europe (november + december), so they can easily be around 13mil

Bruh the Xbone is D-E-A-D in Europe. I'm gonna say 2.3 million in NA and 300-400k in UK. Negligible numbers everywhere else. Sub-10 million shipped in November so I'm gonna go with 11 million.

We'll know in a few weeks when they release the quarterlies and we can extrapolate some numbers