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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

a) Good? I never said it would be like this forever. I specifically criticize them for how they have handled the Wii U this far.

b), c), and d) I don't know, I think you are laboring under the misconception that I am calling Donkey Kong or Mario 3D World rehashes, or that I think they are safe because they are franchise games. Let me establish this (again) as clearly as I can (again): I have two f*cks to give that Mario 3D World is the 89th Mario Game, or that Tropical Freeze is the 163rd Donkey Kong game. I sincerely could not care less. I'm not one of System Wars' 'NEW IP!!!1!' brigade. I care about what the game brings to the table. Tropical Freeze and 3D World bring nothing to the table that I don't already have. One is an iterative Wii game, the other is an iterative 3DS game. Again, do I deny the games will be great? No, in fact I specifically and explicitly outline as much every time I mention those games, including in the post you originally quoted.

Which is, incidentally, why I don't seem to care about Retro doing a new Metroid or EAD doing Galaxy 2. Because every Metroid Prime game brought something new to the table. Galaxy 2 brought something new to the table. You know what isn't bringing anything new to the table? The Wii U lineup from Nintendo except for W101 and X.

e) It doesn't? Not from me? When have I ever criticized Pokemon?

So, um, I don't know what it was that you were trying to say man, but looks like you called me out for nothing :?

nintendoboy16

a) In a few places, you're acting no better than the other NintenDOOMERS, so it sure felt like it.

b, c and d) Not what you've been saying over E3 raging like the average comedic internet review.

It doesn't matter what a game can bring "new to the table" so long as the IP remains old or running for a while. Last I checked, Guitar Hero brought something new to the table (for that series standards) and yet, post GH II, maybe GH III (which is perhaps my favorite due to the soundtrack, but I digress), it got called a rehash. Heck, Metal Gear, a series fans proclaim DID something new each game, can be regarded as a rehash for the name alone.

(And FYI, I personally don't care if it rehashes in name either as long as it's good. I'm just pointing out that the criticisms for that very reason exists)

e) Maybe not from you, but in other places, it's regarded as such. Goes to show that the 3DS, even of selling better, isn't safe from similar comments.

a) No, I am not acting like the 'NintenDOOMERS.' That's your problem here, you don't consider intent, you don't consider context, you don't consider if the other person has valid arguments, or rational and consistent reasons, you just see that someone is criticizing Nintendo, and then decide that they must hate the company, because that is what everyone does, everyone hates Nintendo. I don't hate Nintendo. Neither do most people on here who criticize them. There are a few haters, of course, but most of us love, or at least like, the company, and we want to see it do better, not languish in mediocrity, which is all the Wii U has been so far. b), c), and d) I'm not even sure if you are arguing against me, or the world at large anymore. I never called out either Guitar Hero or Metal Gear for being rehashes. Those don't fit into my definition of 'rehash.' Similarly, I did not call Galaxy 2 or Metroid Prime 2/3 rehashes, because those don't fit my definition either. As a matter of fact, and I don't know why I am repeating this to you for the third time in as many posts in the same thread, I did not call the Wii U lineup 'rehash' either, I called it derivative and iterative, unsafe and uncreative, all of which it IS. e) Why do I care what others think? If I am not wrong, you were calling me out on my so called change in opinion/inconsistency. Where does what others think about anything come into this at all, when it is my opinions in consideration? I don't think you are arguing against me anymore. You tried calling me out on my purported change in opinions, I went ahead and established that there was none, and you went ahead and... began arguing larger issues regarding the perception of Nintendo and their games? How does any of that apply to what I said, or what you called me out on earlier? Please keep your arguments confined to what it was you were arguing about in the first place. In this case, you said I had 'changed my opinion' again. Now do you admit you were wrong about that?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] They are? Could have fooled me, all I see is hastily updated versions of old Wii and 3DS games. And Mario Kart 8 and X.

that hastily updated wii game (Tropical freeze) is probably going to be one of the greatest 2d platformers out there

Wonderful, that doesn't change the fact that Nintendo seem to be losing their edge. Their quality is undeniable, where's the spark that used to define the so called Nintendo difference? The only games I see it in is Wonderful 101 and X, none of those two are from their in house teams.

If you wholly own a company (i.e, Monolith Soft), it's pretty much in house. Don't put ridiculous requirements on Nintendo that surely wouldn't apply to the other first party publishers.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]that hastily updated wii game (Tropical freeze) is probably going to be one of the greatest 2d platformers out thereShottayouth13-
Wonderful, that doesn't change the fact that Nintendo seem to be losing their edge. Their quality is undeniable, where's the spark that used to define the so called Nintendo difference? The only games I see it in is Wonderful 101 and X, none of those two are from their in house teams.

