And in come the US KZ2 numbers for April....

[QUOTE="lhughey"]i hate to sound like a broken record, but there are too many PS3 owners not buying games. Why is that? I really think a lot of people are getting the machine for a bluRay player. Look at these number (they are coming from vgchartz, BUT they are historical numbers and not prediction numbers. VGChartz does a pretty good job with historical numbers). The 360 has 61 million+ selling games with 148m copies sold (from those 62 games) the PS3 has 31 million+ selling games with 66m copies sold (from those 31 games) That is a huge difference considering the the 360 was released just 1 year earlier than the PS3. Bread_or_Decide

well the 360 is slightly under 10 million ahead right now, it does but at the same time the ps3 should have 2/3 the million+ sold games as the 360, not half

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

so your saying theres no multiplats that sell about even on the ps3 and 360?

hyperboy152000

beyond what has been posted on the front page of gamespot when devs like rock* or capcom (with DMC4) say the games sold 50/50 then i can only look to vgchartz which i still will not use

but for the software growth of 80 percent for 08 heres the link http://kotaku.com/5253450/ps3-software-sales-spiked-almost-80-percent

ok so it was almost 80 percent

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

yea i wonder what happened to the 1.1 million pre-sales in europe... maybe they all got abducted by ufo's :o

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]They are supposed to hype their products and sales (as a business) , and they were't hyping customer pre-order sales ..... just sales. They got paid and they are proud of that ..... why does this hurt you so ?

Nike_Air

[QUOTE="lhughey"]i hate to sound like a broken record, but there are too many PS3 owners not buying games. Why is that? I really think a lot of people are getting the machine for a bluRay player. Look at these number (they are coming from vgchartz, BUT they are historical numbers and not prediction numbers. VGChartz does a pretty good job with historical numbers). The 360 has 61 million+ selling games with 148m copies sold (from those 62 games) the PS3 has 31 million+ selling games with 66m copies sold (from those 31 games) That is a huge difference considering the the 360 was released just 1 year earlier than the PS3. Bread_or_Decide

But it also sold less than Re5 Ps3 (being a much better game). It wasn't unreasonable to expect Gears 1 level of sales.

Why does everyone think KZ2 sales are bad? I'm sure the good folks who made Okami would love to have those numbers. Same with GTA: Chinatown wars. KZ2 is a great game and I can see it reaching 2 million by June, maybe even 3-4 million buy the end of the year.clubsammich91

its not that they are bad, its that they are below expectations. especially for a game with so much advertising as kz2... okami had nowhere near the same amount of advertising.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"] wtf are you talking about. who got paid? and no, it isn't any PR departments job to hype beyond projections and spew BS. it's their job to create hype, not lie about it. thx.3picuri3

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"] first, you spoke in a generalization, as if to say all multiplats perform roughly the same, second - not that i'm aware of. but hey, if you're saying that in here and throwing out 80% figures you must have a link, right? 3picuri3

beyond what has been posted on the front page of gamespot when devs like rock* or capcom (with DMC4) say the games sold 50/50 then i can only look to vgchartz which i still will not use

but for the software growth of 80 percent for 08 heres the link http://kotaku.com/5253450/ps3-software-sales-spiked-almost-80-percent

ok so it was almost 80 percent

well if your willing to agree with one person ho uses vgchartz then fine, res 5 is at 2 million (ps3) and 1.85 on the 360, SFIV is at 1.16 milion for ps3 and just under 1 million for 360, for games released before this year, as i said DMC4 sold more on ps3, SC4 actually sold more on the 360 by .1 million, GTA4 has 1.4 million more on the 360 so i as wrong about that (but still rly close)

and 2007 sales (games) for all consoles for were all but abysmal COD4 halo 3 amongst many other games made that year the opposite of abysmal

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Why does everyone think KZ2 sales are bad? I'm sure the good folks who made Okami would love to have those numbers. Same with GTA: Chinatown wars. KZ2 is a great game and I can see it reaching 2 million by June, maybe even 3-4 million buy the end of the year.ogvampire

its not that they are bad, its that they are below expectations. especially for a game with so much advertising as kz2... okami had nowhere near the same amount of advertising.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Why does everyone think KZ2 sales are bad? I'm sure the good folks who made Okami would love to have those numbers. Same with GTA: Chinatown wars. KZ2 is a great game and I can see it reaching 2 million by June, maybe even 3-4 million buy the end of the year.clubsammich91

its not that they are bad, its that they are below expectations. especially for a game with so much advertising as kz2... okami had nowhere near the same amount of advertising.

maybe some that actually showed the actual game!

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]They sold 1.1 million copies of Killzone 2 to retailers in Europe (that we know of). They got paid , that is the fact.

