AnandTech: Xbox ONE vs PS4 - Hardware Comparison

[QUOTE="hoosier7"]

 [QUOTE="shawn30"] Xbox had better specs than PS2 - PS3 had better specs than Xbox 360 - specs - Crysis looks incredible when maxed out on a monster PC - but most feel the game is average at best. Developers make great games not specs. So Im interested in what the devs show me and not numbers on a flow chart. I can't play those numbers.shawn30

Sony have the likes of ND, Media Molecule, Rockstar and Squeenix working on exclusives.

Hardcore gamers made Xbox what it is today and MS is sh!tting all over themMystery_Writer

Indeed. I have bought 2 360s (first one broke, not rrod). Countless games. I sold my 360 about 1,5 year ago, because microsoft has been screwing me. And xbone looks like horsesh*t compared to ps4. At E3 I will see if microsoft values casual kinect crowd more than people who want games like gow, uncharted, skyrim, the witcher etc = core games - exclusive ones.

It's all about the games. The hardware is pretty close. XBox One will DirectX 11, so lets see what they can do with that. Just give me some exclusive games with great game play and decent graphics.blackace

The hardware being "Pretty Close" in one way of describing this situation.  Most would opt for "Not very close" however.  

Don't know if it was already posted but here's another article about the same thing:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one

This hardware reveal did little to entice me to buy the Xbox One. To be honest, I have little interest in the TV features, Make no mistake they are cool. I will however, reserve judgment on the games that they will show at E3. I'm not to happy about the used game situation though. That may kill my potential purchase of the system. I will be getting a PS4, but Microsoft has to wow me to buy their offering. Again just waiting to see what is shown at E3.

Playstation 4 is clearly more powerful, this time around! Is there any confirmation of how many of those PS4's 8GB GDDR5 are dedicated to games?

Juicy bits: "Heres where things start to get a bit controversial. Sony opted for an 18 Compute Unit GCN configuration, totaling 1152 shader processors/cores/ALUs. Microsoft went for a far smaller configuration: 768 (12 CUs). Microsoft cant make up the difference in clock speed alone (AMDs GCN seems to top out around 1GHz on 28nm), and based on current leaks it looks like both MS and Sony are running their GPUs at the same 800MHz clock. The result is a 33% reductionin compute power, from 1.84 TFLOPs in the PS4 to 1.23 TFLOPs in the Xbox One."

 

"theres no escaping the fact that Microsoft has given the Xbox One less GPU hardware than Sony gave the PlayStation 4."

hoosier7

It's all about the games. The hardware is pretty close. XBox One will DirectX 11, so lets see what they can do with that. Just give me some exclusive games with great game play and decent graphics.blackace

[QUOTE="hoosier7"]

Juicy bits: "Heres where things start to get a bit controversial. Sony opted for an 18 Compute Unit GCN configuration, totaling 1152 shader processors/cores/ALUs. Microsoft went for a far smaller configuration: 768 (12 CUs). Microsoft cant make up the difference in clock speed alone (AMDs GCN seems to top out around 1GHz on 28nm), and based on current leaks it looks like both MS and Sony are running their GPUs at the same 800MHz clock. The result is a 33% reductionin compute power, from 1.84 TFLOPs in the PS4 to 1.23 TFLOPs in the Xbox One."

 

"theres no escaping the fact that Microsoft has given the Xbox One less GPU hardware than Sony gave the PlayStation 4."

Tessellation

Sony built the best console ever, in terms of its efficiency, power, and overall design. It has such a huge power advantage over the Xbox One that it will absolutely dominate in terms of exclusives and multiplats.

It made my decision pretty easy. I am going to go with the PS4 as my main platform next generation. I was considering upgrading my PC and just playing exclusives on the PS4, but it's now become clear that the PS4 is going to do extremely well with multiplats and the graphical advantage of playing on PC isn't worth it to me personally when weighed against other considerations. I'll still keep my current PC to play the occasional PC exclusive or multiplat that doesn't come to PS4, but the PS4 will get 90% of my time.

[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="shawn30"] I agree with you, only when I buy my Xbox One I'm gonna have 85% of the games you do and 15 you won't have. So for me Xbox One as a gaming console is rock solid, and it offers other stuff Im interested in as well. But games for me are number 1 and MS has done a great job garnering support and exclusives and even 8 new IP's this time. Plus Halo and Gears next gen are coming. Both the PS4 and Xbox One will be great gaming consoles IMHO.StrongBlackVine

Are you an idiot? Xbox One will not have 15 exclusives by January 2014. Within the year doesn't mean what you thought.