If you wholly own a company (i.e, Monolith Soft), it's pretty much in house. Don't put ridiculous requirements on Nintendo that surely wouldn't apply to the other first party publishers.

Oh I know, I've made that argument myself plenty of times against people who claim Nintendo don't make new IP's, and that Xenoblade/X don't count for whatever reason. I was specifically talking about EAD/SPD and their affiliated studios though, the ones that USED to have the industry leading spark, and the ones that seem to have lost it in an endless sea of derivative, iterative sequels.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

You and me both know Nintendo is doing this. It's just taking too dang long.

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They are? Could have fooled me, all I see is hastily updated versions of old Wii and 3DS games. And Mario Kart 8 and X.

Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Mario Kart, X, Bayonetta 2.

Plus as underwhelming as Super Mario 3D World is there is no god damn way one could belittle that game for being mroe 3D Land, and not mock the shit out of so many 3DS outings from Nintendo: Specifically in this case mother f*cking Animal Crossing. From August forward the WiiU is at least looking semi competent with one solid looking game after another a month. Question what are their drought fillers.

JJust saw this.
Pikmin is more Pikmin. Thankfully, there wasn't a whole lot of Pikmin to begin with, and there is still nothing else like it on the market. Donkey Kong Country is MORE Donkey Kong Country, and Mario 3D World is, let's face it, an expansion of the concept introduced in the 3DS game.
Again, you seem to have the misconception that I am criticizing these games. I am not, at least I am not criticizing their quality. They look to be top notch games, and I have no doubt they will each be the best in their respective classes. I agree that they give the Wii U a great lineup in the coming months. I am, however, criticizing these games for being creatively redundant. Frankly, I don't see how anyone could argue against that position.

P.S: Never criticized either Mario Kart (which looks like a great, refreshing take on the series), X (which I believe looks like a genuine step forward for JRPGs), or The Wonderful 101 (which, as you have tirelessly pointed out to me yourself multiple times, is not Nintendo developed, and so is exempt from a discussion regarding the creativity of Nintendo studios).

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#56 YoshiYogurt
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Game is so good and addicting I've had to put it away this past week to get work done.
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#57 Shottayouth13-
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Wonderful, that doesn't change the fact that Nintendo seem to be losing their edge. Their quality is undeniable, where's the spark that used to define the so called Nintendo difference? The only games I see it in is Wonderful 101 and X, none of those two are from their in house teams.

If you wholly own a company (i.e, Monolith Soft), it's pretty much in house. Don't put ridiculous requirements on Nintendo that surely wouldn't apply to the other first party publishers.

Oh I know, I've made that argument myself plenty of times against people who claim Nintendo don't make new IP's, and that Xenoblade/X don't count for whatever reason. I was specifically talking about EAD/SPD and their affiliated studios though, the ones that USED to have the industry leading spark, and the ones that seem to have lost it in an endless sea of derivative, iterative sequels.

The industry leading spark is still there for the most part, at least for the genre that the EAD specializes in. Just look at Mario Galaxy. They do need to cut back the NSMB milking though.
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] If you wholly own a company (i.e, Monolith Soft), it's pretty much in house. Don't put ridiculous requirements on Nintendo that surely wouldn't apply to the other first party publishers.

Oh I know, I've made that argument myself plenty of times against people who claim Nintendo don't make new IP's, and that Xenoblade/X don't count for whatever reason. I was specifically talking about EAD/SPD and their affiliated studios though, the ones that USED to have the industry leading spark, and the ones that seem to have lost it in an endless sea of derivative, iterative sequels.

The industry leading spark is still there for the most part, at least for the genre that the EAD specializes in. Just look at Mario Galaxy. They do need to cut back the NSMB milking though.

And again, I admitted Galaxy 2 to have that spark. However, since Galaxy 2, they have released Super Mario 3D World (an excellent game, probably my favorite Mario platformer, actually, but more because of how well it translates 2D Mario to 3D Mario, and because of how well it plays on my nostalgia), two New Super Mario Bros games, and finally, Super Mario 3D World, which is an expanded 3DS game. If they still have that spark, their last four games has not shown it.
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#59 Ross_the_Boss6
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What are the new features in New Leaf?  I still own Wild World so I'm wondering if this game is worth it.

Also, feel free to point me to an article if you don't feel like explaining it yourself.

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#60 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Oh I know, I've made that argument myself plenty of times against people who claim Nintendo don't make new IP's, and that Xenoblade/X don't count for whatever reason. I was specifically talking about EAD/SPD and their affiliated studios though, the ones that USED to have the industry leading spark, and the ones that seem to have lost it in an endless sea of derivative, iterative sequels.charizard1605
The industry leading spark is still there for the most part, at least for the genre that the EAD specializes in. Just look at Mario Galaxy. They do need to cut back the NSMB milking though.

