Anonymous: We Will Attack Sony When PSN is Back Online

with PSN being free this whole time, we have all been lucky to get the service we had. since its a free network for users, its quite vulnerable because less money is going in to protect it. i am not suprised that someone has finally hacked it, even if it was just for fun.

for the people complaining, realize that this whole time it has been FREE. why should they sink more into protecting it if they dont charge us a dime?

it sucks this happened, and it sucks that as an outcome we might end up having to pay for service, but all in all an attack on PSN was going to happen some time or another and that time has come

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

No one has a right to complain about this since these problems are sourced from the problems recently in japan from the earthquake no company could have kept their stuff online under such a scenario.
anon wont attack because they know people will draw that line they are attacking sony when they are having problems because of a giant earthquake that killed many people and hurt many others and ruined the lives of so many in japan...anon=heartless B*******

DoomZaW

Or maybe because it might a bit hard to hack an offline server?

Now correct me if im wrong im just speculating, hacking is illegal for sure, so has Sony even filed anything about this with whatever government it may concern? No way to track the hacker/hackers? Just wondering cuz im not rly sure, I just really want all this geohotz/anon stuff to stop

oh and mods please just make a sticky for this stuff.

bri360

Hacking by defenitionis using something for another perpose than what its made for. Thats no illegal. But being a douche bag and sending a viru o whatever they used to shuitdown the psn. I hope sony sues them for everything they got. teach them a lesson.

[QUOTE="bri360"]

Now correct me if im wrong im just speculating, hacking is illegal for sure, so has Sony even filed anything about this with whatever government it may concern? No way to track the hacker/hackers? Just wondering cuz im not rly sure, I just really want all this geohotz/anon stuff to stop

oh and mods please just make a sticky for this stuff.

scouttrooperbob

Hacking by defenitionis using something for another perpose than what its made for. Thats no illegal. But being a douche bag and sending a viru o whatever they used to shuitdown the psn. I hope sony sues them for everything they got. teach them a lesson.

[QUOTE="scouttrooperbob"]

[QUOTE="bri360"]

Now correct me if im wrong im just speculating, hacking is illegal for sure, so has Sony even filed anything about this with whatever government it may concern? No way to track the hacker/hackers? Just wondering cuz im not rly sure, I just really want all this geohotz/anon stuff to stop

oh and mods please just make a sticky for this stuff.

Crossel777

Hacking by defenitionis using something for another perpose than what its made for. Thats no illegal. But being a douche bag and sending a viru o whatever they used to shuitdown the psn. I hope sony sues them for everything they got. teach them a lesson.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

[QUOTE="scouttrooperbob"]

Hacking by defenitionis using something for another perpose than what its made for. Thats no illegal. But being a douche bag and sending a viru o whatever they used to shuitdown the psn. I hope sony sues them for everything they got. teach them a lesson.

viper-kid

No it isnt, this is for Sony.

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]360 = lemmings

Wii = sheep
ps3 = cows
PC = hermits
Apple mac = worms

killzonexbox

You forgot-

SEGA = hedgehogs

Atari = cougars

Commodore 64 = condors

Anonymous is not the hacker that made PSN go down. They don't want to ruin the online gaming so they will do something else. The problem was that sony software is outdated or something like that.llllllllllillll

Meanwhile Nintendo Wi-fi Connection is working fine. :DSaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Meanwhile Nintendo Wi-fi Connection is working fine. :DZippySlappy

Also Mario Kart Wii is probably one of the best 1st Party online games.

Now correct me if im wrong im just speculating, hacking is illegal for sure, so has Sony even filed anything about this with whatever government it may concern? No way to track the hacker/hackers? Just wondering cuz im not rly sure, I just really want all this geohotz/anon stuff to stop

oh and mods please just make a sticky for this stuff.

bri360

Hacking itself is not illegal, Sony's lawsuit was over Geohot releasing the info online and possibly being paid for it (hence the paypal account situation.) Sony and Geohot, quite predictably IMO, settled out of court, so now if Geohot hacks another Sony system and release the information he'll be fined anywhere from $10,000 to $250,000.

This whole Anon thing is over Sony's removal of Linyx and OtherOS. They're trying to strong arm Sony into putting it back into the system.

with PSN being free this whole time, we have all been lucky to get the service we had. since its a free network for users, its quite vulnerable because less money is going in to protect it. i am not suprised that someone has finally hacked it, even if it was just for fun.

for the people complaining, realize that this whole time it has been FREE. why should they sink more into protecting it if they dont charge us a dime?GamerMan97

You dont consider the money they get from the playstation store to be relevent?

