and they promised us 1080p + 60fps

but apparently nowadays consoles are not powerful enough.

as the ppl from Insomniac said: you want best graphics, you can have them at 30 fps.

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

Pc is another story, everything can be much better than the consoles, but then again, for some strange reasons, Pc is not a priority in most of the big devs' mind.

in all honesty, would you guys rather play on Pc if you had the possibility to play every consoles' game or would you just stick to your console/s?

I mean, do people mainly choose consoles because they don't wanna bother with settings? drivers? lack of good games? high system requirements?

but apparently nowadays consoles are not powerful enough.

as the ppl from Insomniac said: you want best graphics, you can have them at 30 fps.

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

Pc is another story, everything can be much better than the consoles, but then again, for some strange reasons, Pc is not a priority in most of the big devs' mind.

in all honesty, would you guys rather play on Pc if you had the possibility to play every consoles' game or would you just stick to your console/s?

I mean, do people mainly choose consoles because they don't wanna bother with settings? drivers? lack of good games? high system requirements?

italygamer

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

italygamer

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

DoomZaW

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

but apparently nowadays consoles are not powerful enough.

as the ppl from Insomniac said: you want best graphics, you can have them at 30 fps.

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

Pc is another story, everything can be much better than the consoles, but then again, for some strange reasons, Pc is not a priority in most of the big devs' mind.

in all honesty, would you guys rather play on Pc if you had the possibility to play every consoles' game or would you just stick to your console/s?

I mean, do people mainly choose consoles because they don't wanna bother with settings? drivers? lack of good games? high system requirements?

italygamer

they choose consoles do to ignorance concerning those things considering none of them are even things the average pc gamer thinks about.

but you cannot deny that turning your console on, sprawling on the sofa munching junk food and just wait for the game to load is not a better feeling than sitting in front of a monitor and scramble about settings and appletinipitty8982

[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

pitty8982

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

BS play HL2 at 30 fps and then switch to 60+... It's no where near the same. You can even see the difference between 60 and 80.

[QUOTE="pitty8982"][QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

bigblunt537

BS play HL2 at 30 fps and then switch to 60+... It's no where near the same. You can even see the difference between 60 and 80.

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

DoomZaW

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

DoomZaW

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

Is there much of a visible difference between 30fps and 60fps?Kivalede

depends really. with games with a lot of fast paced motion like fighters and racing games yes very yes. platformers to a degree TPS not really so much

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frames_per_second#How_many_frames_per_second_can_the_human_eye_see.3F

but you cannot deny that turning your console on, sprawling on the sofa munching junk food and just wait for the game to load is not a better feeling than sitting in front of a monitor and scramble about settings and appletinipitty8982

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="pitty8982"] play a Tekken game at 30 fps. seriously? no.pitty8982

BS play HL2 at 30 fps and then switch to 60+... It's no where near the same. You can even see the difference between 60 and 80.

No where did I say some games aren't good at 30 fps. I think all games are fine at 30 fps, but you can easily see a difference with more frame. To me anything under 30 is trash and shouldn't be released.

[QUOTE="pitty8982"]but you cannot deny that turning your console on, sprawling on the sofa munching junk food and just wait for the game to load is not a better feeling than sitting in front of a monitor and scramble about settings and appletiniBirdy09

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="pitty8982"]but you cannot deny that turning your console on, sprawling on the sofa munching junk food and just wait for the game to load is not a better feeling than sitting in front of a monitor and scramble about settings and appletinipitty8982

but apparently nowadays consoles are not powerful enough.

as the ppl from Insomniac said: you want best graphics, you can have them at 30 fps.

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

Pc is another story, everything can be much better than the consoles, but then again, for some strange reasons, Pc is not a priority in most of the big devs' mind.

in all honesty, would you guys rather play on Pc if you had the possibility to play every consoles' game or would you just stick to your console/s?

I mean, do people mainly choose consoles because they don't wanna bother with settings? drivers? lack of good games? high system requirements?

I think some games should be 30fps to get a more realistic movie feel to it. Fighting games is a must to have at 60fps.