And again, I admitted Galaxy 2 to have that spark. However, since Galaxy 2, they have released Super Mario 3D World (an excellent game, probably my favorite Mario platformer, actually, but more because of how well it translates 2D Mario to 3D Mario, and because of how well it plays on my nostalgia), two New Super Mario Bros games, and finally, Super Mario 3D World, which is an expanded 3DS game. If they still have that spark, their last four games has not shown it.

rag on 3d world all you want but 3d land was definitely creative. They could've opted to make mario galaxy portable but they decided to do something different
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What are the new features in New Leaf?  I still own Wild World so I'm wondering if this game is worth it.

Also, feel free to point me to an article if you don't feel like explaining it yourself.

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Well, the big one is that you are now the mayor of the town, and you can implement ordinances and public construction projects. Basically, Animal Crossing isn't just Sims anymore, now it's Sims meets SimCity.
rag on 3d world all you want but 3d land was definitely creative. They could've opted to make mario galaxy portable but they decided to do something differentShinobishyguy
I acknowledge 3D Land to be an interesting game that tried old things in new ways. I don't know what more you want.
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What are the new features in New Leaf?  I still own Wild World so I'm wondering if this game is worth it.

Also, feel free to point me to an article if you don't feel like explaining it yourself.

Ross_the_Boss6

you are the mayor, thus you can build "town projects" around your town.

shoes

pants are now a thing

plenty of new furniture including entire new sets

new neighbors (hamsters for example)

swimming

tropical island that you can meet up with random people on

customize your house even further (fences, rooftops, doors, ect.)

attach things to walls

use QR codes to bring patterns from the internet into your game

reintroduces elements from the gamecube version (igloo, campers, ect.)

 

there is more, its probably the best AC out of the entire franchise.

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best selling exclusive of the year i believe. good job nintendo

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Fvck it, I think I'm gonna take the plunge and buy it.
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Fvck it, I think I'm gonna take the plunge and buy it. Xaero_Gravity
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best selling exclusive of the year i believe. good job nintendo

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I'm so surprised too. Nobody gave a crap about animal crossing on the gamecube. Popularity has grown exponentially it seems. Good to see people picking up great games on the 3DS and Vita(Yes) instead of settling for crappy phone games.
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[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]Fvck it, I think I'm gonna take the plunge and buy it. BrunoBRS
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I ended up changing my mind while I was adding funds. I'm so torn. :cry:
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]Fvck it, I think I'm gonna take the plunge and buy it. Xaero_Gravity
one of us, one of us.

I ended up changing my mind while I was adding funds. I'm so torn. :cry:

Get it. I didn't even like the Wii game, and I can't stop playing this one. It's a compulsion.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]Fvck it, I think I'm gonna take the plunge and buy it. Xaero_Gravity
one of us, one of us.

I ended up changing my mind while I was adding funds. I'm so torn. :cry:

watch yahtzee's review (i linked it somewhere in this thread). it'll sell the game to you.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] They are? Could have fooled me, all I see is hastily updated versions of old Wii and 3DS games. And Mario Kart 8 and X.

that hastily updated wii game (Tropical freeze) is probably going to be one of the greatest 2d platformers out there

Wonderful, that doesn't change the fact that Nintendo seem to be losing their edge. Their quality is undeniable, where's the spark that used to define the so called Nintendo difference? The only games I see it in is Wonderful 101 and X, none of those two are from their in house teams.

It's hard to doing something special when you're rushing projects.
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This game is pretty much my life now.

I don't live a very exciting life obviously.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]that hastily updated wii game (Tropical freeze) is probably going to be one of the greatest 2d platformers out thereMinishdriveby
Wonderful, that doesn't change the fact that Nintendo seem to be losing their edge. Their quality is undeniable, where's the spark that used to define the so called Nintendo difference? The only games I see it in is Wonderful 101 and X, none of those two are from their in house teams.

It's hard to doing something special when you're rushing projects.

It's not my problem that they are rushing projects, especially given that they had years to prepare them.
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This game is pretty much my life now.

I don't live a very exciting life obviously.

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I don't know, I think Animal Crossing would make for a pretty exciting life >.>
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Nice sales, maybe I'll get it some day.
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No idea how such a garbage game always manages to do so well.

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[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

This game is pretty much my life now.

I don't live a very exciting life obviously.

charizard1605

I don't know, I think Animal Crossing would make for a pretty exciting life >.>

Well, yeah, but I don't have Horse and Elephant neighbors that can talk. And the turnips I buy at the grocery store can't be sold back for an insane profit. And there are no Coelocanths at the beach. My life just isn't the same...