[QUOTE="ZippySlappy"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Meanwhile Nintendo Wi-fi Connection is working fine. :DNintendo_Ownes7

Also Mario Kart Wii is probably one of the best 1st Party online games.

Anon will fall very soon, not by sony but by the angery Sony consumers.

lol anon is saying that they WON'T attack psn...

well someone DID attack psn, and clearly he's anonymous (coz we don't know him), so I guess anon just kicked themselves in the teeth. :lol:

[QUOTE="bri360"]

Now correct me if im wrong im just speculating, hacking is illegal for sure, so has Sony even filed anything about this with whatever government it may concern? No way to track the hacker/hackers? Just wondering cuz im not rly sure, I just really want all this geohotz/anon stuff to stop

oh and mods please just make a sticky for this stuff.

Hacking itself is not illegal, Sony's lawsuit was over Geohot releasing the info online and possibly being paid for it (hence the paypal account situation.) Sony and Geohot, quite predictably IMO, settled out of court, so now if Geohot hacks another Sony system and release the information he'll be fined anywhere from $10,000 to $250,000.

This whole Anon thing is over Sony's removal of Linyx and OtherOS. They're trying to strong arm Sony into putting it back into the system.

So from what i gather they're fighting against "not having the rights" to hack their console because they bought it right??

When has ANYBODY had the rights to hack their console and 'have their own rights', companies are always clearly explicit about that, it's nothing new. It's not like Microsoft or Nintendo allow it either, so what has Sony actually done?

So from what i gather they're fighting against "not having the rights" to hack their console because they bought it right??

When has ANYBODY had the rights to hack their console and 'have their own rights', companies are always clearly explicit about that, it's nothing new. It's not like Microsoft or Nintendo allow it either, so what has Sony actually done?

DarthJohnova

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"]

So from what i gather they're fighting against "not having the rights" to hack their console because they bought it right??

When has ANYBODY had the rights to hack their console and 'have their own rights', companies are always clearly explicit about that, it's nothing new. It's not like Microsoft or Nintendo allow it either, so what has Sony actually done?

Ilikemyname420

Anonymous will not do anything to disrupt the PlayStation Network? What then?

I am enjoying this. :)

Rikusaki

Anonymous responds to PSN-users

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"]

So from what i gather they're fighting against "not having the rights" to hack their console because they bought it right??

When has ANYBODY had the rights to hack their console and 'have their own rights', companies are always clearly explicit about that, it's nothing new. It's not like Microsoft or Nintendo allow it either, so what has Sony actually done?

Ilikemyname420

If they don't brick your system it voids your warranty. Nintendo also always updates their systems to prevent stuff that are modded.

Wait till it hits OnLive. :P

Hexagon_777

It won't.

OnLive doesn't work like that. There is no "main" server. It's just one huge LAN party. You'd have to hack each server individually. I've seen it happen. When a graphics card goes bad, a back-up server is up within minutes.

i love how anonymous thinks their tough.. if i recall correctly they tried to "attack" amazon.com and probably made them cough that morning from their.. "attack"

thier such savages.. ten bucks says its one dude with alot of friends on facebook or twitter throwing around this shin digg.

anon are about as effective a movement as hippies were dangerous :P

ionusX

I liked when they took on the scientologists

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Wait till it hits OnLive. :PRikusaki

OnLive doesn't work like that. There is no "main" server. It's just one huge LAN party. You'd have to hack each server individually. I've seen it happen. When a graphics card goes bad, a back-up server is up within minutes.

[QUOTE="GamerMan97"]

with PSN being free this whole time, we have all been lucky to get the service we had. since its a free network for users, its quite vulnerable because less money is going in to protect it. i am not suprised that someone has finally hacked it, even if it was just for fun.

for the people complaining, realize that this whole time it has been FREE. why should they sink more into protecting it if they dont charge us a dime?gaming25

You dont consider the money they get from the playstation store to be relevent?

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Wait till it hits OnLive. :P

Rikusaki

It won't.

OnLive doesn't work like that. There is no "main" server. It's just one huge LAN party. You'd have to hack each server individually. I've seen it happen. When a graphics card goes bad, a back-up server is up within minutes.

Anonymous responds to PSN-users

killzonexbox

Their screwing with sony but dont bother to mess with Microsoft for making people pay to play online...They dont care about gamers.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Wait till it hits OnLive. :P

Robbazking

It won't.