So the PS4 is slighty more powerful

EPaul

Uh, 50% more GPU performance, massive memory bandwidth advantage, more flexible memory architecture, likely much smaller OS footprint (i.e. more usable RAM), and potentially more CPU performance does not add up to only "slightly more powerful". The power difference is huge. I don't think we have ever seen such a big difference between competing consoles, except for possibly the Xbox to PS2 performance gap.

Why is no one talking about latency? Thats a huge issue in game development...navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Why is no one talking about latency? Thats a huge issue in game development...PraetorianMan

[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Why is no one talking about latency? Thats a huge issue in game development...navyguy21

You are forgetting the edram can push the memory bandwidth higher. Also Cloud Computing it going to push the Xbox One a lot higher in TFLOPS.

It's pretty silly that the X-Blows gpu is 33% weaker than the ps4's reported one.

I'm not expecting too big of a gap in early multiplats, but the games later on might definitely have some differences, Sony's machine is all around more powerful with none of the weird cell architecture.

[QUOTE="EPaul"]

So the PS4 is slighty more powerful

avshaman

Uh, 50% more GPU performance, massive memory bandwidth advantage, more flexible memory architecture, likely much smaller OS footprint (i.e. more usable RAM), and potentially more CPU performance does not add up to only "slightly more powerful". The power difference is huge. I don't think we have ever seen such a big difference between competing consoles, except for possibly the Xbox to PS2 performance gap.

First it's not 50% more GPU performance. second the Edram gives the Xbox One a massive memory bandwidth boast so its not as wide as you think its going to be. Sure the PS4 OS is going to use less ram but I think it's going to need as least 1gb min for all the features to run smoothly.

It's pretty silly that the X-Blows gpu is 33% weaker than the ps4's reported one.

I'm not expecting too big of a gap in early multiplats, but the games later on might definitely have some differences, Sony's machine is all around more powerful with none of the weird cell architecture.

ReadingRainbow4

I heard that the Xbox One is going to use Cloud Computing.

You are forgetting the edram can push the memory bandwidth higher. Also Cloud Computing it going to push the Xbox One a lot higher in TFLOPS.

xhawk27

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

It's pretty silly that the X-Blows gpu is 33% weaker than the ps4's reported one.

I'm not expecting too big of a gap in early multiplats, but the games later on might definitely have some differences, Sony's machine is all around more powerful with none of the weird cell architecture.

xhawk27

I heard that the Xbox One is going to use Cloud Computing.

You are forgetting the edram can push the memory bandwidth higher. Also Cloud Computing it going to push the Xbox One a lot higher in TFLOPS.

xhawk27

[QUOTE="avshaman"]

[QUOTE="EPaul"]

So the PS4 is slighty more powerful

xhawk27

Uh, 50% more GPU performance, massive memory bandwidth advantage, more flexible memory architecture, likely much smaller OS footprint (i.e. more usable RAM), and potentially more CPU performance does not add up to only "slightly more powerful". The power difference is huge. I don't think we have ever seen such a big difference between competing consoles, except for possibly the Xbox to PS2 performance gap.

First it's not 50% more GPU performance. second the Edram gives the Xbox One a massive memory bandwidth boast so its not as wide as you think its going to be. Sure the PS4 OS is going to use less ram but I think it's going to need as least 1gb min for all the features to run smoothly.

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="avshaman"]

Uh, 50% more GPU performance, massive memory bandwidth advantage, more flexible memory architecture, likely much smaller OS footprint (i.e. more usable RAM), and potentially more CPU performance does not add up to only "slightly more powerful". The power difference is huge. I don't think we have ever seen such a big difference between competing consoles, except for possibly the Xbox to PS2 performance gap.

tormentos

First it's not 50% more GPU performance. second the Edram gives the Xbox One a massive memory bandwidth boast so its not as wide as you think its going to be. Sure the PS4 OS is going to use less ram but I think it's going to need as least 1gb min for all the features to run smoothly.

Wait isn't that onlive.? But the PS4 has Genkay.? So would sony raise the TF as well on the PS4.? By the way doesn't that requires always online.?tormentos

Geikai and onlive are complete different from the cloud compute MS and Google are using.

The Wii U has 600 GF-650s. The Xbox one has 1.2 TF. The PS4 has 1.8 TF. This is just the gpu.