Nike_Air

EDIT and why I might add I think VGC is an awful place for news as well as sales numbers.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Why does everyone think KZ2 sales are bad? I'm sure the good folks who made Okami would love to have those numbers. Same with GTA: Chinatown wars. KZ2 is a great game and I can see it reaching 2 million by June, maybe even 3-4 million buy the end of the year.clubsammich91

its not that they are bad, its that they are below expectations. especially for a game with so much advertising as kz2... okami had nowhere near the same amount of advertising.

true, but pretty much every game except for Halo3 could use more advertising

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

its not that they are bad, its that they are below expectations. especially for a game with so much advertising as kz2... okami had nowhere near the same amount of advertising.

hyperboy152000

maybe some that actually showed the actual game!

not really, the original Gears had an awesome commercial which didnt show any gameplay, but its sales were spectacular

[QUOTE="lhughey"]i hate to sound like a broken record, but there are too many PS3 owners not buying games. Why is that? I really think a lot of people are getting the machine for a bluRay player. Look at these number (they are coming from vgchartz, BUT they are historical numbers and not prediction numbers. VGChartz does a pretty good job with historical numbers). The 360 has 61 million+ selling games with 148m copies sold (from those 62 games) the PS3 has 31 million+ selling games with 66m copies sold (from those 31 games) That is a huge difference considering the the 360 was released just 1 year earlier than the PS3. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]I thought KZ2 could have used more adverts as well.ogvampire

maybe some that actually showed the actual game!

not really, the original Gears had an awesome commercial which didnt show any gameplay, but its sales were spectacular

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]I thought KZ2 could have used more adverts as well.ogvampire

maybe some that actually showed the actual game!

not really, the original Gears had an awesome commercial which didnt show any gameplay, but its sales were spectacular

and? atleast it was ingame that they showed

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

maybe some that actually showed the actual game!

hyperboy152000

not really, the original Gears had an awesome commercial which didnt show any gameplay, but its sales were spectacular

and? atleast it was ingame that they showed

in-game? they may have used the same models, but there was nothing 'in-game' about it

keep in mind that a TON of PS3 titles are going to have legs for the long run (continuous sales) simply because of the fact that more people will have a PS3 after the price cut and idiots aren't using the "Ps3 has no games" excuse anymore. In addition, there are likely to be cheaper prices and discounts on these games on sites like amazon due to them being out for a while.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

not really, the original Gears had an awesome commercial which didnt show any gameplay, but its sales were spectacular

ogvampire

and? atleast it was ingame that they showed

in-game? they may have used the same models, but there was nothing 'in-game' about it

i havent seen the gears1 commercial in a long time so i might be thinking about something else

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

maybe some that actually showed the actual game!

clubsammich91

not really, the original Gears had an awesome commercial which didnt show any gameplay, but its sales were spectacular

i honestly thought the kz2 slow-mo ad was awesome... i thought it would kickstart sales

keep in mind that a TON of PS3 titles are going to have legs for the long run (continuous sales) simply because of the fact that more people will have a PS3 after the price cut and idiots aren't using the "Ps3 has no games" excuse anymore. In addition, there are likely to be cheaper prices and discounts on these games on sites like amazon due to them being out for a while.

mD-

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

maybe some that actually showed the actual game!

hyperboy152000

not really, the original Gears had an awesome commercial which didnt show any gameplay, but its sales were spectacular

and? atleast it was ingame that they showed

Well, the bullet time ad wasn't "in-game" but it does was rendered in real time on the Ps3.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

and? atleast it was ingame that they showed

hyperboy152000

in-game? they may have used the same models, but there was nothing 'in-game' about it

i havent seen the gears1 commercial in a long time so i might be thinking about something else

could be. its subtle and doesnt show too much, but its great. here it is

The game just isn't that good. Why is it so hard for people to accept?

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Blu-ray player first, games console second it would seem. Maybe they should ship it with a movie or something.

The game just isn't that good. Why is it so hard for people to accept?

ArchaoN

because thats not a fact

The game just isn't that good. Why is it so hard for people to accept?

ArchaoN

Its certainly better than Army of two and sold less (vs 360 version only)

[QUOTE="mD-"]

keep in mind that a TON of PS3 titles are going to have legs for the long run (continuous sales) simply because of the fact that more people will have a PS3 after the price cut and idiots aren't using the "Ps3 has no games" excuse anymore. In addition, there are likely to be cheaper prices and discounts on these games on sites like amazon due to them being out for a while.

blue_hazy_basic

No. It only applies to PS3 games because they are special

[spoiler] and remember to disregard the fact that Halo3 outsold (or sold nearly as much as ) KZ2 this month [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]They sold 1.1 million copies of Killzone 2 to retailers in Europe (that we know of). They got paid , that is the fact.