OnLive doesn't work like that. There is no "main" server. It's just one huge LAN party. You'd have to hack each server individually. I've seen it happen. When a graphics card goes bad, a back-up server is up within minutes.

You still don't get it.

There are multiple login servers. Each user has their own server.

[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

It won't.

OnLive doesn't work like that. There is no "main" server. It's just one huge LAN party. You'd have to hack each server individually. I've seen it happen. When a graphics card goes bad, a back-up server is up within minutes.

Rikusaki

You still don't get it.

There are multiple login servers. Each user has their own server.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="Robbazking"] Just mess with the login and it dosen't matter.lowe0

You still don't get it.

There are multiple login servers. Each user has their own server.

They're not going to have individual authentication servers, payment processing servers, etc.. There are always points of failure.

Oh, but they do. ;)

Each data center (there are over five in the US) has it's own authentication server.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

You still don't get it.

There are multiple login servers. Each user has their own server.

Rikusaki

They're not going to have individual authentication servers, payment processing servers, etc.. There are always points of failure.

Oh, but they do. ;)

Each data center (there are over five in the US) has it's own authentication server.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

They're not going to have individual authentication servers, payment processing servers, etc.. There are always points of failure.lowe0

Oh, but they do. ;)

Each data center (there are over five in the US) has it's own authentication server.

The only reason OnLive will never be attacked is because no one cares enough about it.

http://blog.onlive.com/2009/05/12/hopping-through-cloud-onlive/

Each service has its own server for each user. It would be impossible to take down a data center the way it's set up.

And there's five of them in the US alone.

The only reason OnLive will never be attacked it's because no one cares enough about it.IronBass

lol...that or it won't exist in a few years. KC_Hokie

For example, let's consider a typical user who tried out OnLive at the Game Developer Conference and played for five minutes (say, navigating the user interface, playing a few games, snapping and watching Brag Clips™, and spectating other users playing). Given that range of activities, the user easily used more than a dozen servers at different times. Just to identify a few: some OnLive servers ran (i.e. "hosted") particular games, other OnLive servers hosted the user interface, and others handled the distribution of spectating video streams and Brag Clips.

As the user transitioned from one experience to another (e.g. clicking in the user interface to start a game), OnLive would "hand off" the user from one server to another, transferring the "user state" (e.g. all the data unique to that user, including the live characteristics of the Internet connection) from the user interface server to the game server, while switching the live compressed HDTV video/audio from the user interface server to the game server. And, all of this occurred on a video frame boundary. So, from the point of view of the user, it seemed like the video was just continuing onward from the user interface video to the game video as if it was running on the same server. In actuality, it was seamlessly handed-off from one server to the next.

http://blog.onlive.com/2009/05/12/hopping-through-cloud-onlive/

You think I'm lying? :lol:

Stop trying to lecture me on how the internet works when you don't even know how OnLive works.

You actually brought OnLive to the discussion?
Might as well mention iPhone whil you're at it.

*yawns* These kids don't give up do they.

Next.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Oh, but they do. ;)

Each data center (there are over five in the US) has it's own authentication server.

Rikusaki

A presentation server is damn near disposable - for example, consider the web server in a multi-tier application; you can add web server nodes, load balance between them, take nodes offline, whatever. Application servers that require a secure environment or database servers are much less easily rebuilt. Yes, every user has a dedicated virtual node for gameplay or UI (and sometimes that virtual node may have the entire physical node to itself) but that's not the equivalent of PSN. We're talking about the underlying services, which would most certainly not be run on a per-user basis. For example, storage - do you really think that every time you purchase a game, they provision space for you on their SAN and put a copy there just for you?

lowe0

http://blog.onlive.com/2009/05/12/hopping-through-cloud-onlive/

Each game has its own cluster of servers. That's one of the main features of OnLive: Each game has its own hardware configuration.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

A presentation server is damn near disposable - for example, consider the web server in a multi-tier application; you can add web server nodes, load balance between them, take nodes offline, whatever. Application servers that require a secure environment or database servers are much less easily rebuilt. Yes, every user has a dedicated virtual node for gameplay or UI (and sometimes that virtual node may have the entire physical node to itself) but that's not the equivalent of PSN. We're talking about the underlying services, which would most certainly not be run on a per-user basis. For example, storage - do you really think that every time you purchase a game, they provision space for you on their SAN and put a copy there just for you?

Rikusaki

http://blog.onlive.com/2009/05/12/hopping-through-cloud-onlive/

Each game has its own cluster of servers. That's one of the main features of OnLive: Each game has its own hardware configuration.