The Wii U has 1 gb DDR3, the xbox one has 5 gb DDR3, PS4 has 7 gb GDDR5 which runs at 2.8X the speed.

The Wii U has 8 rops, the Xbox one has 16 ROPS, and the PS4 has 32 ROPS

The Wii U CPU is significantly weaker than Xbox one and PS4. Should be noted

The ps4 is about as much more powerful than xbox one is to wii u. People telling you that you can't tell the difference between xbox one and ps4. Well you shouldn't be able to tell the difference between Wii-U and Xbox one going by that logic...

The Wii U has 600 GFs. The Xbox one has 1.2 TF. The PS4 has 1.8 TF. This is just the gpu.

The Wii U has 1 gb DDR3, the xbox one has 5 gb DDR3, PS4 has 7 gb GDDR5 which runs at 1.8X the speed.

The Wii U has 8 rops, the Xbox one has 16 ROPS, and the PS4 has 32 ROPS

The Wii U CPU is significantly weaker than Xbox one and PS4. Should be noted

The ps4 is about as much more powerful than xbox one is to wii u

nhh18

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

The Wii U has 600 GFs. The Xbox one has 1.2 TF. The PS4 has 1.8 TF. This is just the gpu.

The Wii U has 1 gb DDR3, the xbox one has 5 gb DDR3, PS4 has 7 gb GDDR5 which runs at 1.8X the speed.

The Wii U has 8 rops, the Xbox one has 16 ROPS, and the PS4 has 32 ROPS

The Wii U CPU is significantly weaker than Xbox one and PS4. Should be noted

The ps4 is about as much more powerful than xbox one is to wii u

navyguy21

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

The Wii U has 600 GFs. The Xbox one has 1.2 TF. The PS4 has 1.8 TF. This is just the gpu.

The Wii U has 1 gb DDR3, the xbox one has 5 gb DDR3, PS4 has 7 gb GDDR5 which runs at 2.8X the speed.

The Wii U has 8 rops, the Xbox one has 16 ROPS, and the PS4 has 32 ROPS

The Wii U CPU is significantly weaker than Xbox one and PS4. Should be noted

The ps4 is about as much more powerful than xbox one is to wii u

navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="nhh18"]

The Wii U has 600 GFs. The Xbox one has 1.2 TF. The PS4 has 1.8 TF. This is just the gpu.

The Wii U has 1 gb DDR3, the xbox one has 5 gb DDR3, PS4 has 7 gb GDDR5 which runs at 1.8X the speed.

The Wii U has 8 rops, the Xbox one has 16 ROPS, and the PS4 has 32 ROPS

The Wii U CPU is significantly weaker than Xbox one and PS4. Should be noted

The ps4 is about as much more powerful than xbox one is to wii u

Cali3350

[QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] That RAM number for XB One isnt correct. The OS doesnt use 3GBnavyguy21

Hasn't been denied either.

You are forgetting the edram can push the memory bandwidth higher. Also Cloud Computing it going to push the Xbox One a lot higher in TFLOPS.

 

xhawk27

You really have no idea what you are talking about

Cloud computing doesn't seem like it will fill a hardware gap.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="nhh18"]

The Wii U has 600 GFs. The Xbox one has 1.2 TF. The PS4 has 1.8 TF. This is just the gpu.

The Wii U has 1 gb DDR3, the xbox one has 5 gb DDR3, PS4 has 7 gb GDDR5 which runs at 1.8X the speed.

The Wii U has 8 rops, the Xbox one has 16 ROPS, and the PS4 has 32 ROPS

The Wii U CPU is significantly weaker than Xbox one and PS4. Should be noted

The ps4 is about as much more powerful than xbox one is to wii u

Cali3350

*smh*

I said to myself there's no way that the X1's OS footprint is a whopping 3 GGB.  I figured 1.5 GGB tops.  Now with it all but confirmed by a MS executive.............

I am truly disgusted.  I was semi-curious about the 8 new IP's, now I couldn't give a shit. 

Cloud computing doesn't seem like it will fill a hardware gap.

ReadingRainbow4

I bet it starts next gen.

I dont find the hardware of the new xbox and ps4 to be impressive but the PS4 looks to be a little bit more powerful than the xbox one(man do i hate that name)redskins26rocs

You should know better than that. It's A LOT more powerful than the Xbox One. 

Cloud computing doesn't seem like it will fill a hardware gap.

ReadingRainbow4

It won't. If it could then it would have been done already like on PC or something. I can't see it helping at all