But the most important thing to any game is awoiding fps drops, because that's just annoying. A game at 60fps dropping to 30fps and lower is pointless.

We won't see alot of 60fps games on consoles next gen either, but 1080p native will be standard.

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but apparently nowadays consoles are not powerful enough.

as the ppl from Insomniac said: you want best graphics, you can have them at 30 fps.

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

Pc is another story, everything can be much better than the consoles, but then again, for some strange reasons, Pc is not a priority in most of the big devs' mind.

in all honesty, would you guys rather play on Pc if you had the possibility to play every consoles' game or would you just stick to your console/s?

I mean, do people mainly choose consoles because they don't wanna bother with settings? drivers? lack of good games? high system requirements?

Mattizzle815

What a sissy

I think Chuck Norris just laughed

the problem with the pc is that is really expensive.the-obiwan

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

DoomZaW

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

Alot of PC gamers can tell the difference between frame rates such as 60 - 30 fps myself included...

Screw that, I'm waiting for 4D that Krazy Ken promised me.:P

Maybe God of War 3 could be that game? Future titles? If you want 1080p games now, look at the PSN games.

[QUOTE="Mattizzle815"]

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but apparently nowadays consoles are not powerful enough.

as the ppl from Insomniac said: you want best graphics, you can have them at 30 fps.

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

Pc is another story, everything can be much better than the consoles, but then again, for some strange reasons, Pc is not a priority in most of the big devs' mind.

in all honesty, would you guys rather play on Pc if you had the possibility to play every consoles' game or would you just stick to your console/s?

I mean, do people mainly choose consoles because they don't wanna bother with settings? drivers? lack of good games? high system requirements?

SexySasquatch11

What a sissy

I think Chuck Norris just laughed

[QUOTE="the-obiwan"]the problem with the pc is that is really expensive.KukicAdo

Is there much of a visible difference between 30fps and 60fps?Kivalede

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

DoomZaW

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

I think you would have to have something wrong with your eyes if you can't spot the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS.

-edit

Never mind, I can see it is at least partially provoked.

but you cannot deny that turning your console on, sprawling on the sofa munching junk food and just wait for the game to load is not a better feeling than sitting in front of a monitor and scramble about settings and appletinipitty8982

the problem with the pc is that is really expensive.the-obiwan

even though the systems are more expensive since theres no one to subsidise them pc gaming can be cheaper than console gaming and usually is due to upgrading instead of buying a new system every gen.

I just prefer consoles because they are just a lot less of a hassle, sure you can do everything with a PC and do it better, but I like not having to worry and just plopping on my couch and playing some games.Z0MBIES

hm funny

i dont worry about any of those things and all i do is download off steam plop on my bed and play.

I think you would have to have something wrong with your eyes if you can't spot the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS.

JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

but I don't know you guys, 30 fps really bother my eyes, like they hurt and I get headache. dunno why.

DoomZaW

How can you even tell? at 25 FPS, the eyes will be registering it as a smooth moving picture anyways, so you can't really tell a difference between 25 and 90 FPS

How do you think companies get you to buy their stuff or politicians get you to vote for them. Lie.

How do you think companies get you to buy their stuff or politicians get you to vote for them. Lie.

destro123

The PS2 claimed to have graphics equal to CGI cutscenes before it launched. It's funny that even the PS3 doesn't live up to that claim.

I used to like buying multiplats for the PC, since I could play them on my HDTV at 1920x1080 and with a 360 controller. But it seems like every time I do, it becomes more annoying.

1. Performance can be all over the place
2. Restrictive copy protection is a PITA to work with
3. Feature support isn't guaranteed for things like Live or Steam integration
4. PC versions are now usually delayed by as much as a month
5. Gamepad support isn't universal, or guaranteed to be useful

I often get the idea that the developers don't want me to play the PC version...and I'm getting tired of arguing with them. :P

lol - I remember all that BS Sony rhetoric as well67gt500

Although they made some rather ridiculous claims during that conference, I think the single claim that stands out the most is that the PS3 will be 'easy' to work on. Not just easy, super easy, as in everything you know about developing a PC game is instantly applicable to the PS3.

I think out of all their claims; that one just takes the cake.