Nike_Air

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"] selling to retailers =/= pre-order, so they obviously lied. blue_hazy_basic

EDIT and why I might add I think VGC is an awful place for news as well as sales numbers.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"] selling to retailers =/= pre-order, so they obviously lied. blue_hazy_basic

EDIT and why I might add I think VGC is an awful place for news as well as sales numbers.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Pre-order to them means to retailers when presented the way they did it. That isn't lieing. That is someone (you)being confused.

Nike_Air

EDIT and why I might add I think VGC is an awful place for news as well as sales numbers.

i got kz 2 near launch ive played its sp for like 4 hrs ,, , got bored fast ,

have not touched it since my data was lost , i was mad , ,but ya ps3 is an ok gaming machine they just need to stop making fps after fps for it, they need to do what the wii has been doing since launch or more like their ps2 did, release alot of different games , , that way gamers dont feel like their playing the same thing over again

[QUOTE="ArchaoN"][QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Blu-ray player first, games console second it would seem. Maybe they should ship it with a movie or something.

Fizzman

there was also a Taladega Nights Balad of Ricky Bobby bundle. Yeahi think there was a spiderman 3 one too, but cmon the system uses Spiderman font.

the spiderman font IS the Playstation 3 font 8)

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] We know that now but that was certainly not how it was being presented at the time and why I was criticsing the Sony PR machine which you replied rather sarcastically to :) http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3045

EDIT and why I might add I think VGC is an awful place for news as well as sales numbers.

3picuri3

[QUOTE="ArchaoN"]

The game just isn't that good. Why is it so hard for people to accept?

Its certainly better than Army of two and sold less (vs 360 version only)

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

So what are the total sales for the game now?

i guess its around 1.5 million

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

So what are the total sales for the game now?

danish-death

i guess its around 1.5 million

Good question, my guess is nobody knows. I don't think the $60 million has been proven (could be wrong), and nobody knows exactly how much the dev gets from each copy sold (could probably be as low as $10-15, maybe lower). Also, the engine created could no doubt, be reused, in doing so, saving more money in future 1st party game production.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Eveything presented there is likely very very true , the only problem I have is that I didn't see a link to what Sony put out there. Pre-order =/= customer pre-orders (unless specified as such).

Nike_Air

i got kz 2 near launch ive played its sp for like 4 hrs ,, , got bored fast ,

have not touched it since my data was lost , i was mad , ,but ya ps3 is an ok gaming machine they just need to stop making fps after fps for it, they need to do what the wii has been doing since launch or more like their ps2 did, release alot of different games , , that way gamers dont feel like their playing the same thing over again

mariokart64fan

theres only 2 major FPS for the system resistance and kz, the rest are multiplats

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

So what are the total sales for the game now?

danish-death

i guess its around 1.5 million

none, sony paid them well ahead of time, now how much does sony need to sell to make a profit?

ask them yourself

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"] pre-order has never meant retailer order Nike. magnifiscent try though :)3picuri3

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Pre-order to them means to retailers when presented the way they did it. That isn't lieing. That is someone (you)being confused.

Nike_Air

EDIT and why I might add I think VGC is an awful place for news as well as sales numbers.

From that article:

"First week sales of Killzone 2 are expected to exceed previous Sony titles such as LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2 and GT5 Prologue

Brett Walton 25th Feb 2009

VGChartz today recieved confirmation in a discussion with Sony Computer Entertainment America that Killzone 2 is the highest pre-ordered first party PS3 title to date. SCEA looked at the pre-order data two weeks out from launch for Killzone 2 and measured it against the same timeframe for its other major first-party titles including LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2 and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue"

How much clearer can that be?!?!?!

EDIT and Nike earlier (and somewhat unfairly, no apology necessary) you accused me of something, well from your responses let me ask you something. Does it hurt you for some reason to accept that Sony mispresented those figures which they clearly did? Why are you defending them so vigourously? Do they pay you a wage or something?

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] We know that now but that was certainly not how it was being presented at the time and why I was criticsing the Sony PR machine which you replied rather sarcastically to :) http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3045

EDIT and why I might add I think VGC is an awful place for news as well as sales numbers.

blue_hazy_basic

Killzone 2 is the second most overhyped game on PS3. I sold it after two weeks. Number 1 is MGS 4. What a travesty of a movie, I mean a game. Sold this after 2 days.Nuck81

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]They are supposed to hype their products and sales (as a business) , and they were't hyping customer pre-order sales ..... just sales. They got paid and they are proud of that ..... why does this hurt you so ?

Nike_Air